Edinburgh Roads

[Hibby Bairn]

For those of us living in Edinburgh we are all aware of the shocking state of the roads. From individual pot holes to whole stretches of carriageway the place is crumbling.

Whether driving a car or cycling a bike it is pretty much an experience of being bounced around, weaving in and out to avoid holes and becoming dangerous.

But does anyone know what the plan is for sorting it?

[Smartie]

For those of us living in Edinburgh we are all aware of the shocking state of the roads. From individual pot holes to whole stretches of carriageway the place is crumbling.

Whether driving a car or cycling a bike it is pretty much an experience of being bounced around, weaving in and out to avoid holes and becoming dangerous.

But does anyone know what the plan is for sorting it?

I was out and about in the car at the weekend (I’m not normally) and it’s not just Edinburgh - it’s horrendous in a lot of places in Scotland.

Not sure how this happened? Are the roads that much busier than they used to be? Are we really too skint to keep them in a decent state of repair? Is the weather likely to be causing them many more problems than it used to?

[hibsbollah]

My days of involvement with that fine municipal institution are now behind me :greengrin but there must be some Edinburgh Council employees on here who know what the plan is? I mean it’s no surprise to anyone, it’s been like this for years, only seems to be getting worse. There’s one pothole on my way home big enough to house a small family.

[Edina Street]

Some of the roads are a liability. Drove along Greendykes road the other day to drop something off, and I the pot holes were that bad that I was down to 1mph and on the opposite side of the road navigating my way around them. It makes it even worse when you have fragile goods in the back of your van.

[Hiber-nation]

I was out and about in the car at the weekend (I’m not normally) and it’s not just Edinburgh - it’s horrendous in a lot of places in Scotland.

Not sure how this happened? Are the roads that much busier than they used to be? Are we really too skint to keep them in a decent state of repair? Is the weather likely to be causing them many more problems than it used to?

Yep, criticising City of Edinburgh Council is like shooting fish in a bucket but the Lothians and Fife are as bad as was Paisley on Saturday.

Not sure about the weather theory - it's worse now than it was after the 2 big freezes of 2009 & 2010.

Funding is a huge problem obviously, using cheaper materials which just don't last long.

[Jack]

I thought Edinburgh roads were bad but then I was on a 21 to the infirmary. The last bit before the hospital itself was probably the worst town roads I've seen in my life! OK there's housing being built through that bit but there's no excuse for just how bad it is.

I don't know what budget the council has but I saw the other day £12m earmarked for pothole repair has been redirected to North Bridge because its much more expensive to repair than than they thought and there's more defects being found almost all the time.

[hibsbollah]

I thought Edinburgh roads were bad but then I was on a 21 to the infirmary. The last bit before the hospital itself was probably the worst town roads I've seen in my life! OK there's housing being built through that bit but there's no excuse for just how bad it is.

I don't know what budget the council has but I saw the other day £12m earmarked for pothole repair has been redirected to North Bridge because its much more expensive to repair than than they thought and there's more defects being found almost all the time.

George IV Bridge is really bad. Maybe they should take turns opening and closing, opening and closing both bridges George IV, North, in consecutive years? We’d be permanently gridlocked then.

[J-C]

No one has a clue what this bloody council have planned for Edinburgh's roads, it's been a disgrace for the past 10 years.

[Pretty Boy]

Newcraighall Road leading up to Fort Kinnaird is just dangerous now. There are huge potholes all over the carriageway. It's a road I'm on daily either in the car or on my bike and it just feels dangerous; on the bike you are bumping all over the place and have to watch for cars swerving to avoid the bigger holes, in the car you have to try and avoid the holes but be aware of bikes doing the same, it's an accident waiting to happen.

The issue there, and undoubtedly elsewhere, is it just wasn't a road built to withstand the volume of traffic now driving on it. Fort Kinnaird is one of the biggest retail parks in the UK and there have been hundreds, if not thousands, of new houses built in the locality over the last 5 years and beyond with many, many more already under construction or going through planning.

I suppose the issue councils face is if they do resurface busy thoroughfares and arterial routes they will be accused of encouraging car use, if they don't then it's neglecting infrastructure. When it becomes dangerous then surely there is only one option though.

