Mason Greenwood.

[blackpoolhibs]

Talktv reporting that the charges against him have been dropped.

[Stairway 2 7]

Case was always one that would be hard to convict. Horrible rat of a man, career surely done but then again

[Stevie Reid]

On BBC now:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-64502021

Says a key witness withdrew.

[HoboHarry]

Case was always one that would be hard to convict. Horrible rat of a man, career surely done but then again

I doubt Man U will play him again but I'd imagine they'd have to pay up his contract.

[Onceinawhile]

Case was always one that would be hard to convict. Horrible rat of a man, career surely done but then again

Unfortunately, I don't think his career will be done.

He'll be out the door at man u, but a club somewhere will take a chance.

[J-C]

It says a key witness withdrew their involvement, I assume that could be his ex girlfriend as her testimony would be key for the case against him.

[Monktonhall 7]

Jamie Insell just tweeted that it was the girlfriend that withdrew her statement, but also that they’ve still been together throughout 🤫

[J-C]

Jamie Insell just tweeted that it was the girlfriend that withdrew her statement, but also that they’ve still been together throughout 🤫


Not looking good for her if that's the case, wasting police time maybe.

[HoboHarry]

Not looking good for her if that's the case, wasting police time maybe.

Doubt that. Based on the video at the time it didn't appear that she was lying about anything. They've reconciled it seems.

[LunasBoots]

If I remember correctly at the time the women and her family didn't want any further action when it all started. I'm not surprised it's been dropped, be hard for him to play football in this country again, probably go abroad

[Pagan Hibernia]

I would imagine United value their brand a lot more than Mason Greenwood. Can’t see them playing him again.

[heretoday]

He could go to Saudi Arabia maybe. Or Iran.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

He could go to Saudi Arabia maybe. Or Iran.

Probably get a contract extension over there for paggering burds. He’s a cretin.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Probably get a contract extension over there for paggering burds. He’s a cretin.


Yeah, you know what "that lot" are like over there, I suppose.

[Hibernia&Alba]

I would imagine United value their brand a lot more than Mason Greenwood. Can’t see them playing him again.

I hope not. Okay, he is innocent in the eyes of the law, but there is no doubt he abuses women. United now face a moral, if not a legal dilemma. I hope they sack him for bringing the club into disrepute. There is no doubt another club would take him, but the fans of such a club must then speak up.

[Greencore]

Disgusting. Hopefully he gets a career ending injury. Excuse of a human.

[Torto7]

So many beasts involved in sport. This wrongun should be dealt with the same way as that Rufus McClean guy.

[hibee-boys]

If I remember correctly at the time the women and her family didn't want any further action when it all started. I'm not surprised it's been dropped, be hard for him to play football in this country again, probably go abroad

I’m not surprised, he was probably their meal ticket for the years ahead. £££££ more important to them than him paying for his abhorrent behaviour with jail time.

[hibsbollah]

I’m not surprised, he was probably their meal ticket for the years ahead. £££££ more important to them than him paying for his abhorrent behaviour with jail time.

If he’s paid hush money in the form of an informal out of court settlement then good for her and she’s got nothing to be ashamed of, unlike the ****bag himself.

[Betty Boop]

If he’s paid hush money in the form of an informal out of court settlement then good for her and she’s got nothing to be ashamed of, unlike the ****bag himself.

I doubt he would be paying her hush money when they are back together.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Yeah, you know what "that lot" are like over there, I suppose.

I mean if you check the people that stick up for him on Facebook and twitter, they’re usually from the Middle East or Africa. That’s a fact, there’s nothing racist or controversial about that. Obviously this doesn’t mean everyone from the Middle East or Africa is a wife beating rapist, but violence against women does tend to be epidemic in some of the countries in these areas


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[hibsbollah]

I doubt he would be paying her hush money when they are back together.

Define ‘back together’. Judging by the things he said there is coercive control going on which is probably even more worrying if you have any concern for the woman involved. I’m only assuming they are ‘back together’ since so much of this seems to be him positioning himself to be looked at positively on social media and the red tops you never actually know, do you?

[MKHIBEE]

I mean if you check the people that stick up for him on Facebook and twitter, they’re usually from the Middle East or Africa. That’s a fact, there’s nothing racist or controversial about that. Obviously this doesn’t mean everyone from the Middle East or Africa is a wife beating rapist, but violence against women does tend to be epidemic in some of the countries in these areas


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Can’t speak for those on Facebook but absolutely not the case on Twitter.

