Emergency text alerts. Test April 23.

[CropleyWasGod]

Sharing an email from a colleague, which might be of interest or use to some. I've highlighted the point of concern.


We have recently been alerted to the new emergency alert service the UK government is launching to warn the public about events such as fires and extreme weather.

On Sunday 23rd April 2023, there will be a test of this new service. This will send an alert to all phones. The alert will be a short text message on screen plus a sound and vibration for approximately 10 seconds. This alert will sound even if the phone is on silent or not connected to mobile data/WiFi.

Please share with any and all of your networks as this could be really important for a service user, friend or colleague who has a secret or secondary mobile phone hidden from an abusive partner.

People can take actions to ensure that the emergency alert will not show up or sound on their phones. They will NOT receive an emergency alert if their phone is switched off or on airplane mode. The charity Refuge have also shared a video showing how to turn off the emergency alerts on Android phones and iPhones. More information about the alert service is available here.

[Since90+2]

Interesting that it will play a sound even if on silent. The fact that the government have the technology to basically override your own settings on your mobile is rather odd IMO.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Interesting that it will play a sound even if on silent. The fact that the government have the technology to basically override your own settings on your mobile is rather odd IMO.

Potentially life saving though


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[CropleyWasGod]

Potentially life saving though


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...or the opposite, hence the concerns.

[Since90+2]

...or the opposite, hence the concerns.

The number of people who have second phones hidden from their partner, but not necessarily in abusive relationships, is probably not an insignificant number.

I can imagine a few people and relationships getting a shock on Sunday. Although, if they all go off at literally the same second, it might not be noticeable.

[Scouse Hibee]

The number of people who have second phones hidden from their partner, but not necessarily in abusive relationships, is probably not an insignificant number.

I can imagine a few people and relationships getting a shock on Sunday. Although, if they all go off at literally the same second, it might not be noticeable.

I think secondary SIMS rather than phones is more likely and therefore not affected. (Speaking from experience, not my own I might add)

[Moulin Yarns]

Confirmed as 3pm on 23rd

[Edina Street]

Sharing an email from a colleague, which might be of interest or use to some. I've highlighted the point of concern.


We have recently been alerted to the new emergency alert service the UK government is launching to warn the public about events such as fires and extreme weather.

On Sunday 23rd April 2023, there will be a test of this new service. This will send an alert to all phones. The alert will be a short text message on screen plus a sound and vibration for approximately 10 seconds. This alert will sound even if the phone is on silent or not connected to mobile data/WiFi.

Please share with any and all of your networks as this could be really important for a service user, friend or colleague who has a secret or secondary mobile phone hidden from an abusive partner.

People can take actions to ensure that the emergency alert will not show up or sound on their phones. They will NOT receive an emergency alert if their phone is switched off or on airplane mode. The charity Refuge have also shared a video showing how to turn off the emergency alerts on Android phones and iPhones. More information about the alert service is available here.

What do the government consider an emergency?

(Apologies if I appear to lazy to do my own research).

[CropleyWasGod]

What do the government consider an emergency?

(Apologies if I appear to lazy to do my own research).

"The alert system will be used to warn of extreme weather events, such as flash floods or wildfires. It could also be used during terror incidents or civil defence emergencies if the UK was under attack."


Not sure why they'd bother telling us about a nuclear strike....:rolleyes:

[Edina Street]

"The alert system will be used to warn of extreme weather events, such as flash floods or wildfires. It could also be used during terror incidents or civil defence emergencies if the UK was under attack."


Not sure why they'd bother telling us about a nuclear strike....:rolleyes:

"Arthur Seat is on fire, stay away" is about the only emergency alert which I can think of being applicable to us Edinburgh citizens in the height of a scorching summer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnyXxbjUjvA

I have not read any of the arguments against this emergency alert, but I could well see emergency alerts having the opposite effect, and actually attract rubberneckers to the area. I know on the night of the Manchester Arena Bombing I was driving back from London up the M6 and I had a drop to make in Rochdale. All the way along the motorway there was flashing yellow warning lights with wording: "Manchester closed, stay away". I had this burning desire to drive in to Manchester just to prove how brave I am. I resisted and waited until I got back to Edinburgh and I googled what had happened.

