Demetri Mitchell

[theonlywayisup]

One player that I can't understand his lack of success/game time at Hibs was Demetri Mitchell.

At Hibs, in season 21/22 he was involved in 7 games with a total of 370 minutes on the pitch. In season 22/23, it was 3 games and a total of 71 minutes. His contribution during his time at Hibs wasn't great (being diplomatic), with only the goal against Livingston being memorable.

Now at Exeter, he's been involved in 10 games with a total of 661 minutes. He generally plays the full 90 minutes and has scored two goals and one assist. In yesterday's match report, the BBC write "The deadlock was broken in fine fashion after 36 minutes when Demetri Mitchell cut in from the left and curled a wonderful shot beyond goalkeeper Lukas Jensen and into the far corner with his right foot from 20 yards."

Whilst at Hibs, I couldn't tell whether he was 1) not fit enough, 2) not interested enough or 3) not good enough. Anyone got any interesting insight into why he failed to be a success at the Hibees?

[MWHIBBIES]

Strange one. Looked okay last season but injury stopped him doing anything for us really. Was dreadful in the game he started this season.

[Brightside]

Attitude. Close the file.

[Carheenlea]

Found his level in the lower leagues of England.

[S4uzee]

One player that I can't understand his lack of success/game time at Hibs was Demetri Mitchell.

At Hibs, in season 21/22 he was involved in 7 games with a total of 370 minutes on the pitch. In season 22/23, it was 3 games and a total of 71 minutes. His contribution during his time at Hibs wasn't great (being diplomatic), with only the goal against Livingston being memorable.

Now at Exeter, he's been involved in 10 games with a total of 661 minutes. He generally plays the full 90 minutes and has scored two goals and one assist. In yesterday's match report, the BBC write "The deadlock was broken in fine fashion after 36 minutes when Demetri Mitchell cut in from the left and curled a wonderful shot beyond goalkeeper Lukas Jensen and into the far corner with his right foot from 20 yards."

Whilst at Hibs, I couldn't tell whether he was 1) not fit enough, 2) not interested enough or 3) not good enough. Anyone got any interesting insight into why he failed to be a success at the Hibees?

James Scott also scored for Exeter yesterday ….

[Since452]

Thought he was Maloneys best signing. Was it the Arbroath game he got an injury? Never the same after.

[Pretty Boy]

If memory serves me right he was very good for Hearts when on loan but when he returned after that he wasn't the same player.

Maybe just one of those players who starts well at clubs but can't sustain it for a prolonged period. Be interesting to see if he maintains his form at Exeter for longer than 2 or 3 months.

[Big_Franck]

Absolute wage thief.

[Northernhibee]

If memory serves me right he was very good for Hearts when on loan but when he returned after that he wasn't the same player.

Maybe just one of those players who starts well at clubs but can't sustain it for a prolonged period. Be interesting to see if he maintains his form at Exeter for longer than 2 or 3 months.
Same reports from Blackpool fans.

[BoomtownHibees]

If memory serves me right he was very good for Hearts when on loan but when he returned after that he wasn't the same player.

Maybe just one of those players who starts well at clubs but can't sustain it for a prolonged period. Be interesting to see if he maintains his form at Exeter for longer than 2 or 3 months.

Think he also got injured during his 2nd spell with them

[BILLYHIBS]

Really liked him his first spell at Hearts and was excited when he signed

I remember his first touch at ER in his home debut the ball was played out to him out wide as an overlapping wing back took a bad bounce and bounced over his head and out for a throw in

Not a great start but made me think how small he was ?

He would go on to score in a 2-3 loss against Livvy and again against Arbroath away in the Scottish

Did not work out for whatever reason you always want Hibs players to do well

Hooked before half time in his last appearance and could not help but wonder why he ever started as he did not look right and there were better options on the bench

Wish him every success

[Billy Whizz]

Think injuries were his downfall at Hibs. Chipped in with a few goals then got injured again

[Tyler Durden]

He wasn’t interested in playing

[PHeffernan]

Thought he was Maloneys best signing. Was it the Arbroath game he got an injury? Never the same after.

Sustained a bad injury tackling with the outside of his foot against Arbroath. Appeared to have been forced back against Ross County this season when not ready and quickly broke down injured. For reasons unknown he was then left on the pitch for another 15 minutes, unable to move properly, before being replaced.
After the World Cup he was properly fit but Hibs had lost patience, had decided they wanted him off the wage bill and I believe there was some fall out with the management which saw him not included in the match day squads as they tried to force him out going into the January window.
I think we lost a ton of money on him including paying him off and let him go at exactly the wrong time i.e. when he was fit and ready to play. I think he is a better player than Cabraja and could have been our left wing back moving forward so i'm not surprised that he is playing very well for Exeter.
If he gets injured again I will concede Hibs got it right.
If only he hadn't bothered with that ill advised tackle at Arbroath he would have been our left wing back and we wouldn't have needed to bring Cabraja in and then we wouldn't have had to get rid of a left wing back in January.
I don't expect anyone to agree with me but it's how I see it.

