Manager Stay or Go?

[Hibs90]

Been a while since the last poll..

[e2los]

Can't believe anyone has any faith left in LJ.

Why is it taking so long to punt him?

Obviously there are major issues higher up, but our players surely aren't as bad as the results we are getting/deserving.

[Scottie]

Can't believe anyone has any faith left in LJ.

Why is it taking so long to punt him?

Obviously there are major issues higher up, but our players surely aren't as bad as the results we are getting/deserving.
The players are as bad as the results. They got Ross then Maloney sacked. How many more managers is it gonna take before we rid ourselves of this team of huddies ?

[Alex Trager]

The players are as bad as the results. They got Ross then Maloney sacked. How many more managers is it gonna take before we rid ourselves of this team of huddies ?

Absolutely agree.

The core of the players who have seen two, probably three soon, managers gone need to get to **** out of our club.

That’s not to say the manager should stay mind you.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Absolutely agree.

The core of the players who have seen two, probably three soon, managers gone need to get to **** out of our club.

That’s not to say the manager should stay mind you.

Joe Newell is about to see off his 4th. Heckingbottom, Ross, Maloney and LJ.

Stevenson and Hanlon are seeing off their god knows what but at least they don’t play every minute every week.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

The players are as bad as the results. They got Ross then Maloney sacked. How many more managers is it gonna take before we rid ourselves of this team of huddies ?

As many managers as it takes until we get one that is strong enough to tell the board that the current players need ****ing binned pronto.

[madhatter]

If manager goes then club need to clean deck properly. I have more faith in Johnson than many of the players. A fair few of them have seen many a manager sacked at Hibs.

Says everything that Stevenson does an interview almost every time we get a new manager. Must he sick of them, shame he, Hanlon, Porteous, Newell etc. havent got us fighting with everything they have. When will it click that they are largely responsible for the guy losing his job?

Players are the biggest problem at Hibs. Retirees, chronically injured, not good enough...

[madhatter]

As many managers as it takes until we get one that is strong enough to tell the board that the current players need ****ing binned pronto.

Is that not what Johnson has done?

[Fuzzywuzzy]

I left after 70 mins today. It was the first time I've ever left that early, even when losing. The football on offer was depressing.

[Alex Trager]

Joe Newell is about to see off his 4th. Heckingbottom, Ross, Maloney and LJ.

Stevenson and Hanlon are seeing off their god knows what but at least they don’t play every minute every week.

I was about to post exactly that originally but thought the post would lack a bit of punch due to the numbers

[Keith_M]

Can't believe anyone has any faith left in LJ.

Why is it taking so long to punt him?

Obviously there are major issues higher up, but our players surely aren't as bad as the results we are getting/deserving.


Sadly I think they are.


There are exceptions (e.g. Nisbet and McGeady) but there are far too many poor players.

[basehibby]

Can't believe anyone has any faith left in LJ.

Why is it taking so long to punt him?

Obviously there are major issues higher up, but our players surely aren't as bad as the results we are getting/deserving.

Some of us think a manager deserves more than 6 months. Can't seem to vote from my mobile but I would not be pulling any triggers at this stage.

[basehibby]

I left after 70 mins today. It was the first time I've ever left that early, even when losing. The football on offer was depressing.

The performance was disjointed but still a bizarre decision from you - game was very much in the balance at that stage - our equaliser was unsurprising even if it was late in the day.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

I'm a happy clapper, can't help it. But even I'm edging towards Johnson Out

Contentious due to evident failures after us, but bring JR back with DOF coming in?

[Ryan91]

Some of us think a manager deserves more than 6 months. Can't seem to vote from my mobile but I would not be pulling any triggers at this stage.

Can't keep sacking managers, each time a new man comes in, he wants to play his own brand of football, but is left with a cast of players who were brought in under previous managers to play their style of football, and as such is occasionally left with what he would see as square pegs for round holes.

Hibs won't progress as a club unless we have some sort of stability at the managerial position, in the past 15 years, I can think of only one manager that ended up lasting more than 2 years, and that was Lennon, and he lasted just a half year beyond that. All the other managers in that time frame have been in the job for less than 2 years before they were chased out. Stubbs is the exception to that as he left to go to Rotherham, but even then, after the result vs Falkirk in the playoff before the SC Final, I seem to recall that there were more than a few voices saying that Stubbs should go if we lost vs Rangers.