But I suppose overall, I can understand how it could have its advantages.

[archie]

"The alert system will be used to warn of extreme weather events, such as flash floods or wildfires. It could also be used during terror incidents or civil defence emergencies if the UK was under attack."


Not sure why they'd bother telling us about a nuclear strike....:rolleyes:It would allow me to retire to my bunker, stocked with ample supplies of food and alcohol and a 100" telly showing reruns of the cup final and 0:7.

[Edina Street]

It would allow me to retire to my bunker, stocked with ample supplies of food and alcohol and a 100" telly showing reruns of the cup final and 0:7.

I hope you also have a good few fully charged Lead Crystal Batteries with you to make up for the fact that there is likely to be an electric power outage.

https://remm.hhs.gov/EMP.htm#:~:text=After%20a%20nuclear%20detonation%2 C%20there,miles%20from%20the%20detonation%20site.

After a nuclear detonation, there is the potential for cascading effects along transmission lines in this area. This could mean electrical, phone, and Internet outages. These cascading effects may extend for hundreds of miles from the detonation site.

Access to the internet in such an event also appears unlikely.

[archie]

I hope you also have a good few fully charged Lead Crystal Batteries with you to make up for the fact that there is likely to be an electric power outage.

https://remm.hhs.gov/EMP.htm#:~:text=After%20a%20nuclear%20detonation%2 C%20there,miles%20from%20the%20detonation%20site.


Access to the internet in such an event also appears unlikely.

Ah - didn't think that through. I can post from my phone though?

[CropleyWasGod]

Ah - didn't think that through. I can post from my phone though?

No-one will be reading, though.


(insert your own punchline :greengrin)

[wookie70]

"Arthur Seat is on fire, stay away" is about the only emergency alert which I can think of being applicable to us Edinburgh citizens in the height of a scorching summer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnyXxbjUjvA

I have not read any of the arguments against this emergency alert, but I could well see emergency alerts having the opposite effect, and actually attract rubberneckers to the area. I know on night of the Manchester Arena Bombing I was driving back from London up the M6 and I had a drop to make in Rochdale. All the way along the motorway there was flashing yellow warning lights with wording: "Manchester closed, stay away". I had this burning desire to drive in to Manchester just to prove how brave I am. I resisted and waited until I got back to Edinburgh and I googled what had happened.

But I suppose overall, I can understand how it could have its advantages.

I remember reading that someone whose kid had been murdered now had to put up with tourists visiting trying to work out what happened etc.

I'm struggling to see how it will be useful. Most weather events are known about in time for decisions to be made by householders. None of the big weather alerts we have had came as a surprise in recent years and usually the advice is to stay home. Even Arthur Seat being on fire would only be a big issue for those up there and I expect they will know before the alert. There are a multitude of channels to communicate on already and I think this is just another intrusion into my personal space and a way of stoking up more fear. If there is a nuclear warhead coming my way I think I would rather be blissfully unaware than lose the last wee while worrying about it. If someone was invading our shores I suspect I would have a wee hint of that before it happened and what am I going to do anyway. I'll be interested to see the cost and who got the contract. My guess is expensive and someone in Governments mate.

[archie]

No-one will be reading, though.


(insert your own punchline :greengrin)

Oh well - I can just watch something relaxing then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzd_VE-bfhA&ab_channel=BFI

[archie]

I remember reading that someone whose kid had been murdered now had to put up with tourists visiting trying to work out what happened etc.

I'm struggling to see how it will be useful. Most weather events are known about in time for decisions to be made by householders. None of the big weather alerts we have had came as a surprise in recent years and usually the advice is to stay home. Even Arthur Seat being on fire would only be a big issue for those up there and I expect they will know before the alert. There are a multitude of channels to communicate on already and I think this is just another intrusion into my personal space and a way of stoking up more fear. If there is a nuclear warhead coming my way I think I would rather be blissfully unaware than lose the last wee while worrying about it. If someone was invading our shores I suspect I would have a wee hint of that before it happened and what am I going to do anyway. I'll be interested to see the cost and who got the contract. My guess is expensive and someone in Governments mate.