[hibsbollah]

I mean if you check the people that stick up for him on Facebook and twitter, they’re usually from the Middle East or Africa. That’s a fact, there’s nothing racist or controversial about that. Obviously this doesn’t mean everyone from the Middle East or Africa is a wife beating rapist, but violence against women does tend to be epidemic in some of the countries in these areas


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That’s a massively simplistic take on it and yes, you ARE stereotyping massively. Lots of women in Islamic countries are treated with respect within that cultural context. I’m sure lots of people from a multitude of backgrounds also stick up for him and misogyny isn’t exactly absent in this country either. Lots of Little Andrew Tate wannabes around.

[green day]

That’s a massively simplistic take on it and yes, you ARE stereotyping massively. Lots of women in Islamic countries are treated with respect within that cultural context. I’m sure lots of people from a multitude of backgrounds also stick up for him and misogyny isn’t exactly absent in this country either. Lots of Little Andrew Tate wannabes around.

We were in Los Argentinos steakhouse on NYE with another family, and there were a couple of young muscle bound dicks behind us, I didnt catch too much of the convo but my son was pissing himself laughing (at the guys behaviour) as one of them was sharing naked pics of some "bird that just keeps begging me for it so I let her have it now and then".

I am glad I dont have girls.........

[lyonhibs]

Anyone who heard those recordings and thinks that's an equitable outcome needs their head examined IMO

[JamesHFC]

Anyone who heard those recordings and thinks that's an equitable outcome needs their head examined IMO

Yep. Proper disgusting. What sort of message would it send to sexual & domestic violence victims if he was to play again. Worrying times.

[Pretty Boy]

Shameful.

No wonder so many women continue to suffer in silence rather than report instances of rape, sexual assault and domestic abuse. They are systematically failed and it's simply not good enough.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

That’s a massively simplistic take on it and yes, you ARE stereotyping massively. Lots of women in Islamic countries are treated with respect within that cultural context. I’m sure lots of people from a multitude of backgrounds also stick up for him and misogyny isn’t exactly absent in this country either. Lots of Little Andrew Tate wannabes around.

Maybe simplistic but I also said this obviously doesn’t mean everyone from these places is a women beating rapist, of course lots of women are treated with respect in these countries also? Agreed re Andrew Tate, misogyny seems to be “cool” now. Warning signs were there years ago for online radicalisation with the popularity to Britain First, it’s an effective tool and young working class men are always the fascists target demographic. Seems we haven’t learned how to combat it going off that ***** popularity


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[Stairway 2 7]

Mason Greenwood & Harriet Robson are expecting their first child.

Well I can see why the case fell apart since she's back with him. I can only hope for her and her child that he has changed and got help

[jacomo]

We were in Los Argentinos steakhouse on NYE with another family, and there were a couple of young muscle bound dicks behind us, I didnt catch too much of the convo but my son was pissing himself laughing (at the guys behaviour) as one of them was sharing naked pics of some "bird that just keeps begging me for it so I let her have it now and then".

I am glad I dont have girls.........


I hope you had a stern word with your son.

[chrisski33]

We were in Los Argentinos steakhouse on NYE with another family, and there were a couple of young muscle bound dicks behind us, I didnt catch too much of the convo but my son was pissing himself laughing (at the guys behaviour) as one of them was sharing naked pics of some "bird that just keeps begging me for it so I let her have it now and then".

I am glad I dont have girls.........

I have both and hope boys dont have that view apon my daughter and I certainly be ensuring my boys dont treat women with lack of respect many young men seem too.
I got a hard time for checking my sons snapchat recently amd im shocked at how many don't and some of the content others including girls were sharing and saying was shocking.

[jacomo]

I’ve not heard or seen any of the material that apparently damns Greenwood, I understand it’s pretty shocking.

I do think this a very awkward situation for Man Utd. Ultimately, he’s not guilty of any crime.

I do also think that playing football for a living is a huge privilege, not a right. Any club are entitled to expect anyone who wears their shirt to represent good values and maybe they will sack him. However, there’s a big financial implication to that.

[Trinity Hibee]

I’ve not heard or seen any of the material that apparently damns Greenwood, I understand it’s pretty shocking.

I do think this a very awkward situation for Man Utd. Ultimately, he’s not guilty of any crime.

I do also think that playing football for a living is a huge privilege, not a right. Any club are entitled to expect anyone who wears their shirt to represent good values and maybe they will sack him. However, there’s a big financial implication to that.

Good phrase to use there, a privilege not a right. Like many, I don’t think he should be able to play football again. Even though he’s very young I’ve no doubt he’ll have already made enough money to never have to work again. Don’t think he should be given the chance to make anymore

[MWHIBBIES]

Her parents have let her down so badly. She is a very public victim of abuse and probably all sorts of manipulation. Her dad actually came out and downplayed it.