I get that things aren't looking rosy and really they haven't since that first season after we came up from the Championship, I get that we want to be successful and we want to be enjoying European Football on a regular basis, but I think that if we want that, we need to have a greater amount of patience with managers.

[cameronw-hfc]

Joe Newell is about to see off his 4th. Heckingbottom, Ross, Maloney and LJ.

Stevenson and Hanlon are seeing off their god knows what but at least they don’t play every minute every week.


Porto is about to see off his 5th manager. Not sure that stat means all that much.

[Onceinawhile]

Recruitment might be an issue, but watching the game on Sunday and thinking josh campbell should play at right back was an absolute dereliction of duty.

Get shot please.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Another manager appointed on the basis of a style of football 'fitting the history and traditions of the club' that has got nowhere near delivering what was promised.

I think we all agree recruitment has been the main issue, but today I didn't see any cohesion in our play whatsoever. Poor team selection, players out of position, complete failure to play through the thirds and players consistently look lift their heads and have no options on the ball.

Can accept players lacking quality if we could atleast see what they are trying to do. The signs aren't good.

Really hope he turns it round but I think the writing is on the wall and he won't get the next wave of squad overhaul he is looking for.

[One Day Soon]

His opening team selection today demonstrated two solid propositions.

The first is that by playing Porteous in midfield with all the consequences for our defence he was either gambling recklessly or being a clueless idiot.

The second is that what happens when Porteous is not playing in our defence is irrefutable evidence that those in charge need to dig deep to find a replacement for him fast. And that boys and girls is JUST TO STAND STILL with this toxic mess of a team and squad that we have.

He needs to go. The DoF needs appointed now. We need a caretaker manager now. And God knows whether we need to sign quality players now or whether the imbeciles responsible for the signings made to date need be kept a million miles away from any new signings until more competent people arrive.

[Gorgiehibee]

Has to go but who replaces him?


Who would take the job that is actually going to improve us, We have alot to do behind the scenes before we'll attract a decent manager.

[Brooster]

He's lost the dressing room, he has to go. No way back.

[marinello59]

He's lost the dressing room, he has to go. No way back.

How do we know that?

[Brooster]

How do we know that?

Take it from me....the dressing room has gone.

[pacoluna]

Doesn't take a genius to see/accept that guardiola couldn't get a tune out that lot!

[Heisenberg]

He’s continually making completely bizarre decisions. This group of players are very poor and I don’t want to stick up for them because they’ve let previous managers down but LJ really isn’t helping himself.

The club has kind of backed itself into a corner with the DOF thing. If we bin LJ then do the same folk get to appoint a new manager? Or do we try and rush in a DOF to then select a new manager?

If we lose next weekend then I can see it reaching a toxic level in the ground and that’s when Ron usually acts. Ben Kensell was far from happy throughout the game yesterday either from what I’ve heard. Absolutely fuming at times.

[Yorkshire HFC]

He’s continually making completely bizarre decisions. This group of players are very poor and I don’t want to stick up for them because they’ve let previous managers down but LJ really isn’t helping himself.

The club has kind of backed itself into a corner with the DOF thing. If we bin LJ then do the same folk get to appoint a new manager? Or do we try and rush in a DOF to then select a new manager?

If we lose next weekend then I can see it reaching a toxic level in the ground and that’s when Ron usually acts. Ben Kensell was far from happy throughout the game yesterday either from what I’ve heard. Absolutely fuming at times.

I'm sure a lot of the people wanting rid of him are the same people who wanted rid of Nisbet when he had a bad run of form before his injury, who want Porteous to be sold asap, who said McGeady isn't interested etc. A lot of people love it when times are hard and they can slag off Hibs. I guess that's the point of the internet.

[Forza Fred]

It’s the players that need to go.

We are all victims of abysmal recruiting that has left us with many players who are simply not good enough

[Vault Boy]

We’re delaying the inevitable by keeping him and tanking morale in the process.

If we want the new DOF involved in the recruitment process of our new manager, which I don’t think is a bad idea at all, then we should appoint an interim - not just blindly hang on to Johnson.

The writing is on the wall and the only thing uniting the players is a mutual dislike of the manager. That’s no good in the scrap we’re in.

[Pretty Boy]

We’re delaying the inevitable by keeping him and tanking morale in the process.