[CentreForward]

Sustained a bad injury tackling with the outside of his foot against Arbroath. Appeared to have been forced back against Ross County this season when not ready and quickly broke down injured. For reasons unknown he was then left on the pitch for another 15 minutes, unable to move properly, before being replaced.
After the World Cup he was properly fit but Hibs had lost patience, had decided they wanted him off the wage bill and I believe there was some fall out with the management which saw him not included in the match day squads as they tried to force him out going into the January window.
I think we lost a ton of money on him including paying him off and let him go at exactly the wrong time i.e. when he was fit and ready to play. I think he is a better player than Cabraja and could have been our left wing back moving forward so i'm not surprised that he is playing very well for Exeter.
If he gets injured again I will concede Hibs got it right.
If only he hadn't bothered with that ill advised tackle at Arbroath he would have been our left wing back and we wouldn't have needed to bring Cabraja in and then we wouldn't have had to get rid of a left wing back in January.
I don't expect anyone to agree with me but it's how I see it.


Well you may not have expected anyone to agree but I largely do. Reckon you’ve got it pretty spot on there !

[1van Sprou7e]

He's at a mid tabel league one team. Not sure how how getting a start there means he should have been a success for Hibs

[BILLYHIBS]

Sustained a bad injury tackling with the outside of his foot against Arbroath. Appeared to have been forced back against Ross County this season when not ready and quickly broke down injured. For reasons unknown he was then left on the pitch for another 15 minutes, unable to move properly, before being replaced.
After the World Cup he was properly fit but Hibs had lost patience, had decided they wanted him off the wage bill and I believe there was some fall out with the management which saw him not included in the match day squads as they tried to force him out going into the January window.
I think we lost a ton of money on him including paying him off and let him go at exactly the wrong time i.e. when he was fit and ready to play. I think he is a better player than Cabraja and could have been our left wing back moving forward so i'm not surprised that he is playing very well for Exeter.
If he gets injured again I will concede Hibs got it right.
If only he hadn't bothered with that ill advised tackle at Arbroath he would have been our left wing back and we wouldn't have needed to bring Cabraja in and then we wouldn't have had to get rid of a left wing back in January.
I don't expect anyone to agree with me but it's how I see it.

Sounds about right

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[HFC93]

Not good enough.

[PHeffernan]

Well you may not have expected anyone to agree but I largely do. Reckon you’ve got it pretty spot on there !


Sounds about right

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Thanks guys.
I thought most posters would just kneejerk to he wasn't good enough.
For me we didn't get to find out and he didn't get to show us because of his injury but I think he is a good quality player.
Seeing him score on his debut against Livingston and play a handful of league games before getting injured didn't give him enough credit in the bank to carry his subsequent injury that went on forever whilst at the same time we were struggling hellishly as a team. When he did get pushed back into the team against Ross County it sealed his fate with the supporters when he was injured early on and was madly left on for 20 further minutes which made him look like an idiot who couldn't play and that recency bias is supporters memory of him.
Never mind onwards and upwards for Hibs.

[Highwayman]

Thought Hibs did well to offload Mitchell when they did.
As with other clubs he’s been with he couldn’t be relied upon due to injury or inconsistency of form to make a significant contribution.
Wish him well at Exeter City but on the evidence of his time a previous clubs wouldn’t be surprised if it imploded for him there also.
As a side bar note that a former “favourite”of .nutters one Stevie Mallan is beginning to pop the goals for Salford City,who are looking good for a play off place in English League Two.
But then again why would Hibs need a midfielder who can score consistently !!!

[PHeffernan]

Thought Hibs did well to offload Mitchell when they did.
As with other clubs he’s been with he couldn’t be relied upon due to injury or inconsistency of form to make a significant contribution.
Wish him well at Exeter City but on the evidence of his time a previous clubs wouldn’t be surprised if it imploded for him there also.
As a side bar note that a former “favourite”of .nutters one Stevie Mallan is beginning to pop the goals for Salford City,who are looking good for a play off place in English League Two.
But then again why would Hibs need a midfielder who can score consistently !!!