If a nuclear warhead was coming I'd be standing outside with a large glass of whisky. But isn't there merit in having something in the unlikely event of something awful happening?

[Edina Street]

If a nuclear warhead was coming I'd be standing outside with a large glass of whisky. But isn't there merit in having something in the unlikely event of something awful happening?

I'd hide out in Jenners.

[wookie70]

If a nuclear warhead was coming I'd be standing outside with a large glass of whisky. But isn't there merit in having something in the unlikely event of something awful happening?


You would have to be more specific. I dare say there would be for some and it would give the opportunity to say goodbye to love ones etc. For me if you are telling loved ones a few minutes before you die that you are sorry or you love them etc it would have been better said long before that. There may be an instance where I could see benefit but I can't think of one. Even then I would like it to be a sign up to service rather than forced on citizens.

[One Day Soon]

There are plenty of circumstances in which the capability to do this could be important and useful without it bein an 'end of the world' scenario.

A nuclear threat doesn't have to be either an incoming full scale strike or indeed an incoming strike at all. It could be a limited strike or it could be a terrorist bomb. It could be a one-off dirty bomb.

It could relate to the limited and illustrative use of a Russian hypersonic missile.

It could be geology related - a tsunami or earthquake, or a consequence of an Icelandic volcanic eruption.

It could be flooding related.

It could be very extreme weather related.

It could be epidemic related.

It could be space strike related - eg a late detected incoming asteroid impact.

It could be loss of internet/web related should someone decide to go for sub-sea cable destruction.

It could be energy shortage related.

It could be - my favourite - zombie apocalypse related.

And finally it could of course be telly related - 'Eurovision is about to start, get on it.'

[archie]

There are plenty of circumstances in which the capability to do this could be important and useful without it bein an 'end of the world' scenario.

A nuclear threat doesn't have to be either an incoming full scale strike or indeed an incoming strike at all. It could be a limited strike or it could be a terrorist bomb. It could be a one-off dirty bomb.

It could relate to the limited and illustrative use of a Russian hypersonic missile.

It could be geology related - a tsunami or earthquake, or a consequence of an Icelandic volcanic eruption.

It could be flooding related.

It could be very extreme weather related.

It could be epidemic related.

It could be space strike related - eg a late detected incoming asteroid impact.

It could be loss of internet/web related should someone decide to go for sub-sea cable destruction.

It could be energy shortage related.

It could be - my favourite - zombie apocalypse related.

And finally it could of course be telly related - 'Eurovision is about to start, get on it.'

Or a chemical spill, freak weather event etc. I would like warnings when Eurovision is about to come on - for different reasons.

[Edina Street]

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I just hope Putin does not choose Sunday 23 April to launch an attack!!

[One Day Soon]

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I just hope Putin does not choose Sunday 23 April to launch an attack!!


Not sure why Glasgow, Aberdeen and Grangemouth would get a pass according to that graphic?

[CropleyWasGod]

Not sure why Glasgow, Aberdeen and Grangemouth would get a pass according to that graphic?

A nuclear strike might improve them?

[Hibbyradge]

It would allow me to retire to my bunker, stocked with ample supplies of food and alcohol and a 100" telly showing reruns of the cup final and 0:7.

No porn?

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Not sure why Glasgow, Aberdeen and Grangemouth would get a pass according to that graphic?

Swansea more of a target than Glasgow gave me a good laugh, got to love the British tabloids


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[archie]

No porn?

Is that asking me or telling me?

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I hope you also have a good few fully charged Lead Crystal Batteries with you to make up for the fact that there is likely to be an electric power outage.

https://remm.hhs.gov/EMP.htm#:~:text=After%20a%20nuclear%20detonation%2 C%20there,miles%20from%20the%20detonation%20site.


Access to the internet in such an event also appears unlikely.

