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Torto7062
16-01-2023, 07:13 PM
Hopefully his Hanlon Stevenson Foundation keep going after he goes to his new club

Unseen work
16-01-2023, 07:15 PM
Qots

Torto7
16-01-2023, 07:16 PM
Hopefully his Hanlon Stevenson Foundation keep going after he goes to his new club

He's got a new club?

Torto7062
16-01-2023, 07:17 PM
Qots

That's would be some drop

Bridge hibs
16-01-2023, 07:19 PM
Hopefully his Hanlon Stevenson Foundation keep going after he goes to his new club
New club ?

Unseen work
16-01-2023, 07:19 PM
That's would be some drop

Meant to put a question mark after it as saw someone mention it on Twitter too.

Huge drop as too as you say, think some premiership teams would take him, or a Queen’s Park type of team

Torto7062
16-01-2023, 07:20 PM
Just speculation but seeing as he's been dropped surely he'll want game time

Billy Whizz
16-01-2023, 07:21 PM
Just speculation but seeing as he's been dropped surely he'll want game time

He’s injured

Bridge hibs
16-01-2023, 07:21 PM
Just speculation but seeing as he's been dropped surely he'll want game time
Dropped or injured ?

04Sauzee
16-01-2023, 07:22 PM
Just speculation but seeing as he's been dropped surely he'll want game time

That was some speculation tbf, the post made it sound like he had a new club, unless off course it's just the way I interpreted it.

greenlex
16-01-2023, 07:23 PM
He’s injured
We will probably sign him.

basehibby
16-01-2023, 07:25 PM
That was some speculation tbf, the post made it sound like he had a new club, unless off course it's just the way I interpreted it.

The OP seems to be following a current trend of over-egging the pudding with wildly speculative thread titles

Since452
16-01-2023, 07:27 PM
He'll probably find himself back in the team if Porteous moves on. Don't think he'll be away this window.

MWHIBBIES
16-01-2023, 07:27 PM
Probably not the ending such a legend deserves. Has struggled overall this season, though. Cracking player for us for many years.

Torto7062
16-01-2023, 07:30 PM
The OP seems to be following a current trend of over-egging the pudding with wildly speculative thread titles

Over Egging The Pudding 🍮 love it

B.H.F.C
16-01-2023, 07:31 PM
Not been good at all this season but I’d be amazed if he was away this month.

oconnors_strip
16-01-2023, 07:32 PM
Hopefully his Hanlon Stevenson Foundation keep going after he goes to his new club

The Hanlon Stevenson Foundation has nothing to do with Hibs as a football club, the only connection is the two founders play for Hibs. so when Paul and Lewis eventually leave Hibs it won’t affect their amazing charity!

Torto7062
16-01-2023, 07:35 PM
The Hanlon Stevenson Foundation has nothing to do with Hibs as a football club, the only connection is the two founders play for Hibs. so when Paul and Lewis eventually leave Hibs it won’t affect their amazing charity!

That kinda answers my OP Thanks mate, community work he's done has been great

Hermit Crab
16-01-2023, 07:35 PM
He's defo for the exit door but I can't see it being this month. Probably the summer he gets told he's free to find a new club.

the_ginger_hibee
16-01-2023, 07:37 PM
Would be good to get Hanlon off wage bill now so we can strengthen in January. Hasn't been good enough for a long time.

Ronniekirk
16-01-2023, 07:38 PM
Probably not the ending such a legend deserves. Has struggled overall this season, though. Cracking player for us for many years.
He is not away anywhere , just injured

Billy Whizz
16-01-2023, 07:38 PM
He's defo for the exit door but I can't see it being this month. Probably the summer he gets told he's free to find a new club.

Had a lot injuries last few seasons, and had an op pre season. 15 years of playing 1st team football from an early age has hit him hard of late
I think he’s got another season in him at this level, if he can get fit

MWHIBBIES
16-01-2023, 07:41 PM
He is not away anywhere , just injured

Okay.