[Bristolhibby]

You guys need wnaksy.

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3055612

I’ve got one down here on my way to my local Tesco. It’s not the pot holes per se, but the subsidence is crazy. It’s like I’m on a rollercoaster ride.

J

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I don't know what budget the council has but I saw the other day £12m earmarked for pothole repair has been redirected to North Bridge because its much more expensive to repair than than they thought and there's more defects being found almost all the time.

I was going to point this out too, doesn't seem too promising.

[overdrive]

I saw a post on Facebook earlier where the Councillor responsible for transport had posted a before and after photo bragging that a pothole by a kerb round a drain had been repaired or “made safe” within a couple of days of it being reported. The repair looked really shoddy and probably wouldn’t last all that long. There was vegetation growing around the pothole in the before photo that they hadn’t even bothered to remove before repairing it so was actually poking into the edge of the repair. It looked like it would have to be “repaired” again shortly. I wonder how much is wasted doing these shoddy temporary fixes multiple times rather than just spending a bit more up front to properly fix it.

[Mon Dieu4]

I saw a post on Facebook earlier where the Councillor responsible for transport had posted a before and after photo bragging that a pothole by a kerb round a drain had been repaired or “made safe” within a couple of days of it being reported. The repair looked really shoddy and probably wouldn’t last all that long. There was vegetation growing around the pothole in the before photo that they hadn’t even bothered to remove before repairing it so was actually poking into the edge of the repair. It looked like it would have to be “repaired” again shortly. I wonder how much is wasted doing these shoddy temporary fixes multiple times rather than just spending a bit more up front to properly fix it.

My mum reported a manhole on a road outside their house that was sinking, really dangerous for cars and pedestrians, she goes they are coming to fix it the next day, turns out all they did was come down and take a picture of it, month later and nothing has been done yet

[MartinfaePorty]

Not just Edinburgh. On my commute from Peebles into Edinburgh through Midlothian I'm constantly on the lookout for potholes. Got a puncture the other week near Auchendinnie, which is always a nightmare. Not sure if it's bad weather, poor repairs, heavy traffic or a combination of all 3.

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[James310]

I saw a post on Facebook earlier where the Councillor responsible for transport had posted a before and after photo bragging that a pothole by a kerb round a drain had been repaired or “made safe” within a couple of days of it being reported. The repair looked really shoddy and probably wouldn’t last all that long. There was vegetation growing around the pothole in the before photo that they hadn’t even bothered to remove before repairing it so was actually poking into the edge of the repair. It looked like it would have to be “repaired” again shortly. I wonder how much is wasted doing these shoddy temporary fixes multiple times rather than just spending a bit more up front to properly fix it.

I saw this as well, it was Labour Councillor Scott Arthur who is head of transport now I believe.

https://twitter.com/CllrScottArthur/status/1622181373967491072?t=6P28DDFDO5boxi81O6iA8w&s=19

Like you I thought the same, it will last no time at all. It's the same all over, the repair jobs last a matter of weeks in some cases and the problem is back again.

[Onceinawhile]

I was in Glasgow at the weekend and some of the roads around hampden, especially outside the asda were just an absolute shambles as well.

[Mon Dieu4]

My mum reported a manhole on a road outside their house that was sinking, really dangerous for cars and pedestrians, she goes they are coming to fix it the next day, turns out all they did was come down and take a picture of it, month later and nothing has been done yet

On the back of this I just asked my mum if she has heard back from them, she said they looked at the pictures and even though the manhole has sunk and the road around it is falling away, they deem it hasn't actually sunk enough to warrant them doing anything about it

Probably cost them more in compensation for someone's trip or wrecked car when it no doubt happens

[speedy_gonzales]

