Fans of Hibs.

[turn and burn]

Amongst the most negative and sour I’ve ever met. Are we not part of our own downfall? The reaction to the announcement of our latest signing was symptomatic of this. Some of the shouts I hear in the stands are embarrassing.

[brianmc]

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0/10
Must try harder.

[Bostonhibby]

Down with all the shouty people

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[DIXIHIBS]

Amongst the most negative and sour I’ve ever met. Are we not part of our own downfall? The reaction to the announcement of our latest signing was symptomatic of this. Some of the shouts I hear in the stands are embarrassing.

Do you meet fans of other clubs? Just wondering. And sour?

[Alfred E Newman]

We are a disgrace.

[Colr]

Amongst the most negative and sour I’ve ever met. Are we not part of our own downfall? The reaction to the announcement of our latest signing was symptomatic of this. Some of the shouts I hear in the stands are embarrassing.

It’s the triumph of experience over hope, mate!

[cabbageandribs1875]

sigh

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Ah you’re right enough I’ll stop moaning now you’ve convinced me, everything is fine


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[jakeshibs]

Amongst the most negative and sour I’ve ever met. Are we not part of our own downfall? The reaction to the announcement of our latest signing was symptomatic of this. Some of the shouts I hear in the stands are embarrassing.


I agree completely with this post and feel we are getting worse, there are so many who just want to post, scream or shout the negatives, that is not a support.

[7Hero]

feel free to shout some positives then, might cheers us up

[weecounty hibby]

Fans are the least of our issues. 15000 of us turned up and gave good backing to the team on Sunday up until it was clear the game was lost

[superfurryhibby]

IN a word no. All football teams have their share of moaning fans, Hibs are no different.

[CropleyWasGod]

I agree completely with this post and feel we are getting worse, there are so many who just want to post, scream or shout the negatives, that is not a support.

Qed

[Aldo]

What a negative and sour thread!

[fiolex1]

I think that the 40 years of mediocrity, apart from the 1 or 2 seasons of success have led us to be a fickle lot.

[Since452]

Just start winning games of football and the fans will be fine.

[rcarter1]

Hibs fans - like all fans - shoot themselves in the foot sometimes by making a bad situation worse. BUT you should go Tynecastle when their team doesnt produce the goods on a regular basis - i imagine you will not find it a happy or supportive place.

I agree though that biting your tongue has its merits sometimes

[Trinity Hibee]

Just start winning games of football and the fans will be fine.

This

[Pretty Boy]

Hibs fans are no different from fans of any other club.

I was at Tannadice on Saturday as I fancied taking in a game and that one had a certain curiosity factor. Dundee Utd huffed and puffed for most of the 1st half and their fans were getting tetchy. Every misplaced pass or heavy touch was greeted with howls of derision. I was at Preston v Leith a few weeks ago and a Leith fan was screaming abuse at a player to the point it ended in the player squaring up to him at HT. At the other end of the specturm years back I was at a Barcelona game when Rijkaard was the gaffer. They were getting beat and the boos and whistles were deafening and accompanied by a sea of people waving white flags of surrender. They had won the Champions League a few months before........

Fans react both to what they are seeing on the park and the general air around their club at any given time. Hibs are giving the fans little to be positive about at the moment so the reaction is inevitable.

[hibsfan7]

If you think hibs fans are moaners you should just listen to the celtic fans they moan all the time

[One Day Soon]

There's something a bit 'Reekie' about this thread.

[Mango Man]

I think that the 40 years of mediocrity, apart from the 1 or 2 seasons of success have led us to be a fickle lot.

Spot on, it's all about a bit of give and take between the fans and team, it's hard to be positive all the time when 9 times out of 10 Hibs will let you down. I'm sick of speaking to folk about Hibs now as I just can't help but be negative, there is nothing to grab on to at the moment.

It does feel like we have some weird curse about us.

[AngloHibs]

Off topic a bit, but the south stand paddock at the old Ayresome Park was known as the Chicken Run, such was the criticism often directed at Boro wingers or full backs. If a player was getting a particularly hard time the manager would sometimes switch him to the other side of the pitch, just to escape the abuse. A number of ex-Boro players have stated that they have never encountered such abuse from their own fans at any other club.

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/middlesbrough-boro-ayresome-park-crowds-12890562

[KWJ]

I do think we've become worse and that we've developed some sort of sense that we should always be doing better than we are despite history telling us otherwise. Impatience and vitriolic anger has become noisier and more widespread.

But I agree with the other posts that we can't be the only ones in Scotland/Britain and it's probably more of a culture thing.

Still a bit ***** though.

