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matty_f
17-03-2023, 03:26 PM
If you were handed control of the club, what would your plan be to make us successful (assuming you're not a multimillionaire)?
What would you change?
Mon Dieu4
17-03-2023, 03:28 PM
Play myself in an attacking midfield role, I'd also be on all corners, pens and free kicks, oh aye and id be manager as well, people thought Vlad was mental, you ain't seen nothing yet if I had the cash to buy Hibs
I think we are there or there abouts and on the right track, off the field then everything is fairly rosey, the only part we are lacking in is on the pitch and hopefully we will start to see that come together a bit more in the next season
ErinGoBraghHFC
17-03-2023, 03:35 PM
Hire the guys that design Venezia’s strips to design ours, boost the revenue through shirt sales to folk that drink espresso’s and craft beer. Declare Easter road as an independent republic and tap into that “rebel/ethical/whatever the **** they want to call it” club market. Bring back Jorge Claros.
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Hibs4185
17-03-2023, 03:48 PM
I’d do more local advertising and schmooze the business community more.
Lots of new people arriving in Edinburgh every year, try and reach those people first.
Engage with schools, colleges and uni’s more to attract the future generations.
Ensure we had the best youth academy.
Give fans a chance to own a certain percentage. Bigger fan ownership so fans are more engaged.
And the usual, fill the corners in, helipad, bigger TV’s etc
cameronw-hfc
17-03-2023, 03:53 PM
I'd speak to Brighton and try get the blueprint for their manager and player scouting, then set us up like that. They almost never miss nowadays, managers or players.
The Modfather
17-03-2023, 04:36 PM
If you were handed control of the club, what would your plan be to make us successful (assuming you're not a multimillionaire)?
What would you change?
Probably something similar to Ron’s intended plan, but hopefully implemented more successfully.
Increase the commercial side of the club - Ron achieved this
Have our academy as the heartbeat and philosophy of the club. With managers tasked with bringing through and playing youngsters as part of how their performance is measured. With realistic expectations set that bringing through youngsters often means short term pain before we see the benefits.
Have a DOF, or some such, set the philosophy throughout the club. Set a style of football, preferably something energetic and more Klopp like than the slow possession based modern football. A philosophy that is implemented from youth teams through to the first team. I’d also look for our DOF to visit clubs like Ajax, Benfica, Brighton, Brentford etc to see what we can learn and implement ourselves from what they do successfully. Managers would be hired to match our philosophy and importance of youth.
I’d also look to expand our youth recruitment, first try and put in place a network that gives us the best chance of winning a sales pitch with the best, 14/15/16 year old throughout Scotland. A bit like how Hamilton have signed so many players who have gone into bigger things as they can make the case they will get chances their that they won’t at other clubs. Then look to see how practical it is for setting up a network in foreign markets that have value. Much like the success Celtc have had with the Japanese market, but on a smaller scale. How easy or practical that is in reality is up for debate or everyone would be doing it. Although there is often a lack of imagination in Scottish football.
Fuzzywuzzy
17-03-2023, 04:43 PM
Bring in an internationalist from India, Pakistan, Thailand, nepal and Iran. Get TV rights sold, shirt sales go mental. Jobs a good 'un
I'd start a Hibs Supporters membership group called The Family.
All the different types of membership would then be a subset of that such as the away ticket scheme, season tickets, Hibs kids, access to the different hospitality areas. Bring in the branches and leave the HSA to run Sunnyside.
ErinGoBraghHFC
17-03-2023, 05:02 PM
Bring in an internationalist from India, Pakistan, Thailand, nepal and Iran. Get TV rights sold, shirt sales go mental. Jobs a good 'un
Actually not an awful idea, very 00’s Man Utd
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gbhibby
17-03-2023, 05:25 PM
If you were handed control of the club, what would your plan be to make us successful (assuming you're not a multimillionaire)?
What would you change?
Sack the management team and recruit all the hibs netters as we are the best football experts around,job done.😁
CockneyRebel
17-03-2023, 05:56 PM
Sack the management team and recruit all the hibs netters as we are the best football experts around,job done.😁
Hey! I'm the only expert on here.
Pedantic_Hibee
17-03-2023, 06:22 PM
Free Hibs kit for all newborn babies.
ErinGoBraghHFC
17-03-2023, 07:01 PM
Free Hibs kit for all newborn babies.
