Players on loan at Hibs

[Donegal Hibby]

Thought this was a positive article about players we have on loan . Great to see our club showing ambition by trying to keep some of these players.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-having-conversations-about-future-of-easter-road-loan-players-4037563

[King Cosell]

Thought this was a positive article about players we have on loan . Great to see our club showing ambition by trying to keep some of these players.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-having-conversations-about-future-of-easter-road-loan-players-4037563

Think there's a good chance we keep Myko, Fish might stay for another 6 months/year, Hoppe could depend on whether or not Boro get promoted, 90% sure CJ will go back to Burnley.

[Ronniekirk]

If fish and C J and Hoppe all keep playing and in form it’s odds on they will then be loaned out at a higher level of Their clubs don’t think they are yet ready to get first team action with them That's what these teams do ,keep developing players at higher levels
Given the Ukranian guy has been out injured fir so long we might get him on another six month loan
of Devlin can get fit enough to play and prove himself ,and stay injury free we will sign him on a permanent deal
The positive aspect is this window the recruitment team ,selection committee or whatever is now in place. Has done a good job So hopefully if we need loan players for next season thst continues and we get them on a season loan

[Bayern Bru]

If fish and C J and Hoppe all keep playing and in form it’s odds on they will then be loaned out at a higher level of Their clubs don’t think they are yet tardy to get first team action with them That's what these teams do ,keep developing players at higher levels
Given the Ukranian guy has been out injured fir so long we might get him on another six month loan
of Devlin can get fit enough to play and prove himself ,and stay injury free we will sign him on a permanent deal
The positive aspect is this window the recruitment team ,selection committee or whatever is now in place. Has done a good job So hopefully if we need loan players for next season thst continues and we get them on a season loan

Devlin is already on a permanent deal. Just until the summer right enough but he's a Hibs player.

[number9dream]

If fish and C J and Hoppe all keep playing and in form it’s odds on they will then be loaned out at a higher level of Their clubs don’t think they are yet tardy to get first team action with them That's what these teams do ,keep developing players at higher levels
Given the Ukranian guy has been out injured fir so long we might get him on another six month loan
of Devlin can get fit enough to play and prove himself ,and stay injury free we will sign him on a permanent deal
The positive aspect is this window the recruitment team ,selection committee or whatever is now in place. Has done a good job So hopefully if we need loan players for next season thst continues and we get them on a season loan

Yes, highly likely. Burnley are heading back to the PL and Boro may join them. In that case, it's easy to see CJ, Hoppe and Fish going to Championship clubs to see if they can make the 'next step'. I don't suppose we could buy any of those three and match wages.
Fingers crossed for Youan and maybe Myko too.

[Donegal Hibby]

Think there's a good chance we keep Myko, Fish might stay for another 6 months/year, Hoppe could depend on whether or not Boro get promoted, 90% sure CJ will go back to Burnley.
Hopefully we sign Youan on a permanent contract . I read Mykola's current club had 6 or 7 strikers at it when we loaned him in first so probably have a good chance with him . United might want to loan Fish out to a championship club though he's improving and getting game time at us so who knows there . I agree it might depend on Boro getting promoted or not with Hoppe. CJ just can't see us getting him for any longer than we have him for now . I suppose the two I'd most like to keep would be Youan and Fish

[hibsforeurope]

I think if we're in European group stages it would stand us in good stead to at least get Fish and CJ back on loan next season. Sure Burnley have had £1m offers in already so not sure we can get near that.

If we can get any of the forwards signed up permanently that would be decent business but no idea of their values.

All if's and But's but sounds like they are actually planning in advance for a window for a change, earlier season ticket deadlines will help massively with this.

[Brightside]

Its a bit of a nothing article tbh. As others have said if they are in form they will move off to clubs at higher levels.

[NAE NOOKIE]

What cannot be an ongoing situation is an over reliance on loan players, last Saturday we finished the game with nearly half of our outfield players loan signings and they were all integral to a good performance. I appreciate the loss of a number of key players throughout the season to injury and in Porto's case being transferred has to a large extent caused this situation, but it's not one that can in any way be viewed as part of a strategy for sustained success.

At best IMO we should never have more than two loan players integral to the team. If so many loans was part of an actual ongoing strategy then what you have is a manager having to practically rebuild the team every summer, how that could lead to a sustained period of success is beyond me.

Yes you can look at loans with an option to buy, but if that option is 750K as is alleged with Youan then exactly how often can we match our all time record transfer fee?

[Scouse Hibee]

Loan players are one the major problems in my opinion. Yes we had some very decent players on loan and have managed to find a couple of gems this time around too but it does nothing for the continuity of the team and adds to the feeling that we are constantly rebuilding.

