Summer Transfer Window

[Tyler Durden]

Livingston needed Fitzwater for their own team so wouldn't have wanted to sell in January.

That’s the simplistic version but the point is that Hibs didn’t go after him to any extent. If we want the player then we should have done everything possible to sign him in January.

I’m not convinced we’re interested anyway but if we are then it’s another example of poor planning/execution IMO

[SickBoy32]

Livingston probably didn't want to do business in January. Same reason we shouldn't have sold Porteous for 200k.

We really shouldn't have sold Porteous for whatever crumbs we received - dreadful decision which is now biting us big time, both last week and this week with our lack of defensive options

[Heisenberg]

We really shouldn't have sold Porteous for whatever crumbs we received - dreadful decision which is now biting us big time, both last week and this week with our lack of defensive options

It was so clear that one injury was going to leave us short. LJ moaning about having to play two young central defenders is a bit silly when that was entirely avoidable with better recruitment in January.

[Scotty Leither]

Hibs hospitality is a revenue stream that brings in much more cash than it previously did but not amounts such that great players can suddenly be signed at will on lucrative contracts.


But it generated enough revenue to give our CEO a reported bonus taking his total package up to £300k, but none spare for proven players?

[SickBoy32]

But it generated enough revenue to give our CEO a reported bonus taking his total package up to £300k, but none spare for proven players?

A crazy bonus if true, he's a CEO (a very ***** one at that) so his remit is far wider than just commercial improvements - any performance related bonuses in his contract should align with success on the park imo

[Hibiza]

Guess we’ll need to agree to disagree…

Jeggo would have been as cheap as they come, and short term loans are by and large fill-ins of which we’ve had a glut of these past few windows.

The club, playing staff, and recruitment team need filleted (again), but I suspect that’ll only come through new ownership, because if any of the Gordon sons were going to step into their old man’s shoes they’d have done so by now.

Until either of these scenarios plays out we’ll be stuck with a dull, safe Board only sanctioning the signing of dull, safe (cheap) sub-standard players.
100%

[Donegal Hibby]

100% yes.
As of now the two players we are linked with are Fitzwater and Williams . Fitzwater I've never actually noticed and Williams is at the same club Mckirdy came from . Maybe there's nothing in both rumours though if they are true I'd not be to excited about either to be honest.

[Tambo]

Is anyone else concerned that we are rumoured to be signing players with no DOF in and probably the same recruitment that's been getting things wrong ?

The DOF has gone quiet but I think that was to be expected with Ron sadly passing away and transfer rumours are just part of the game so will probably be more links in the upcoming weeks.

[PHeffernan]

But it generated enough revenue to give our CEO a reported bonus taking his total package up to £300k, but none spare for proven players?

If you want to get into the direction of travel of the club.
Bottom line is it's a result of our supporters falling asleep when they had the chance to buy a big share of the football club which allowed it to be bought and owned by an individual who thought a small town moneyball transfer approach was the way to go to make money.
No point in complaining now. A case of, you snooze you lose.
I reckon it will take us another 3 more transfer windows to put right.

How much was the Kensall bonus and which fantastic player do you think we could have signed and payed wages for with it?

Saying all that I don't know why we need a £300k a year CEO especially now that the new revenue streams are in place and we are looking to bring in a DOF.
Very expensive to employ both. Maybe we should go for a £150k a year CEO and a £200k DOF which would keep us close to the current suit spend.

[Brightside]

As of now the two players we are linked with are Fitzwater and Williams . Fitzwater I've never actually noticed and Williams is at the same club Mckirdy came from . Maybe there's nothing in both rumours though if they are true I'd not be to excited about either to be honest.

I think Williams is done.

[PHeffernan]

I think Williams is done.

I think your right.
Lovely guy.
Unsure whether his football style will suit Hibs.
A good age.

[Bridge hibs]

I think your right.

Seems to have good experience, looking forward to seeing him next season

[eastterrace]

Curious what makes you think we'll improve ?

The club will likely look to sell Nisbet in the summer, at that point we've got Boyle as our only source of real quality.

Then it's over to the recruitment team - of which it's hard to have any faith in, when you look at the last 3/4 windows

DoF I can't see working out, purely as Kensell has shown he lacks the nous to effectively recruit (maybe I'm being overly pessimistic, but I don't think so unfortunately)

Bleak outlook IMO, and I certainly don't expect any big improvements - and i say that as someone who has renewed my ST
Yeh I’m with you on this one as can see us fighting near bottom of the table ( hope I’m wide of the mark on this) next season.

[Unseen work]

https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1646887449761656832?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

Arsenal and Tottenham looking at Nathan Wood…

[PHeffernan]

That’s the simplistic version but the point is that Hibs didn’t go after him to any extent. If we want the player then we should have done everything possible to sign him in January.

I’m not convinced we’re interested anyway but if we are then it’s another example of poor planning/execution IMO

Not at all. If Hibs want him they want him for free.

[SHODAN]

https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1646887449761656832?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

Arsenal and Tottenham looking at Nathan Wood…

We have a worrying track record of poor loan signings that end up excelling once they go back down south.

[500miles]

Fitzwater was getting a lot of attention last summer. 25 is a good age to pick up a centre half.

Concerned about Williams. League 2 at his peak age isn't a good sign.

[500miles]

We have a worrying track record of poor loan signings that end up excelling once they go back down south.

I genuinely believe they think it'll be a stroll up here and struggle to hit the ground running.

[Tyler Durden]

Not at all. If Hibs want him they want him for free.

Which would be poor management. Get him in January for whatever we received for Porteous (which would likely have been enough) and we’re in a far stronger position to push for 3rd place and a £5m jackpot.

Get him for free 6 months later when it’s too late. The ship has sailed.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Fitzwater was getting a lot of attention last summer. 25 is a good age to pick up a centre half.

Concerned about Williams. League 2 at his peak age isn't a good sign.

Agree about Williams. I know nothing about him but something just screams disaster shout signing a 30 year old who’s dropped down the leagues to League Two which is an abysmal standard.

[PHeffernan]

Curious what makes you think we'll improve ?
It will be a small subtle improvement which will probably see us finish 5th.
No getting away from us still having an existing playing squad that will still be young and developing.

The club will likely look to sell Nisbet in the summer, at that point we've got Boyle as our only source of real quality.
Agreed Nisbet has to be sold in the summer and the the option to buy taken on Youan.
Boyle has barely played this season so will be like a new player.

Then it's over to the recruitment team - of which it's hard to have any faith in, when you look at the last 3/4 windows
The recruitment team player focus has changed from moneyball to 'for now starters'. A far easier approach to get right at our level.

DoF I can't see working out, purely as Kensell has shown he lacks the nous to effectively recruit (maybe I'm being overly pessimistic, but I don't think so unfortunately)
My impression is that the intention to appoint a DOF was announced to help stem the vitriol of supporters towards a very ill owner.
I don't see the sense in paying £750k a year for Kensall, Kean and a DOF. Three big hitters for a relatively small football club in addition to the newly appointed Chairman. I wouldn't be surprised if it was announced that the club is for sale which would put the DOF appointment on the back burner.

Bleak outlook IMO, and I certainly don't expect any big improvements - and i say that as someone who has renewed my ST
I've replied to your post points in bold above. I might be right and I might be a meringue.
I don't see there being any massive improvement next season either but it need not be bleak. Nisbet is the last of the must sell before his contracts up players, so the only way is up.
Hopefully Boyle and Magennis can stay fit and some young players can break through as Campbell, Bushiri and Youan have this season.

[Tambo]

I think the club will do what they can to get Youan on a permanent deal and IF Nisbet was to get sold then I wouldn't be against trying to bring Myko back.

Fish and CJ on permanent deals is probably out our range financially but I wouldn't be against another loan deal for them.

[Unseen work]

It just shows how funny foootball is.

Earlier in the season Hibs were receiving criticism for their recruitment, lack of DOF etc whilst Hearts were receiving all sorts of praise.

Fast forward to today.

Hearts fans slating the much praised Joe Savage and think he’s hopeless. Saying the recruitment of Hill, Snodgrass, Kuol, Kio, Oda and Forrest is poor and want them moved on, with Snodgrass having already left.

Hibs fans are now thinking recruitment all of a sudden isn’t that bad - Marshall, Fish, CJ, Boyle, Kuharevych, Youan.

Many people would have let you think the gap was massive and the clubs miles apart, yesterday we’ve showed it is not the case.

2 points behind them with it all to play for.

Get top 6, finish above them in fourth place and let’s really kick on.

Mon the Hibees.

[Unseen work]

I think the club will do what they can to get Youan on a permanent deal and IF Nisbet was to get sold then I wouldn't be against trying to bring Myko back.