I'm commenting on the rumor, though. I know he's injured.

Billy Whizz
16-01-2023, 07:44 PM
Okay.

I'm commenting on the rumor, though. I know he's injured.

Hopefully back for Sunday is the plan

Hermit Crab
16-01-2023, 07:49 PM
Had a lot injuries last few seasons, and had an op pre season. 15 years of playing 1st team football from an early age has hit him hard of late
I think he’s got another season in him at this level, if he can get fit


IMHO absolutely no chance he's got another season in him in the top flight, not with Hibs anyway. He's cost us a lot of goals this season with mistakes and poor play. Sorry Billy, I think his time with us is up. Great servant and all that but its time to move on.

Onceinawhile
16-01-2023, 07:52 PM
IMHO absolutely no chance he's got another season in him in the top flight, not with Hibs anyway. He's cost us a lot of goals this season with mistakes and poor play. Sorry Billy, I think his time with us is up. Great servant and all that but its time to move on.

Agreed. Sad to see, but top end of the championship is closer to where he should be now.

Mind you, that could still be with us.

LunasBoots
16-01-2023, 07:53 PM
So in the team on Sunday then 😁

Smartie
16-01-2023, 07:59 PM
Form is temporary, class is permanent.

His play over the last month has been indefensible and I’d be concerned about signs of permanent decline if he was 2 or 3 years older but he’s young for us to be writing off just yet.

The Lee Johnson chaos football approach doesn’t seem to suit him, surprisingly.

Hibbyradge
16-01-2023, 07:59 PM
Hopefully his Hanlon Stevenson Foundation keep going after he goes to his new club

Yeah, I hear he's leaving Duddingston to join Turnhouse.

Since452
16-01-2023, 08:17 PM
Hopefully back for Sunday is the plan

Hopefully on the bench and not in the team.

silverhibee
16-01-2023, 09:43 PM
Meant to put a question mark after it as saw someone mention it on Twitter too.

Huge drop as too as you say, think some premiership teams would take him, or a Queen’s Park type of team

He isn’t going to QOTS.

Vault Boy
16-01-2023, 09:46 PM
Form is temporary, class in permanent.

His last month is indefensible and I’d be concerned if he was 2 or 3 years older but he’s young for us to be writing off.

The Lee Johnson chaos football approach doesn’t seem to suit him, surprisingly.

Completely with you on this.

He’s had sticky spells before and I don’t see how this one is unrecoverable. Once we’re in less of a **** state, I hope Paul will remain a valuable part of a refreshed squad under new guidance.

Moreover, the suggestion that football isn’t about sentimentality just doesn’t sit right with me. It is a bit, that’s why it’s such an emotive hobby. He deserves better. He’s earned better.

silverhibee
16-01-2023, 09:47 PM
Not been good at all this season but I’d be amazed if he was away this month.

I’ll say it again, he has put his body through the pain barrier for this club and his injuries are now catching up with him, great servant to the club and will leave in the summer, don’t know if the club has plans to keep him on in some kind of coaching capacity.

WeeRussell
16-01-2023, 11:15 PM
I’ll say it again, he has put his body through the pain barrier for this club and his injuries are now catching up with him, great servant to the club and will leave in the summer, don’t know if the club has plans to keep him on in some kind of coaching capacity.

If we don’t know about any coaching plans for him from the club, surely you’re not so sure he’ll leave in the summer?

JimBHibees
17-01-2023, 05:47 AM
I’ll say it again, he has put his body through the pain barrier for this club and his injuries are now catching up with him, great servant to the club and will leave in the summer, don’t know if the club has plans to keep him on in some kind of coaching capacity.

Absolutely fantastic servant to the club. Depressing lack of respect shown to him at times.

JimBHibees
17-01-2023, 05:49 AM
He isn’t going to QOTS.

Wouldn't have thought that pitch would suit him for a start. Suppose if offered a player coach role might suit him.

