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One Day Soon
11-04-2023, 04:07 PM
I renewed my season tickets for me and the boy. That's £605 quid of commitment painfully shown. Again.


Kensall told us we were after a DoF at, what, before the end of January? It's two and a half months later and still no DoF. The summer window opens around the beginning of June. So if a DoF is appointed by the end of April (that's just 19 days away) then that person will have just four weeks to appraise the squad, look for players and begin discussions with potential signings. Effectively they will be making a judgement about what we need, who should go and the strengths and weakness of our first team based upon 5 or 6 games in May. It beggars belief that the 'we run outstanding catering facilities with a football club attached' approach seems to STILL be in the driving seat at ER.


On the basis that I've already shown my commitment to the club with my wallet I'm going to go right ahead and exercise my right to say that I think we have now pretty conclusively already ****ed up our summer recruitment prospects by taking ten weeks to NOT get a DoF in early enough to let them do the job which we so clearly need done above all others if next season is to be better than this one.


Last season when we recruited miserably and late - and did the same again in the winter window - the excuse was that signing early didn't guarantee anything and that the window wasn't over yet. As last year showed, the League Cup catches you cold if you a) don't take it seriously and b) don't have your squad and first team established and bedded-in firmly before the start of the season.


We desperately need to shake out this squad, bring in or promote fresh faces and have a complete reset. We have supposedly been publicly committed to doing this via a Director of Football since January. The fact that we still have not made that appointment is negligent beyond reason. This person after will supposedly be leading on ALL footballing aspects at the club.


I bought those seasons yet again out of love for Hibs, but **** me I hate the club right now.

greenlex
11-04-2023, 04:10 PM
I’m hoping that a DOF is identified and already on the ball but not official yet. I know I know.

JimBHibees
11-04-2023, 04:11 PM
Hate is a strong word. Assuming Ron’s death will have impacted some of the timelines however do share your concern re the DOF appointment and ongoing impact potentially.

JimBHibees
11-04-2023, 04:11 PM
I’m hoping that a DOF is identified and already on the ball but not official yet. I know I know.

That has got to be the hope but …… :greengrin

One Day Soon
11-04-2023, 04:25 PM
I’m hoping that a DOF is identified and already on the ball but not official yet. I know I know.

Even if that turned out to be true (I will believe it if/when I see it) my point is that I think it's pretty much already too late for the next recruitment window in the Summer. I don't know who or what we are being run by, but football still appears to be an afterthought.

jeffers
11-04-2023, 04:30 PM
As far as I know interviews have taken place and on track to be announced by the end of the month. No idea of any names but I don’t believe the person we appoint is already at the club.

One Day Soon
11-04-2023, 04:30 PM
Hate is a strong word. Assuming Ron’s death will have impacted some of the timelines however do share your concern re the DOF appointment and ongoing impact potentially.

It is a strong word and it's exactly how I feel right now. So much money, goodwill, opportunity, support and possibility utterly squandered.

Ron's death will have been emotionally difficult. However the players and other staff continued their duties during the period after Ron's death. Presumably that applied too for whoever is leading the DoF recruitment? I don't think the salaried Execs and the Board members spent weeks in a state of mourning-based inactivity.

ScottB
11-04-2023, 04:31 PM
I would assume Ron’s illness then death will have delayed, perhaps even derailed, whatever plans were being worked on.

If and when those will be picked up again probably depends on the rumours of us being up for sale or not are true. If the Gordon’s are in it for the long haul, you’d expect them to get back to the likes of the DoF plan quickly now. If we’re for sale, then probably not much changes till that process is complete…

One Day Soon
11-04-2023, 04:32 PM
As far as I know interviews have taken place and on track to be announced by the end of the month. No idea of any names but I don’t believe the person we appoint is already at the club.

At this point my best scenario was an end of April appointment, which is still way too late. 12 weeks to appoint FFS.

One Day Soon
11-04-2023, 04:34 PM
I would assume Ron’s illness then death will have delayed, perhaps even derailed, whatever plans were being worked on.