Did you not learn anything from Only Fools & Horses?

[Scouse Hibee]

I can’t believe the amount of people getting their knickers in a twist over this on social media. Folk who no doubt are never off their phones and don’t bother where or when it rings or pings are now outraged and proudly declaring they have turned alerts off 😂

[Stairway 2 7]

I can’t believe the amount of people getting their knickers in a twist over this on social media. Folk who no doubt are never off their phones and don’t bother where or when it rings or pings are now outraged and proudly declaring they have turned alerts off 😂

Were about the last major Western country to set up these alerts, but Josh Taylor thinks its a scam and the government are tracking us so it must be

[SaulGoodman]

Were about the last major Western country to set up these alerts, but Josh Taylor thinks its a scam and the government are tracking us so it must be

Josh Taylor’s took one too many blows to the head.

[Hibbyradge]

Is that asking me or telling me?

:greengrin

The question mark was a clue.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Josh Taylor’s took one too many blows to the head.

:agree:

An absolute fanny.

[Glory Lurker]

For librarians' sake, I'm pleased it's not going to happen on a weekday.

[CropleyWasGod]

For librarians' sake, I'm pleased it's not going to happen on a weekday.

You been in a library recently? Places of quiet comtemplation they are not. :greengrin

[archie]

:greengrin

The question mark was a clue.

Thanks for the food for thought!

[cabbageandribs1875]

didn't realise you can turn alerts off on Android phones, or even that Alerts were there in the first place :whistle: i'll decide on the 22nd whether to turn off or not ;)



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FtcCYHhaEAUB-x9?format=jpg&name=large


Android..

Settings
Notifications
Advanced Settings
Wireless Emergency Alerts
Allow Alerts Tab

the tweet i read didn't explain if just turning the Alerts tab to off would stop it, or if switching the Extreme Alerts and/or Severe Alerts would actually turn it off or if they would be overridden

i think i'll probably be curious enough to hear it :)

[TrumpIsAPeado]

If they can override the alert settings on your mobile phone remotely. Just think what they can do with your phone camera.

[Since90+2]

If they can override the alert settings on your mobile phone remotely. Just think what they can do with your phone camera.

I think they can override the sound settings, but I believe there's another setting you can put on that does not alloww any external influence to override it.

[Hibbyradge]

Personally, I'm going to drive to the remotest part of the Pennine Hills that I can find on April 23.

Track me now ya bassas.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Personally, I'm going to drive to the remotest part of the Pennine Hills that I can find on April 23.

Track me now ya bassas.

I'm going to be in a boozer in Oldham, should be amusing. 🍻

[Bristolhibby]

My colleague had this when they were working in Israel.

There was a warning of a Hamas missile attack, take cover.

Pretty scary by all accounts.

Everything was fine BTW.

J

[Hibby Bairn]

If they can override the alert settings on your mobile phone remotely. Just think what they can do with your phone camera.

We're all being monitored 24/7 anyway from those chips they injected into us through the covid vaccine 🙃

[JimBHibees]

Not sure why Glasgow, Aberdeen and Grangemouth would get a pass according to that graphic?

Or Faslane

[Hibrandenburg]

We had a test over here a few months back. Annoying as **** all those who left their phones locked in their office whilst absent but not switched off.

[TrumpIsAPeado]

We're all being monitored 24/7 anyway from those chips they injected into us through the covid vaccine 🙃

Are we still kidding on that mass surveillance isn't a thing?

[Edina Street]

Are we still kidding on that mass surveillance isn't a thing?

George Orwell may have been right about a few things, but the Covid vaccine doesn't contain chips.














Does it? :paranoid:

[TrumpIsAPeado]

George Orwell may have been right about a few things, but the Covid vaccine doesn't contain chips.


Does it? :paranoid:

Nah, it wouldn't need to. By the time the chips become a thing here, it will be sold to people as "convenience" and they'll queue up like lambs to the slaughter. If you don't believe that will happen, you should know that it's already occurring in other countries. Sweden started doing it years ago.