There was no inconsistency of form with Mitchell, just injuries.
Mallan's injury record is pretty grim as well. Has only started 2 games this season and come on as a sub in 4 more. Good to see him back though.
Mitchell has already played 10 games for Exeter scoring 2 goals.
Mallan is in the 4th league tier and Mitchell in the 3rd.

[MWHIBBIES]

Thought Hibs did well to offload Mitchell when they did.
As with other clubs he’s been with he couldn’t be relied upon due to injury or inconsistency of form to make a significant contribution.
Wish him well at Exeter City but on the evidence of his time a previous clubs wouldn’t be surprised if it imploded for him there also.
As a side bar note that a former “favourite”of .nutters one Stevie Mallan is beginning to pop the goals for Salford City,who are looking good for a play off place in English League Two.
But then again why would Hibs need a midfielder who can score consistently !!!

Mallans best ever league season for Hibs = 7 goals in 37 games.
Josh Campbell this season = 8 goals in 28 games

We have a midfielder who scores. Fortunately, Campbell can also do other things, like tackle.

Mallan found his level. Great shot, little else.

[blackpoolhibs]

Mallan could score against fishermen and posties, Mitchell was just pish, both found their level now.

[PHeffernan]

Mallan could score against fishermen and posties, Mitchell was just pish, both found their level now.

I saw this from yesterday. I wish Cabraja was as pish as this at left wing back
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12842454/demetri-mitchells-beautiful-solo-goal-kick-starts-huge-

[Dunbar Hibee]

Sustained a bad injury tackling with the outside of his foot against Arbroath. Appeared to have been forced back against Ross County this season when not ready and quickly broke down injured. For reasons unknown he was then left on the pitch for another 15 minutes, unable to move properly, before being replaced.
After the World Cup he was properly fit but Hibs had lost patience, had decided they wanted him off the wage bill and I believe there was some fall out with the management which saw him not included in the match day squads as they tried to force him out going into the January window.
I think we lost a ton of money on him including paying him off and let him go at exactly the wrong time i.e. when he was fit and ready to play. I think he is a better player than Cabraja and could have been our left wing back moving forward so i'm not surprised that he is playing very well for Exeter.
If he gets injured again I will concede Hibs got it right.
If only he hadn't bothered with that ill advised tackle at Arbroath he would have been our left wing back and we wouldn't have needed to bring Cabraja in and then we wouldn't have had to get rid of a left wing back in January.
I don't expect anyone to agree with me but it's how I see it.

We didn’t pay him off…

[blackpoolhibs]

I saw this from yesterday. I wish Cabraja was as pish as this at left wing back
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12842454/demetri-mitchells-beautiful-solo-goal-kick-starts-huge-

When he eventually slips that far down the leagues, he probably will be.

[Trinity Hibee]

I saw this from yesterday. I wish Cabraja was as pish as this at left wing back
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12842454/demetri-mitchells-beautiful-solo-goal-kick-starts-huge-

There is no doubt we had to get rid of Mitchell. Players who aren’t fit enough to get on the pitch are useless. Just as we are seeing with Magennis.

I know Hearts mates have said his second spell with them he was constantly injured too.

[J-C]

There is no doubt we had to get rid of Mitchell. Players who aren’t fit enough to get on the pitch are useless. Just as we are seeing with Magennis.

I know Hearts mates have said his second spell with them he was constantly injured too.

There was also talk of disruption from some in the changing room, players not playing and griping, maybe Mitchell was one, he seemed more interested in his clothing line than actually playing. The clearout in January seems to have done the trick.

[superfurryhibby]

We didn’t pay him off…

Nor did we lose ton of money on him.

He signed , was injured, didn’t recover and left for a team who play at a lower level than us. We didn’t get a return from him, pish indifferent or otherwise.

Personally, he’s just another of many anonymous players who pass through the doors at Hibs, barely contribute and who is now an irrelevance.

[Since452]

He's got ability. I don't think anyone thinks he doesn't. You don't come through at Man United if you don't have something about you. It seems he's started off pretty well at every single club he's been at before he gets injured. It'll happen at Exeter too. He should do well at that level though..

[Heisenberg]

He did ok a couple of times but didn’t look massively better than anything we’ve got at the club. Obviously the injuries stopped us getting a proper look at him over a prolonged period of time.

[CentreForward]

Thanks guys.
I thought most posters would just kneejerk to he wasn't good enough.
For me we didn't get to find out and he didn't get to show us because of his injury but I think he is a good quality player.
Seeing him score on his debut against Livingston and play a handful of league games before getting injured didn't give him enough credit in the bank to carry his subsequent injury that went on forever whilst at the same time we were struggling hellishly as a team. When he did get pushed back into the team against Ross County it sealed his fate with the supporters when he was injured early on and was madly left on for 20 further minutes which made him look like an idiot who couldn't play and that recency bias is supporters memory of him.
Never mind onwards and upwards for Hibs.