Fish and CJ on permanent deals is probably out our range financially but I wouldn't be against another loan deal for them.

I think we’ll get Fish and Youan permanent.

Best we can hope for with CJ is another loan but I can see Burnley wanting him to go to the championship for a loan, unless they think potential of Europe and the amount he plays is better but I can’t see it.

[sleeping giant]

I think Williams is done.

Deal done or career done?

[Hibbyradge]

Deal done or career done?

Deal

[Since452]

It just shows how funny foootball is.

Earlier in the season Hibs were receiving criticism for their recruitment, lack of DOF etc whilst Hearts were receiving all sorts of praise.

Fast forward to today.

Hearts fans slating the much praised Joe Savage and think he’s hopeless. Saying the recruitment of Hill, Snodgrass, Kuol, Kio, Oda and Forrest is poor and want them moved on, with Snodgrass having already left.

Hibs fans are now thinking recruitment all of a sudden isn’t that bad - Marshall, Fish, CJ, Boyle, Kuharevych, Youan.

Many people would have let you think the gap was massive and the clubs miles apart, yesterday we’ve showed it is not the case.

2 points behind them with it all to play for.

Get top 6, finish above them in fourth place and let’s really kick on.

Mon the Hibees.

Yup. A director of football or whatever you want to call it isn't the be all and end all. Has the word cup wonderkid from Newcastle even played for them yet?

[Stevie Reid]

It just shows how funny foootball is.

Earlier in the season Hibs were receiving criticism for their recruitment, lack of DOF etc whilst Hearts were receiving all sorts of praise.

Fast forward to today.

Hearts fans slating the much praised Joe Savage and think he’s hopeless. Saying the recruitment of Hill, Snodgrass, Kuol, Kio, Oda and Forrest is poor and want them moved on, with Snodgrass having already left.

Hibs fans are now thinking recruitment all of a sudden isn’t that bad - Marshall, Fish, CJ, Boyle, Kuharevych, Youan.

Many people would have let you think the gap was massive and the clubs miles apart, yesterday we’ve showed it is not the case.

2 points behind them with it all to play for.

Get top 6, finish above them in fourth place and let’s really kick on.

Mon the Hibees.

The huge frustration for this season will forever be the amount of games that our quality forward players have missed. Earlier in the season we created a lot of chances and weren’t clinical enough - Nisbet has barely missed a chance since he came back.

If we’d had Boyle on one side and Youan on the other (once the latter had got up to speed) we’d be tearing teams apart regularly. McGeady off the bench would have been an excellent option - and big Myk showed once again yesterday that he is the ideal forward for the SPL: big, powerful, can hold play up and bring others in, and chip in with his share of goals.

I know every team has injuries but for us to have so many in one area of the park is extremely unfortunate. Hearts have had a fair amount of injuries too (as we are forever reminded), and Boyce has missed nearly all season, but I think Shankland has only missed a couple through injury?

Aberdeen seem to have got away without any real problems this year, unless I am mistaken. Miovski and Duk have been excellent signings, and seem to have played every week.

[Paulie Walnuts]

It just shows how funny foootball is.

Earlier in the season Hibs were receiving criticism for their recruitment, lack of DOF etc whilst Hearts were receiving all sorts of praise.

Fast forward to today.

Hearts fans slating the much praised Joe Savage and think he’s hopeless. Saying the recruitment of Hill, Snodgrass, Kuol, Kio, Oda and Forrest is poor and want them moved on, with Snodgrass having already left.

Hibs fans are now thinking recruitment all of a sudden isn’t that bad - Marshall, Fish, CJ, Boyle, Kuharevych, Youan.

Many people would have let you think the gap was massive and the clubs miles apart, yesterday we’ve showed it is not the case.

2 points behind them with it all to play for.

Get top 6, finish above them in fourth place and let’s really kick on.

Mon the Hibees.

To be fair I’m not sure any Hibs fans opinions on players really would have changed yesterday.

I thought Egan Riley wasn’t great first half. Jeggo decent but no more and Marshall had nothing to do.

Youan, Fish and Myko I’ve rated anyway.

[04Sauzee]

I think we’ll get Fish and Youan permanent.

Best we can hope for with CJ is another loan but I can see Burnley wanting him to go to the championship for a loan, unless they think potential of Europe and the amount he plays is better but I can’t see it.
Can't see Hibs getting Fish unfortunately, unless it's for a very small fee with Man Utd holding a huge sell on %, even then I reckon he'd be championship bound.

[percy veer]

Can't see Hibs getting Fish unfortunately, unless it's for a very small fee with Man Utd holding a huge sell on %, even then I reckon he'd be championship bound.

Not sure utd would be that bothered about a sell on realistically how much would we sell him for if that came about 3 million tops

[Unseen work]

Hearts supposedly have signed Nicky Devlin on a pre contract.

Great news for Youan as he Devlin is terrified of him.

[Leith Green]

Hearts supposedly have signed Nicky Devlin on a pre contract.

Great news for Youan as he Devlin is terrified of him.

Would that be michael smith’s replacement?

[Unseen work]

Would that be michael smith’s replacement?

Would imagine so mate, Atkinson doesn’t tend to get much of a look in either.

[JamesHFC]

Would imagine so mate, Atkinson doesn’t tend to get much of a look in either.

He was one of the players who fell out with Neilson.

[Leith Green]

Would imagine so mate, Atkinson doesn’t tend to get much of a look in either.

Not really an improvement imo, that smith is decent for them but getting ancient 😂

[Smartie]

To be fair I’m not sure any Hibs fans opinions on players really would have changed yesterday.

I thought Egan Riley wasn’t great first half. Jeggo decent but no more and Marshall had nothing to do.

Youan, Fish and Myko I’ve rated anyway.

I think more of Nisbet for yesterday.

He was due a good performance in a derby and he was excellent.

The central striker role can be a difficult one and a frustrating one in the derby - service often isn't great, got defenders all over you and chances don't exactly come thick and fast. Nisbet started the game well, never looked in danger of letting his head go down, his support play was excellent and he took his chance when it came along.


The rest of the players - we know they can be very good on their day, we know they can be very poor on others but it was great for it all to come together against them. It was also good to see Joe Newell play a prominent role in a derby win - he's played well against them a few times and not got the rewards. "The Joe Newell derby" was mooted prior to the game, and he took the game by the scruff of the neck to the extent that it's not at all unreasonable that game forever be known as that.

[Leith Green]

He was one of the players who fell out with Neilson.


Who else fell out with him?

[JamesHFC]

Not really an improvement imo, that smith is decent for them but getting ancient 😂

Was actually a bit disappointed that it was him going off. Felt that Youan’s pace and skill would have ruined him, in some way I guess it did.

[JamesHFC]

Who else fell out with him?

There were issues with Cochrane, Ginnelly & even Shankland apparently.

[Leith Green]

Aye , his legs will be starting to struggle with pacey opponents as his age becomes a problem.. Not saw a lot of devlin to be honestly.. is he quick? Attack minded or more rigid?

[Leith Green]

There were issues with Cochrane, Ginnelly & even Shankland apparently.

Hopefully split in the dressing room for any new manager to have on their plate 😁

[JimBHibees]

He was awful against us. Ive been saying it for ages. Just go and buy Mayo.

Is Mayo that good? Always thought Joe Wright was better. Always been pretty impressed with Fitzwater

[JimBHibees]

Aye , his legs will be starting to struggle with pacey opponents as his age becomes a problem.. Not saw a lot of devlin to be honestly.. is he quick? Attack minded or more rigid?

Devlin good going forward not so great defensively. Youan has kind of tortured him this season

[eastmainsmsh]

Big Van Veen would be decent 👌

[7Hero]

Deal done or career done?

Deal is defo done.

[Unseen work]

Big Van Veen would be decent 👌

Would be a no brainer if he wanted to come.

Big, physical and really good on the ball. Can score all types of goals with both feet and his head.

Nisbet youd think is 100% away so getting someone like him in for free would be great business

[CapitalGreen]

Would be a no brainer if he wanted to come.

Big, physical and really good on the ball. Can score all types of goals with both feet and his head.

Nisbet youd think is 100% away so getting someone like him in for free would be great business

Why would he be free?

[Donegal Hibby]

Would be a no brainer if he wanted to come.

Big, physical and really good on the ball. Can score all types of goals with both feet and his head.

Nisbet youd think is 100% away so getting someone like him in for free would be great business
Probably in the minority here though if we lost Nisbet ( which I think we will ) and replaced him with Van Veen who's coming 32 I'd be seriously disappointed as I think that would be a massive step down in quality imo.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Would be a no brainer if he wanted to come.