Brightside
17-01-2023, 06:19 AM
IMHO absolutely no chance he's got another season in him in the top flight, not with Hibs anyway. He's cost us a lot of goals this season with mistakes and poor play. Sorry Billy, I think his time with us is up. Great servant and all that but its time to move on.

Are we getting rid of all the players that cost us goals when he doesn’t play? PH will be back to being more than good enough once we have a manager that realises defending as a team is important. Until then it won’t matter who is in his position.

green day
17-01-2023, 06:23 AM
Are we getting rid of all the players that cost us goals when he doesn’t play? PH will be back to being more than good enough once we have a manager that realises defending as a team is important. Until then it won’t matter who is in his position.

Similar to the Lewis Stevenson issue v Dundee Utd - left horribly exposed on the left wing by the managers bizarre formation.

Smartie
17-01-2023, 06:26 AM
If we don’t know about any coaching plans for him from the club, surely you’re not so sure he’ll leave in the summer?

Were the contracts agreed a while back for Gray, McGregor, Stevenson and Hanlon not specifically geared at helping them all manage a transition over time from playing into coaching roles with us, albeit they were agreed under a previous regime?

7Hero
17-01-2023, 06:26 AM
If the club was being ran properly then surely Paul (and Lewis) both loyal hard working pros wouldn't need to be depended on week after week. They are at the stage of their career where they should be winding down and passing on their experience to the young kids, both thoroughly deserving of better. Sad to see the abuse for a guy who just gets on with doing his job, not his fault he's picked.

jeffers
17-01-2023, 06:33 AM
Lewis is 35, so hardly surprising he’s not as good as he once was. Paul on the other hand is younger and isn’t close to being finished imo. Yes he’s not been great this season, but playing through illness and injury won’t have helped him. Some players probably do deserve criticism, but in Lewis and Paul we have two model professionals who give their all every time they pull on a Hibs jersey. I’d like to think they deserve a bit more respect than they receive on here.

MWHIBBIES
17-01-2023, 06:38 AM
Similar to the Lewis Stevenson issue v Dundee Utd - left horribly exposed on the left wing by the managers bizarre formation.

And his lazy teammates. Don't forget them.

h1bs4life
17-01-2023, 06:47 AM
Were the contracts agreed a while back for Gray, McGregor, Stevenson and Hanlon not specifically geared at helping them all manage a transition over time from playing into coaching roles with us, albeit they were agreed under a previous regime?

Gray and McGregor where given 4 year playing / coaching contracts.
Stevenson was given a years extension Hanlon 2.5 years extension under Jack Ross bizarrely not long before he was sacked.
Not any of the group of players who got extensions fault but why would the club offer extensions to anyone when they were even thinking about getting rid of the manager.
Time for all 4 to move on and get playing / coaching experience at other clubs see how they work and hopefully they will be back in the future

Brightside
17-01-2023, 06:54 AM
Gray and McGregor where given 4 year playing / coaching contracts.
Stevenson was given a years extension Hanlon 2.5 years extension under Jack Ross bizarrely not long before he was sacked.
Not any of the group of players who got extensions fault but why would the club offer extensions to anyone when they were even thinking about getting rid of the manager.
Time for all 4 to move on and get playing / coaching experience at other clubs see how they work and hopefully they will be back in the future

“Hibsforlife”. But you’d happily remove the only thing that is hibsforlife right now.

Since452
17-01-2023, 07:09 AM
Lewis is 35, so hardly surprising he’s not as good as he once was. Paul on the other hand is younger and isn’t close to being finished imo. Yes he’s not been great this season, but playing through illness and injury won’t have helped him. Some players probably do deserve criticism, but in Lewis and Paul we have two model professionals who give their all every time they pull on a Hibs jersey. I’d like to think they deserve a bit more respect than they receive on here.

I feel far more comfortable with Stevenson in the team than Hanlon. Hanlon cannot deal with a physical striker and hasn't been able to for years now. We've needed a new CB for three or four seasons now. Players must relish playing against Hanlon. Sorry if that upsets people but it's true model pro or not. Hanlon should be used sparingly if at all.

