The negativity thread

[Hibbyradge]

There's not been much opportunity to complain about all things Hibs recently so the forum just isn't what it used to be only a matter of weeks ago.

In order to rectify that in a small way, I thought I'd give people a thread to post about the negatives in our performances instead of waxing lyrical about the good things.

I'll start.

Our 2nd, 3rd and 4th goals were lucky so the game should have been drawn.

[wookie70]

I have the same complaint as LJ. Youan needs to get the ball away much quicker. I also think we are miles away from putting everything together in a 90 minute performance and we have room to get a good bit better.

[Ronniekirk]

Nisbet didn’t score , Stevenson didn’t get game time despite being a Hibs Legend Nine men Livi looked like they had extra man as they sprayed the ball about , all to no avail :na na::na na:

[Gmack7]

I lost my illegal stream for a few minutes in the 2nd half,

[Ringothedog]

I lost my illegal stream for a few minutes in the 2nd half,

I couldn’t get into the Wetherspoons for a pint before the game

[Hibbyradge]

I couldn’t get into the Wetherspoons for a pint before the game

This is the negativity thread! :grr:

[Fergus52]

Still not convinced by hoppe, gets bullied a lot by big defenders and doesn't look too comfortable running with the ball to me.

While CJ and jeggo have worked well together recently when we've been playing pretty direct - I'm a bit worried about them as a pairing if we need to hang on the ball a bit, slow things down and keep possession during a game. From what I've seen I don't think either are great under pressure, or have the composure or technique to play out of tight spaces, both of them tend to rush things when pressed (think Newell being back will help this, though I wouldn't put him back in the team just yet).

[Hibernian Verse]

Still not convinced by hoppe, gets bullied a lot by big defenders and doesn't look too comfortable running with the ball to me.

While CJ and jeggo have worked well together recently when we've been playing pretty direct - I'm a bit worried about them as a pairing if we need to hang on the ball a bit, slow things down and keep possession during a game. From what I've seen I don't think either are great under pressure, or have the composure or technique to play out of tight spaces, both of them tend to rush things when pressed (think Newell being back will help this, though I wouldn't put him back in the team just yet).

Agree re Jeggo but not sure which Egan Riley you’ve been watching?!

[B.H.F.C]

Still not convinced by hoppe, gets bullied a lot by big defenders and doesn't look too comfortable running with the ball to me.

While CJ and jeggo have worked well together recently when we've been playing pretty direct - I'm a bit worried about them as a pairing if we need to hang on the ball a bit, slow things down and keep possession during a game. From what I've seen I don't think either are great under pressure, or have the composure or technique to play out of tight spaces, both of them tend to rush things when pressed (think Newell being back will help this, though I wouldn't put him back in the team just yet).

Egan-Riley looks as comfortable as anyone in our squad on the ball. Happy to play with both feet. Less touches, more efficient for me.

[BoomtownHibees]

Still not convinced by hoppe, gets bullied a lot by big defenders and doesn't look too comfortable running with the ball to me.

While CJ and jeggo have worked well together recently when we've been playing pretty direct - I'm a bit worried about them as a pairing if we need to hang on the ball a bit, slow things down and keep possession during a game. From what I've seen I don't think either are great under pressure, or have the composure or technique to play out of tight spaces, both of them tend to rush things when pressed (think Newell being back will help this, though I wouldn't put him back in the team just yet).

You getting Egan Riley mixed up with someone else?

[Fergus52]

Egan-Riley looks as comfortable as anyone in our squad on the ball. Happy to play with both feet. Less touches, more efficient for me.

He's been playing really well and has made some great tackles and interceptions and done the simple things well on the ball.

But I honestly don't think he's looked that comfortable when pressed - been a couple of times recently I've thought he's rushed the play, or smashed at a bouncing 50/50 ball in situations where a more composed player with better technique could take a touch into space keeping us with controlled possession.

He's been good but I can't think of any specific moments when playing cente mid against Livi or Killie where he's particularly impressed me with his first touch, dribbling or passing ability.

And I don't think playing two primarily ball winning type centre mids as a pivot is a good mid-to-long term solution - but if they get us third playing together I'll gladly admit I was wrong :greengrin

[Ringothedog]

This is the negativity thread! :grr:

😂

[SaulGoodman]

Another game won because the other team had sendings off.

[NAE NOOKIE]

The negativity on here is of a poor standard, surely we need to talk about off the pitch too, we need a full spectrum of negativity for this to work. That's right, I'm being negative about the negativity thread :greengrin

Even based on yesterday's game we make far too many unforced errors with misplaced passes and poor decision making, at least three times a better through ball would have put us in on goal but the pass was under or over hit ... knock even 20% off that stat and we will be a far better team. There were a few folk praising Cadden on the 'this is how it feels' thread, but IMO for all that he did drive us forward his use of the ball in the final third was poor, about half the time he got himself one on one the ball didn't even come into the box, he has to do better IMO. Youan frustrates as well, once you've beaten a guy you don't have to beat him again plus three more ... once you make the space either shoot or pass the bloody thing mate.