Like virtually every other department, roads are grossly underfunded.
My observations though, it's manholes & utility works/repairs that are failing mostly. I Drive through town all the time and I see gas/water/cable trenches that have been back filled/surfaced but not properly jointed in to the original road.
Poor communication between contractors, a few years ago Saughton Rd North was completely relaid from Dovecot down to Broomhouse. A couple of months later Scottish water dug it all back up and it now resembles a patchwork quilt.
Inadequate maintenance works, the council started to use top-dressing techniques to extend and protect surface lifetime. Basically drop a shed load of sticky gravel and let the traffic bed it in to the surface.
They've done something very similar on South Gyle Broadway & Woodhall Rd. Woodhall Rd was getting torn up within days of laying and the above mentioned Transport Convener has assured us it will be repaired/replaced at the contractors cost but has fell short of saying it will be at zero cost to the council.
Another observation, traffic in Edinburgh has increased by something like 35% over the last 20 years. Which is a significant increase, but when you consider the changes to motoring it might explain the high failure of road repairs. 20 years ago, I'd have considered something like a Ford Focus or VW Golf to be an average car. These cars have increased in weight by something like 20% over that time, but when you factor in that the average car is something more akin to an SUV, then add EV batteries in to the equation it's no wonder the roads are taking a beating!

[TrumpIsAPeado]

I'll tell you what the problem is. Rather than biting the bullet and investing a good chunk of money into our roads in one go, like countries across the rest of Europe have done, we instead spend as little as possible in the immediate term for roads that crumble to pieces shortly after. Only to then do it all over again. Hence crappy roads with pot holes and endless road works. Which ultimately ends up costing so much more in the long run, instead of just investing in roads that will last.

[hibsbollah]

Like virtually every other department, roads are grossly underfunded.
My observations though, it's manholes & utility works/repairs that are failing mostly. I Drive through town all the time and I see gas/water/cable trenches that have been back filled/surfaced but not properly jointed in to the original road.
Poor communication between contractors, a few years ago Saughton Rd North was completely relaid from Dovecot down to Broomhouse. A couple of months later Scottish water dug it all back up and it now resembles a patchwork quilt.
Inadequate maintenance works, the council started to use top-dressing techniques to extend and protect surface lifetime. Basically drop a shed load of sticky gravel and let the traffic bed it in to the surface.
They've done something very similar on South Gyle Broadway & Woodhall Rd. Woodhall Rd was getting torn up within days of laying and the above mentioned Transport Convener has assured us it will be repaired/replaced at the contractors cost but has fell short of saying it will be at zero cost to the council.
Another observation, traffic in Edinburgh has increased by something like 35% over the last 20 years. Which is a significant increase, but when you consider the changes to motoring it might explain the high failure of road repairs. 20 years ago, I'd have considered something like a Ford Focus or VW Golf to be an average car. These cars have increased in weight by something like 20% over that time, but when you factor in that the average car is something more akin to an SUV, then add EV batteries in to the equation it's no wonder the roads are taking a beating!

I think that last bit is very important. I saw a graphic of the average car size change over the last 50 years, it’s surprising, especially the width, which will affect the weight as well of course.

[lyonhibs]

The condition of roads in Scotland, especially the state they are left in after roadworks have "finished" would be illegal over here I'm pretty sure. Absolute Hodge podge patchwork of tarmac of different eras, surfaces etc etc. How any of these contractors that regularly dig up then resurface the roads can look at their handiwork and think "yep, looks good to me" is beyond me.

[GRA]

Roads in Edinburgh have been awful for as long as I can remember.

However, they have been particularly shocking the last couple of months.

No excuse when you compare the road states to other European countries who have harsher winter weather conditions than us.

Need to properly shut off the roads and resurface them with robust materials that will last decades rather than the cheap c*rap that will crumble in a few months.

[hibee_girl]

Craigentinny road is one of the worst.

[Scouse Hibee]

When I drive home from work late at night, I’m sure if a cop was behind me he would pull me over thinking I was drunk as I swerve all over the road avoiding the pot holes

[hibsbollah]

When I drive home from work late at night, I’m sure if a cop was behind me he would pull me over thinking I was drunk as I swerve all over the road avoiding the pot holes

Cycling at night can be properly dangerous if you don’t know where the potholes are, you don’t see them until it’s too late. Or you keep under 10mph. The main roads are usually worse than the backstreets.

[Pretty Boy]

Cycling at night can be properly dangerous if you don’t know where the potholes are, you don’t see them until it’s too late. Or you keep under 10mph. The main roads are usually worse than the backstreets.