If and when those will be picked up again probably depends on the rumours of us being up for sale or not are true. If the Gordon’s are in it for the long haul, you’d expect them to get back to the likes of the DoF plan quickly now. If we’re for sale, then probably not much changes till that process is complete…

Jesus, that's potentially cluster****-tastic.

jeffers
11-04-2023, 04:37 PM
At this point my best scenario was an end of April appointment, which is still way too late. 12 weeks to appoint FFS.

Yeah I’m in agreement with you. I just wonder if this is going to be a token appointment and nothing is really going to change. I really hope I’m wrong.

B.H.F.C
11-04-2023, 04:38 PM
As far as I know interviews have taken place and on track to be announced by the end of the month. No idea of any names but I don’t believe the person we appoint is already at the club.

I was told three weeks ago, on Friday just past, that we had five people to interview over the following two and a half weeks. Presuming that has happened as planned then I’d say appointment/announcement over the next couple of weeks sounds about right (by the time we reduce shortlist and have second conversations you’d imagine).

One Day Soon
11-04-2023, 04:40 PM
Yeah I’m in agreement with you. I just wonder if this is going to be a token appointment and nothing is really going to change. I really hope I’m wrong.

That's remarkable, truly remarkable.

I didn't think it was possible to make me feel more negatively about what's happening at ER but the notion of a tokenistic appointment - with presumably IG the real power behind the throne, or even the actual power ON the throne - after 12 weeks of eff all else happening is just brutal.

One Day Soon
11-04-2023, 04:41 PM
I was told three weeks ago, on Friday just past, that we had five people to interview over the following two and a half weeks. Presuming that has happened as planned then I’d say appointment/announcement over the next couple of weeks sounds about right (by the time we reduce shortlist and have second conversations you’d imagine).

How? How and why would it take this long? Would we have taken 12 weeks to appoint a new manager? I doubt that very much.

B.H.F.C
11-04-2023, 06:21 PM
How? How and why would it take this long? Would we have taken 12 weeks to appoint a new manager? I doubt that very much.

I’m not sure what you’re actually asking when you say how? I’m only commenting that, from what I was told, the timeline would fit with what the other poster said about us having someone in place by the end of this month.

It might just be me but 12 weeks doesn’t seem like that long for a senior appointment like this. Particularly when you chuck in the owner dying in that period of time as well. Obviously we’d appoint a manager quicker because we’d want them in to take an actual game but I don’t think the two things are directly comparable. I dare say they could have appointed someone easily enough by now if they really wanted to for the sake of it.

Whether whoever is appointed turns out to be any good is a different question and there are things about some of the comments from Kensell/Johnson that I find strange. But I don’t think 12 weeks for this type of thing is terribly excessive.

greenlex
11-04-2023, 06:48 PM
As far as I know interviews have taken place and on track to be announced by the end of the month. No idea of any names but I don’t believe the person we appoint is already at the club.
I don’t think they are officially at the club either but know they are coming and getting on with getting on. Hopefully that’s the case anyway.

Box 17
11-04-2023, 06:52 PM
Not convinced the DoF appointment, if it comes to pass, is the panacea that many think it's going to be.

Ultimately it comes down to what our transfer budget is and in a competitive market how much we are able to pay a player. And good players, better than we have already, don't come cheap.

Employing an additional member of the backroom team on a decent wage means less to spend on players.

Depends who it is of course as to whether or not they add value.

madhatter
11-04-2023, 07:05 PM
Not convinced the DoF appointment, if it comes to pass, is the panacea that many think it's going to be.

Ultimately it comes down to what our transfer budget is and in a competitive market how much we are able to pay a player. And good players, better than we have already, don't come cheap.

Employing an additional member of the backroom team on a decent wage means less to spend on players.

Depends who it is of course as to whether or not they add value.

Clean the squad of the rubbish which is sadly close to 70% of the players. For varying reasons of course; age, skill, injury history.

Then spend what budget we have on 6-7 top quality players for our budget then do the thing we seem really reluctant to do, fill the rest of our squad with youngsters.