Heisenberg
17-01-2023, 07:13 AM
Hanlon has been very poor this season but we don’t have any other left sided central defenders. We’ve needed another one in the squad since Lennon was here and it’s never properly been sorted.

Stevenson also shouldn’t still be playing every week at 35. Another very poor look for our recruitment over recent years.

Brightside
17-01-2023, 07:17 AM
I feel far more comfortable with Stevenson in the team than Hanlon. Hanlon cannot deal with a physical striker and hasn't been able to for years now. We've needed a new CB for three or four seasons now. Players must relish playing against Hanlon. Sorry if that upsets people but it's true model pro or not. Hanlon should be used sparingly if at all.

it’s not true it’s just your opinion. In the same way I don’t think that is the case. He’s had plenty games were he has dealt with physical strikers and his “duel” percentage remains high for his position. He will get done by a pacey striker more often these days as he’s clearly lost of bit of pace. Playing with a recurring hamstring issue want help that.

jeffers
17-01-2023, 07:51 AM
it’s not true it’s just your opinion. In the same way I don’t think that is the case. He’s had plenty games were he has dealt with physical strikers and his “duel” percentage remains high for his position. He will get done by a pacey striker more often these days as he’s clearly lost of bit of pace. Playing with a recurring hamstring issue want help that.

:agree: Agreed. Not saying he’s had a good season, but there are factors. Would be nice if our manager acknowledged them.

ozhibs
17-01-2023, 10:28 AM
Absolutely fantastic servant to the club. Depressing lack of respect shown to him at times.

My thoughts exactly, he has been a great service to the club, and it sounds like he has been playing with an injury
GGTTH

Onceinawhile
17-01-2023, 01:08 PM
Gray and McGregor where given 4 year playing / coaching contracts.
Stevenson was given a years extension Hanlon 2.5 years extension under Jack Ross bizarrely not long before he was sacked.
Not any of the group of players who got extensions fault but why would the club offer extensions to anyone when they were even thinking about getting rid of the manager.
Time for all 4 to move on and get playing / coaching experience at other clubs see how they work and hopefully they will be back in the future

I mean, David Gray is getting plenty coaching experience with us no? Why would we move him on?

Smartie
17-01-2023, 02:26 PM
I mean, David Gray is getting plenty coaching experience with us no? Why would we move him on?

And he's arguably shown more competence when in temp charge than Maloney or Johnson have when in the position permanently...

MWHIBBIES
17-01-2023, 02:44 PM
And he's arguably shown more competence when in temp charge than Maloney or Johnson have when in the position permanently...

He hasn't, no. Infact, we've been absolutely awful since he became a coach. If Johnson goes, that's 3 he'll have seen off. He should really go as well.

scoopyboy
17-01-2023, 03:02 PM
And he's arguably shown more competence when in temp charge than Maloney or Johnson have when in the position permanently...

He really hasn't

WeeRussell
17-01-2023, 04:45 PM
He hasn't, no. Infact, we've been absolutely awful since he became a coach. If Johnson goes, that's 3 he'll have seen off. He should really go as well.

For someone that loses the plot arguing with people criticising poor performing players after a bad game, you seem to have an irrational dislike of club legend David Gray. Weren’t you trying to blame him for LJ’s team getting beat off lower league sides in the cup the other day too?

Obviously fine not to rate him highly as a coach, but what is it about David Gray you think makes him specifically culpable for our poor displays over the last couple of seasons?

Do you think he was doing his job okay when Ross shouldn’t have been sacked?

Jones28
17-01-2023, 04:48 PM
And he's arguably shown more competence when in temp charge than Maloney or Johnson have when in the position permanently...

Sorry Smartie I don’t agree, I saw nothing from Gray and I was really disappointed.