If we want the new DOF involved in the recruitment process of our new manager, which I don’t think is a bad idea at all, then we should appoint an interim - not just blindly hang on to Johnson.

The writing is on the wall and the only thing uniting the players is a mutual dislike of the manager. That’s no good in the scrap we’re in.

I said that on the match day thread yesterday.

Punt Johnson and try to provoke a reaction for the Hearts game. That's a one off and, as with all cup football, a must win. If we go in with LJ in charge we will most likely lose. Try someone new and see if it sparks something. We are going to be mediocre to poor in the medium term anyway so having Johnson or an interim lead that is six and two 3s. Take our time with the next permanent appointment and have the DoF involved so we can have 2 people singing from the same song sheet about the kind of player we want and need to sign and the football we want to play. Everything at the moment is so disjointed across the football operation. As bad as it has been in the best part of a decade, if not longer.

I'm at the point where I would even accept Steve Kean as an interim and that says everything about how I now feel about Johnson.

[flash]

I pressed in by mistake after a few beers last night.

I want him out but fear it ain't happening anytime soon.

[jeffers]

I pressed in by mistake after a few beers last night.

I want him out but fear it ain't happening anytime soon.

I’m now blaming you flash for him getting longer !

[Just_Jimmy]

Can't keep sacking managers, each time a new man comes in, he wants to play his own brand of football, but is left with a cast of players who were brought in under previous managers to play their style of football, and as such is occasionally left with what he would see as square pegs for round holes.

Hibs won't progress as a club unless we have some sort of stability at the managerial position, in the past 15 years, I can think of only one manager that ended up lasting more than 2 years, and that was Lennon, and he lasted just a half year beyond that. All the other managers in that time frame have been in the job for less than 2 years before they were chased out. Stubbs is the exception to that as he left to go to Rotherham, but even then, after the result vs Falkirk in the playoff before the SC Final, I seem to recall that there were more than a few voices saying that Stubbs should go if we lost vs Rangers.

I get that things aren't looking rosy and really they haven't since that first season after we came up from the Championship, I get that we want to be successful and we want to be enjoying European Football on a regular basis, but I think that if we want that, we need to have a greater amount of patience with managers.That's fine and well but we shouldn't back a dud just because those before have also been crap.

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[Allant1981]

Nothing against posters discussing it or making yet another poll but think it's almost safe to say he isn't going to get sacked anytime soon, if they were going to do it then it would have been done already, they aren't going to sack him after a win and a draw(despite not playing well)

[WhileTheChief..]

I'm sure a lot of the people wanting rid of him are the same people who wanted rid of Nisbet when he had a bad run of form before his injury, who want Porteous to be sold asap, who said McGeady isn't interested etc. A lot of people love it when times are hard and they can slag off Hibs. I guess that's the point of the internet.


Really?? You really think this?? :rolleyes:

[NC1875]

Take it from me....the dressing room has gone.

Which is another reason to bin most of the squad. They’re absolutely garbage and down tools at every opportunity.

I want Johnson gone but the majority of this squad will see off the next manager in a few months as well. Must pinch themselves being paid to “play” football for a living.

[The Harp Awakes]

Nothing against posters discussing it or making yet another poll but think it's almost safe to say he isn't going to get sacked anytime soon, if they were going to do it then it would have been done already, they aren't going to sack him after a win and a draw(despite not playing well)

It all hinges on the result of the derby. If he wins it he'll be here for a while more. If he loses it, he'll be gone. No way would he survive 2 derby defeats within 3 weeks.

[H18 SFR]

He's lost the dressing room, he has to go. No way back.

If this is true then yet again the squad successfully demonstrate their lack of resilience. They are the problem, not successive managers.

[Stuart93]

If this is true then yet again the squad successfully demonstrate their lack of resilience. They are the problem, not successive managers.

LJ is a massive part of the problem

If we hired a decent manager it might make a difference

[Allant1981]

It all hinges on the result of the derby. If he wins it he'll be here for a while more. If he loses it, he'll be gone. No way would he survive 2 derby defeats within 3 weeks.

I just can't see it

[Unseen work]

I want us to stick with him, sign some quality and turn around our season.

The last thing I want is a new manager.

However, it has the feeling of inevitability about it. He will eventually get sacked, it’s just when.