Big, physical and really good on the ball. Can score all types of goals with both feet and his head.

Nisbet youd think is 100% away so getting someone like him in for free would be great business

He’s actually got a surprisingly decent scoring record with 1 in 3 through his whole career.

At 32 though I wouldn’t want to count on him as our main striker. Need to be looking for better imo, he’d be a decent back up though.

[Hibbyradge]

Probably in the minority here though if we lost Nisbet ( which I think we will ) and replaced him with Van Veen who's coming 32 I'd be seriously disappointed as I think that would be a massive step down in quality imo.

We're never going to replace Nisbet's quality.

[Unseen work]

Why would he be free?

He’s out of contract this summer

[Donegal Hibby]

We're never going to replace Nisbet's quality.
While Van Veen has a very good goal scoring record and is a big physical striker who puts himself about I do think if we got a fair price for Nisbet and if we use some of the money wisely we could get a better quality of a striker than van Veen , I do agree though we won't replace Nisbet's quality though 👍

[Unseen work]

Probably in the minority here though if we lost Nisbet ( which I think we will ) and replaced him with Van Veen who's coming 32 I'd be seriously disappointed as I think that would be a massive step down in quality imo.

Don’t think it’s necessarily a replacement.

But we’ll need a couple of strikers with Nisbet and Myko leaving, having Van Veen as one of them would be a very good option imo.

[CockneyRebel]

We're never going to replace Nisbet's quality.

In terms of a straight purchase I reckon you're right. We would have to take yet another punt on a young player showing promise or get some luck with an academy youngster (or two). Apart from his injury Nisbet has been mostly a huge success but our recruitment since Ron came in has shown how risky taking a punt can be, especially if it's multiple punts. A lot of our opponents get their goals through a spread of players rather than a main man as superstars are hard to hold onto. One sniff of interest and their agents chase the ££s.

[Smartie]

In terms of a straight purchase I reckon you're right. We would have to take yet another punt on a young player showing promise or get some luck with an academy youngster (or two). Apart from his injury Nisbet has been mostly a huge success but our recruitment since Ron came in has shown how risky taking a punt can be, especially if it's multiple punts. A lot of our opponents get their goals through a spread of players rather than a main man as superstars are hard to hold onto. One sniff of interest and their agents chase the ££s.

Our injuries have affected the spread of goals this season.

I'd expect a fit Boyle, Magennis or McGeady to get a few over the course of a season (even if serious questions can be asked about how often Magennis or McGeady will ever be fit).

Youan has it in him to get a few, as does Campbell.

[Donegal Hibby]

Don’t think it’s necessarily a replacement.

But we’ll need a couple of strikers with Nisbet and Myko leaving, having Van Veen as one of them would be a very good option imo.
Replacing Nisbet we must do better imo though as another option van Veen wouldn't be bad in fairness even at 32

[Unseen work]

Replacing Nisbet we must do better imo though as another option van Veen wouldn't be bad in fairness even at 32

Fair enough, I just think 19 league goals this season in 32 and even his 9 in 32 last season is good enough, along with his other all round play for us to sign him.

It’s not exciting but I think with him you know exactly what you’re getting. He’d also bring a good bit of experience and has a swagger about him, could he really good for him having him partnering someone else, even a younger striker like Melkersen (if he’s still here)

[CapitalGreen]

He’s out of contract this summer

No he isn’t, he’s contracted until summer 2024.

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[CentreForward]

Can see Van Veen ending up at the PBS. He’s their sort of player.

[weecounty hibby]

Why does everyone think Kevin will leave in the summer? I'm still hopefully he will sign an extension with buyout clauses in it. He is a class act and showed at the weekend that between him and the heid there is no comparison!!

[SHODAN]

Why does everyone think Kevin will leave in the summer? I'm still hopefully he will sign an extension with buyout clauses in it. He is a class act and showed at the weekend that between him and the heid there is no comparison!!

He's been after a move down south for a while now.

[Hibbyradge]

Why does everyone think Kevin will leave in the summer? I'm still hopefully he will sign an extension with buyout clauses in it. He is a class act and showed at the weekend that between him and the heid there is no comparison!!

He wants away and Hibs won't want his value to drop.

[Billy Whizz]

He wants away and Hibs won't want his value to drop.

Only got a year left after the summer, and we can’t afford another situation like Porteous going into his last 6 months
Kevin has to be careful where he goes though. Needs to be playing every week to get back in, and stay in the National Squad

[bingo70]

Only got a year left after the summer, and we can’t afford another situation like Porteous going into his last 6 months
Kevin has to be careful where he goes though. Needs to be playing every week to get back in, and stay in the National Squad

IMO he would be a perfect fit for Rangers and I was surprised they never went for him on January. Far better option for them than Morelos IMO.

[Since452]

IMO he would be a perfect fit for Rangers and I was surprised they never went for him on January. Far better option for them than Morelos IMO.

Beale was saying in January there is a Scottish striker that he wants but he is under contract and wasn't going to name names. Was convinced he was referring to Nisbet. Watch this space in the summer.

[Billy Whizz]

IMO he would be a perfect fit for Rangers and I was surprised they never went for him on January. Far better option for them than Morelos IMO.

I’d rather he went down south than play against us. They’ll unsettle him and then offer us buttons

[GreenPJ]

I think we could do worse than look at Bruce Anderson. If we kept Nisbet I think he would be a great foil. Good engine, runs in behind.

[JohnM1875]

IMO he would be a perfect fit for Rangers and I was surprised they never went for him on January. Far better option for them than Morelos IMO.

Not sure they could afford him, or more likely won't be willing to pay the kind of money we want to another Scottish team. Even if he is in the last year we'll be holding out for a decent fee I reckon.

Be plenty championship teams looking at him if he keeps the form up for the next six games.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

IMO he would be a perfect fit for Rangers and I was surprised they never went for him on January. Far better option for them than Morelos IMO.

He won’t go to Rangers, they had scouts watching him at Dunfermline but weren’t interested because he’s not good enough on the ball. I don’t think his ability on the ball has improved to such an extent that they’d be interested now, imo. My source for this is a Rangers scout I used to coach with, btw.


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[Hibbyradge]

Only got a year left after the summer, and we can’t afford another situation like Porteous going into his last 6 months
Kevin has to be careful where he goes though. Needs to be playing every week to get back in, and stay in the National Squad

I agree with both points.

I guess he could sign an extension, but that's highly unlikely.

[leith lynx]

Said it before but Ryan Hardie at Plymouth would be a decent replacement.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Said it before but Ryan Hardie at Plymouth would be a decent replacement.

I’d take him too, surely his wages at Plymouth would be a lot lower than we can offer?


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[patlowe]

He won’t go to Rangers, they had scouts watching him at Dunfermline but weren’t interested because he’s not good enough on the ball. I don’t think his ability on the ball has improved to such an extent that they’d be interested now, imo. My source for this is a Rangers scout I used to coach with, btw.


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Quite an odd position for them to take when he's better on the ball (considerably IMO) than both Morelos and Colak, good goal scorers that they are.

[Billy Whizz]

I’d take him too, surely his wages at Plymouth would be a lot lower than we can offer?


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They’ll be in the championship next season, we struggle to compete with Championship teams wages

[Bridge hibs]

Quite an odd position for them to take when he's better on the ball (considerably IMO) than both Morelos and Colak, good goal scorers that they are.

Very odd, considering they signed Boyd and Lafferty at some point too

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Quite an odd position for them to take when he's better on the ball (considerably IMO) than both Morelos and Colak, good goal scorers that they are.

He’s not, both offer much better hold up play than Nisbet (although he’s definitely improved that part of his game in recent weeks). Wouldn’t think they’d be interested however this was during Gerrards time at them so maybe what they’re looking for in a striker has changed?


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[Donegal Hibby]

Signing Youan up must be a priority I think , get him and Boyle back even a half decent striker should score goals playing with them two you'd imagine :greengrin

[patlowe]

He’s not, both offer much better hold up play than Nisbet (although he’s definitely improved that part of his game in recent weeks). Wouldn’t think they’d be interested however this was during Gerrards time at them so maybe what they’re looking for in a striker has changed?


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Hmm, well that's a different question but even so I'd say he's as good at holding it up as Colak. Morelos is a different kettle of fish and his strength and aggression when on form make him a very tricky customer. Just making the point that I'd be surprised if it was Nisbet's ability on the ball that was stopping them going for him, though it may well be true. Personally I think he's technically very good and it would be more a lack of aggression and pace that would hold him back from the top. Having said that, he's clearly come back from injury a more powerful boy.