I hope she can escape his clutches and realise how horrible and unhealthy that relationship is. Harder to do that when the kid is born. Hopefully he doesn't abuse the child like he did her.

[Stairway 2 7]

I’ve not heard or seen any of the material that apparently damns Greenwood, I understand it’s pretty shocking.

I do think this a very awkward situation for Man Utd. Ultimately, he’s not guilty of any crime.

I do also think that playing football for a living is a huge privilege, not a right. Any club are entitled to expect anyone who wears their shirt to represent good values and maybe they will sack him. However, there’s a big financial implication to that.

A snippet of the lovely Mason

https://mobile.twitter.com/thfcteddy/status/1629447834935123975

[MrRobot]

I’ve not heard or seen any of the material that apparently damns Greenwood, I understand it’s pretty shocking.

I do think this a very awkward situation for Man Utd. Ultimately, he’s not guilty of any crime.

I do also think that playing football for a living is a huge privilege, not a right. Any club are entitled to expect anyone who wears their shirt to represent good values and maybe they will sack him. However, there’s a big financial implication to that.

The small clips we have seen and heard are enough to show the guy is an utter detestable piece of ****. If Man United allow him back into the team then i can see a huge backlash on them and rightly so.

[jacomo]

Her parents have let her down so badly. She is a very public victim of abuse and probably all sorts of manipulation. Her dad actually came out and downplayed it.

I hope she can escape his clutches and realise how horrible and unhealthy that relationship is. Harder to do that when the kid is born. Hopefully he doesn't abuse the child like he did her.


That’s a shocker.

Wonder if her dad is more interested in getting close to a wealthy footballer or the welfare of his own daughter?

[ScottB]

That’s a shocker.

Wonder if her dad is more interested in getting close to a wealthy footballer or the welfare of his own daughter?

Or the even more worrying implication that he’s doesn’t see anything wrong with what went on.

[J-C]

Or the even more worrying implication that he’s doesn’t see anything wrong with what went on.


Unfortunately she'll think she was a contributing factor to the abuse, it'll be a case of sorry for making you angry Mason, I deserved that slap. Watched enough of these type of programmes where the victim can't see the abuse due to being in love with the abuser and always feels it's their fault they get slapped about. It's how abusers control their victims, by playing the guilt card, shame really as with a kid on the way she's now tied into the relationship and if she accuses him again, no one will believe her due to what's just happened.

[blackpoolhibs]

Unfortunately she'll think she was a contributing factor to the abuse, it'll be a case of sorry for making you angry Mason, I deserved that slap. Watched enough of these type of programmes where the victim can't see the abuse due to being in love with the abuser and always feels it's their fault they get slapped about. It's how abusers control their victims, by playing the guilt card, shame really as with a kid on the way she's now tied into the relationship and if she accuses him again, no one will believe her due to what's just happened.

I doubt that very much, everyone to a man/woman/this/it are saying he's guilty, if it happens again i'm pretty sure they will all agree he's guilty again.

The big difference then will be folk saying she was stupid for going back to him knowing what he's like, a leopard and his spots and all that.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Talktv reporting that the charges against him have been dropped.

Thought this was gonna be a thread about the ref of today's Glasgow2 Cup Final - no seriously...!

Forgot about what seems to be some pretty abhorrent behaviour if true.

As the father of 2 boys what I can do is set the example of how to respect women. This does affect us all. ****ty behaviour needs called out.

[21.05.2016]

Guys a ****bag. We've all heard the recording the lassie took and its obvious whats going on. Also, the fact that the lassie has taken him back and is now pregnant with his child tells you all you need to know. Not a chance in hell would he still be with her if she made false allegations against him which have ruined his career and life.

Would be PR suicide for Man Utd to keep him and for any club to want to sign him.

[21.05.2016]

Her parents have let her down so badly. She is a very public victim of abuse and probably all sorts of manipulation. Her dad actually came out and downplayed it.

I hope she can escape his clutches and realise how horrible and unhealthy that relationship is. Harder to do that when the kid is born. Hopefully he doesn't abuse the child like he did her.

The statement from her dad after the audio clip was released was shocking! Its abundantly clear he couldn't care less if he's abusive to his daughter as long as she's with someone who can give her (and probably her family) a millionaires lifestyle. Disguising really.

If it was my daughter i wouldn't give a monkeys how rich or famous he was I'd never want him near her ever again!

[DH1875]

Looking like he is back in Utd plans as being reported that Adidas have given him and Utd the go ahead. (Although goes to show how messed up football is when its Adidas calling the shots here).