Talking off back streets my parents residential street has been completely resurfaced over the course of the last 18 months or so, it's a long street so has been done in stages.

It was a bit of a mess but it is in suburbia and was in far better nick than a lot of arterial routes and other major thoroughfares. It does make you wonder what the criteria is for these things.

When the setts on Brighton Place in Portobello were replaced 4 years or so ago it was largely against the will of the locals who wanted them removed. It may just be malicious rumours but the story was that a local councillor who lives on the street forced the plan through under the guise of 'tourist attraction' because she liked them.

[Mon Dieu4]

Cycling at night can be properly dangerous if you don’t know where the potholes are, you don’t see them until it’s too late. Or you keep under 10mph. The main roads are usually worse than the backstreets.

If you want a real thrill then cycle down Leith Walk, they could bring back Kickstart the TV show and just film people avoiding pedestrians, junkies, planters, cracked slabs, lorries on the pavement and people driving down streets that are now no entry

[hibsbollah]

If you want a real thrill then cycle down Leith Walk, they could bring back Kickstart the TV show and just film people avoiding pedestrians, junkies, planters, cracked slabs, lorries on the pavement and people driving down streets that are now no entry

I do mate, including post match dodging fellow Hibs fans :greengrin. Cycling to the match is great,last time I got the bus to ER on a Saturday afternoon I just gave up and walked, it’s total gridlock getting over princes street by bus. And driving is no fun either.

[Glory Lurker]

I started a thread a bit back about North Bridge. I remain unhappy at how much money must be getting pumped in to that. It's not fit for purpose. I appreciate it would cost more in the short run but it should just be brought down and replaced.

[.Sean.]

I stay at Newhaven Harbour and the whole way from there down to Commercial Street all the way along to the far end of Seafield is outrageous. There’s 6 or 7 massive potholes alone not counting the smaller ones you can’t avoid about every 50 yards

[Smartie]

I hit one on Queensferry Road on Sunday that juddered the bones of everyone in the car.

It really shocked me as I thought they'd at least look after the biggest, busiest roads.

Venture off the beaten track and it can be horrendous. I was taking some back roads to get from my partners sister's place in Crossford up to my folks' place near Kinross at the weekend and there was a bit down near the tip outside Dunfermline that was challenging to drive along very slowly.

[speedy_gonzales]

I do mate, including post match dodging fellow Hibs fans :greengrin. [B]Cycling to the match is great,[B/]last time I got the bus to ER on a Saturday afternoon I just gave up and walked, it’s total gridlock getting over princes street by bus. And driving is no fun either.

If you don't mind me asking, where are you safely locking up your bike (PM if you're uncomfortable posting here).
I tried to park my bike at the cycle racks in front of the main stand/Norton Park. I was quickly told I couldn't by a steward, no real reason given.

[hibsbollah]

If you don't mind me asking, where are you safely locking up your bike (PM if you're uncomfortable posting here).
I tried to park my bike at the cycle racks in front of the main stand/Norton Park. I was quickly told I couldn't by a steward, no real reason given.

I’ve parked mine there before, maybe the steward was having a bad day. There’s some low railings just at the back of the South stand car park as well I’ve locked up against before, a determined thief could probably get a grinder through it in a matter of seconds but there’s security cameras there so I figured it’s low risk.

[Just_Jimmy]

It's not just scotland. Manchester is awful. It's beyond a joke. The UK is a **** show. Literally every single thing is failing and no one cares enough from a position to do anything about it.

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[BroxburnHibee]

Greendykes Road is due to be resurfaced soon apparently.

[Gatecrasher]

The best bit is when they actually do something about it they shut a whole areas access to a vital route for 6 months. For anyone interested I'm talkingabout the M8 eastbound slip road at J3A at Livingston.

It's weird though, folk have always moaned about the state of the roads but they really are a mess.

[BS44]

Greendykes Road is due to be resurfaced soon apparently.