[JimBHibees]

I’d take him too, surely his wages at Plymouth would be a lot lower than we can offer?


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Top of league one would be higher than we offer

[Since452]

Been said before but we have been so unlucky not having Nisbet, Youan, Boyle and McGeady all available at the same time. Unlikely to ever see it now.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Gilfy Sigurdsson could be needing someone to take a chance on him.. :duck:

[Hibernian Verse]

Gilfy Sigurdsson could be needing someone to take a chance on him.. :duck:

Clyde

[Dazzjw1875]

Hearing/ saw it mentioned Jack Fitzwater has signed a PCA with us??

[Tambo]

India would be a step down for Cummings but 10k a week might tempt him.

[Unseen work]

No he isn’t, he’s contracted until summer 2024.

26669

Apologies, you’re right!

[Unseen work]

Hearing/ saw it mentioned Jack Fitzwater has signed a PCA with us??

Si Ferry from the Open Goal podcast was the one that said it on last weeks episode. Not saw it elsewhere but with how close the Open Goal lot are to Martindale and Devlin it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s accurate.

He also said during an episode in January we were interested in Bosun Lawal from Celtic.

[04Sauzee]

Si Ferry from the Open Goal podcast was the one that said it on last weeks episode. Not saw it elsewhere but with how close the Open Goal lot are to Martindale and Devlin it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s accurate.

He also said during an episode in January we were interested in Bosun Lawal from Celtic.

Haven't heard of Bosun Lawal, would be be first team for Hibs do you think? Assuming he's just a young lad?

[Unseen work]

Haven't heard of Bosun Lawal, would be be first team for Hibs do you think? Assuming he's just a young lad?

Yeah just a young lad, thought he was quite highly rated but I know virtually nothing about him.

I remember being surprised at the time as we already had Rocky, Fish, McLellend and Blaney who is highly rated and after Porteous leaving was expecting a more experienced defender

[ehf]

Haven't heard of Bosun Lawal, would be be first team for Hibs do you think? Assuming he's just a young lad?

He’s got quite a bit in his locker.

[Tambo]

A few reports linking Nisbet to a few English clubs today which is expected.

[Greencore]

A few reports linking Nisbet to a few English clubs today which is expected.

Have a feeling we will want to cash in this summer and avoid another Porto deal.

[Hibbyradge]

Have a feeling we will want to cash in this summer and avoid another Porto deal.

No question about that.

We might offer an extension on better terms, but I'm certain that he'll want to go.

Fair enough, a significant wedge for us with a healthy sell on agreement and it's good business.

[Gmack7]

A few reports linking Nisbet to a few English clubs today which is expected.

Which clubs?

[Gloucester Hibs]

Which clubs?

Sheffield United, Blackburn Rovers, Middlesborough and Preston

[The Sundance Kid]

Which clubs?

Blackburn, Middlesbrough, Preston, Sheffield United and Wigan mentioned as having sent scouts to watch him at the weekend in the Daily Mail

[Donegal Hibby]

Blackburn, Middlesbrough, Preston, Sheffield United and Wigan mentioned as having sent scouts to watch him at the weekend in the Daily Mail
I'd guess that if the first four you mentioned are interested Wigan won't have a hope in hell of getting him . What would we be looking to get for him btw ?

[Scooter]

I'd guess that if the first four you mentioned are interested Wigan won't have a hope in hell of getting him . What would we be looking to get for him btw ?

I'd say in the region of 2m plus ads ons. Only my opinion, he's worth sp much more but with a year left...

[Just_Jimmy]

I'd say in the region of 2m plus ads ons. Only my opinion, he's worth sp much more but with a year left...Offer a new 4 year deal on improved terms which protects us and him. With the agreement if we get 2m up front and he fancies it, he can go. Then we just have to sort a sell on percentage.

We won't, he won't. We'll sell for whatever we can get and he'll want to go.

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[Donegal Hibby]

I'd say in the region of 2m plus ads ons. Only my opinion, he's worth sp much more but with a year left...
Probably right there , around £ 2.5m or something like that plus add ons . Think Dunfermline have a percentage of any transfer to get as well .

[Hibbyradge]

Probably right there , around £ 2.5m or something like that plus add ons . Think Dunfermline have a percentage of any transfer to get as well .

He's a striker who is capped for his country. I think we'll get more than you think, particularly if Sheffield United are genuinely interested.

[WeeRussell]

He's a striker who is capped for his country. I think we'll get more than you think, particularly if Sheffield United are genuinely interested.

… they did pay 17.5m for Oli Mc****ingBurnie right enough.

[H18S NX]

He’s got quite a bit in his locker....Ha Ha,I see what you did there:aok:

[Gmack7]

Sheffield United, Blackburn Rovers, Middlesborough and Preston

Thanks, did boro not pay 1 or 2 million for uche? Surely we can get them to cough up a lot more, Sheffield United would also be a good move

[BigKev]

Sheffield United are under a transfer embargo for non payment to clubs. They might get promoted and settle their debts but the Nisbet ship will have sailed by then. He’ll go Championship level and have to prove himself ala McGinn before getting a chance in the EPL imo.

[Lago]

Sheffield United are under a transfer embargo for non payment to clubs. They might get promoted and settle their debts but the Nisbet ship will have sailed by then. He’ll go Championship level and have to prove himself ala McGinn before getting a chance in the EPL imo.
I think he'll be quite happy to do that and like McGinn end up in the EPL.

[JamesHFC]

Would be a massive surprise if Nisbet is here next season. I hope that we can hold onto him for the European qualifiers though if we do qualify.

[Kaiser_Sauzee]

Si Ferry from the Open Goal podcast was the one that said it on last weeks episode. Not saw it elsewhere but with how close the Open Goal lot are to Martindale and Devlin it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s accurate.

He also said during an episode in January we were interested in Bosun Lawal from Celtic.

Watched Lawal play for Celtic B against my local team Bo'ness United. He was an absolute standout. Big and powerful. Good on the ball.

[Trinity Hibee]

… they did pay 17.5m for Oli Mc****ingBurnie right enough.

Mind blowing they paid that for him. We should be looking for minimum 3m for Nisbet. He’s a goal scorer which should keep his price high.

[Donegal Hibby]

He's a striker who is capped for his country. I think we'll get more than you think, particularly if Sheffield United are genuinely interested.
Hopefully D . Another club could enter the race for him .
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/23463751.galatasaray-enter-kevin-nisbet-race-amid-championship-interest/

[Scotty Leither]

Genuine interest from England would certainly rule out the tribute act from Govan wasting our time with any lowball bids, you would expect.

[Since452]

Mind blowing they paid that for him. We should be looking for minimum 3m for Nisbet. He’s a goal scorer which should keep his price high.

Yeah minimum 3 million. Would be disappointed with anything less.

[Unseen work]

As much as I want 3 million for Nisbet I just struggle seeing it with a year left on his contract and the fact I feel like despite football having more money than ever the amount we get for our best players hasn’t changed much in the last 15 years. That said, his goal ratio, who he’s scored against and the all round buzz may help - especially with numerous teams being interested and hopefully get a bidding war.

[Unseen work]

Whilst our recruitment had been knocked alot of late I actually don’t want them to completely go away from I know gems/youth players from abroad.

Aberdeen signed Duk and we signed Tavares from the same club, with the latter actually having the better reputation. Unfortunately Tavares doesn’t look like he’ll work out for us.

But Duk is arguably one of the best players in the league and will go for over 10x what Aberdeen bought him for.

We’re clearly looking in the right places and it’s one of the best ways to build and improve the club - but it must be done with some solid, experienced players and players you know what you’re getting.

If Aberdeen get 4-6 million for Duk that is massive. Add that in to the money they got for Ramsay, McKenna, Ferguson and Cosgrove over recent years and that’s massive amounts of money.

[Tambo]

Maybe undervalued but I think 3 mil with some add ons is a reasonable price.

Can't see anything crazy for his fee.

[Eyrie]

Whilst our recruitment had been knocked alot of late I actually don’t want them to completely go away from I know gems/youth players from abroad.

Aberdeen signed Duk and we signed Tavares from the same club, with the latter actually having the better reputation. Unfortunately Tavares doesn’t look like he’ll work out for us.

But Duk is arguably one of the best players in the league and will go for over 10x what Aberdeen bought him for.

We’re clearly looking in the right places and it’s one of the best ways to build and improve the club - but it must be done with some solid, experienced players and players you know what you’re getting.

If Aberdeen get 4-6 million for Duk that is massive. Add that in to the money they got for Ramsay, McKenna, Ferguson and Cosgrove over recent years and that’s massive amounts of money.

I think there is a 50% sell on clause so Aberdeen would only keep half the fee which is still good business.

