Unhappy dressing room?

[Unseen work]

Where?

Loads of rumours about it lately, today surely puts that to bed about it being anything untoward.

Changing rooms can be tough when you’re losing.

Those players look like they’re all sticking together so as a fan base let’s stick with them, ignore the rumours and back them 100%

[LunasBoots]

Got rid of the unhappy players?

[MWHIBBIES]

"trust me, he's lost the dressing room"


Didn't look that way today. Great performance.

[SHODAN]

Turns out the dressing room was down the back of the sofa all along.

[CL0762]

"trust me, he's lost the dressing room"


Didn't look that way today. Great performance.

Didn’t look that way against Livingston either.

Definitely think there’s signs of it starting to click.

[Hibbyradge]

Didn’t look that way against Livingston either.

Definitely think there’s signs of it starting to click.

Or against hearts.

[ronaldo7]

Joe Newell brought them together.

[Hibbyradge]

Joe Newell brought them together.

He had a very good game.

[Donegal Hibby]

Didn't look like a unhappy team today more like one that's fighting for each other . Great to see . Well done Lee Johnson and the boys in green🇳🇬

[raeburnhibs]

maybe the problem was sold to Watford?

[Torto7]

maybe the problem was sold to Watford?

Maybe but it's unlikely one player made things worse. That's if the rumour was true in the first place. If you aren't winning isn't it an unhappy dressing room by default?

[Hiber-nation]

Every player celebrating the goals. Brilliant to see.

[JammyDoidger]

I think he had lost it Or certainly was losing it, having the amount of players we did sitting about scratching their backside was always going to cause issues. Glad we have addressed that, now let's get some extra quality through the door.

[Since452]

Maybe he's weeded out the the problem players. More likely there wasn't a problem at all.

[Springbank]

Got rid of the unhappy players?

Bullseye

[tamh]

maybe the problem was sold to Watford?
Spot on:aok::flag:

[S4uzee]

Every player celebrating the goals. Brilliant to see.

Noticed that too

[hibee-boys]

This is no criticism to Ryan but I feel that the players worked better as a team yesterday, difficult to put my finger on what I mean by that but, much like some of the comments made around the time Ronaldo was at Man Utd, I feel that sometimes a player/s can carry such authority that it impacts on how a team operates as a unit. Then again, all of that could be complete guff🤔

[DIXIHIBS]

Its great to have big personality players like Porto but maybe they stifle others. I remember when Mowbray came in he got rid of Grant Brebner who had been great the previous season coz he felt it gave others the chance to shine. Just a thought.

[OldEast]

maybe the problem was sold to Watford?

I think you are right

[DIXIHIBS]

This is no criticism to Ryan but I feel that the players worked better as a team yesterday, difficult to put my finger on what I mean by that but, much like some of the comments made around the time Ronaldo was at Man Utd, I feel that sometimes a player/s can carry such authority that it impacts on how a team operates as a unit. Then again, all of that could be complete guff🤔

You beat me to it.

[yerauldda]

I don’t think Porteous would ever have caused unrest purposefully but must’ve been a degree of awkwardness knowing he was leaving. Probably a huge weight off the likes of Fish’s shoulders.

[neil7908]

Not fair to lay it all at Portos door but there where some whispers from decent sources on here I seem to recall about other players being pissed off at him for his attitude.

He was ahem, very focal at other players at times and I know how I'd feel about some 22 year old laddie screaming at me when he's more than capable of his own moments of madness.

Yesterday was amazing Hibs - now let's keep up this momentum.

[500miles]

The rumour wasn't there the players had a problem with each other.

[NC1875]

Joe Newell brought them together.

He was brilliant today. More of the same most weeks Joe and I’ll happily change my mind on you.

[worcesterhibby]

Porto was one of our most talented players. The problem is he isn't nearly as talented as he thinks he is. I'm more than happy to see him out the door. It's a team game and Ryan plays for himself.

[Crunchie]

Where?

Loads of rumours about it lately, today surely puts that to bed about it being anything untoward.

Changing rooms can be tough when you’re losing.

Those players look like they’re all sticking together so as a fan base let’s stick with them, ignore the rumours and back them 100%
:aok:

[Hibbyradge]

Porto was one of our most talented players. The problem is he isn't nearly as talented as he thinks he is. I'm more than happy to see him out the door. It's a team game and Ryan plays for himself.

How talented does he think he is?

Potentially EPL bound Watford level talented?

[loanheadhibby]

I always take these rumours with a massive pinch of salt. Every time a club has poor run of results = problems in dressing room.