It got done not that long ago and it's a mess again, must be buses doing most of the damage at the high flats, 14 21 & 400 all run through that narrow stretch

[danhibees1875]

It got done not that long ago and it's a mess again, must be buses doing most of the damage at the high flats, 14 21 & 400 all run through that narrow stretch

Presumably also heavy lorries from all the house building. I reckon they've all been temp fixes to that road to get it slightly better each time knowing it would get battered again.

There's a comprehensive 12-week programme of renovations taking place from Monday. Presumably this is aiming to be a more permanent solution.

[stu in nottingham]

It's not just scotland. Manchester is awful. It's beyond a joke. The UK is a **** show. Literally every single thing is failing and no one cares enough from a position to do anything about it.

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Exactly, by no means just an Edinburgh thing, the roads here are apalling too - the worst I've ever known.Very busy and important roads forming main thoroughfares in the city and towns too. Local authorities instead of investing (or being able to afford to) in full re-surfacing seemingly wait for a tumult of complaints then send some guys out with a bit of tarmac to patch it up the worst holes and it lasts no considerable time. Obviously, it costs more in the long run but have the local authorities got enough cash to invest in re-surfacing - unlikely. They're underfunded.

It's the same principle with most things, cutting short-term costs which incurs greater long-term costs. We have several local villages here with a beck running alongside the main road. My sister lives in one of the villages and it was flooded due to the beck breaking its banks, just once in 30 years. Now, because the council don't dredge the silt out of the beck(s) it floods multiple times every single year.

[Hibernian Verse]

Dunfermline is shocking just now, especially Linburn Road.

[Jack]

I've just had a look at Scottish Road Works Online. It's about places where there's roadworks of some description rather than a crap road.

It suggests there are around 700-800 individual road works of one type or another within the city bypass!

https://www.roadworksscotland.org/

[Kato]

I've just had a look at Scottish Road Works Online. It's about places where there's roadworks of some description rather than a crap road.

It suggests there are around 700-800 individual road works of one type or another within the city bypass!

https://www.roadworksscotland.org/

Probably nothing to do with it but while the tram tracks were being installed the random digging up and re-digging up of certain roads (4000 holes dug on Leith Walk alone) were rumoured to be one of the scams - politically connected people gaining backhanders from the local companies doing the digging.

Has an echo of the compulsory roof repairs thing where the scaffold companies were putting up gear months before jobs were started and taking it down months after work stopped but charging rent for the scaffold the whole time.

Councils plead poverty but there's no shortage of holes they are chucking money at/down.

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[greenginger]

Haymarket Terrace is shutting next month ( east to west ) for 6 months to accommodate the building of the new cycle path.

At the the same time the Western approach Road will be completely shut for a month to replace a bridge.

You would think these traffic shambles were done on purpose.

If anybody has been caught in the constant jamb at the junction of Morrison Street turning into Dalry Road the answer is simple. Traffic light sequencing allow 20 seconds for traffic to turn onto Dalry Road , then 30 seconds for pedestrian crossing , then a further 30 seconds with both pedestrians and traffic at red before moving back to the 20 second slot for traffic turning up Dalry Road.

Its definitely a traffic jamb created on purpose.

[Glory Lurker]

Haymarket Terrace is shutting next month ( east to west ) for 6 months to accommodate the building of the new cycle path.

At the the same time the Western approach Road will be completely shut for a month to replace a bridge.

You would think these traffic shambles were done on purpose.

If anybody has been caught in the constant jamb at the junction of Morrison Street turning into Dalry Road the answer is simple. Traffic light sequencing allow 20 seconds for traffic to turn onto Dalry Road , then 30 seconds for pedestrian crossing , then a further 30 seconds with both pedestrians and traffic at red before moving back to the 20 second slot for traffic turning up Dalry Road.

Its definitely a traffic jamb created on purpose.

What bridge is getting replaced on WAR that it can be done in a month? I'll mind and keep clear of it!

[grunt]

Probably nothing to do with it but while the tram tracks were being installed the random digging up and re-digging up of certain roads (4000 holes dug on Leith Walk alone) were rumoured to be one of the scams - politically connected people gaining backhanders from the local companies doing the digging.

And though the holes were rather small, they had to count them all. Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall.

[heretoday]

We live in a constant building site in Edinburgh it seems.