[Stairway 2 7]

Nah, it wouldn't need to. By the time the chips become a thing here, it will be sold to people as "convenience" and they'll queue up like lambs to the slaughter. If you don't believe that will happen, you should know that it's already occurring in other countries. Sweden started doing it years ago.

Put down the phone

[TrumpIsAPeado]

Put down the phone

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/22/658808705/thousands-of-swedes-are-inserting-microchips-under-their-skin#:~:text=In%20Sweden%2C%20a%20country%20rich,t heir%20hands%20against%20digital%20readers.

[Stairway 2 7]

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/22/658808705/thousands-of-swedes-are-inserting-microchips-under-their-skin#:~:text=In%20Sweden%2C%20a%20country%20rich,t heir%20hands%20against%20digital%20readers.

So a few thousand people choosing to have something to mainly open doors ect, excuses millions of heedcases to spoit Facebook news about control and sheepul. At least josh Taylor has the excuse of repeated blows to the head

[TrumpIsAPeado]

So a few thousand people choosing to have something to mainly open doors ect, excuses millions of heedcases to spoit Facebook news about control and sheepul. At least josh Taylor has the excuse of repeated blows to the head

Who cares if it only starts out with a few thousand people? Everything starts off that way until the convenience appears to outweigh the consequences. People spend hours upon hours staring at their iphone and android screens every day looking for their next dopamine fix. It wasn't always that way, it takes hold so gradually that we don't even see it coming. This will be no different.

[Stairway 2 7]

Who cares if it only starts out with a few thousand people? Everything starts off that way until the convenience appears to outweigh the consequences. People spend hours upon hours staring at their iphone and android screens every day looking for their next dopamine fix. It wasn't always that way, it takes hold so gradually that we don't even see it coming. This will be no different.
Quite right pal

[Edina Street]

Who cares if it only starts out with a few thousand people? Everything starts off that way until the convenience appears to outweigh the consequences. People spend hours upon hours staring at their iphone and android screens every day looking for their next dopamine fix. It wasn't always that way, it takes hold so gradually that we don't even see it coming. This will be no different.

Aha, the totalitarian tiptoe:panic:

[Since90+2]

Who cares if it only starts out with a few thousand people? Everything starts off that way until the convenience appears to outweigh the consequences. People spend hours upon hours staring at their iphone and android screens every day looking for their next dopamine fix. It wasn't always that way, it takes hold so gradually that we don't even see it coming. This will be no different.

I do agree with you that we will see more human integration with technology in the next 50 years or so. Whether people see that as a good thing or not is a matter of opinion.

I don't agree with you, and apologies if this is not what you're getting at, that is it all a big nasty plan by the new world order or whatever conspiracy theorists call it.

[Edina Street]

I do agree with you that we will see more human integration with technology in the next 50 years or so. Whether people see that as a good thing or not is a matter of opinion.

I don't agree with you, and apologies if this is not what you're getting at, that is it all a big nasty plan by the new world order or whatever conspiracy theorists call it.

The dead centre's NWO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_world_order_(politics)

The term "new world order" refers to a new period of history evidencing dramatic change in world political thought and the balance of power in international relations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_of_power_in_international_relations). Despite varied interpretations of this term, it is primarily associated with the ideological notion of world governance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_governance) only in the sense of new collective efforts to identify, understand, or address global problems that go beyond the capacity of individual nation-states (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation-states) to solve.

Versus the far left or right's NWO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)

The New World Order (NWO) is a conspiracy theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory) that hypothesizes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothesis) a secretly emerging totalitarian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism) world government (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_government).[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)#cite_note-Camp_1997-3)[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)#cite_note-Berlet_and_Lyons_2000-4)[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)#cite_note-Goldberg_2001-5)[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)#cite_note-Barkun_2003-6)[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)#cite_note-Fenster_2008-7)

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[TrumpIsAPeado]

The dead centre's NWO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_world_order_(politics)


Versus the far left or right's NWO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)


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I would argue that this is simply a difference in wording, with the semantics ultimately being the same.