I think team showed yesterday that they are in it together. Another victory on Tuesday will be a good tonic.

[J-C]

Maybe Porteous was a bit of a problem, constantly moaning and shouting at the new players on the pitch and presumably at training won't help. Bojang has come out with his flat and training pish, when in fact he was just rubbish. Kenneh had a bust up with Johnson abd was immediately punted to Ross C, he since apologised but then liked the 2 Hearts tweets.

As said elsewhere, just getting 3-4 out the dressing room can make a difference to morale.

[.Sean.]

Maybe but it's unlikely one player made things worse. That's if the rumour was true in the first place. If you aren't winning isn't it an unhappy dressing room by default?
Not saying that’s the case but we had one guy at my work who literally dragged the whole workshop down to his level with his bad attitude and temperament. As soon as he was gone things improved overnight. It happens

[JimBHibees]

Where?

Loads of rumours about it lately, today surely puts that to bed about it being anything untoward.

Changing rooms can be tough when you’re losing.

Those players look like they’re all sticking together so as a fan base let’s stick with them, ignore the rumours and back them 100%

Couldn't agree more. Excellent performance need to do that consistently of course.

[JimBHibees]

Not saying that’s the case but we had one guy at my work who literally dragged the whole workshop down to his level with his bad attitude and temperament. As soon as he was gone things improved overnight. It happens

Can easily happen in a workplace especially in such an inherently selfish and egotistical environment as professional football

[SMAXXA]

I think some people are looking into something that’s not there and trying to find some rational to back up the so called changing room issues. Porto wasn’t an issue, the only issue we had was we were ended up with an environment that had multiple players told they could leave and weren’t part of the plans, that naturally creates an issue around the place. Now that’s being resolved we will start to see a closer knit group. So in summary, there’s no need to look for a specific scapegoat, it was just the situation we had and we had to create it to move people on.

[H18 SFR]

This is no criticism to Ryan but I feel that the players worked better as a team yesterday, difficult to put my finger on what I mean by that but, much like some of the comments made around the time Ronaldo was at Man Utd, I feel that sometimes a player/s can carry such authority that it impacts on how a team operates as a unit. Then again, all of that could be complete guff🤔

I agree with this, we just looked more balanced and there wasn’t huge gaps between the central defenders which likely contributed to the clear sheet.

Don’t get me wrong, I liked seeing Ryan stepping forward to start off attacks but we just looked a much better unit. The one time Aberdeen broke the line centrally, Campbell was there to make the last ditch tackle - see better unit comment above.

[CapitalGreen]

How talented does he think he is?

Potentially EPL bound Watford level talented?

Potential isn’t talent.

[Donegal Hibby]

Pictures here would suggest the dressing room isn't has unhappy as first thought :greengrin.
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/gallery-hibs-hit-aberdeen-for-six

[Wilson]

I think some people are looking into something that’s not there and trying to find some rational to back up the so called changing room issues. Porto wasn’t an issue, the only issue we had was we were ended up with an environment that had multiple players told they could leave and weren’t part of the plans, that naturally creates an issue around the place. Now that’s being resolved we will start to see a closer knit group. So in summary, there’s no need to look for a specific scapegoat, it was just the situation we had and we had to create it to move people on.

This is more likely.

Ryan came through the ranks and grew into the team supported by senior professionals. He wasn't a problem player brought in from elsewhere.

Hopefully he goes on to have a great career and we can be proud of our part in his development.

[blackpoolhibs]

I'm one of Ryan's biggest fans, but yesterday it was nice to see our centre halves just launch it out of play and clear their lines.

With Ryan he's always looking to play, and with the team we currently have, it was nice to see us defend further up the park by playing the ball in behind their defenders and winning the ball back in the final 3rd.

[archie]

Its great to have big personality players like Porto but maybe they stifle others. I remember when Mowbray came in he got rid of Grant Brebner who had been great the previous season coz he felt it gave others the chance to shine. Just a thought.

I think there were other issues with Brebner.

[B.H.F.C]

I'm one of Ryan's biggest fans, but yesterday it was nice to see our centre halves just launch it out of play and clear their lines.

With Ryan he's always looking to play, and with the team we currently have, it was nice to see us defend further up the park by playing the ball in behind their defenders and winning the ball back in the final 3rd.

Agree. Football is really quite simple at times. Keep the ball away from your own goal and put them under pressure closer to their goal. Less chance of conceding and more chance of scoring which is the most sensible way of playing given our defensive frailties.

[scm70nyd1973]

I think there were other issues with Brebner.