Works for Atalanta and Athletic Bilbao as one club cities, don’t think it’d work in Edinburgh though tbh
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Irish_Steve
17-03-2023, 07:01 PM
I'd make all the seats in the South Stand ejector seats and then have hours of fun pinging Huns/Celtc/Fartz fans out of the ground
gbhibby
17-03-2023, 07:15 PM
I'd make all the seats in the South Stand ejector seats and then have hours of fun pinging Huns/Celtc/Fartz fans out of the ground
Hullo Hullo, Goodbye Goodbye.
Irish_Steve
17-03-2023, 07:33 PM
Hullo Hullo, Goodbye Goodbye.
:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin
10 second countdown on the big screen
gbhibby
17-03-2023, 07:48 PM
:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin
10 second countdown on the big screenhttps://youtu.be/M2dhD9zR6hk
This would be apt.
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Greencore
17-03-2023, 08:46 PM
I'd buy hibs, tell promises of us winning the champions league in 5 years and hire and sack our manager almost every 2 months. Run up a massive debt and then go into hiding.
Henderson2Del
17-03-2023, 09:16 PM
Do a thorough analysis on spend and benefit and then realign the spend far more focussed into the first team. I’d seriously question the value of certain parts of the club, what they return and why they should continue to get funding. That would involve a very serious look at the spend on the academy and the women’s side.
Continue the good work of the commercial team and hope that both of the above would self propel the cycle of more spend , better, players, better results, bigger crowds, and the cycle self perpetuates.
Good recruiting is even more vital
HibeeMackenzie
17-03-2023, 09:22 PM
Sign two Moroccans and a classy French sitting midfielder
PatHead
17-03-2023, 09:28 PM
Build a heliport
Mibbes Aye
17-03-2023, 11:15 PM
Works for Atalanta and Athletic Bilbao as one club cities, don’t think it’d work in Edinburgh though tbh
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Fair point. We should allow an exchange so they can wear FC Edinburgh tops if they really must.
Mibbes Aye
17-03-2023, 11:27 PM
If you were handed control of the club, what would your plan be to make us successful (assuming you're not a multimillionaire)?
What would you change?
It is of course a good question and maybe no surprise that many responses feel like we are on the right track.
To become more successful, then I think it is as simple as improving the quality of the squad. That means increasing the revenue budget, as the market favours the seller (the player).
As success isn’t a straightforward function of spending more, but rather a general long-term trend, then we have to increase our playing budget in a way that can be maintained without the need to rely on windfalls or guaranteed league placings and cup runs every year, consistently.
The only two routes to that are better TV money on a recurring basis, or the fans putting more in. Anything else is either limited or windfall.
TV money is not entirely in our control, unless the rules changed to allow PPV. Nevertheless that could be a way forward.
More fan funding is risky because of the chance of fluctuation if results don’t go as well as hoped over a season, but in truth the FOH model would serve us well. As others have pointed out on here, once it is set up as a direct debit, it is harder to notice it coming off.
NAE NOOKIE
17-03-2023, 11:37 PM
Seriously don't know. In the end money talks and you can go on all you like about increasing revenue and stuff, but increase revenues to make us financially competitive with Celtic and the The Rangers? .... you wouldn't be able to see the green in our strip for the number of advertisers we would need on it.
Folk can go on about the academy all they want, but the truth is we simply couldn't generate enough first team quality players and even if we did how do we hold on to them? ... FFS we can't even hold on to Ethan Laidlaw, refusing to sign a new contract before he's barely kicked a baw for the first team coz he's likely to get offers from England.
Mind, it depends on what you quantify as 'success' .... a season where we win a cup is a success. A season where we make the top 4 is a success, a season where we qualified for a European group stage would be a major success. A season where we won the league would be a miracle.
I still think a major strategy would be actually making this club fun to support. Encourage folk like block 7 by making a proper standing area behind the goals, reinstate a supporters bar you don't have to fork out £100 to get in and stop kicking games off at 12 sodding 30 when we don't have to. Encourage folk to wear colours to the games ... maybe a £100 prize at every game for a person picked at random wearing a strip or scarf in the crowd.
Do whatever you can to make folk feel part of the club rather than just a source of income ... I think Hibs have certainly fallen short recently when it comes to that.
Phil MaGlass
18-03-2023, 07:18 AM
Probably pay for a massive advertising board at the arrivals at Erinburgh airport. Like the Famous Grouse add they have.
Get round the local schools and give away a couple of thousand tickets so kids can fiĺl the ground.
Give tickets away at food banks?
Not In The Know
18-03-2023, 07:59 AM
Free season tickets. But every match you miss you pay 50 quid.
seriously ramp up the match day offering eg kiosk sales and fan pubs.