[silverhibee]

Presumably also heavy lorries from all the house building. I reckon they've all been temp fixes to that road to get it slightly better each time knowing it would get battered again.

There's a comprehensive 12-week programme of renovations taking place from Monday. Presumably this is aiming to be a more permanent solution.

I got a leaflet through the door the other day, SNP one, he was saying that the roads were a mess in the area even though some had been resurfaced they were already a mess, he was blaming the shoddy work from the contractors who had done it and he would look to get new contractors in as they are not up to the job, my front street was done last year and it looked like they had let the one year apprentice do it, what a mess, over the pavement, patches all down the street, and it was far from level.

[J-C]

We've just found out that to take away all the cycle bollards, flower boxes etc, that they put in place during Covid is going to cost just over £1m.

Also the 2 holes at Slateford and West Approach causing chaos have suddenly been filled in with temp lights gone,a rugby game on the weekend perhaps.

[Paul1642]

Like virtually every other department, roads are grossly underfunded.
My observations though, it's manholes & utility works/repairs that are failing mostly. I Drive through town all the time and I see gas/water/cable trenches that have been back filled/surfaced but not properly jointed in to the original road.
Poor communication between contractors, a few years ago Saughton Rd North was completely relaid from Dovecot down to Broomhouse. A couple of months later Scottish water dug it all back up and it now resembles a patchwork quilt.
Inadequate maintenance works, the council started to use top-dressing techniques to extend and protect surface lifetime. Basically drop a shed load of sticky gravel and let the traffic bed it in to the surface.
They've done something very similar on South Gyle Broadway & Woodhall Rd. Woodhall Rd was getting torn up within days of laying and the above mentioned Transport Convener has assured us it will be repaired/replaced at the contractors cost but has fell short of saying it will be at zero cost to the council.
Another observation, traffic in Edinburgh has increased by something like 35% over the last 20 years. Which is a significant increase, but when you consider the changes to motoring it might explain the high failure of road repairs. 20 years ago, I'd have considered something like a Ford Focus or VW Golf to be an average car. These cars have increased in weight by something like 20% over that time, but when you factor in that the average car is something more akin to an SUV, then add EV batteries in to the equation it's no wonder the roads are taking a beating!

I completely agree with the lack of communication. The amount of roads that seem to get dug up a few times in quick succession is baffling.

Also when work is done to a pipe or similar you get a thin line of well repaired road in the middle of an otherwise crap road. Why can’t the council come to an agreement that whilst the road is being dug up anyway with the chaos that causes, the whole lane will be resurfaced which would surely make much more sense.

Currently the crossroads at the Wisp are chaos in all directions due to works. Here’s betting that the road is still crap after work is finished when they could have killed two birds with one stone and just resurfaced the entire closed section.

On an unrelated note I said at the beginning of lockdown that local authorities should have been resurfacing every road possible whist there was no cars on the roads and disruption would have been to a minimum. It would have been a really safe environment for the workers compared to most who worked throughout lockdown and was a once in a lifetime opportunity to resurface the busiest roads in the city without causing mayhem.

[greenginger]

What bridge is getting replaced on WAR that it can be done in a month? I'll mind and keep clear of it!

Its the one that goes over Russell Road. They are cutting all the trees down on the embankment below to give access.

[Glory Lurker]

Its the one that goes over Russell Road. They are cutting all the trees down on the embankment below to give access.

Is that not the old railway viaduct? Wow.

[greenginger]

Is that not the old railway viaduct? Wow.

Im not sure but I think it will only be the metal section at the east end part that’s getting replaced if it’s only taking 4 weeks.

[Glory Lurker]

Im not sure but I think it will only be the metal section at the east end part that’s getting replaced if it’s only taking 4 weeks.

I hope so!

[speedy_gonzales]

Its the one that goes over Russell Road. They are cutting all the trees down on the embankment below to give access.

I thought the trees were being cut down so they could build the new cycle corridor from CCWEL to the canal? An extension from the NEPN towards Fountainbridge.

[Stairway 2 7]

I thought the trees were being cut down so they could build the new cycle corridor from CCWEL to the canal? An extension from the NEPN towards Fountainbridge.