[MKHIBEE]

Looking like he is back in Utd plans as being reported that Adidas have given him and Utd the go ahead. (Although goes to show how messed up football is when its Adidas calling the shots here).

Money, money, money,

[J-C]

Looking like he is back in Utd plans as being reported that Adidas have given him and Utd the go ahead. (Although goes to show how messed up football is when its Adidas calling the shots here).

You may not agree with his actions but his girlfriend didn't press charges and they're still together, so technically not a criminal, just no a nice person.

[Since90+2]

You may not agree with his actions but his girlfriend didn't press charges and they're still together, so technically not a criminal, just no a nice person.

I think they are also now engaged.

[Paul1642]

You may not agree with his actions but his girlfriend didn't press charges and they're still together, so technically not a criminal, just no a nice person.

Unfortunately that’s the nature of domestic abuse sometimes, especially when the perpetrator provides a lifestyle that the victim couldn’t afford without them.

It’s still disgusting behaviour and it’s still criminal. Not being convicted with a crime doesn’t change the fact that a crime was committed.

[neil7908]

Unfortunately that’s the nature of domestic abuse sometimes, especially when the perpetrator provides a lifestyle that the victim couldn’t afford without them.

It’s still disgusting behaviour and it’s still criminal. Not being convicted with a crime doesn’t change the fact that a crime was committed.

Yup. **** him.

[Paul1642]

I wonder if any politicians have anything to say about this seeing as he’s been convicted with the same number of crimes as David Goodwillie.

[Aldo]

The statement from her dad after the audio clip was released was shocking! Its abundantly clear he couldn't care less if he's abusive to his daughter as long as she's with someone who can give her (and probably her family) a millionaires lifestyle. Disguising really.

If it was my daughter i wouldn't give a monkeys how rich or famous he was I'd never want him near her ever again!

Your last bit is spot on.

Tbh anyone abusing either of my daughters like that better be man enough to have a go at me in the same manner.

Disgusting human being

[DH1875]

I wonder if any politicians have anything to say about this seeing as he’s been convicted with the same number of crimes as David Goodwillie.

Goodwillie can't even play in the 9th tier of Scottish football. Greenwood is making £75k per week and could well be back in Manchester Utd first team squad anytime soon.

[He's here!]

Goodwillie can't even play in the 9th tier of Scottish football. Greenwood is making £75k per week and could well be back in Manchester Utd first team squad anytime soon.

Mason Greenwood: Rachel Riley accuses Man Utd of 'gaslighting' - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66586059)

Clearly this week's news means he won't be back in the Man U first team squad any time soon. Whole thing has clearly been badly handled, although a question that seems to go unanswered is what do campaigners WANT to see happen to the player now? He hasn't (technically) been found guilty of anything in a court of law so what is the appropriate way forward? If it's felt he should never kick a ball again what would be acceptable for him to do? Whatever anyone's personal opinion of him there must surely be some process/structure for rehabilitation? Should United have shouldered more of the responsibility for that rehabilitation?

[MrRobot]

Mason Greenwood: Rachel Riley accuses Man Utd of 'gaslighting' - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66586059)

Clearly this week's news means he won't be back in the Man U first team squad any time soon. Whole thing has clearly been badly handled, although a question that seems to go unanswered is what do campaigners WANT to see happen to the player now? He hasn't (technically) been found guilty of anything in a court of law so what is the appropriate way forward? If it's felt he should never kick a ball again what would be acceptable for him to do? Whatever anyone's personal opinion of him there must surely be some process/structure for rehabilitation? Should United have shouldered more of the responsibility for that rehabilitation?

He won’t be back in the United team at all since they are getting rid permanently and they owe him absolutely nothing.

Despite handling it extremely poorly, i’m glad United finally made the right call.

[Brightside]

Any reason why this is on this forum?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Any reason why this is on this forum?

Think it should be on the deadline day thread?

[He's here!]

He won’t be back in the United team at all since they are getting rid permanently and they owe him absolutely nothing.

Despite handling it extremely poorly, i’m glad United finally made the right call.

I know, I was responding to a post from a time when it looked like they might be hoping to reintroduce him to the team.

United's statement pretty much absolves him of any of the behaviour he was accused of so if that's the stance they're taking I'd suggest they owe him more than casting him adrift. Having played such a huge part in his life since the age of 7 you wonder what kind of values they instilled in him. Or was he just a potentially multi-million pound asset?

[Brightside]

Think it should be on the deadline day thread?

I’d put it in the bin tbh. Nothing good will come of this 😂