[H18 SFR]

It all hinges on the result of the derby. If he wins it he'll be here for a while more. If he loses it, he'll be gone. No way would he survive 2 derby defeats within 3 weeks.

It’s a worrying strategy if this is the case. It’s not unlikely that Hearts may beat us in the league as well. Would that then mean that LJ’s replacement is on borrowed time as well? If we then managed to scrape top six and then lost again to them would LJ’s replacement then be up the road? At what point do we as a club and fan base say “this manager gets time regardless of derby results”?

[H18 SFR]

I want us to stick with him, sign some quality and turn around our season.

The last thing I want is a new manager.

However, it has the feeling of inevitability about it. He will eventually get sacked, it’s just when.

I agree with this. We need stability not another manager coming in and giving the current squad a fresh start.

[jeffers]

If this is true then yet again the squad successfully demonstrate their lack of resilience. They are the problem, not successive managers.

Disagree. Ross or Maloney didn’t lose the dressing room. Then you consider how many signings we made in the summer, a point that seems to be overlooked when there’s chat about the same players being responsible for another manager getting the sack.

[Steve20]

I think he’s a useless manager but until the people making the decisions on recruitment buck up their ideas, no manager will get anything from a group of players this bad. The squad is garbage.

[jeffers]

I think he’s a useless manager but until the people making the decisions on recruitment buck up their ideas, no manager will get anything from a group of players this bad. The squad is garbage.

Don’t disagree with him being useless, his time with us it’s hard to think otherwise, but I’d like to see a stronger manager come in. One who signs players using all possible options - the recruitment team, contacts he has in the game, players he’s worked with before etc. I’ll never understand in Johnson’s case, with the experience he has the only player he brought in that he’s worked with before is McGeady.

[RIP]

It’s the players that need to go.

We are all victims of abysmal recruiting that has left us with many players who are simply not good enough

How many players would you get rid of and what makes you think that the same number of better players will be joining Hibs this year?

Or is this just another example of playing FIFA on an XBox?

[where'stheslope]

I've finally had enough, Lee needs to go, and bring in a more experienced manager with some clue on how the club should be run!!!!

[CallumLaidlaw]

I've finally had enough, Lee needs to go, and bring in a more experienced manager with some clue on how the club should be run!!!!

What’s a more experienced manager? LJ has managed nearly 500 matches.


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[where'stheslope]

What’s a more experienced manager? LJ has managed nearly 500 matches.


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A manager who takes a player aside and helps him make the grade, Lee seems to just put players in position on a whim rather than where they should play.

[Allant1981]

I've finally had enough, Lee needs to go, and bring in a more experienced manager with some clue on how the club should be run!!!!

What's a manager got to do with how the club is run, he manages the footballers(nor very well at the moment in fairness)

[Steve20]

How many players would you get rid of and what makes you think that the same number of better players will be joining Hibs this year?

Or is this just another example of playing FIFA on an XBox?

So just keep garbage players because you worry we might not get any better players?

The acceptance of failure at this club is unreal. Already got people on the transfer thread saying Johnson shouldn't go because we're expected to lose to Hearts anyway. Now we can't get rid of the dross because we might not bring in better.

[Donegal Hibby]

A manager who takes a player aside and helps him make the grade, Lee seems to just put players in position on a whim rather than where they should play.
You tell me a manager who can take players like Mitchell and Henderson aside and helps make the grade ? And I will gladly want them appointed . And who is he playing out of position btw ?

[Vault Boy]

And who is he playing out of position btw ?

Josh Campbell, Ryan Porteous, Will Fish

[Donegal Hibby]

Josh Campbell, Ryan Porteous, Will Fish
Thanks VB , your totally right about all 3 players btw being played out of position though do see some logic in Porto in midfield though .

[Since452]

Take it from me....the dressing room has gone.

IF that's the case then maybe we need a clear out of the players that keep getting managers sacked rather than binning yet another manager after 5 minutes in the job. The players need to shape up or ship out. How many managers have Hanlon, Stevenson, Newell and even Porteous now seen off? Not saying they're the problem but as senior pros (Porteous in a leadership role) they should be making sure "the dressing room isn't gone". The other players need to remember who they're playing for and give themselves a shake and step up. Can't always be the managers fault. Honestly sick to the back teeth of mediocre players throwing the towel in. In fairness, a last minute goal on Saturday suggests they haven't.