[KWJ]

Spot on, it's all about a bit of give and take between the fans and team, it's hard to be positive all the time when 9 times out of 10 Hibs will let you down. I'm sick of speaking to folk about Hibs now as I just can't help but be negative, there is nothing to grab on to at the moment.

It does feel like we have some weird curse about us.

I hear you. I do believe that by experiencing the lows of relegation and consistently losing cup finals gives you a greater joy on those rare and blissful wins. However, I worry what would happen should another Butcher or Duffy era come for the many about just now (here, on socials and in fewer numbers but just as loud and apoplectic) who are in danger of imploding when we're midtable having another bang average season like the majority in our history.

[Chorley Hibee]

Frankly, I'm fed up hearing that we (the fans) are part of the problem.

In my near 40 years following Hibs home and away, I could point to many people or incidents responsible for the repeated failure of the club to fulfill their potential, or even to punch their weight.

At no point would the fans be on that list.

It's because of the fans that we still have a club today, and it's an insult to pass the failures of people in senior positions at ER on to the many thousands who have continued to prop the club up throughout.

The club are incredibly fortunate they have such a dedicated fan base.

[MelbourneHibees]

We are 2 back to back wins away from turning this season around.

[Green_one]

Amongst the most negative and sour I’ve ever met. Are we not part of our own downfall? The reaction to the announcement of our latest signing was symptomatic of this. Some of the shouts I hear in the stands are embarrassing.

Rubbish.

ALL fans moan. Look at any site

Hibs fan have more to moan about than most. Our failures easily outweigh our successes

Our support overall has proven remarkably loyal and resilient Look at season tickets

Look for the problem elsewhere. Solve those and the moaning will evaporate. Simples.

[Pretty Boy]

I hear you. I do believe that by experiencing the lows of relegation and consistently losing cup finals gives you a greater joy on those rare and blissful wins. However, I worry what would happen should another Butcher or Duffy era come for the many about just now (here, on socials and in fewer numbers but just as loud and apoplectic) who are in danger of imploding when we're midtable having another bang average season like the majority in our history.

My issue is that the last few years really shouldn't have been bang average. It might be unprecedented in our short to mid term history but since 2016 we really should have had at least one other major trophy in the cabinet. It was unprecedented for St Johnstone as well and they trebled their major trophy haul in a single season.

I don't want to rake up the 'Jack Ross, big game' stuff but losing to a Hearts side that was huffing and puffing in the Championship in the manner we did in a Scottish Cup semi final was poor, losing to St Johnstone in a LC semi final was poor (albeit we should have won that game in the 1st half, we didn't and imploded) and losing to St Johnstone in the Scottish Cup Final with one of the most insipid, uninspiring, lethargic performances I have ever seen was utterly shocking. Add to that we were in pole position to take advantage of group stage European football and failed to capitalise with a succession of disastrous transfer windows and we have been going backwards ever since (and the downward spiral started when Ross was still here, not after he was 'hounded out'). The less said about how prepared we were for a SC semi final last season the better, another abject failure on every level.

Long spells of mediocrity I can handle, passing up golden opportunities largely due to gross incompetence is another matter.

[hibeerealist]

My issue is that the last few years really shouldn't have been bang average. It might be unprecedented in our short to mid term history but since 2016 we really should have had at least one other major trophy in the cabinet. It was unprecedented for St Johnstone as well and they trebled their major trophy haul in a single season.

I don't want to rake up the 'Jack Ross, big game' stuff but losing to a Hearts side that was huffing and puffing in the Championship in the manner we did in a Scottish Cup semi final was poor, losing to St Johnstone in a LC semi final was poor (albeit we should have won that game in the 1st half, we didn't and imploded) and losing to St Johnstone in the Scottish Cup Final with one of the most insipid, uninspiring, lethargic performances I have ever seen was utterly shocking. Add to that we were in pole position to take advantage of group stage European football and failed to capitalise with a succession of disastrous transfer windows and we have been going backwards ever since (and the downward spiral started when Ross was still here, not after he was 'hounded out'). The less said about how prepared we were for a SC semi final last season the better, another abject failure on every level.

Long spells of mediocrity I can handle, passing up golden opportunities largely due to gross incompetence is another matter.


Spot on PB

[DH1875]

Who we compering ourselves against? Rangers, celtic, hearts? You never seen their fans when they are kite. If celtic had gone 40 years without winning the league you'd be lucky if there would be 10k at their games now.
And as others have pointed out. You never seen the Nou camp or the Bernabeu during a bad game yet alone a bead season. Get the hankies out.

[Frogga]

The issue isn't fans booing a shirked tackle or grumbling about a misplaced pass, the issue is the sheer level of abuse that our own fans are dishing out to players in a Hibs Jersey.