Meanwhile, they are no closer to having a new stadium.

[Callum_62]

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[Tyler Durden]

Whilst our recruitment had been knocked alot of late I actually don’t want them to completely go away from I know gems/youth players from abroad.

Aberdeen signed Duk and we signed Tavares from the same club, with the latter actually having the better reputation. Unfortunately Tavares doesn’t look like he’ll work out for us.

But Duk is arguably one of the best players in the league and will go for over 10x what Aberdeen bought him for.

We’re clearly looking in the right places and it’s one of the best ways to build and improve the club - but it must be done with some solid, experienced players and players you know what you’re getting.

If Aberdeen get 4-6 million for Duk that is massive. Add that in to the money they got for Ramsay, McKenna, Ferguson and Cosgrove over recent years and that’s massive amounts of money.

Good player but I don’t see them getting £4m+ for him

[Unseen work]

Hearts interested in Lyall Cameron.

20 year old midfielder who has 12 goals this season in the championship.

We always seem to be interested in similar player and with his age/stats it would be interesting to see if we’re keeping tabs on him too.

[Callum_62]

Hearts interested in Lyall Cameron.

20 year old midfielder who has 12 goals this season in the championship.

We always seem to be interested in similar player and with his age/stats it would be interesting to see if we’re keeping tabs on him too.That's Scottish Championship at Dundee btw!

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[Smartie]

I think there is a 50% sell on clause so Aberdeen would only keep half the fee which is still good business.

Meanwhile, they are no closer to having a new stadium.

I think we can be too quick to forget that having good players who score goals is quite a big part of why football clubs exist, even if it is nice to sell players for big sums of money from time to time.

He can be an excellent signing without necessarily providing them with a massive windfall.

[Phil MaGlass]

Havent seen it posted anywhere,

https://www.thenational.scot/sport/23463751.galatasaray-enter-kevin-nisbet-race-amid-championship-interest/

[itslegaltender]

Whilst our recruitment had been knocked alot of late I actually don’t want them to completely go away from I know gems/youth players from abroad.

Aberdeen signed Duk and we signed Tavares from the same club, with the latter actually having the better reputation. Unfortunately Tavares doesn’t look like he’ll work out for us.

But Duk is arguably one of the best players in the league and will go for over 10x what Aberdeen bought him for.

We’re clearly looking in the right places and it’s one of the best ways to build and improve the club - but it must be done with some solid, experienced players and players you know what you’re getting.

If Aberdeen get 4-6 million for Duk that is massive. Add that in to the money they got for Ramsay, McKenna, Ferguson and Cosgrove over recent years and that’s massive amounts of money.

Apparently Benfica are on 50% sell on clause for Duk.

[badabing67]

Havent seen it posted anywhere,

https://www.thenational.scot/sport/23463751.galatasaray-enter-kevin-nisbet-race-amid-championship-interest/

Is Turkey not on the Fifa list warning players to be careful about not getting money owed. Genuinely doubt he will go there. I'm sure Stevie Mallan would agree.

[offshorehibby]

Is Turkey not on the Fifa list warning players to be careful about not getting money owed. Genuinely doubt he will go there. I'm sure Stevie Mallan would agree.

Sure Stevie Mallan had trouble getting his wages when he was there.

[Hibernian Verse]

Not sure Galatasary would ever be struggling for cash are they not govt funded? Or is that Beskitas?

[Bayern Bru]

Apparently Benfica are on 50% sell on clause for Duk.

Pretty sure they've got a similar arrangement with Tavares (stop laughing at the back).

[easty]

Whilst our recruitment had been knocked alot of late I actually don’t want them to completely go away from I know gems/youth players from abroad.

Aberdeen signed Duk and we signed Tavares from the same club, with the latter actually having the better reputation. Unfortunately Tavares doesn’t look like he’ll work out for us.

But Duk is arguably one of the best players in the league and will go for over 10x what Aberdeen bought him for.

We’re clearly looking in the right places and it’s one of the best ways to build and improve the club - but it must be done with some solid, experienced players and players you know what you’re getting.

If Aberdeen get 4-6 million for Duk that is massive. Add that in to the money they got for Ramsay, McKenna, Ferguson and Cosgrove over recent years and that’s massive amounts of money.

Did Taveres have a better reputation than Duk? Where has that come from?

Over the last 2 seasons, they both played in Benfica B team, in the Portuguese second tier -
Tavares - 12 starts, 25 sub appearances, 4 goals and 2 assists.
Duk - 10 starts, 31 sub appearances, 11 goals and 1 assist.

[Torto7]

I'd give Tavares another preseason and then judge him. There's a player in there if he can get used to the physical side. Duk is a muscular guy so didn't have any issues with that, Tavares has more skill though.

[Donegal Hibby]

I read bojang has signed for Real ......... Real de Banjul that is :greengrin .

[BoltonHibee]

Sure Stevie Mallan had trouble getting his wages when he was there.

Didn’t get a penny


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[HoboHarry]

Is Turkey not on the Fifa list warning players to be careful about not getting money owed. Genuinely doubt he will go there. I'm sure Stevie Mallan would agree.
Any agent suggesting a move to Turkey is a fine idea should get slapped or fired by the player. Payment issues there have been around for years and years.

[Since90+2]

Aberdeen got Duk on a free, well according to Jim Goodwin who was their manager at the time, so you'd imagine the sell on fee is huge. I wouldn't be surprised if it's 50%,

Saying that if they get 5 million for him, which given his age and length of contract isn't out of the question, it's still great business by the sheep.

[Since90+2]

Any agent suggesting a move to Turkey is a fine idea should get slapped or fired by the player. Payment issues there have been around for years and years.

At certain clubs, but as far as I know, it's never been a problem at Galatasary but could be wrong.

[Smartie]

Did Mikey Stewart not go to a fairly big Turkish club and have problems getting paid?

[PHeffernan]

Did Mikey Stewart not going to a fairly big Turkish club and have problems getting paid?

Gençlerbirliği Spor Kulübü

Stewart agreed a "lucrative" move to Turkish (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey) club Gençlerbirliği (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gen%C3%A7lerbirli%C4%9Fi_S.K.) signing a one-year contract with the club with the option of a further two years.[11] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Stewart_(footballer)#cite_note-11) Stewart picked up an injury early into his spell at Gençlerbirliği (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gen%C3%A7lerbirli%C4%9Fi_S.K.), Stewart left the club in January 2011, claiming that they had not honoured his contract since suffering an injury early in the 2010–11 season

[Greenio]

Didn’t get a penny


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Seriously?

He got zero money from his time there?

That's shocking but you got to ask what his agent etc were doing? He was there for a while no

[BoltonHibee]

Seriously?

He got zero money from his time there?

That's shocking but you got to ask what his agent etc were doing? He was there for a while no

Yes. The PFA or whomever will sort or perhaps have sorted something out ( I can’t remember if it’s happened yet or not)


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[Since452]

Apparently Hearts open to offers for Peter Zout. Surprising, always seems to be a big part of their attack.

[04Sauzee]

Apparently Hearts open to offers for Peter Zout. Surprising, always seems to be a big part of their attack.

Started so well for him , struggled since the world cup.

[Donegal Hibby]

Seriously?

He got zero money from his time there?

That's shocking but you got to ask what his agent etc were doing? He was there for a while no

Had a bad time in Turkey apparently .

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/scots-abroad/stevie-mallan-describes-turkey-hell-24471967

[cabbageandribs1875]

i presume forgotten man Elias Melkerson will be back for next season ? he's been on the bench the last several games for Sparta Rotterdam but not getting any minutes

[Torto7]

i presume forgotten man Elias Melkerson will be back for next season ? he's been on the bench the last several games for Sparta Rotterdam but not getting any minutes

There's umpteen examples of strikers taking a while to find their games. With Elias being so young and at a team that's currently 5th in the Eredivisie seeing potential in him I would rather just hold on to him and see how he develops over the next 18 months or so. Maybe he should have a six month loan in the championship where he'll play every week?

[Trinity Hibee]

There's umpteen examples of strikers taking a while to find their games. With Elias being so young and at a team that's currently 5th in the Eredivisie seeing potential in him I would rather just hold on to him and see how he develops over the next 18 months or so. Maybe he should have a six month loan in the championship where he'll play every week?

Hasn’t shown enough but I agree I wouldn’t give up on him at this stage. Would be happy to loan him out for 6 months next season where he will actually play games. Going out on loan and not playing is just pointless

[Greenio]

i presume forgotten man Elias Melkerson will be back for next season ? he's been on the bench the last several games for Sparta Rotterdam but not getting any minutes

Anyone know how's he's been getting on?