Lago
17-01-2023, 04:55 PM
And he's arguably shown more competence when in temp charge than Maloney or Johnson have when in the position permanently...
Nope not for me he hasn't, looked lost time.

greenpaper55
17-01-2023, 05:53 PM
The fact that Hanlon and Stevenson are anywhere near the side is two of the reasons we are where we are in the league, there is no room for sentiment in football and while its sad to see two players of long standing leaving you have to balance that up with the fact they have been well rewarded down the years much more than most on this forum.

supermcginn
17-01-2023, 05:57 PM
The fact that Hanlon and Stevenson are anywhere near the side is two of the reasons we are where we are in the league, there is no room for sentiment in football and while its sad to see two players of long standing leaving you have to balance that up with the fact they have been well rewarded down the years much more than most on this forum.

Exactly, some people really seem to care about those 2 players more than the team as a whole. I'm sure it won't be their fault if they both suffer another derby humiliation on Sunday. Their record against hearts is an absolute disgrace.

Smartie
17-01-2023, 05:59 PM
Ah well, I probably can’t even get out of this one by pointing to my use of “arguably”.

Just thought he made a decent fist of the cup final vs Celtic and had us looking a bit more robust than we had been last December (whilst forgetting the finer details).

I missed the Dens Park debacle at the end of last season which seemed to negatively influence quite a lot of people’s thinking on Gray and Jasper amongst others.

WeeRussell
17-01-2023, 06:03 PM
Exactly, some people really seem to care about those 2 players more than the team as a whole. I'm sure it won't be their fault if they both suffer another derby humiliation on Sunday. Their record against hearts is an absolute disgrace.

Without arguing that either of these legend should be starting in our team just now, do you honestly think our biggest problems lie with them right now?

And does every player that’s played with over the last 30 years or so have an “absolute disgrace” of a derby record, or is it just these two that carry that can, by virtue of their outstanding long service?

MWHIBBIES
17-01-2023, 06:11 PM
For someone that loses the plot arguing with people criticising poor performing players after a bad game, you seem to have an irrational dislike of club legend David Gray. Weren’t you trying to blame him for LJ’s team getting beat off lower league sides in the cup the other day too?

Obviously fine not to rate him highly as a coach, but what is it about David Gray you think makes him specifically culpable for our poor displays over the last couple of seasons?

Do you think he was doing his job okay when Ross shouldn’t have been sacked?

No dislike of Gray. Club legend, warrior on the park and a very decent player for us. Responsible for the best day of my life. I'll never forget how he lead us to that trophy.

I've no idea. He began coaching when everything began to go down hill on the pitch. It's possible he has a part to play in that.

In a way, I definitely would have expected him to know better than to field that side Vs Falkirk. Maybe Johnson ignored him.

Dolan and Taff get a lot of credit for Stubbs success. Maybe Gray and other coaches must take some stick for failings?

WeeRussell
17-01-2023, 06:25 PM
No dislike of Gray. Club legend, warrior on the park and a very decent player for us. Responsible for the best day of my life. I'll never forget how he lead us to that trophy.

I've no idea. He began coaching when everything began to go down hill on the pitch. It's possible he has a part to play in that.

In a way, I definitely would have expected him to know better than to field that side Vs Falkirk. Maybe Johnson ignored him.

Dolan and Taff get a lot of credit for Stubbs success. Maybe Gray and other coaches must take some stick for failings?

Fair enough. One thing I’ll give you is that he most likely doesn’t command the same levels of respect and awe that he would have received from the squad a few years ago, given the first team personnel.

I’d like to think he still has a significant role at the club though. We’ll likely find out at the next juncture.

Pedantic_Hibee
17-01-2023, 06:35 PM
If it were up to me I’d clear the lot of them out. Apart from Boyle, Nisbet, Magennis and Rocky. And maybe some others that I’ve missed. I’ve had wine.

southfieldhibby
17-01-2023, 06:46 PM
Yeah, I hear he's leaving Duddingston to join Turnhouse.
This is like leaving Hibs and signing for Hutchie Vale!