Tait and Delferriere will be collecting their pensions before they get a game at Hibs. We must have a brilliant midfield...

We've got 4-5 young players that should be given the chance to be first team regulars next season. Will they? Doubt it.

Irish_Steve
11-04-2023, 07:07 PM
Maybe we were waiting for Robbie Replay to be sacked before appointing him DOF???

One Day Soon
11-04-2023, 08:32 PM
Not convinced the DoF appointment, if it comes to pass, is the panacea that many think it's going to be.

Ultimately it comes down to what our transfer budget is and in a competitive market how much we are able to pay a player. And good players, better than we have already, don't come cheap.

Employing an additional member of the backroom team on a decent wage means less to spend on players.

Depends who it is of course as to whether or not they add value.


I don't know whether it will be the answer to our problems or not but I do know that since those running the club identified appointing a DoF as the way ahead then they should have secured one by now. We are going to be treated to some codswallop in the run up to and during the next transfer window and who would be surprised if that didn't start with statements on the need to let the new person settle and take the right decisions as a precursor to an entirely underwhelming summer window yet again?

Smartie
11-04-2023, 08:37 PM
I don't know whether it will be the answer to our problems or not but I do know that since those running the club identified appointing a DoF as the way ahead then they should have secured one by now. We are going to be treated to some codswallop in the run up to and during the next transfer window and who would be surprised if that didn't start with statements on the need to let the new person settle and take the right decisions as a precursor to an entirely underwhelming summer window yet again?

I think a big reason behind our last 2 summers being as atrocious as they have been has been the lack of preparations for one reason or another for the months leading up to them.

Watching Hibs operate is like watching a car crash in slow motion. We’re going to be scrambling around for bargains at the end of the window in an attempt to get an acceptable midfield together again, aren’t we?

Alex Trager
11-04-2023, 08:44 PM
I think a big reason behind our last 2 summers being as atrocious as they have been has been the lack of preparations for one reason or another for the months leading up to them.

Watching Hibs operate is like watching a car crash in slow motion. We’re going to be scrambling around for bargains at the end of the window in an attempt to get an acceptable midfield together again, aren’t we?
To end up with the outstanding Newell, JDH and Campbell with KM a week away?

Sounds like perfection to me!

Scotty Leither
11-04-2023, 09:00 PM
Nowt will be done until the ownership issue is sorted out. I don’t buy the commitment statement from the Gordons; not based on animus towards them, it just doesn’t sit right with the appointment of McPherson as chairman.

He’s just there as a safe pair of hands until hopefully a buyer is found. I wouldn’t think they’d splash out on a new DoF either and then tell him there’s little or no money to work with.

Time will tell, but it’s interesting times at Easter Road just now.

bingo70
11-04-2023, 09:06 PM
Nowt will be done until the ownership issue is sorted out. I don’t buy the commitment statement from the Gordons; not based on animus towards them, it just doesn’t sit right with the appointment of McPherson as chairman.

He’s just there as a safe pair of hands until hopefully a buyer is found. I wouldn’t think they’d splash out on a new DoF either and then tell him there’s little or no money to work with.

Time will tell, but it’s interesting times at Easter Road just now.

Agree with the general point but any DoF who is appointed will know their job is to find the best freebies we can get our hands on. There won’t be much money to work with, that’s why we need a good DoF with good contacts and relationships.

One Day Soon
12-04-2023, 11:41 AM
It was thirteen weeks yesterday that Kensell put an article on the club website stating that we would be appointing a Director of Football and that "Ultimately that person will lead from a footballing side from a strategy and structure perspective. They will review all areas of the footballing side...".

That's three months and one week ago. No appointment. This person is to dictate our football strategy and structure.

They're not here yet and the transfer window opens at the beginning of June - just six weeks away. How TF will this person make informed judgements on our playing squad and potential signings if they haven't watched our players play?

WhileTheChief..
12-04-2023, 11:57 AM
RG was ill long before BK talked about bringing in the DOF.

His passing, whilst sudden and unexpected for us, wouldn’t have been so much for the folks at Hibs.