[SaulGoodman]

Anyone know how's he's been getting on?

He’s played 9 minutes.

3/6 accurate passes and 1/1 successful dribbles.

[JohnM1875]

He’s played 9 minutes.

3/6 accurate passes and 1/1 successful dribbles.

£1 million please, Sparta!

[Billy Whizz]

£1 million please, Sparta!

I think the £1m is probably to make our accounts look good

[Unseen work]

Elias to Sparta was always a weird one.

He needed game time and it always looked like he would get even less for them than he did for us.

A loan to a Kilmarnock, County, Livi etc or anywhere he’d get games would have been far more beneficial for him.

[Trinity Hibee]

Elias to Sparta was always a weird one.

He needed game time and it always looked like he would get even less for them than he did for us.

A loan to a Kilmarnock, County, Livi etc or anywhere he’d get games would have been far more beneficial for him.

I can only assume the agreed to pay his full wage? Teams in Scotland won’t have been able to pay 100%

[CapitalGreen]

I think the £1m is probably to make our accounts look good

How would that work exactly? It’s an option to buy not an obligation.

[CapitalGreen]

I’ve no idea if he’ll be back or whether he’ll come good for us but I feel he’s been unfortunate to have spent his time at Hibs in a team playing turgid, slow build up football under Maloney and pre-World Cup under Johnson.

Since the World Cup we’ve been playing more direct, getting the ball forward quicker which has had a noticeable impact on our attacking players performances. Youan is much improved post-WC and Nisbet’s performances are on a different level to when Maloney and Ross were managing the team. I think our current style would be more suited to him (and most other strikers).

When you consider the likes of Nisbet, Shankland, Ross Stewart were all playing 3rd tier football at 21/22 then I think it’s too early to right him off completely however I suspect both parties may want to cut their losses and move on.

[cabbageandribs1875]

There's umpteen examples of strikers taking a while to find their games. With Elias being so young and at a team that's currently 5th in the Eredivisie seeing potential in him I would rather just hold on to him and see how he develops over the next 18 months or so. Maybe he should have a six month loan in the championship where he'll play every week?

they've had a few impressive wins in their recent run of games :agree:




Anyone know how's he's been getting on?


unfortunately he's not been getting on, not in their last several games anyway

[Since452]

We should sign Snodgrass on a short term deal. The Jambos were moaning about him but I'm not believing he's become a poor player overnight.

[HoboHarry]

We should sign Snodgrass on a short term deal. The Jambos were moaning about him but I'm not believing he's become a poor player overnight.
It's out with the transfer window, we can't play him until next season.

[Hibbyradge]

It's out with the transfer window, we can't play him until next season.

Is he not a free agent now?

[CallumLaidlaw]

Is he not a free agent now?

Aye but his registration can only be transferred within transfer windows.


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[HoboHarry]

Is he not a free agent now?
Yes and we could sign him but we can't play him until we register him in the the next window

[bingo70]

Is he not a free agent now?

Come on Radge. Transfer window isn’t a new thing, how are you no getting this?! 😂

Sorry for picking on you but it boggles my mind that people still ask questions like that, it’s no complicated man 😜

[Paulie Walnuts]

Come on Radge. Transfer window isn’t a new thing, how are you no getting this?! 😂

Sorry for picking on you but it boggles my mind that people still ask questions like that, it’s no complicated man 😜

:agree:

I’m convinced it’s an inside joke that I have missed out on whenever this comes up.

[Hibbyradge]

Come on Radge. Transfer window isn’t a new thing, how are you no getting this?! 😂

Sorry for picking on you but it boggles my mind that people still ask questions like that, it’s no complicated man 😜

I thought clubs could sign free agents after the window closed. We have threads about it twice a year.

[04Sauzee]

I thought clubs could sign free agents after the window closed. We have threads about it twice a year.

They have to be freed before the window shuts.

[WeeRussell]

I thought clubs could sign free agents after the window closed. We have threads about it twice a year.

One more time mate. I’m gonna take you to the ****ing cleaners.

[Hibbyradge]

They have to be freed before the window shuts.

Right. That's the bit I didn't know.

It's obviously a bit more complicated than even laughing boy Bingo realised! :na na:

[bingo70]

Right. That's the bit I didn't know.

It's obviously a bit more complicated than even laughing boy Bingo realised! :na na:

Nope, not complicated.

Even my dog understands it and he’s a dog.

[Hibbyradge]

Nope, not complicated.

Even my dog understands it and he’s a dog.

You mocked me for suggesting clubs could sign players outwith the transfer windows, but they can.

We signed Devlin in February hence my suggestion.

I imagine that a lot of people wouldn't realise that the player had to be a free agent when the previous window closed. Unlike your dog, obviously.

[HoboHarry]

You mocked me for suggesting clubs could sign players outwith the transfer windows, but they can.

We signed Devlin in February hence my suggestion.
Yes we can but we would be giving Snodgrass free money until the summer. Devlin can play any time LJ picks him because he was a free agent when the window closed.

[Hibbyradge]

Yes we can but we would be giving Snodgrass free money until the summer. Devlin can play any time LJ picks him because he was a free agent when the window closed.

I get that now.

[Lago]

You mocked me for suggesting clubs could sign players outwith the transfer windows, but they can.

We signed Devlin in February hence my suggestion.

I imagine that a lot of people wouldn't realise that the player had to be a free agent when the previous window closed. Unlike your dog, obviously.
Just stop now 🙄

[bingo70]

You mocked me for suggesting clubs could sign players outwith the transfer windows, but they can.

We signed Devlin in February hence my suggestion.

Yeah, because he was a free agent when the transfer window closed.

Saying I mocked you makes it sounds harsher than I meant it to, gentle piss taking more accurate.

You’ll have plenty ammunition to get me back in no time I’m sure.

[Hibbyradge]

Just stop now 🙄

Stop what? Explaining my mistake?

No.

[jeffers]

Hope we don’t sign Bingo’s dog. Johnson would only play him out of position. 😜

[HoboHarry]

Stop what? Explaining my mistake?

No.
Just don't forget this in between the next two transfer windows or you'll be getting dogs abuse :greengrin

[HoboHarry]

Hope we don’t sign Bingo’s dog. Johnson would only play him out of position. 😜
Ach my cat identifies as a panther, the ferocious wee b*****d that he is - we could sign him anaw and he'll keep the ferkin dog right

[Hibbyradge]

Just don't forget this in between the next two transfer windows or you'll be getting dogs abuse :greengrin

Forget what?

[HoboHarry]

Forget what?
:greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

Nope, not complicated.

Even my dog understands it and he’s a dog.What kind of dog is it? as I've just asked our german shepherd for his interpretation of the transfer rules here and all he did was bring me a tennis ball.



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[Unseen work]

How about Ryan Strain from St Mirren?

Seen him mentioned on her a few times, one year left on his deal and just signed with a new agent.

[Paulie Walnuts]

How about Ryan Strain from St Mirren?

Seen him mentioned on her a few times, one year left on his deal and just signed with a new agent.

Joe Bakers nephew 👍🏼

[Eyrie]

Hope we don’t sign Bingo’s dog. Johnson would only play him out of position. 😜

Since he understands the transfer window rules, I'm assuming he applied for the DoF role.

Bingo - did he get a better response from Hibs than Hughes?

[MWHIBBIES]

We should sign Snodgrass on a short term deal. The Jambos were moaning about him but I'm not believing he's become a poor player overnight.

You're right, he's actually been pish for a while.

[bingo70]

Since he understands the transfer window rules, I'm assuming he applied for the DoF role.

Bingo - did he get a better response from Hibs than Hughes?

Barked twice for a yes.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/jonny-williams-hibs-transfer-talks-29767960

In other non dog related news, Jonny Williams linked again.

[007]

Hope we don’t sign Bingo’s dog. Johnson would only play him out of position. 😜

With a name like Bingo I think it's the dog that's posting on here. 🤔

[ChilliEater]

What kind of dog is it? as I've just asked our german shepherd for his interpretation of the transfer rules here and all he did was bring me a tennis ball.



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If your window was open when he brought you the ball, then you can throw it for him, but if it was closed you can't. Obvious really, I mean, you don't want a German Shepherd chasing a ball around your living room.

[Trinity Hibee]

So as it stands are the only rumours Fitzwater and Williams?

[bingo70]

So as it stands are the only rumours Fitzwater and Williams?

Story in the papers yesterday saying Hearts were favourite to sign Devlin from Livingston but there was also interest from other clubs, including us.

Jamie McGrath, currently on loan at Dundee Utd, also been linked with us.

[JimBHibees]

How about Ryan Strain from St Mirren?