I remember Nisbet going down injured during his barren run last season and, clear as day, a fan shouts "I hope it's broken" as Nisbet lies in pain on the ground.

Some fans also seem to think it's cool/funny to shout this stuff and it's embarassing. I mean the majority of our fans are decent, reasonable people but there's a small minority who would be better off staying at home.

When I first started attending Hibs games I remember it being intimidating for the opposition, however I think it's probably become more intimidating for own players now.

And I don't agree that other clubs have this issue to the same degree. I remember reading an article which quoted an anonymous opposition manager as saying they'd been advised that to play against Hibs at ER all you need to do is frustrate Hibs on the field for the first 30mins and the fans will turn on the team. They implied that this was specific to Hibs and is well known among SPL managers.

[Stuart93]

It’s the fans fault

[Frogga]

It’s the fans fault

I don't think anyone's said it's the fans fault, however we should always be looking at what we can do to better help the team.

[Pretty Boy]

The issue isn't fans booing a shirked tackle or grumbling about a misplaced pass, the issue is the sheer level of abuse that our own fans are dishing out to players in a Hibs Jersey.

I remember Nisbet going down injured during his barren run last season and, clear as day, a fan shouts "I hope it's broken" as Nisbet lies in pain on the ground.

Some fans also seem to think it's cool/funny to shout this stuff and it's embarassing. I mean the majority of our fans are decent, reasonable people but there's a small minority who would be better off staying at home.

When I first started attending Hibs games I remember it being intimidating for the opposition, however I think it's probably become more intimidating for own players now.

And I don't agree that other clubs have this issue to the same degree. I remember reading an article which quoted an anonymous opposition manager as saying they'd been advised that to play against Hibs at ER all you need to do is frustrate Hibs on the field for the first 30mins and the fans will turn on the team. They implied that this was specific to Hibs and is well known among SPL managers.

That was Terry Butcher.

It took a lot less than 30 minutes to get frustrated and turn on the team when watching one of his Hibs teams performances so he was onto something I suppose.

[chrisski33]

Amongst the most negative and sour I’ve ever met. Are we not part of our own downfall? The reaction to the announcement of our latest signing was symptomatic of this. Some of the shouts I hear in the stands are embarrassing.

No its just you! Hibs fans are the best. Maybe you should pop back to keekback

[Alfred E Newman]

I must remember to clap sportingly when Aberdeen bundle in the winner on Saturday.

[Bostonhibby]

I'm going to get my hands on a Cossack hat and kick it about a bit in protest, just in case my club is about to put itself into administration rather than pay it's debts.

That'll show em.

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[greenlex]

We are no worse or better than any clubs fans. It’s Fitba. It’s a passionate tribal sport. I have to add this place is ****ing mental at times. Folk going off like rockets on nothing more than rumour. Puts me off logging on to be honest.

[The Wireless]

We are a disgrace.
The only disgrace at ER is the performance of our board and thank goodness we have mouthy fans who can see through them.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

We are no worse or better than any clubs fans. It’s Fitba. It’s a passionate tribal sport. I have to add this place is ****ing mental at times. Folk going off like rockets on nothing more than rumour. Puts me off logging on to be honest.

It’s madness, if anyone doesn’t want to play for Hibernian they can get so far to **** as far as I’m concerned. If KN leaves hibs will go on, no one is bigger than the club


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[NAE NOOKIE]

Amongst the most negative and sour I’ve ever met. Are we not part of our own downfall? The reaction to the announcement of our latest signing was symptomatic of this. Some of the shouts I hear in the stands are embarrassing.

Here's how it works pal. The only criticism worthy of aiming at the fans is when they don't actually turn out to support their club during the bad times.

That aside they are perfectly entitled to bitch, moan and whine as much as they bloody like on here or inside the stadium and at the moment there's plenty of reason to do just that. We are no different from fans of any club in the world when it comes to that, including whatever club it is you support.

[scoopyboy]

Fans are the least of our issues. 15000 of us turned up and gave good backing to the team on Sunday up until it was clear the game was lost

Well said that man

[Svengali]

My issue is that the last few years really shouldn't have been bang average. It might be unprecedented in our short to mid term history but since 2016 we really should have had at least one other major trophy in the cabinet. It was unprecedented for St Johnstone as well and they trebled their major trophy haul in a single season.