We would have been planning for this before December or January.

B.H.F.C
12-04-2023, 11:57 AM
It was thirteen weeks yesterday that Kensell put an article on the club website stating that we would be appointing a Director of Football and that "Ultimately that person will lead from a footballing side from a strategy and structure perspective. They will review all areas of the footballing side...".

That's three months and one week ago. No appointment. This person is to dictate our football strategy and structure.

They're not here yet and the transfer window opens at the beginning of June - just six weeks away. How TF will this person make informed judgements on our playing squad and potential signings if they haven't watched our players play?

Can they only start watching once they’ve signed a contract with us?

One Day Soon
12-04-2023, 12:01 PM
Can they only start watching once they’ve signed a contract with us?


How often have you started doing the work for a new employer before you had actually been appointed?

flash
12-04-2023, 12:06 PM
That's remarkable, truly remarkable.

I didn't think it was possible to make me feel more negatively about what's happening at ER but the notion of a tokenistic appointment - with presumably IG the real power behind the throne, or even the actual power ON the throne - after 12 weeks of eff all else happening is just brutal.

Calm down to a panic.

SickBoy32
12-04-2023, 12:10 PM
My gripe with the DoF route, is that it is all so reactive

This is a season, which was mothballed for nearly 2 months during the World Cup - why not get the DoF in then?

I won't be convinced that this DoF update was anything other than a deflection tactic, to lessen the heat on Kensell and Johnson - following a poor run of form (pre and post World Cup), culminating in being taken apart in the NY derby

OP is bang on, for a DoF to be appointed April/May - is extremely negligent, and does not give me any faith that the current execs have a clue what they're doing

I fear we'll continue our decline until we get a competent CEO in, with a competent manager

B.H.F.C
12-04-2023, 12:13 PM
How often have you started doing the work for a new employer before you had actually been appointed?

Think you know the two things aren’t comparative.

Lee Johnson watched us before we employed him didn’t he? For all the good it did right enough.

Folk involved in football watch and attend a lot of football. Unemployed managers, coaches etc are at games all the time. Or could be doing media work or whatever else. Anyone coming in should know exactly what they’re coming in to, otherwise how do they get through an interview process?

I don’t have any real confidence in us appointing the right guy, but I find the observation that he won’t have watched us etc before coming in a bit bizarre. Surely it’s the first thing you’d be doing when you were going for the job. It’s the advantage of football being played to the public.

One Day Soon
12-04-2023, 12:15 PM
Calm down to a panic.


Panic? :rotflmao:

I've seen this script more often than I've watched The Great Escape and that's a lot of times.

One Day Soon
12-04-2023, 12:26 PM
Think you know the two things aren’t comparative.

Lee Johnson watched us before we employed him didn’t he? For all the good it did right enough.

Folk involved in football watch and attend a lot of football. Unemployed managers, coaches etc are at games all the time. Or could be doing media work or whatever else. Anyone coming in should know exactly what they’re coming in to, otherwise how do they get through an interview process?

I don’t have any real confidence in us appointing the right guy, but I find the observation that he won’t have watched us etc before coming in a bit bizarre. Surely it’s the first thing you’d be doing when you were going for the job. It’s the advantage of football being played to the public.


The notion that an incoming Director of Football has somehow been secretly preparing for this job is, forgive me, utterly ridiculous wishful thinking.

Firstly no appointment has been made so this secret DoF doesn't even know yet that they are getting the gig.

Secondly, how many clubs does a potential DoF need to be watching closely in case they get a gig?

Thirdly, since they are to be responsible for ALL of the footballing side of the club they would need to be hiding behind the bushes at EM watching its operation, taking in non first team games, taking in first team games, invisibly speaking to both LJ and players to weigh them up and of course keeping an eye on players elsewhere to test against the gaps and shortfalls in our own squad which they don't yet actually know what they are.

All this person will know is that we're quite 5hit and need a deep overhaul. Christ, didn't Lee Johnson pronounce himself pretty happy with the squad we had when he was appointed, saying that there was enough there to get us playing high tempo attacking football? It will take many weeks if not months for a new appointment to get the measure of what they are dealing with.