We could be a much better team than we are with the players we currently have ... they have it in them.

As for off the pitch:

£28 for any Scottish football match is too much ... £25 max IMO.

Block 7 simply have to be in the FF lower ... when will this no brainer be addressed ???

We need a supporters bar in the FF

At some point we absolutely need the end stands extended by about 7 metres to overlap with the East and then the FF / East and East / South corners filled in ... it doesn't have to be with seats ... Easter Road at that point would be unarguably the third best stadium in Scotland, even after Aberdeen build their long awaited fantasy stadium. OK not happening just now, but it simply has to be on the long term agenda.

We need an indoor full sized training facility at East Mains.

STILL no helipad :grr:

Anyway ... the whole lot shouldn't cost any more than £20,000,000 so I don't see what the problem is :bitchy:

Oh, I forgot ... extend the roofs of the FF, South and East stands to within a foot of the by lines and east side touchline ...... I'll revise my final costing to £21,000,000 :greengrin

[SJNB Hibby]

The negativity on here is of a poor standard, surely we need to talk about off the pitch too, we need a full spectrum of negativity for this to work. That's right, I'm being negative about the negativity thread :greengrin

Even based on yesterday's game we make far too many unforced errors with misplaced passes and poor decision making, at least three times a better through ball would have put us in on goal but the pass was under or over hit ... knock even 20% off that stat and we will be a far better team. There were a few folk praising Cadden on the 'this is how it feels' thread, but IMO for all that he did drive us forward his use of the ball in the final third was poor, about half the time he got himself one on one the ball didn't even come into the box, he has to do better IMO. Youan frustrates as well, once you've beaten a guy you don't have to beat him again plus three more ... once you make the space either shoot or pass the bloody thing mate.

We could be a much better team than we are with the players we currently have ... they have it in them.

As for off the pitch:

£28 for any Scottish football match is too much ... £25 max IMO.


Block 7 simply have to be in the FF lower ... when will this no brainer be addressed ???

We need a supporters bar in the FF

At some point we absolutely need the end stands extended by about 7 metres to overlap with the East and then the FF / East and East / South corners filled in ... it doesn't have to be with seats ... Easter Road at that point would be unarguably the third best stadium in Scotland, even after Aberdeen build their long awaited fantasy stadium. OK not happening just now, but it simply has to be on the long term agenda.

We need an indoor full sized training facility at East Mains.

STILL no helipad :grr:

Anyway ... the whole lot shouldn't cost any more than £20,000,000 so I don't see what the problem is :bitchy:

Oh, I forgot ... extend the roofs of the FF, South and East stands to within a foot of the by lines and east side touchline ...... I'll revise my final costing to £21,000,000 :greengrin

I get real negative feelings when I come onto the negativity thread and read that people are complaining about not being negative enough.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Still no free buckfast and coke, ****ing scandalous. More proof the club don’t care about us.


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[NAE NOOKIE]

I get real negative feelings when I come onto the negativity thread and read that people are complaining about not being negative enough.

At this club we should be giving 110% to everything we do if we want to succeed ... there's no place at Hibs for half hearted negativity IMO :greengrin

[Keith_M]

A group of guys calling themselves Block 7 are actually located in Block (section) 45.

I mean, what's that all about?

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

At this club we should be giving 110% to everything we do if we want to succeed ... there's no place at Hibs for half hearted negativity IMO :greengrin

Agreed, uphold the standards that matter [emoji6]


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[Hibbyradge]

A group of guys calling themselves Block 7 are actually located in Block (section) 45.

I mean, what's that all about?

Fine margins.

[CapitalGreen]

He's been playing really well and has made some great tackles and interceptions and done the simple things well on the ball.

But I honestly don't think he's looked that comfortable when pressed - been a couple of times recently I've thought he's rushed the play, or smashed at a bouncing 50/50 ball in situations where a more composed player with better technique could take a touch into space keeping us with controlled possession.

He's been good but I can't think of any specific moments when playing cente mid against Livi or Killie where he's particularly impressed me with his first touch, dribbling or passing ability.

And I don't think playing two primarily ball winning type centre mids as a pivot is a good mid-to-long term solution - but if they get us third playing together I'll gladly admit I was wrong :greengrin

Among the currently available centre mids* he has:

Highest short pass accuracy: 91%
Highest long ball accuracy: 54%
Highest dribble success: 66% (2.1 p90 - highest)
Lowest unsuccessful touches p90: 0.5

*Campbell, Egan-Riley, Henderson, Jeggo, Magennis, Newell

[Hibbyradge]

Among the currently available centre mids* he has:

Highest short pass accuracy: 91%
Highest long ball accuracy: 54%
Highest dribble success: 66% (2.1 p90 - highest)
Lowest unsuccessful touches p90: 0.5

*Campbell, Egan-Riley, Henderson, Jeggo, Magennis, Newell

You're ruining a perfectly good thread!