[jeffers]

If that's the case then maybe we need a clear out of the players that keep getting managers sacked rather than binning yet another manager after 5 minutes in the job. The players need to shape up or ship out. How many managers have Hanlon, Stevenson, Newell and even Porteous now seen off? Not saying they're the problem but as senior pros they should be making sure "the dressing room isn't gone". The other players need to remember who they're playing for and give themselves a shake and step up. Can't always be the managers fault.

Sorry but to suggest model pros like Lewis Stevenson and Paul Hanlon have “seen managers off” is a total joke imo. If players aren’t good enough it’s not their fault, the guy selecting them every week needs to accept responsibility. Not forgetting just how many new players came in this summer, one of whom in Kenneh appears to have had a bust up with Johnson. Maybe in this instance it’s simply that the manager is a total prick.

[GreenCastle]

He's lost the dressing room, he has to go. No way back.

Considering your info is usually pretty spot on - slightly worrying to hear this.

If true another indicator that the culture at the club needs sorted and find players and a manager who can bring things together.

[Since452]

Sorry but to suggest model pros like Lewis Stevenson and Paul Hanlon have “seen managers off” is a total joke imo. If players aren’t good enough it’s not their fault, the guy selecting them every week needs to accept responsibility. Not forgetting just how many new players came in this summer, one of whom in Kenneh appears to have had a bust up with Johnson. Maybe in this instance it’s simply that the manager is a total prick.

He's selecting mediocre players because that's what he's been given or inherited. Looking like Maloney was in the same boat. The club don't just decide a DoF is required on a whim. To me that is an admission by the club that they keep letting managers down and they're trying to change it. Wouldn't surprise me if it was pushed by LJ.

[jeffers]

He's selecting mediocre players because that's what he's been given or inherited. Looking like Maloney was in the same boat. The club don't just decide a DoF is required on a whim. To me that is an admission by the club that they keep letting managers down and they're trying to change it. Wouldn't surprise me if it was pushed by LJ.

I doubt you’ll find anyone who disagrees our recruitment has been poor. I still think Johnson should have done better with the resources he has had available. While not going great it all seemed to have gone t1ts up after Celtic away.

I heard Johnson was against the appointment of a DoF, which wouldn’t surprise me. A semi competent one will see him for the clown he is.

[bigwheel]

I doubt you’ll find anyone who disagrees our recruitment has been poor. I still think Johnson should have done better with the resources he has had available. While not going great it all seemed to have gone t1ts up after Celtic away.

I heard Johnson was against the appointment of a DoF, which wouldn’t surprise me. A semi competent one will see him for the clown he is.

What do you think the impact has been of losing four out of five of his best players for a significant period of time? (nisbet , Magennis, McGeady, Boyle ). Only Porto is the top outfield player that’s been ever present, and he is away this window . Add in Myko who was turning into an important player , the manager has been without almost all his key players .

[Logie]

What do you think the impact has been of losing four out of five of his best players for a significant period of time? (nisbet , Magennis, McGeady, Boyle ). Only Porto is the top outfield player that’s been ever present, and he is away this window . Add in Myko who was turning into an important player , the manager has been without almost all his key players .

Fair point however does not explain his woeful tactics and playing multiple players out of position. Dundee utd game as most recent example 2 RB’s good enough for the bench but not good enough to play and instead hung Campbell out to dry in that position. Play to your strengths at all times and at least try to minimise the risks when we have key injuries, he’s not doing that imo

[jeffers]

What do you think the impact has been of losing four out of five of his best players for a significant period of time? (nisbet , Magennis, McGeady, Boyle ). Only Porto is the top outfield player that’s been ever present, and he is away this window . Add in Myko who was turning into an important player , the manager has been without almost all his key players .

Similar to a maloney then, yet Johnson is doing worse. Of course any manager would miss those players, but still doesn’t excuse his selections - Fish at right back for his first start, Porto in midfield, Campbell at right back while two of them sat on the bench……

[Donegal Hibby]

Similar to a maloney then, yet Johnson is doing worse. Of course any manager would miss those players, but still doesn’t excuse his selections - Fish at right back for his first start, Porto in midfield, Campbell at right back while two of them sat on the bench……
Porto is being played in midfield because our midfield is terrible , no drive in it at all , Porto has that and why it's not a ideal situation I can see why he's playing him there . Though you carry on jumping from thread to thread condemning the manager and maybe you will get your wish of " hoofball McInnes"" as the new manager.