Our next transfer window is going to be grim, unless we are starting from the basis that we need to get rid of 95% and start with a near clean sheet. Since we don't have the money for that I'll bet on grim, again.

B.H.F.C
12-04-2023, 12:34 PM
The notion that an incoming Director of Football has somehow been secretly preparing for this job is, forgive me, utterly ridiculous wishful thinking.

Firstly no appointment has been made so this secret DoF doesn't even know yet that they are getting the gig.

Secondly, how many clubs does a potential DoF need to be watching closely in case they get a gig?

Thirdly, since they are to be responsible for ALL of the footballing side of the club they would need to be hiding behind the bushes at EM watching its operation, taking in non first team games, taking in first team games, invisibly speaking to both LJ and players to weigh them up and of course keeping an eye on players elsewhere to test against the gaps and shortfalls in our own squad which they don't yet actually know what they are.

All this person will know is that we're quite 5hit and need a deep overhaul. Christ, didn't Lee Johnson pronounce himself pretty happy with the squad we had when he was appointed, saying that there was enough there to get us playing high tempo attacking football? It will take many weeks if not months for a new appointment to get the measure of what they are dealing with.

Our next transfer window is going to be grim, unless we are starting from the basis that we need to get rid of 95% and start with a near clean sheet. Since we don't have the money for that I'll bet on grim, again.

You're being daft now with your talk of hiding in the bushes etc. I merely responded to your observation that they won’t have been able to watch and form opinions on our players. I think we’ve established that they could do that quite easily. And if they have absolutely anything about them they will have. They’re not just going to turn up on day 1 knowing nothing about us and if they don’t, it would give them very little to talk about in an interview.

One Day Soon
12-04-2023, 12:44 PM
You're being daft now with your talk of hiding in the bushes etc. I merely responded to your observation that they won’t have been able to watch and form opinions on our players. I think we’ve established that they could do that quite easily. And if they have absolutely anything about them they will have. They’re not just going to turn up on day 1 knowing nothing about us and if they don’t, it would give them very little to talk about in an interview.


We haven't established that at all. We have a very large squad and plenty of those - and the youths and the players out on loan - aren't getting games to even be watched at. And that's supposing that this person is getting along to every game in the hope that they might be appointed. It's absolutely not happening.

Unless they are someone already at the club.

MWHIBBIES
12-04-2023, 12:52 PM
I'd also assume Ron's passing has played a part, but let's be totally honest, I don't think he had a clue how to run the football side of the club at any point since the takeover.

I feared big time when Leeann left.

B.H.F.C
12-04-2023, 01:00 PM
We haven't established that at all. We have a very large squad and plenty of those - and the youths and the players out on loan - aren't getting games to even be watched at. And that's supposing that this person is getting along to every game in the hope that they might be appointed. It's absolutely not happening.

Unless they are someone already at the club.

There are dozens of teams that I don’t support that I have seen play 20 odd times this season. I think people who make their living from football will watch a lot more than me, at varying levels, at varying age groups and in varying settings. I think your initial point that they won’t have been able to watch us and form opinions on our players is rubbish, even if I am sceptical (like you) about the appointment in general. Of course there are things that they won’t find out until they’re in the door but on that particular point, I think they’ll have a more than fair idea of what they’re looking at.

If we get someone in fairly imminently then the timeframe doesn’t overly concern me even if Kensell’s ability to get the right person does.

SHODAN
12-04-2023, 01:05 PM
Where's Hecky when you need him?

Irish_Steve
12-04-2023, 05:39 PM
Panic? :rotflmao:

I've seen this script more often than I've watched The Great Escape and that's a lot of times.

Two hundred…….two hundred and fifty????

One Day Soon
13-04-2023, 01:34 PM
Two hundred…….two hundred and fifty????

The problem with Hibs is, we have in effect put all the rotten eggs in one basket...

KeithTheHibby
13-04-2023, 02:02 PM
How? How and why would it take this long? Would we have taken 12 weeks to appoint a new manager? I doubt that very much.