Yes no bridges are being removed one is being added for cycling and walking

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-travel-work-begins-on-roseburn-to-union-canal-green-corridor-with-western-approach-road-closure-4006870

[Willis1875]

Yes no bridges are being removed one is being added for cycling and walking

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-travel-work-begins-on-roseburn-to-union-canal-green-corridor-with-western-approach-road-closure-4006870

It would be done over a couple of night in a country like japan with minimal fuss….4/5 weeks here however

[He's here!]

I started a thread a bit back about North Bridge. I remain unhappy at how much money must be getting pumped in to that. It's not fit for purpose. I appreciate it would cost more in the short run but it should just be brought down and replaced.

Is it structurally unsound? I'm not actually clear what the works involve but I guess it's major in the light of how long it's taking.

I remember attending a lecture a good few years back which featured a discussion of the extraordinary structural integrity of the Thomas Telford-engineered Dean Bridge which was never designed for motor vehicles yet supports a phenomenal flow of heavy traffic on a daily basis.

[Glory Lurker]

Is it structurally unsound? I'm not actually clear what the works involve but I guess it's major in the light of how long it's taking.

I remember attending a lecture a good few years back which featured a discussion of the extraordinary structural integrity of the Thomas Telford-engineered Dean Bridge which was never designed for motor vehicles yet supports a phenomenal flow of heavy traffic on a daily basis.

That's a really good point about the Dean Bridge. I'd never thought of that but it doesn't half take a strain.

[danhibees1875]

Is it structurally unsound? I'm not actually clear what the works involve but I guess it's major in the light of how long it's taking.

I remember attending a lecture a good few years back which featured a discussion of the extraordinary structural integrity of the Thomas Telford-engineered Dean Bridge which was never designed for motor vehicles yet supports a phenomenal flow of heavy traffic on a daily basis.

It was meant to finish in August I think (based on road signs from November 21 saying there would be a 9 month diversion).

There was an article recently about CEC pressing on with plans for the North-South tram line which I think would go over the bridge, they may as well just add it now. :greengrin

[Just Alf]

Roundabout at Longstone bus depot.... what the hell?

Last week when they put up the temp traffic ights it was carnage tailing back past the prison on day one.
They've now decided to do the work overnight so the lights get.put in place at 7pm or summat.

All this disruption and COST... to fix a knackered road?
NO! ... its to put in a new fancy kerb round the roundabout.
Give me strength.. surely the funds should be getting spent on actual problems?????

[J-C]

Is it structurally unsound? I'm not actually clear what the works involve but I guess it's major in the light of how long it's taking.

I remember attending a lecture a good few years back which featured a discussion of the extraordinary structural integrity of the Thomas Telford-engineered Dean Bridge which was never designed for motor vehicles yet supports a phenomenal flow of heavy traffic on a daily basis.


Rumours around that it's being strengthened to accommodate the new tram line heading south in a few years time, Edinburgh council have already been discussing it.

[J-C]

On another note Edinburgh airport have given the licence for picking up at their rank to private hire companies all 5's and all 7's, this will mean that there will be zero black cabs picking up at the airport unless pre ordered, the biggest brown envelop won.

[LewysGot2]

Rumours around that it's being strengthened to accommodate the new tram line heading south in a few years time, Edinburgh council have already been discussing it.

Yes, it was reported earlier this week talk of a line from Granton to the ERI. Open by 2035.

Closed every time there's frost or snow though 🤭🤣

[Glory Lurker]

Rumours around that it's being strengthened to accommodate the new tram line heading south in a few years time, Edinburgh council have already been discussing it.

What, just the northbound side? How long will the southbound side be closed to do the same work that's caused traffic chaos for ages?

That sounds like I'm having a go. I'm not!

[J-C]

What, just the northbound side? How long will the southbound side be closed to do the same work that's caused traffic chaos for ages?

That sounds like I'm having a go. I'm not!


Well as the poster above said, 2035 is the date given, so another 12 bloody years of it.

[Stairway 2 7]

Well as the poster above said, 2035 is the date given, so another 12 bloody years of it.

2025 for the bridge, 2035 for tram to eri, Granton