Northernhibee
18-03-2023, 08:03 AM
I’d hire someone whose job is to empty all of the bins at ER and HTC, and then take the binbags straight down to Tynie and throw them over the walls there.
S4uzee
18-03-2023, 08:33 AM
Change those corners to the upper of the FF and south stands!
bordergreen
18-03-2023, 09:04 AM
I'd start a Hibs Supporters membership group called The Family.
All the different types of membership would then be a subset of that such as the away ticket scheme, season tickets, Hibs kids, access to the different hospitality areas. Bring in the branches and leave the HSA to run Sunnyside.
I think you will find there was already a Hibs Supporters membership group called The Family. Established in the 80's...
Gerard
18-03-2023, 02:37 PM
Extend the trams to ER .🍩🥞🌈🌎🐈*⬛⛑️🎓👍
Steven79
18-03-2023, 02:53 PM
Free season tickets. But every match you miss you pay 50 quid.
seriously ramp up the match day offering eg kiosk sales and fan pubs.Those in the FFL would owe a fair but by time the season ends...
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Hibrandenburg
18-03-2023, 03:02 PM
I'd make a rotating 4 year plan with the aim of achieving success every 4 years. Buy in some quality players over 3 years and nurture some youth talent and try and get them to peak in year 4 before selling them off and then start the whole process over again.
hibbydog
19-03-2023, 09:09 AM
I’d stick with Lee Johnson for a few years. We’re always hearing about how we need stability but we’ve never tried it.
MWHIBBIES
19-03-2023, 09:47 AM
I don't think Hibs truly can be a success. Scottish football doesn't allow anyone other than Rangers and Celtic to do that.
heretoday
19-03-2023, 10:31 AM
Amalgamate with Hearts and build a super stadium near Straiton.
Or perhaps not.😎
Donegal Hibby
19-03-2023, 10:54 AM
I’d stick with Lee Johnson for a few years. We’re always hearing about how we need stability but we’ve never tried it.
:agree:
HUTCHYHIBBY
19-03-2023, 11:20 AM
I don't think Hibs truly can be a success. Scottish football doesn't allow anyone other than Rangers and Celtic to do that.
Unfortunately I've got to agree.
Salisbury Hibby
19-03-2023, 02:12 PM
Tongue in cheek, but join the English League and invest in getting into The Premiership.
Then hump Rangers, Celtic & Hearts if we meet in Europe.
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matty_f
19-03-2023, 03:26 PM
Haven’t really thought this idea through (standard) but the SPFL is run by the clubs, so, presumably can be sold by the clubs?
I think for anything to change meaningfully, we have to try something completely radical.
Wrexham were bought over by Ryan Reynolds and that other guy that nobody remembers, they’ve gained a worldwide fanbase as a result (albeit not on the scale of Man U etc, but it’s accurate to say that their profile has risen to an unimaginable level.).
Salford have benefited from the interest in having superstar owners and Phil Neville.
You could conceivably sell the SPFL “franchise” to (for example) Amazon Prime, or super-wealthy group, or an emerging broadcaster looking to disrupt the status quo.
With that, participating clubs agree to be funded predominantly from a central pot, income can be distributed from prize money but the league is responsible for funding players. No club starts the season with a competitive advantage for being wealthy.
The broadcaster/owner provides enough money to attract players at a level no Scottish club can attract at the moment, but not just for Rangers and Celtic. Clubs can trade players but profits from sales go back to the league.
They lobby the relevant government to greatly relax work permit rules to support attracting talent from markets that could greatly benefit TV right sales, and Scottish talent is supported through a centrally run Academy with a US-style draft system and a requirement for a minimum number of home grown players per club per game.
The broadcaster gets full access to all clubs to record the story of the new league in an “All Or Nothing” style documentary.
Significant investment is made into stadiums for all top flight teams to ensure that ticket prices are capped (so stadiums are full) and artificial surfaces are outlawed.
There’s a minimum requirement for clubs to have facilities for a minimum number of TV cameras that can broadcast and stream at ultra high definition and the expectation is that all games are presented to the sort of level we expect from EPL games broadcast by Sky.
TV rights to what is now the most competitive top quality league in the world (probably) are sold globally.
The increase in quality means Scottish clubs can compete meaningfully in Europe, increasing exposure and revenue for the league.
Obviously club owners would want to be making money so the league can’t take *all* the income, and an independent body would be established to ensure all clubs receive fundamentally equal treatment.
And referees are full time.
Not In The Know
19-03-2023, 03:34 PM
Those in the FFL would owe a fair but by time the season ends...
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or would they ;-)
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