I don't want to rake up the 'Jack Ross, big game' stuff but losing to a Hearts side that was huffing and puffing in the Championship in the manner we did in a Scottish Cup semi final was poor, losing to St Johnstone in a LC semi final was poor (albeit we should have won that game in the 1st half, we didn't and imploded) and losing to St Johnstone in the Scottish Cup Final with one of the most insipid, uninspiring, lethargic performances I have ever seen was utterly shocking. Add to that we were in pole position to take advantage of group stage European football and failed to capitalise with a succession of disastrous transfer windows and we have been going backwards ever since (and the downward spiral started when Ross was still here, not after he was 'hounded out'). The less said about how prepared we were for a SC semi final last season the better, another abject failure on every level.

Long spells of mediocrity I can handle, passing up golden opportunities largely due to gross incompetence is another matter.

This is where I am. I agree what OP says about us writing players off too early but at the same time thats came from the dross we’ve been signing.

The club do themselves no favours as we have a habit of shooting ourselves in the foot. We’ve had mediocrity for years, when nobody outside OF is bigger than us. We should have high standards. None of
This top 4 p1sh. Let’s start talking up top 3 like those plebs in Maroon

[DH1875]

This is where I am. I agree what OP says about us writing players off too early but at the same time thats came from the dross we’ve been signing.

The club do themselves no favours as we have a habit of shooting ourselves in the foot. We’ve had mediocrity for years, when nobody outside OF is bigger than us. We should have high standards. None of
This top 4 p1sh. Let’s start talking up top 3 like those plebs in Maroon

I dont even mind top 4 talk. Its when folk bang on about us making top 6, as if finishing 6th is some sort off achievement. Does my head in.

[Islington Hibs]

The original post has some validity. Sure Hibs have many loyal fans and size of the support is significant given the years of underperformance but there is a small proportion of supporters who are way too negative and quick to turn on team/ manager/ owner. They in my view undermine the club through intense negativity and introspection of every decision adding to short termism and decline.

Of course we want to win but I do think the expectations of some of our support are wholly unrealistic given the resources the club has and structure of the Scottish game. We should calm down, enjoy the day out and try and be positive. I really hope the owner/ manager does not read this site for if they do I think they would walk away. They are only human and doing their best too.

[Since452]

I have been critical of fans in the past but not this time. People are parting with good money during a cost of living crisis and watching our owner/board oversee a worrying decline on the park. Not just a bad spell but a steady decline over two or three seasons. People are sick of it, especially with our city rivals being managed correctly and reaping the rewards from it. I'm worried the decline is going to culminate in another adventure in the Championship. We're floating about in a stagnant stage that reminds me of the Calderwood era.

[The Modfather]

I do think we've become worse and that we've developed some sort of sense that we should always be doing better than we are despite history telling us otherwise. Impatience and vitriolic anger has become noisier and more widespread.

But I agree with the other posts that we can't be the only ones in Scotland/Britain and it's probably more of a culture thing.

Still a bit ***** though.

What’s the point building our own training centre, upgrading the stadium, or increasing revenue to the recent levels and increasing the playing budget in line with the improved revenue if we should only ever expect mid table mediocrity punctuated by a fleeting good season as per our history?

[Alfred E Newman]

I dont even mind top 4 talk. Its when folk bang on about us making top 6, as if finishing 6th is some sort off achievement. Does my head in.

The only prize for making top 6 is another doing at Tynecastle.

[mcfly]

I have been critical of fans in the past but not this time. People are parting with good money during a cost of living crisis and watching our owner/board oversee a worrying decline on the park. Not just a bad spell but a steady decline over two or three seasons. People are sick of it, especially with our city rivals being managed correctly and reaping the rewards from it. I'm worried the decline is going to culminate in another adventure in the Championship. We're floating about in a stagnant stage that reminds me of the Calderwood era.

I think you are right and that’s how I feel.

Cost of living crisis makes it harder for some people to afford a season ticket

This in no way makes you any less of a fan in not being able to renew but what about people who are just fed up the way the club is run? It will be harder to persuade them to come back.

We need some acknowledgment from the CEO what he is doing to sort out this mess he has helped to create.

[loanheadhibby]

I dont even mind top 4 talk. Its when folk bang on about us making top 6, as if finishing 6th is some sort off achievement. Does my head in.

I agree but that's how far we've sunk in a lot of fans expectations.
And to be fair our squad is probably bottom 6 at the moment.
To be behind St Mirren and Livingston is an absolute disgrace.

[lyonhibs]

Well said that man

Imagine a world where, with all the obvious things going so very, very wrong at Hibs, it's the fans getting it in the neck.

Oh lol, what a world that would be.

Wait...... what?!?!?

[loanheadhibby]

We are 2 back to back wins away from turning this season around.

Are you for real?
Chances are we won't but as good as two wins would be it would only be a short term fix.
The situation the club is in is an absolute disgrace.