Thanks Heff, and again I largely agree. I think like all fans we’re sometimes too harsh on players who get injuries. It’s impossible to know exactly how much that might be affecting a particular player and can easily lead to fan frustration. A lot of it can also be down to bad decisions like leaving him on the field too long, as you mentioned. Clearly Magennis is our worst current example of an injured player and it can be all too easy to put the blame on the player despite the fact that the injuries really aren’t his fault. I am convinced that an injury free Magennis would have done really well for us and in that case we would have been very happy with his 5 year deal. Am sure that Mitchell could have been very useful for us as well in different circumstances.

[PHeffernan]

Nor did we lose ton of money on him.

He signed , was injured, didn’t recover and left for a team who play at a lower level than us. We didn’t get a return from him, pish indifferent or otherwise.

Personally, he’s just another of many anonymous players who pass through the doors at Hibs, barely contribute and who is now an irrelevance.

If we signed him for a fee from Blackpool, paid a signing on fee to the player and his agent and paid him a years wages for little return then we spent and lost a lot of money.

[superfurryhibby]

If we signed him for a fee from Blackpool, paid a signing on fee to the player and his agent and paid him a years wages for little return then we spent and lost a lot of money.

I guess it’s all relative. You said we lost a “ton” and then a “lot” of money. I think we spent some money and got a crap return for it. In truth no one knows, but he can sit in the forgettable category either way, alongside many others.

Kyle Magennis on the other hand, that’s a transfer that probably has cost the club a ton of money.

These things happen.

[PHeffernan]

I guess it’s all relative. You said we lost a “ton” and then a “lot” of money. I think we spent some money and got a crap return for it. In truth no one knows, but he can sit in the forgettable category either way, alongside many others.

Kyle Magennis on the other hand, that’s a transfer that probably has cost the club a ton of money.

These things happen.

I don't think there would be change out of £300k spent on Mitchell so a ton/lot of money with no return.
I reckon there was a falling out during a toxic time at the club when the manager and others big hitters were under lots of pressure due to the team struggling.
It would have been better IMO if Mitchell had been loaned out to Exeter City to play games and prove his fitness but as I say I suspect he fell out with Johnson and there can only be one winner in that scenario.
I prefer when players leave when we know they aren't good enough for Hibs and that wasn't the case with Mitchell. We moved him on when he was fit and part of that might have been the medical team being of the opinion that his being fit was likely to be temporary. If that was the case he is disproving that so far at Exeter.

McKirdy, Henderson, Cabraja and Doidge are four who are currently in danger of leaving under the not good enough moniker.

[Since452]

I don't think there would be change out of £300k spent on Mitchell so a ton/lot of money with no return.
I reckon there was a falling out during a toxic time at the club when the manager and others big hitters were under lots of pressure due to the team struggling.
It would have been better IMO if Mitchell had been loaned out to Exeter City to play games and prove his fitness but as I say I suspect he fell out with Johnson and there can only be one winner in that scenario.
I prefer when players leave when we know they aren't good enough for Hibs and that wasn't the case with Mitchell. We moved him on when he was fit and part of that might have been the medical team being of the opinion that his being fit was likely to be temporary. If that was the case he is disproving that so far at Exeter.

McKirdy, Henderson, Cabraja and Doidge are four who are currently in danger of leaving under the not good enough moniker.

I'd happily see three of those four moved on. I'd probably keep Cabraja but again wouldn't be too disappointed if he left either.

[tonyrougier123]

Some players just love a signing on fee. Put just enough highlights together to get another move and repeat, his attitude must be terrible tbh. If I had one complaint from Jack Ross time in charge it would be the types of player we brought in,Mitchell being a strange one at the time for me. Very poor football brain,tactically unaware mis placed passes in good positions. There is a player there but application lacking. When we start regretting players doing well for Exeter city when we punt them time to Jack it in.

[PHeffernan]

Some players just love a signing on fee. Put just enough highlights together to get another move and repeat, his attitude must be terrible tbh. If I had one complaint from Jack Ross time in charge it would be the types of player we brought in,Mitchell being a strange one at the time for me. Very poor football brain,tactically unaware mis placed passes in good positions. There is a player there but application lacking. When we start regretting players doing well for Exeter city when we punt them time to Jack it in.

He was signed by Maloney.

[Unseen work]

Missed Exeter’s game last night with an injury….

[JohnM1875]

Missed Exeter’s game last night with an injury….

Wow. What a shock!