[Edina Street]

I would argue that this is simply a difference in wording, with the semantics ultimately being the same.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

thank goodness my Bird isn't called Alexa, i've caught the light on my Dot birling round randomly on a few occasions



they're out there, watching, and listening :cb

[marinello59]

Just jumped out of my skin. It works. :greengrin

[The_Exile]

No alert on my phone came through. Either that or I've just gone deaf.

[easty]

Nothing came through on mines, or my girlfriends, either

[LunasBoots]

Came through on the missus phone, switched mine off, wasn't very loud though.

[TrumpIsAPeado]

I just got an image of a pyramid with an eye at the top on my screen. What does it mean?

[Hibs4185]

I’m in france. Nothing on our phones!

[Bridge hibs]

I had mines turned off, my Wife didnt and I **** myself 🫣

[Edina Street]

I've received nothing.

[Ozyhibby]

I've received nothing.

Not enough room in the shelters for everybody. You haven’t been selected obviously. [emoji6]


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[Edina Street]

I just got an image of a pyramid with an eye at the top on my screen. What does it mean?

It is either the all-seeing-eye of Lucifer, or the Eye of Providence.

Take your pick.

[danhibees1875]

No alert here... :dunno:

[TrumpIsAPeado]

No alert here... :dunno:

The message said "WARNING: Imminent meteor strike. You have been selected for our shelter."

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

I wonder if it was better to get the message, or not???

[Billy Whizz]

I put my phone on airplane mode for 20 mins
When I switched it back on at 3.20 it went off

[Wilson]

Nothing.

[Mibbes Aye]

Anyone know how to personalise it in Settings? I was looking to have it as Chimes.

Maybe one for the Technical Help forum, admins feel free to move.

[marinello59]

Anyone know how to personalise it in Settings? I was looking to have it as Chimes.

Maybe one for the Technical Help forum, admins feel free to move.

I’d love to know as well. I’d want Frazer from Dads Army saying ‘We’re doomed.’

[Mibbes Aye]

I’d love to know as well. I’d want Frazer from Dads Army saying ‘We’re doomed.’

:greengrin

If we can use downloads then I want the sound, followed by “This Is The Voice Of The Mysterons!”

[stu in nottingham]

Nothing on my phone, turned my work phone on and nothing on that either.

Not to worry as I have already built a makeshift bomb shelter out of old Amazon boxes at the bottom of the garden,

[grunt]

Nothing on my phone, turned my work phone on and nothing on that either.

Not to worry as I have already built a makeshift bomb shelter out of old Amazon boxes at the bottom of the garden,But you won't know when to go there ...

[hibsbollah]

Ah shat masel’.

That’s about it.

[stu in nottingham]

But you won't know when to go there ...

Nor will many others by all accounts.

[Just Alf]

In pub, heard it all around.. then again for a few minutes after (different phones)... guess its down to how good a connection your phone has to the mast?

(Pub's a bit of a concrete bunker so signal always been patchy)


Edit.. on reflection this is maybe a GOOD place to get this sort of message!

[Moulin Yarns]

I had switch off the emergency alert on my phone but was listening to Sportsound so heard every phone in the studio 😂

[danhibees1875]

The message said "WARNING: Imminent meteor strike. You have been selected for our shelter."

Sounds like a ploy to round up the riff raff in one shelter and lock the door behind them. :wink:

[nonshinyfinish]

Seems a lot of people on Three (including me) didn't get it: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/apr/23/uk-emergency-alert-test-three-looking-into-why-users-failed-to-get-text

[Jack]

Quiet as a mouse for me but probably just enough to set off the DNA altering mini bots injected with my covid jags and boosters.

[Glory Lurker]

Mine had an American accent.

[archie]

Mine had an American accent.

Mine too.

[EH6 Hibby]

Mines cane through at 15.01. I work nightshift so it woke me up. Forgot to switch it off.

[Kato]

I for one welcome our new emergency alert dispensing overlords.

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[Ozyhibby]

I was really surprised to read today that the contract for this service had went to Rishi’s wife’s family business.


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