You are comparing apples and pears for a start. A manager would be in place quicker than 12 weeks, granted however games are weekly so there is more of an urgency.
I don’t think 3 months is a long time to appoint a DOF. How do you know they are not currently working at another club at present? And currently working a notice period?

ancient hibee
13-04-2023, 02:14 PM
I'd also assume Ron's passing has played a part, but let's be totally honest, I don't think he had a clue how to run the football side of the club at any point since the takeover.

I feared big time when Leeann left.

It's good to see she is following all the Hibs traditions including selling your best goal scorer when you need him most.:greengrin

One Day Soon
13-04-2023, 02:34 PM
You are comparing apples and pears for a start. A manager would be in place quicker than 12 weeks, granted however games are weekly so there is more of an urgency.
I don’t think 3 months is a long time to appoint a DOF. How do you know they are not currently working at another club at present? And currently working a notice period?


That might be true in the event that we were a relatively stable ship, had a decent squad, faced little urgency about the imminent transfer window and already had a smooth running side to the football operation. The reality is that none of that is true. In the circumstances we are in I think three months and one week is a recklessly long time to take to appoint someone to the role which the leadership of the club appears to itself believe is the pivotal role in moving us forward on the football side.

The woeful winter transfer window was effectively justified by reference to the need for this appointment. We are now in the process of jeopardising our summer transfer window - yet again - by still not having appointed someone authoritative in time for them to assess and understand where we are at and formulating what action is required in that window.

One Day Soon
21-04-2023, 09:32 AM
Bump.

Now more than three months and two weeks and still no Director of Football in place. Perhaps as little as six weeks until the summer window opens.

Who is identifying our targets? Who is conducting negotiations? Who is assessing the full playing complement of the club to determine medium and long term development? I find it hard to see how anything other than a continuity Ian Gordon led team is holding the reigns here and that is a terrifying thought.

We're already now going into this window without the key figure in place in time that the club said we needed to pull the footballing side together.

What is going on?

Trinity Hibee
21-04-2023, 10:07 AM
Bump.

Now more than three months and two weeks and still no Director of Football in place. Perhaps as little as six weeks until the summer window opens.

Who is identifying our targets? Who is conducting negotiations? Who is assessing the full playing complement of the club to determine medium and long term development? I find it hard to see how anything other than a continuity Ian Gordon led team is holding the reigns here and that is a terrifying thought.

We're already now going into this window without the key figure in place in time that the club said we needed to pull the footballing side together.

What is going on?


It’s a fair question. You’d hope an appointment is announced next week once we have (hopefully) secured top 6.

Whichever applicants have applied for the role I’d like to think already have a dossier of players they have identified for us to go after.

Keith_M
21-04-2023, 10:18 AM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/sport-opinion/mickey-weir-hibs-need-to-make-good-on-their-promise-and-soon-4109241


The OP is Mickey Weir, and I claim my fifty quid.


:greengrin

bingo70
21-04-2023, 10:53 AM
I don’t think it takes this long to make an appointment so there will be a reason why there’s been couch a delay.

I think they will either already be in work somewhere else and it’s just a case of getting the timing right.

It may be linked to the partnership with the City group that LJ has spoken of and possibly someone already employed there.

It is someone already at the club and we are hoping until we make top 6 before confirming so it doesn’t look like we are rewarding failure by promoting someone already involved in the structure of the club.

Just my tuppenceworth but I’d be surprised if the person getting the job next season doesn’t know it already.

Hibby70
21-04-2023, 11:06 AM
Two hundred…….two hundred and fifty????

Cmon guys we can't just go around employing any Tom, Dick or Harry.

TT07
21-04-2023, 11:31 AM
Bump.

Now more than three months and two weeks and still no Director of Football in place. Perhaps as little as six weeks until the summer window opens.

Who is identifying our targets? Who is conducting negotiations? Who is assessing the full playing complement of the club to determine medium and long term development? I find it hard to see how anything other than a continuity Ian Gordon led team is holding the reigns here and that is a terrifying thought.