[jeffers]

Porto is being played in midfield because our midfield is terrible , no drive in it at all , Porto has that and why it's not a ideal situation I can see why he's playing him there . Though you carry on jumping from thread to thread condemning the manager and maybe you will get your wish of " hoofball McInnes"" as the new manager.

That’ll be the midfield the manager watched before being appointed and deemed no signings bar an untested 19 year old was the answer. Yeah let’s play our best defender out of position though, where bar the odd tackle and pass looks totally lost. Still it makes sense to develop him in that role when he’s likely to be leaving this window. Interesting you only mention him though, ignore the bits about Campbell and Fish playing out of position too.

Thanks for your permission, bit rich when you are jumping from thread to thread telling us how good Johnson is based on, from what I can gather, no more than he’s done a no bad job elsewhere and we can’t keep sacking managers. Well apart from Maloney according to you, he deserved to go.

[Donegal Hibby]

That’ll be the midfield the manager watched before being appointed and deemed no signings bar an untested 19 year old was the answer. Yeah let’s play our best defender out of position though, where bar the odd tackle and pass looks totally lost. Still it makes sense to develop him in that role when he’s likely to be leaving this window. Interesting you only mention him though, ignore the bits about Campbell and Fish playing out of position too.

Thanks for your permission, bit rich when you are jumping from thread to thread telling us how good Johnson is based on, from what I can gather, no more than he’s done a no bad job elsewhere and we can’t keep sacking managers. Well apart from Maloney according to you, he deserved to go.
No club can keep signing midfielders when we are already bloated with them and what we have Newell , JDH , Campbell , Mcgennis , Kennah and Henderson are all on lengthy contracts and more than likely it's extremely hard to move them on and is one of the poorest midfields we have had in years imo Porto has in a lot of games been driving forward with the ball from defense which is something we are badly lacking in midfield which I can see why we are doing it . Our midfielders aren't bad players but are all lacking in certain qualities we need. Joe Newell is probably our best player though inconsistent and a luxury player the rest aren't good enough to carry at times . Henderson to me is one of the worst signings we have made and looks dreadful (Maloney signing and bad recruitment) before you blame the current manager for that one too! I don't think Porto does look lost there , did he not contribute to one of the goals in the Motherwell ?

Not ignoring the fish or Campbell being played at right back though if we had Cadden and miller who were both injured and had been fit they wouldn't have been played there , he could have played the young lad but maybe he thought he wasn't ready , who knows , i don't have all the answers or the footballing knowledge you have .We have had horrendous bad luck all year with injuries and haven't and won't get to play our strongest frontline this year. I've stated Johnson has done well in other jobs yes , I don't know if it will work out for him or not but 6 months and one transfer window isn't long enough to give any manager specially with the club admitting the whole recruitment side of things has been failure . Jack Ross and Maloney being the two previous manager's to lose there jobs in the past.

Its another time one of those times that I think is really bad to become a Hibs manager with two managers sacked , some really bad signings , a team in decline and a club that's signing structure has been changed and went to the dogs , this of course imo when the team is going badly isn't always a managers fault . Prime example of a manager losing his job with either bad backing or the lack of it is Liam manning who was at MK Dons . So far you have called him a clown , slaverer and p***k and god knows what else , Alex Miller said the abuse him in his family got was horrible maybe you should have a think about that one and yet you want to appoint a manager that condones sectarian comments ( strange).

Anyhow I'd like to see not just Johnson but any manager get more time at our club under these difficult circumstances and feel maybe our current manager has more of a knowledge now of what's wrong with everything at us rather than maybe taking in a new manager that mighten have a scoopy about the team and what's wrong with recruitment . Sadly I think Johnson won't last though , errors he's made but more than that a poor team , and a badly run football club at the moment though when the Hibs job does become available I will certainly be nominating you as manager as you seem to have all the answers 👍

[Basildon Hibs]

I'm sure a lot of the people wanting rid of him are the same people who wanted rid of Nisbet when he had a bad run of form before his injury, who want Porteous to be sold asap, who said McGeady isn't interested etc. A lot of people love it when times are hard and they can slag off Hibs. I guess that's the point of the internet.