[GRA]

Loan players are one the major problems in my opinion. Yes we had some very decent players on loan and have managed to find a couple of gems this time around too but it does nothing for the continuity of the team and adds to the feeling that we are constantly rebuilding.

Agree to an extent but for a club like Hibs probably the least risky option, as we'd never be able to afford the likes of CJ permanently and can easily punt the duds. Can you imagine if we tied down the likes of Bojang on a 4 year deal?..

[Partyraiser]

Yes, highly likely. Burnley are heading back to the PL and Boro may join them. In that case, it's easy to see CJ, Hoppe and Fish going to Championship clubs to see if they can make the 'next step'. I don't suppose we could buy any of those three and match wages.
Fingers crossed for Youan and maybe Myko too.

I know someone who's friends with Fish's family. When I said to him that Will had turned round fan opinion and people now wanted him signed on a perm he burst out laughing. Don't think we could afford to match what he's on without him taking a pay-cut. I'd be happy to get him for another 12 months though.

[NAE NOOKIE]

I know someone who's friends with Fish's family. When I said to him that Will had turned round fan opinion and people now wanted him signed on a perm he burst out laughing. Don't think we could afford to match what he's on without him taking a pay-cut. I'd be happy to get him for another 12 months though.

I once watched a documentary about young players, years ago, and in that documentary two 16 year olds were signing full time contracts at Spurs on a wage of £2000 a month each. You can only imagine what a 20 year old on a five year contract at Man United is on, he's probably the best paid player at Hibs ... simply no chance Hibs will hold on to him.

[Donegal Hibby]

I use to not like loan signings though have changed my opinion on them in recent years. The 5 loan signings we have are quality players and some of them wouldn't be playing for us if it hadn't been for loan deals , they have improved our team greatly since .

Loan signings like Youan are very good as they gave you time to see if the players good enough and if they can settle into a new country with a option to buy if all goes well. I keep hearing a fee of £750,000 for Youan , where is this coming from btw ? . When Hibs got Youan on loan and with the option to buy we would have the fee already agreed and it won't be something we can't afford.

I don't know what will be the outcome of Fish , CJ , Mykola or Hoppe staying though if they don't it is far easier to recruit players in the summer than in January and I'm glad of the 5 loan signings we have now and think the club trying to explore the options of retaining them show's good ambition from our club.

[Johnny_Leith]

EEN's Pat McPartlin saying Youans fee isn't as high as £750k.

[Iain G]

EEN's Pat McPartlin saying Youans fee isn't as high as £750k.

£749, 999.99 maybe? :greengrin

[basehibby]

I know someone who's friends with Fish's family. When I said to him that Will had turned round fan opinion and people now wanted him signed on a perm he burst out laughing. Don't think we could afford to match what he's on without him taking a pay-cut. I'd be happy to get him for another 12 months though.

We have taken players from Man U reserves before now - Mikey Stewart and Grant Brebner spring to mind. I suppose much depends on how players see their careers panning out - most with any ambition will want to play regular 1st team football and if the door is not open at their parent club will consider other options.
Money matters but it won't be the only priority for most players.

[worcesterhibby]

We have taken players from Man U reserves before now - Mikey Stewart and Grant Brebner spring to mind. I suppose much depends on how players see their careers panning out - most with any ambition will want to play regular 1st team football and if the door is not open at their parent club will consider other options.
Money matters but it won't be the only priority for most players.

Sir David played for Man United's first team too (once, in the league cup :greengrin played 77 minutes in a 2-1 victory over Crewe)

[007]

Sir David played for Man United's first team too (once, in the league cup :greengrin played 77 minutes in a 2-1 victory over Crewe)

https://youtu.be/OLXCV7e2kCQ

Nearly gives it away in the build up to the 1st, nowhere to be seen at the Crewe equaliser..... 😀 Good job he never got a 2nd game as who knows how it might have changed his career path.

[pacorosssco]

I once watched a documentary about young players, years ago, and in that documentary two 16 year olds were signing full time contracts at Spurs on a wage of £2000 a month each. You can only imagine what a 20 year old on a five year contract at Man United is on, he's probably the best paid player at Hibs ... simply no chance Hibs will hold on to him.

Think Gary mason ex Dunfermline was making crazy a week at man city circa 1997 and no first team football.

[McD]

We have taken players from Man U reserves before now - Mikey Stewart and Grant Brebner spring to mind. I suppose much depends on how players see their careers panning out - most with any ambition will want to play regular 1st team football and if the door is not open at their parent club will consider other options.
Money matters but it won't be the only priority for most players.


Fish himself will have input too. If he’s enjoyed his time here, feels like he’s contributing and getting on with his fellow players, and we can offer something decent money wise, he may want to return to us rather than taking his chances at a different club with a different manager, team mates and culture.