You’re right there apparently were but I’m not going to drag them up - good player, good servant, great Hibby and a good guy (I had the pleasure of meeting him in Australia a few times when I worked there) - all I can recall is that Mowbray (I think) said that when he got a move to the Arabs (I think) we’d have to trust him on the move which wasn’t being greeted well. Sad end to his time at HIBS but at least he got to play for his boyhood team and play well for them. He is fortunate to have been born a Hibby (still is), lived the dream and will always be a Hibby 😁

[Irish_Steve]

There was certainly a lot less finger pointing and shouting yesterday, it must be difficult taking them blame when someone else on the pitch has made the mistake

[jeffers]

There is a difference between losing the dressing room and players not liking him at all. Maybe it actually says a bit more about the players who apparently got two managers the sack….

[Dunbar Hibee]

Bullseye

Nonsense. Have a word with yourself

[Vault Boy]

Pictures here would suggest the dressing room isn't has unhappy as first thought :greengrin.
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/gallery-hibs-hit-aberdeen-for-six

For balance:

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[S4uzee]

Maybe Porteous was a bit of a problem, constantly moaning and shouting at the new players on the pitch and presumably at training won't help. Bojang has come out with his flat and training pish, when in fact he was just rubbish. Kenneh had a bust up with Johnson abd was immediately punted to Ross C, he since apologised but then liked the 2 Hearts tweets.

As said elsewhere, just getting 3-4 out the dressing room can make a difference to morale.

I remember Porteous screaming at Tavares against Ross Co at home. Tavares didn’t know what to do and Melkersen had to go over and support him. Wasn’t nice to see

[Lago]

Pictures here would suggest the dressing room isn't has unhappy as first thought :greengrin.
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/gallery-hibs-hit-aberdeen-for-six
Terrific, like the one where Stevenson is giving Kevin a wee hug, Kevin's smile says it all for me.

[LewysGot2]

I remember early in the season when McGeady was out injured he appeared on that really annoying Simon Ferry chat thing with his OldFirm love in pals...I can't usually thole it but because it was McGeady on, I watched.

At the time I was a bit concerned that McGeady said something along the lines of there being probably too many foreign players in the squad and they were not then on the right page for what the expectations and demands were.

I just wanted to say "shuttit you" at that time because it felt very early to be casting aspersions but mainly because I felt McGeady should not be talking about the dressing room and his team mates with anyone.

I suspect though now he knew that a fair number of the golden ticket punts on young lads from the far flung corners of the world were just not good enough.

To be fair to McGeady he has shown attitude and athleticism that belies his age and stage in the game. He is a great example to anyone who wants a long career in the game.

[cameronw-hfc]

I think some people are looking into something that’s not there and trying to find some rational to back up the so called changing room issues. Porto wasn’t an issue, the only issue we had was we were ended up with an environment that had multiple players told they could leave and weren’t part of the plans, that naturally creates an issue around the place. Now that’s being resolved we will start to see a closer knit group. So in summary, there’s no need to look for a specific scapegoat, it was just the situation we had and we had to create it to move people on.


Spot on. Less players means less depth of course, but also means less players to keep happy. When others get told they're not in the plans / know they're going out it's always going to cause issues. Hopefully with a smaller squad everyones kept happy and we can see some progress.

[weecounty hibby]

Nothing I saw yesterday points to an issue in the dressing room, either between players or between players and manager. Everyone gave 100%, worked their ***** off for each other, covered each other when mistakes were made, celebrated together as a team. Most importantly the pen when Nisbet gave the ball to Campbell for his hatrick. All looked very together to me

[marinello59]

Nothing I saw yesterday points to an issue in the dressing room, either between players or between players and manager. Everyone gave 100%, worked their ***** off for each other, covered each other when mistakes were made, celebrated together as a team. Most importantly the pen when Nisbet gave the ball to Campbell for his hatrick. All looked very together to me

:agree:

[greenlex]

He’s maybe temporarily got a hold of the dressing room. It’ll be away walkabout again if we don’t get a result midweek.

[PatHead]

Ryan was great for us, not a problem. He has gone and as time goes on we will know how good he was see how good he was similar to Fletcher.
We have to move on, not look for things that were not there.
Good luck to Ryan, I hope he becomes a Scotland regular.
We have been there before and will be there again.
GGTTH

[chrisski33]

We will see how they are when we play against a more organised and tougher team than what Aberdeen was on sat

[CapitalGreen]

We will see how they are when we play against a more organised and tougher team than what Aberdeen was on sat

Every other team in the league has played Aberdeen this season, we are the only ones to score 6 goals against them.