Really? What a load of pish.

[basehibby]

That’ll be the midfield the manager watched before being appointed and deemed no signings bar an untested 19 year old was the answer. Yeah let’s play our best defender out of position though, where bar the odd tackle and pass looks totally lost. Still it makes sense to develop him in that role when he’s likely to be leaving this window. Interesting you only mention him though, ignore the bits about Campbell and Fish playing out of position too.

Thanks for your permission, bit rich when you are jumping from thread to thread telling us how good Johnson is based on, from what I can gather, no more than he’s done a no bad job elsewhere and we can’t keep sacking managers. Well apart from Maloney according to you, he deserved to go.

Campbell has, at various stages under different managers, been played all over the place. He's versatile, but it's emerging that his best place is attacking mid, but nevertheless, it's apparent that his energy and commitment were enough to make LJ want to use him as emergency RB rather than an untried rookie or Miller who is just returning from injury.

I'll give you that Fish at RB was a bit of a disaster, but it's not that unusual to introduce a young CB at full back - other than that he's been trying various ploys to get the max out of a limited pool with mixed results. I will acknowledge LJ has made mistakes - I don't think the sun shines oot his erchie - I am not foolish enough however to believe that sacking managers every six months at the first sign of trouble is a receipe for progress. So there you have it - Johnson must stay IMO - for the time being anyway.

[Man Down Under]

If he fails to improve the team after the transfer window it's probably safe to say he had his chance.

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[Greenio]

He's going no where and rightly so.

Can't keep on binning managers based on short term thinking.

I think the change in tactics to get the DOF has been a something both LJ and BK have been pushing for. While, what turned out to be a bad strategy of pick and hope signings based on the idea that you buy them young and sell them high, was coming from the Gordons, who have now agreed to back off and try a more solid path. (whilst telling them both they need to clear folk out before any cash gets made available)

You think LJ was pushing for Chris Mueller or some randos from Rainbow FC? Reeks of inexperience and the kind of throw the dice mentality that only comes when its your (or your fathers) cash.

I back everyone at the club to sort this out btw - and still fully believe RG is the best option for us just now

[cameronw-hfc]

He's going no where and rightly so.

Can't keep on binning managers based on short term thinking.

I think the change in tactics to get the DOF has been a something both LJ and BK have been pushing for. While, what turned out to be a bad strategy of pick and hope signings based on the idea that you buy them young and sell them high, was coming from the Gordons, who have now agreed to back off and try a more solid path. (whilst telling them both they need to clear folk out before any cash gets made available)

You think LJ was pushing for Chris Mueller or some randos from Rainbow FC? Reeks of inexperience and the kind of throw the dice mentality that only comes when its your (or your fathers) cash.

I back everyone at the club to sort this out btw - and still fully believe RG is the best option for us just now


I would be willing to bet good money that LJ, who wasn't employed with us until months after Mueller signed and left was not pushing for Hibs to sign him😂

[Greenio]

I would be willing to bet good money that LJ, who wasn't employed with us until months after Mueller signed and left was not pushing for Hibs to sign him😂

Sorry, got confused there!

Point is, up until this new shift towards a DOF, imo, the singings have been done over the heads of the managers - apart from maybe McGeady given the history.

[Callum_62]

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[mcfly]

He's going no where and rightly so.

Can't keep on binning managers based on short term thinking.

I think the change in tactics to get the DOF has been a something both LJ and BK have been pushing for. While, what turned out to be a bad strategy of pick and hope signings based on the idea that you buy them young and sell them high, was coming from the Gordons, who have now agreed to back off and try a more solid path. (whilst telling them both they need to clear folk out before any cash gets made available)

You think LJ was pushing for Chris Mueller or some randos from Rainbow FC? Reeks of inexperience and the kind of throw the dice mentality that only comes when its your (or your fathers) cash.

I back everyone at the club to sort this out btw - and still fully believe RG is the best option for us just now

On what basis do you believe you think they will sort out the mess they created.

3 managers in just over a year. Numerous poor signings that we are spending valuable time moving on.

It’s now the 19th Jan and no new signings to go straight into first team.
Biggest game of the season awaits us on Sunday and I really hope I’m wrong but I fear for us as we have no quality in our team bar the goalie and Kevin Nisbet.

Clubs a mess