I think I read somewhere that he has 12 months left on his Man Utd deal after this season. A slight wage drop but a longer (say 3 year) deal with us, in an environment where he knows the manager trusts and values him, he’ll be a regular in the side, might be enough to tempt him to join permanently.

A lot of if’s and but’s, and no idea how much Man Utd would be amenable to selling at a price we can afford or loaning him to us again, but I don’t think it’s unthinkable that we could see him beyond this season.

of the 5 loan players, I’d say youan and fish are the most likely to be here longer. Myk really depends on whether he wants to be here and whether his club/city group would loan him out again, can’t see us purchasing both for the likely price and we’d not really have much time to see if he’s fully recovered from his injury. Hoppe will be unlikely perm given his transfer fee and the wages, although another loan might not be out the question. Egan-Reilly is another tough one, you’d think his wages and likely fee would make a permanent move unlikely, but maybe a loan. Hasn’t played much for Burnley so he want to get out and get game time, and by the end of the season could be in a similar position to what I’ve describe Fish as, although have a feeling he’d be more expensive to buy as he’s already moved for a decent fee

[brydekirk]

EEN's Pat McPartlin saying Youans fee isn't as high as £750k.

Valued at 700,000 euros

[pacorosssco]

Valued at 700,000 euros

Wasnt getting game where was and doubt wages at his club reflect that value of fee yet if we never negotiated potential transfer than at mercy of good form

[PHeffernan]

Valued at 700,000 euros

Is that from a good source or is it just the usual made up numbers by transfermarkt and similar sites.

[PHeffernan]

Fish himself will have input too. If he’s enjoyed his time here, feels like he’s contributing and getting on with his fellow players, and we can offer something decent money wise, he may want to return to us rather than taking his chances at a different club with a different manager, team mates and culture.

I think I read somewhere that he has 12 months left on his Man Utd deal after this season. A slight wage drop but a longer (say 3 year) deal with us, in an environment where he knows the manager trusts and values him, he’ll be a regular in the side, might be enough to tempt him to join permanently.

A lot of if’s and but’s, and no idea how much Man Utd would be amenable to selling at a price we can afford or loaning him to us again, but I don’t think it’s unthinkable that we could see him beyond this season.

of the 5 loan players, I’d say youan and fish are the most likely to be here longer. Myk really depends on whether he wants to be here and whether his club/city group would loan him out again, can’t see us purchasing both for the likely price and we’d not really have much time to see if he’s fully recovered from his injury. Hoppe will be unlikely perm given his transfer fee and the wages, although another loan might not be out the question. Egan-Reilly is another tough one, you’d think his wages and likely fee would make a permanent move unlikely, but maybe a loan. Hasn’t played much for Burnley so he want to get out and get game time, and by the end of the season could be in a similar position to what I’ve describe Fish as, although have a feeling he’d be more expensive to buy as he’s already moved for a decent fee

Fish has a contract at Man Utd until summer 2025 and the club have another year option.
We might be able to get him back until January given he is just getting started here. If he's doing well at that point Man Utd will look to move him to a Championship on loan.

[Hibbyradge]

£749, 999.99 maybe? :greengrin

With £0.01 add on after so many appearances.

[McD]

Fish has a contract at Man Utd until summer 2025 and the club have another year option.
We might be able to get him back until January given he is just getting started here. If he's doing well at that point Man Utd will look to move him to a Championship on loan.


that’s a bit of a bummer, just have to see what he and United have to say and go from there

[jacomo]

Loan players are one the major problems in my opinion. Yes we had some very decent players on loan and have managed to find a couple of gems this time around too but it does nothing for the continuity of the team and adds to the feeling that we are constantly rebuilding.


Stokes was on loan in 2016.

Sometimes it’s the only route for us to get the quality we want.

[Scouse Hibee]

Stokes was on loan in 2016.

Sometimes it’s the only route for us to get the quality we want.

I’m well aware of that, I realise why we do it and the short term benefits of it.

[Since452]

Loan players are one the major problems in my opinion. Yes we had some very decent players on loan and have managed to find a couple of gems this time around too but it does nothing for the continuity of the team and adds to the feeling that we are constantly rebuilding.

Yeah it's a fine line. CJ and Fish are players we could never afford to buy, but they improve the team. But as you say, it's positions we're going to have to fill again when they leave. If they improve us enough so that we qualify for Europe for instance then that will put us in a stronger position to replace them with better or perhaps even extend their loans.

I don't think you can ever have enough quality in the team so quite happy with the loans this season. I guess it's up to the recruitment team to keep on producing gems in the loan market and they deserve a lot of credit for that this season.