Seen him mentioned on her a few times, one year left on his deal and just signed with a new agent.

Think he is a very good player.

[Hibernian Verse]

Since he understands the transfer window rules, I'm assuming he applied for the DoF role.

Bingo - did he get a better response from Hibs than Hughes?

I wouldn't be splitting the best part of 450k a year between Kensell and a Dog of Football, we simply can't afford it.

[04Sauzee]

From Patrick Mcpartlin

Hibs are in talks with Lewis Stevenson over a new deal. Nothing signed yet, but club views him as a first-team player next season - there are 'a few moving parts', according to Lee Johnson

[green day]

Hope we don’t sign Bingo’s dog. Johnson would only play him out of position. 😜

Thats just barking mad.

Sometimes you need to paws and reflect on your posts...............

[Jones28]

From Patrick Mcpartlin

Hibs are in talks with Lewis Stevenson over a new deal. Nothing signed yet, but club views him as a first-team player next season - there are 'a few moving parts', according to Lee Johnson

Thank **** for that. Go and just give him a retirement contract Hibs? I can't handle this tension every year.

[chippy]

Think he is a very good player.

interesting , he’s the grandson of Gerry Baker and the great nephew on the one and only Joe Baker

[Unseen work]

Scott Burns saying we’re still chsssing Williams

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/jonny-williams-hibs-transfer-talks-29767960

Appreciate quite a few have already said the deal is done

[Brightside]

Scott Burns saying we’re still chsssing Williams

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/jonny-williams-hibs-transfer-talks-29767960

Appreciate quite a few have already said the deal is done

The chat was he had already been up at HTC etc. This and other rumours pretty much knocks on the head the idea that the DoF will have input to transfers this season.

[007]

From Patrick Mcpartlin

Hibs are in talks with Lewis Stevenson over a new deal. Nothing signed yet, but club views him as a first-team player next season - there are 'a few moving parts', according to Lee Johnson

Yay, the Lewis/Chuck Norris thread's worked.

[Hibbyradge]

The chat was he had already been up at HTC etc. This and other rumours pretty much knocks on the head the idea that the DoF will have input to transfers this season.

No it doesn't.

If the manager wants a specific player, he'll still be able to get him.

In any case, we don't have a DOF yet and we can't afford to wait before working on the summer window.

[Bostonhibby]

If your window was open when he brought you the ball, then you can throw it for him, but if it was closed you can't. Obvious really, I mean, you don't want a German Shepherd chasing a ball around your living room.[emoji23]

That actually sounds more like a canine analysis of how the VAR rules are applied in scotland

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[Heisenberg]

The chat was he had already been up at HTC etc. This and other rumours pretty much knocks on the head the idea that the DoF will have input to transfers this season.

The DOF will have input whenever they are in the job. Can’t expect all transfer business to stop because we are still in the recruitment process.

[Trinity Hibee]

interesting , he’s the grandson of Gerry Baker and the great nephew on the one and only Joe Baker

Get him signed!

[Brightside]

No it doesn't.

If the manager wants a specific player, he'll still be able to get him.

In any case, we don't have a DOF yet and we can't afford to wait before working on the summer window.

And that shouldn't be the case. IMO.

[Hibernian Verse]

And that shouldn't be the case. IMO.

The manager shouldn't be able to identify players that he feels will suit his system?

[JimBHibees]

And that shouldn't be the case. IMO.

Only if we have a DOF in place and he agrees. Clear issues if manager players get knocked back but with little reason for doing so.

[JimBHibees]

The manager shouldn't be able to identify players that he feels will suit his system?

Imo he should be able to identify but only targeted if agreed with recruitment committee. Clear process

[Hibernian Verse]

Imo he should be able to identify but only targeted if agreed with recruitment committee. Clear process

Absolutely agree, there has to be a statistical basis for signing a player these days.

[Brightside]

The manager shouldn't be able to identify players that he feels will suit his system?

We moved away from managers finding players after Lennon. If the "committee" agree that a player put forward is a good fit then there shouldn't be an issue. Johnny Williams doesn't appear to fit with any of our recent signing policy. We have seen a few signings in the last year that don't appear to provide any opportunity of sell on value. But maybe we just made that whole policy up just to appease the fans at a point in time.

[Brightside]

The manager shouldn't be able to identify players that he feels will suit his system?

The last part of your sentence is the worry for me. He signs players for "his" system. What happens when we sack him after he loses 6 on the trot.

[Hibernian Verse]

The last part of your sentence is the worry for me. He signs players for "his" system. What happens when we sack him after he loses 6 on the trot.

So which system do we sign them for?

[Hibernian Verse]

We moved away from managers finding players after Lennon. If the "committee" agree that a player put forward is a good fit then there shouldn't be an issue. Johnny Williams doesn't appear to fit with any of our recent signing policy. We have seen a few signings in the last year that don't appear to provide any opportunity of sell on value. But maybe we just made that whole policy up just to appease the fans at a point in time.

Sorry definitely not the case post Lennon.

Magennis identified by JR
Newell by Hecky
McGeady by LJ
Kukha by LJ & City Group connections

There will be many more examples.

Re; your last point was a nice strategy in principle to go for young guys that might make it but in practice hasn't worked.

[bingo70]

The last part of your sentence is the worry for me. He signs players for "his" system. What happens when we sack him after he loses 6 on the trot.

It’s never going to be as black and white as his signings of the clubs signings.

The club will have a profile of player they want to sign, if the manager wants to deviate away from that they will just need to present a case to the committee to say why they’d be a good signing. Dare say if the manager tries to do that too often the club would say no but for the right person there’ll be flexibility.

[Since452]

The last part of your sentence is the worry for me. He signs players for "his" system. What happens when we sack him after he loses 6 on the trot.

I don't think we will. I think we've learned our lesson on that. Changing the manager after a bad run rarely solves anything. He won't be sacked lightly.

[CapitalGreen]

Sorry definitely not the case post Lennon.

Magennis identified by JR
Newell by Hecky
McGeady by LJ
Kukha by LJ & City Group connections

There will be many more examples.

Re; your last point was a nice strategy in principle to go for young guys that might make it but in practice hasn't worked.

Paul and Stephen McGinn were JR signings too, plus the summer long pursuit of Jamie McCart.

If a manager has useful contacts in the game who can recommend him good players, like Lennon had for Marciano, McLaren and Kamberi, we should absolutely be utilising those.

[Brightside]

Sorry definitely not the case post Lennon.

Magennis identified by JR
Newell by Hecky
McGeady by LJ
Kukha by LJ & City Group connections

There will be many more examples.

Re; your last point was a nice strategy in principle to go for young guys that might make it but in practice hasn't worked.

We identified Magennis way before JR. Source - our CEO at the time.
Newell was ID'd by Graeme Mathie.

I agree on the LJ ones. We changed when Mathie left.

[Tyler Durden]

We moved away from managers finding players after Lennon. If the "committee" agree that a player put forward is a good fit then there shouldn't be an issue. Johnny Williams doesn't appear to fit with any of our recent signing policy. We have seen a few signings in the last year that don't appear to provide any opportunity of sell on value. But maybe we just made that whole policy up just to appease the fans at a point in time.

This approach is still in line with the stated strategy. Not every player is going to be young with sell on potential. Ian Gordon was quoted at the start of the season about the need for experience to help the younger players. Marshall and McGeady for starters.

I think Williams can play 3 roles in the current system and that flexibility is something we need.

[Hibernian Verse]

We identified Magennis way before JR. Source - our CEO at the time.
Newell was ID'd by Graeme Mathie.

I agree on the LJ ones. We changed when Mathie left.

Fair enough on Newell, I see he said that on Longbangers.

We would've been aware of Magennis, but Jack Ross gave him his debut at St Mirren and made him a priority.

[Iain G]

Sorry definitely not the case post Lennon.

Magennis identified by JR
Newell by Hecky
McGeady by LJ
Kukha by LJ & City Group connections

There will be many more examples.

Re; your last point was a nice strategy in principle to go for young guys that might make it but in practice hasn't worked.

We had been talking to McGeady when Maloney was in charge, same with Marshall. Same with McKirdy if I recall his interview?

[Donegal Hibby]

We had been talking to McGeady when Maloney was in charge, same with Marshall. Same with McKirdy if I recall his interview?
:agree:.

Mykola could have been a LJ signing with connections to the city group as could Egan -Riley maybe as well.

[Scooter]

Sorry definitely not the case post Lennon.

Magennis identified by JR
Newell by Hecky
McGeady by LJ
Kukha by LJ & City Group connections

There will be many more examples.

Re; your last point was a nice strategy in principle to go for young guys that might make it but in practice hasn't worked.