[cameronw-hfc]

Was at the livi stadium about half 1 as the kids I coach had a game in the training pitch. Not made it to many games recently so was going to head in until I realised it would be nearly 60 quid for me and the mrs, not including travel home and food etc.

Mental prices, 20s plenty.

[lyonhibs]

I will hopefully have no reason to contribute to this thread at 10pm on Wednesday, but I'm working on a few belters just in case.

[HiBremian]

Prawn and Cucumber sandwiches at the Spaghettihad were tasteless.

(Admins, feel free to shunt this on to the West Stand negativity thread).

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[KeithTheHibby]

I was raging we only scored 1 more goal playing against 9 men, shambles Hibs.

[Hibbyradge]

Ruining a dreadful thread.

:faf:

[hibbie02]

Still no one brought in to do the Matty Jack role....

[Fergus52]

Among the currently available centre mids* he has:

Highest short pass accuracy: 91%
Highest long ball accuracy: 54%
Highest dribble success: 66% (2.1 p90 - highest)
Lowest unsuccessful touches p90: 0.5

*Campbell, Egan-Riley, Henderson, Jeggo, Magennis, Newell

I'm impressed and surprised by the dribbling stat, so fair play on that one - genuinely couldn't remember him beating a man with the ball one on one that often.

I don't think the other stats really contradict anything I've said though - they show he's been doing simple things on the ball well which I gave him credit for. A sample size of 3 games vs a sample size of 20+ games make the per 90 stats meaningless though when comparing to other players in the squad.

To provide some other numbers for balance: his key passes per 90 is one of the lowest in the squad and the lowest of all our midfielders (showing that he does simple passes well but isn't going to rack up any assists) and he gets dispossessed more times per game than any other central midfielder we have.

I don't think him and Jeggo have enough between them creatively or going forward in general, and would like to see one of them next to Newell or Magennis (assuming Campbell keeps playing as a 10). Although if we keep winning games by going direct and playing with two sitting midfielders then I won't be complaining.

[G15 Hibs]

Something about pie queues

[jacomo]

Still no one brought in to do the Matty Jack role....


Things were better when he was around, that’s for sure.

[PatHead]

Going to my second game of the season tonight and it's freezing.

[#2 Double Tap]

Going to my second game of the season tonight and it's freezing.

hope we won the first one, or u can just gtf :greengrin

[Hibrandenburg]

This thread is riddled with Hibbies.

[Fergus52]

Say what you want about jdh and Newell but they know how to keep the ball when a player is within 5 yards of them.

Jeggo CJ and Campbell all atrocious tonight. The 3 of them just punting it under any hint of pressure, losing the ball in dangerous areas and creating nothing.

[Jones28]

Thank ****, now we can really get this thread motoring.

[Callum_62]

Thank ****, now we can really get this thread motoring.It's gonna be flying now [emoji23][emoji23]

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[A Hi-Bee]

1-4 is about as negative as it gets.

[Ronniekirk]

1-4 is about as negative as it gets.
The positive is it could of been far more

[Callum_62]

The positive is it could of been far moreGet that filth off this thread! [emoji6]

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[IberianHibernian]

Say what you want about jdh and Newell but they know how to keep the ball when a player is within 5 yards of them.

Jeggo CJ and Campbell all atrocious tonight. The 3 of them just punting it under any hint of pressure, losing the ball in dangerous areas and creating nothing.I think we have certainly missed JDH this season . He was improving last season and would probably have continued to do so this season with Maloney or even with LJ if fitness has been reason for not playing more .

[A Hi-Bee]

The positive is it could of been far more
:greengrin:greengrin:thumbsup:

[lyonhibs]

I will hopefully have no reason to contribute to this thread at 10pm on Wednesday, but I'm working on a few belters just in case.

Well, well, well. Hibs fairly delivered this time.

1st goal, idiotic superman lunge sliding tackle. Hate to see them full stop, especially in the box against a tricky little **** like Kent. A penalty all day.

2nd goal, rank touch from Youan, good movement from Colak.

3rd goal, stinking clearance from Marshall, my wife can probably kick a ball further

4th goal, look how many Hibs players are in the box when it goes in. 8 maybe. All too terrified, **** and/or lazy to defend properly, never mind actually put a tackle in.

Grim stuff to not lay a glove on the OF at home again. One wonders what LJ team talk consists of before these games.

[Ronniekirk]

Celtic Next up Should see lots of goals in this game !!!