We're already now going into this window without the key figure in place in time that the club said we needed to pull the footballing side together.

What is going on?

The DoF appointment should be backed with a 3/5 year plan which would drive the need to get the right person. I think we should also consider that the person we want may be employed elsewhere and we are awaiting an end of contract with their current employer.

hibsbollah
21-04-2023, 12:01 PM
The DoF appointment should be backed with a 3/5 year plan which would drive the need to get the right person. I think we should also consider that the person we want may be employed elsewhere and we are awaiting an end of contract with their current employer.

:agree: that’s a strong possibility. Getting the appointment done early is not nearly as important as getting it right. If it took another fortnight its really not something I’m concerned about.

Hibernian Verse
21-04-2023, 12:03 PM
:agree: that’s a strong possibility. Getting the appointment done early is not nearly as important as getting it right. If it took another fortnight its really not something I’m concerned about.

Just like all the signings we make during the window.

Impatience is a trait of many a football fan.

Brightside
21-04-2023, 12:27 PM
The DoF appointment should be backed with a 3/5 year plan which would drive the need to get the right person. I think we should also consider that the person we want may be employed elsewhere and we are awaiting an end of contract with their current employer.

Not another 5 year plan. :greengrin

One Day Soon
21-04-2023, 01:36 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/sport-opinion/mickey-weir-hibs-need-to-make-good-on-their-promise-and-soon-4109241


The OP is Mickey Weir, and I claim my fifty quid.


:greengrin

Sadly I'm not him, but I was at school with him.

One Day Soon
21-04-2023, 01:38 PM
Cmon guys we can't just go around employing any Tom, Dick or Harry.


The Hibernian signing policy is quite close to insanity. And it must stop.

One Day Soon
21-04-2023, 01:39 PM
Just like all the signings we make during the window.

Impatience is a trait of many a football fan.


"Impatience" :faf:

Tell me, how many consecutive windows is it that we have ****ed up in now?

Hibernian Verse
21-04-2023, 03:21 PM
"Impatience" :faf:

Tell me, how many consecutive windows is it that we have ****ed up in now?

Multiple. You're complaining about the lack of appointment of a DOF, and you are being impatient.

You said yourself that you hate the club in its current form, so maybe it's not impatience actually.

TT07
21-04-2023, 03:37 PM
Not another 5 year plan. :greengrin

Rollingv5 year plan:-)

One Day Soon
21-04-2023, 03:44 PM
Multiple. You're complaining about the lack of appointment of a DOF, and you are being impatient.

You said yourself that you hate the club in its current form, so maybe it's not impatience actually.


Almost a third of a year has passed since the desire to put in place a Director of Football was announced as being key to improving the football side of the club. And that third of a year also happens to coincide with the summer transfer window opening in around six weeks time. Unless we have a secret DoF at work (rather reminds me of the Hearts secret world cup stars) we are already going to be woefully late out of the blocks in identifying both our weaknesses and our targets to strengthen those or - and this is much worse - reliant upon the same people who mis-invested serially recently.

I'm not being impatient, I'm being realistic. I think you may be being complacent, actually.

GreenCastle
21-04-2023, 03:55 PM
It’s a fair point about how long does it take to sort the DOF.

Players contracts are expiring - players will be needing to know if they are getting new deals.

I wouldn’t say it’s folk panicking but it surely has to be sorted soon.

We will probably do a Hearts and announce Kean who was with us all along.

Keith_M
21-04-2023, 05:43 PM
Sadly I'm not him, but I was at school with him.


Everyone deserves a claim to fame.


Still trying to work out what mine is, though.

:greengrin

MWHIBBIES
21-04-2023, 06:04 PM
When I think about it, I already worry for next season. Can see this summer window being a shambles.

007
21-04-2023, 06:09 PM
When I think about it, I already worry for next season. Can see this summer window being a shambles.

Best to get one shanbles out of the way 1st before worrying about the next one.😀 That said, our season could be over this time tomorrow. 😬

Paul1642
21-04-2023, 06:10 PM
When I think about it, I already worry for next season. Can see this summer window being a shambles.