Jair was defo an LJ signing

[Tambo]

Youan again showed why we must keep him, he was our only threat again today and another assit and worked his socks off.

The first half shows again we lack that creativity in the middle when playing against these teams.

Williams could be that something?

With Youan and Boyle on the wings and a good solid spine in midfield and defence adding in that number 10 player we should be good for next season.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Youan again showed why we must keep him, he was our only threat again today and another assit and worked his socks off.

The first half shows again we lack that creativity in the middle when playing against these teams.

Williams could be that something?

With Youan and Boyle on the wings and a good solid spine in midfield and defence adding in that number 10 player we should be good for next season.

Youan was crap today, don't know what game you were watching 🤔

[cabbageandribs1875]

just shows we all see things differently :greengrin the last two youan performances has had me thinking i hope we don't fork out the 'rumoured' hefty fee for him at end of season



before the last few performances i've thought his final ball would improve, over time

[Tambo]

Youan was crap today, don't know what game you were watching 🤔

I must of watched a different game then as the game I watched he was our only attacking threat and done well for setting up the goal.

[Allant1981]

Youan was crap today, don't know what game you were watching 🤔

He wasn't crap, our only attacking threat and tracked back loads today, was better than Nisbet for sure

[easty]

I hope we’re already on the lookout for a new keeper.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

I must of watched a different game then as the game I watched he was our only attacking threat and done well for setting up the goal.

Apart from that what else? He's got to do better, some of his final balls were a joke.

[Northernhibee]

I hope we’re already on the lookout for a new keeper.
He made some decent saves in the second half but that’s three howlers in seven or eight games.

[easty]

He made some decent saves in the second half but that’s three howlers in seven or eight games.

We cannae rely on him. He should be steady and leading by example, but he’s miles away from that just now.

If it was the young guy Johnson in goals, you could give him the benefit of the doubt, and say he needs these errors to learn and develop, but Marshall just needs to get his head out his arse. He’s better than he’s been showing.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We cannae rely on him. He should be steady and leading by example, but he’s miles away from that just now.

If it was the young guy Johnson in goals, you could give him the benefit of the doubt, and say he needs these errors to learn and develop, but Marshall just needs to get his head out his arse. He’s better than he’s been showing.

He simply cannot start for us next season. He’s been so poor and tbh I’m not sure he is better than he’s showing anymore.

Bring back Marciano. Marshall would be a decent back up while Johnston goes out on loan.

[CapitalGreen]

For the sixth summer in a row - please sign new central midfielders as a priority.

[Tambo]

Apart from that what else? He's got to do better, some of his final balls were a joke.

What else did you want from him today? The whole team was crap today as an attacking unit even with 11 men but Youan was our only attacking threat who worked hard and set up the goal.

What did you think of Cadden today? Nisbet?

Don't you think he has been one of our better players this season?

[Jones28]

I must of watched a different game then as the game I watched he was our only attacking threat and done well for setting up the goal.

I thought he was pretty anonymous tbh, played the ball to Lewis but I’d hardly say it was an assist.

[Allant1981]

I thought he was pretty anonymous tbh, played the ball to Lewis but I’d hardly say it was an assist.

He took his guy on and played the ball in for Stevenson to have the shot, to say it was hardly an assist is just nonsense

[CapitalGreen]

I thought he was pretty anonymous tbh, played the ball to Lewis but I’d hardly say it was an assist.

The only player in green who tried to get the ball down and play today rather than look to punt it away whenever they received it. Our team pass completion today was an abysmally low 50%. Youan was the only Hibs starter to complete more than 60% of his passes. He completed 86% of his passes (12/14), one of which was an assist for our only goal.

Was it a vintage Youan performance? No.
Was he the worst Hibs player on the pitch? Not even close.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

What else did you want from him today? The whole team was crap today as an attacking unit even with 11 men but Youan was our only attacking threat who worked hard and set up the goal.

What did you think of Cadden today? Nisbet?

Don't you think he has been one of our better players this season?
Whole team were pash, what happened to the spirit of last week? Nowhere to be seen.

[J-C]

I thought he was pretty anonymous tbh, played the ball to Lewis but I’d hardly say it was an assist.

:agree: when did a bog standard 5 yd pass become an assist, it was Lewis's touch and shot that made the goal.

[EskbankHibby]

:agree: when did a bog standard 5 yd pass become an assist, it was Lewis's touch and shot that made the goal.

Without the pass - no goal.

Hibs were awful today, truly dreadful, second only to the referee in terms of dreadful performances.

Youan is a player, not at his best today but starved of any service as our setup and performance left him limited opportunity. Youan is not part of our problem, I sincerely hope he is part of the solution as he is a football player.

Lumping high balls all day into a St Johnstone defence and hoping for the best is not the way we should be looking to play and not the best way to utilise Youan.

[CapitalGreen]

:agree: when did a bog standard 5 yd pass become an assist, it was Lewis's touch and shot that made the goal.

Maybe I’m missing a whoosh here but he picks up the ball near the centre circle, drives forward, skins their full back then threads a pass between 2 opposition defenders into Stevenson’s feet. That pass is closer to 15 yards and is far from simple.

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[scoopyboy]

Maybe I’m missing a whoosh here but he picks up the ball near the centre circle, drives forward, skins their full back then threads a pass between 2 opposition defenders into Stevenson’s feet. That pass is closer to 15 yards and is far from simple.

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That puts that to bed then😁

[B.H.F.C]

Maybe I’m missing a whoosh here but he picks up the ball near the centre circle, drives forward, skins their full back then threads a pass between 2 opposition defenders into Stevenson’s feet. That pass is closer to 15 yards and is far from simple.

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Cannae believe some no giving him credit for the assist. I’m no entirely convinced he tried to pick Lewis out, but it was a good bit of play nonetheless .

Brilliant touch and finish as well though.

[Allant1981]

Maybe I’m missing a whoosh here but he picks up the ball near the centre circle, drives forward, skins their full back then threads a pass between 2 opposition defenders into Stevenson’s feet. That pass is closer to 15 yards and is far from simple.

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Aye but apart from all that it was a bog standard pass

[Jones28]

Maybe I’m missing a whoosh here but he picks up the ball near the centre circle, drives forward, skins their full back then threads a pass between 2 opposition defenders into Stevenson’s feet. That pass is closer to 15 yards and is far from simple.

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I didn’t realise he’d carried the ball as far as that, so I’ll downgrade my anonymous to an “not as good as I know he can be”.

The ball to Stevenson looked simple enough to me from the Ormond stand, it was all about the finish. But Elie played his part so fair enough, a deserved assist.

[MWHIBBIES]

:agree: when did a bog standard 5 yd pass become an assist, it was Lewis's touch and shot that made the goal.

Had a nightmare here pal :faf:

Not his best game at all, but done well for the goal.

[Hibernian Verse]

Had a nightmare here pal :faf:

Not his best game at all, but done well for the goal.

Wasn’t an assist though as it wasn’t a World Cup ball. The SPFL assists table only registers 40 yard rakers.

[Tambo]

No way was i saying Youan was perfect, I just thought he was our main threat which he has been for a lot of the season.

I agree that his decision making at times could improve and getting used to the Scottish game 6 goals and 7 Assists is an OK return.

I also agree the rumored 750k could be a risky fee but one that could pay off in the long run.

[Stevie Reid]

BBC reporting that Aberdeen are getting £2M for Ross McCrorie. Very surprised at that.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

BBC reporting that Aberdeen are getting £2M for Ross McCrorie. Very surprised at that.

Hope they were wearing a mask when they negotiated that, daylight robbery


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[Billy Whizz]

No way was i saying Youan was perfect, I just thought he was our main threat which he has been for a lot of the season.

I agree that his decision making at times could improve and getting used to the Scottish game 6 goals and 7 Assists is an OK return.

I also agree the rumored 750k could be a risky fee but one that could pay off in the long run.
If that’s the fee, he’ll be heading back to his parent club

[marinello59]

If that’s the fee, he’ll be heading back to his parent club

Yeap. We can get better for that sort of money.

[Tyler Durden]

BBC reporting that Aberdeen are getting £2M for Ross McCrorie. Very surprised at that.

From whom?

Edit - checked myself! Bristol City for £2m…. very surprising. Good player but would have thought they’d have taken half that

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yeap. We can get better for that sort of money.

We could also got a lot worse imo.

He’s had a season where he’s registered 13 goals and assists in 31 games. I’d rather take the chance on him than some unknown from abroad or down south imo.

[Tyler Durden]

If that’s the fee, he’ll be heading back to his parent club

I think Patrick McPartlin confirmed the fee was not in that region. Sounds like under £500k