I have much more faith in it if Lee Johnson stays. Established manager who knows what he wants / needs.

Jim44
21-04-2023, 06:35 PM
I expect a solid win tomorrow but, as a long suffering Hibby, I won’t be surprised if we blow it. Having said that, if we lose, I would stick with LJ, which contradicts my thoughts of the last few weeks.

Paul1642
21-04-2023, 07:07 PM
I expect a solid win tomorrow but, as a long suffering Hibby, I won’t be surprised if we blow it. Having said that, if we lose, I would stick with LJ, which contradicts my thoughts of the last few weeks.

My thoughts too. We haven’t had consistent success for a long time despite frequent changing managers. Maybe it’s time to give one a bit longer. We sacked Hecky after 9 months with a worse win rate and now he’s about to take Sheffield United into the Premiership.

One Day Soon
28-04-2023, 10:42 AM
Bump again.

It will be 16 weeks on Tuesday of next week since Kensell put his piece on the Club website stating the importance and intention of getting the Director of Football appointed.

That will be four months, or fully a third of a year passed without the appointment being made. By then the transfer window we will be about 4 weeks away from the summer transfer window opening.

So this summer's signings are going to be identified, approached and signed by exactly the same people who have comprehensively ****ed up all of the recent transfer windows. And with the passing of Ron Gordon one or two of those individuals are going to have even more entrenched control of the choices made.

Bojang-tastic.

Smartie
28-04-2023, 01:54 PM
I don’t think there is anyone at the wheel.

It leaves me with mixed feelings - obviously we’re needing a good transfer window and the past few (summer ones anyway) haven’t been anywhere near good enough.

The circumstances this year are somewhat unique and tragic though, so I find it hard to be as pissed off about it as maybe I should.

I’m yet to renew…

Bridge hibs
29-04-2023, 05:02 AM
I don’t think there is anyone at the wheel.

It leaves me with mixed feelings - obviously we’re needing a good transfer window and the past few (summer ones anyway) haven’t been anywhere near good enough.

The circumstances this year are somewhat unique and tragic though, so I find it hard to be as pissed off about it as maybe I should.

I’m yet to renew…We renewed, not through my choice but my Wife gave me the rubber ear whenI suggested we dont renew. More to do with not being available most weekends due to other stuff in my life, but hey ho, another near grand in the hibs pot I suppose

WhileTheChief..
29-04-2023, 07:28 AM
When I think about it, I already worry for next season. Can see this summer window being a shambles.

Will be glad when this season is over, it's been awful, and whether we finish 4th or 6th won't hide that.

We should be better placed next year as LJ, and the club as a whole, should know what is required to improve us, but I think it will go pretty much the same way as this one and don't expect much to happen in the summer window either.

flash
29-04-2023, 07:38 AM
Bump again.

It will be 16 weeks on Tuesday of next week since Kensell put his piece on the Club website stating the importance and intention of getting the Director of Football appointed.

That will be four months, or fully a third of a year passed without the appointment being made. By then the transfer window we will be about 4 weeks away from the summer transfer window opening.

So this summer's signings are going to be identified, approached and signed by exactly the same people who have comprehensively ****ed up all of the recent transfer windows. And with the passing of Ron Gordon one or two of those individuals are going to have even more entrenched control of the choices made.

Bojang-tastic.

In your opinion Corporal Jones.

Iain G
29-04-2023, 08:12 AM
Bump again.

It will be 16 weeks on Tuesday of next week since Kensell put his piece on the Club website stating the importance and intention of getting the Director of Football appointed.

That will be four months, or fully a third of a year passed without the appointment being made. By then the transfer window we will be about 4 weeks away from the summer transfer window opening.

So this summer's signings are going to be identified, approached and signed by exactly the same people who have comprehensively ****ed up all of the recent transfer windows. And with the passing of Ron Gordon one or two of those individuals are going to have even more entrenched control of the choices made.

Bojang-tastic.

We didn't **** up the winter transfer window