DOF post confirmed

[Allant1981]

See the club have now confirmed there will be a DOF coming in

[Stuart93]

Good to hear an update from the club and glad they’re going for someone with Scottish football experience.

Disappointed to see that Ian Gordon will be remaining in his position. Interesting BK says the DoF will be working “alongside” the recruitment team as opposed to in charge of or overseeing it. I’ve potentially misunderstood that part though.

A set up similar to GC & Mathie would be good but I’d still rather we brought in someone with experience in IG’s role

[green day]

Good to hear an update from the club and glad they’re going for someone with Scottish football experience.

Disappointed to see that Ian Gordon will be remaining in his position. Interesting BK says the DoF will be working “alongside” the recruitment team as opposed to in charge of or overseeing it. I’ve potentially misunderstood that part though.

A set up similar to GC & Mathie would be good but I’d still rather we brought in someone with experience in IG’s role

What Kensell actually said was -

"there will be a review of all the processes and practices and Ian and the recruitment team are no different"

[Trinity Hibee]

Hopefully John Park

[CallumLaidlaw]

Hopefully John Park

Reading it, it absolutely screams of him.


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[HFC93]

Still confused about what Ian Gordon's role will be [emoji53]

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[Stuart93]

What Kensell actually said was -

"there will be a review of all the processes and practices and Ian and the recruitment team are no different"

But what does that mean? There doesn’t have to be a review to see that the recruitment side of things are failing.

A return to our former structure would be very welcome

[JeMeSouviens]

Still confused about what Ian Gordon's role will be [emoji53]

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With a bit of luck, making the tea.

[hibby rae]

With a bit of luck, making the tea.

FFS Ian, you've given me f***ing camomile!!!

[CropleyWasGod]

With a bit of luck, making the tea.

Americans don't know to make a decent cuppa FFS

[Unseen work]

Got to say well done to Ron Gordon and Kensell for acknowledging this and putting previous thoughts and egos to the side.

They tried something different, it never worked and it is now changing. That’s what should happen.

Hopefully we really kick on now

[Iain G]

See the club have now confirmed there will be a DOF coming in

Has Ron got more than one son? 😈

[green day]

There doesn’t have to be a review to see that the recruitment side of things are failing.

Of course there does.

[B.H.F.C]

But what does that mean? There doesn’t have to be a review to see that the recruitment side of things are failing.

A return to our former structure would be very welcome

I think there does. Whoever the DoF is needs to figure out what aspects of the recruitment process are fit for purpose and what aren’t. The whole thing isn’t necessarily broken, it’s just being executed poorly.

[H18 SFR]

Delighted at this news. More delighted that LJ will be the manager though.

[Greencore]

AnnounceJohnPark.

[Stuart93]

Of course there does.

Reviewed in what way? It needs overhauled not reviewed. The review is us sitting 7th in the league after signing 15 in the summer surely.

Regardless, appointing a DoF is a step in the right direction and was what I was calling for after the summer. The club have/are going to deliver.

As long as it’s not the recruitment team finding the candidates 😉

John Park is hopefully the no.1 candidate

[neil7908]

Good stuff

[Allant1981]

Reviewed in what way? It needs overhauled not reviewed. The review is us sitting 7th in the league after signing 15 in the summer surely.

Regardless, appointing a DoF is a step in the right direction and was what I was calling for after the summer. The club have/are going to deliver.

As long as it’s not the recruitment team finding the candidates 😉

You do know you need to review something before the overhaul can start

[04Sauzee]

Great to hear that it will likely be someone with knowledge of Scottish football even if it does limit the candidates. Does sound like it could be Park can't think of anybody else of the top of my head? Even someone like Nevin or Collins don't fit what was described as the DOF role

[Greencore]

Great to hear that it will likely be someone with knowledge of Scottish football even if it does limit the candidates. Does sound like it could be Park can't think of anybody else of the top of my head? Even someone like Nevin or Collins don't fit what was described as the DOF role


Craig Levein for me if not John Park. Won countless trophys as player and manager and who could forget that day at dens.


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[CapitalGreen]

But what does that mean? There doesn’t have to be a review to see that the recruitment side of things are failing.

A return to our former structure would be very welcome

We are bringing in a DOF to make decisions and changes on the football side of the club. It would be undermining him if we started making those decisions for him before he was even in place.

[MKHIBEE]

Good to hear an update from the club and glad they’re going for someone with Scottish football experience.

Disappointed to see that Ian Gordon will be remaining in his position. Interesting BK says the DoF will be working “alongside” the recruitment team as opposed to in charge of or overseeing it. I’ve potentially misunderstood that part though.

A set up similar to GC & Mathie would be good but I’d still rather we brought in someone with experience in IG’s role

Copied from the official site

When appointed, the new Director of Football will be responsible for all areas of football support at the Hibernian Training Centre, including the Academy and development, analysis, football administration, medical, player care, recruitment, and strength and conditioning and will review all of football operations.

[Stuart93]

Copied from the official site

When appointed, the new Director of Football will be responsible for all areas of football support at the Hibernian Training Centre, including the Academy and development, analysis, football administration, medical, player care, recruitment, and strength and conditioning and will review all of football operations.

Well that clears that up then. That’s even better news.

Excited for John Park/the new guy to come in and get started.

[HoboHarry]

Americans don't know to make a decent cuppa FFS
Haw you - this one does. Wife does anaw :greengrin

[HoboHarry]

Craig Levein for me if not John Park. Won countless trophys as player and manager and who could forget that day at dens.


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Toilets might need to be cleaned more.

[Bridge hibs]

FFS Ian, you've given me f***ing camomile!!!Brutal, he has just brought two boxes of Darjeeling in for trial, **** off, we want experience, we need ****ing Tetleys 🤬

[The Harp Awakes]

Copied from the official site

When appointed, the new Director of Football will be responsible for all areas of football support at the Hibernian Training Centre, including the Academy and development, analysis, football administration, medical, player care, recruitment, and strength and conditioning and will review all of football operations.

A promotion for Steve Kean?

[H18 SFR]

A promotion for Steve Kean?

That was my thought.

[wookie70]

A promotion for Steve Kean? BK was very specific about Scottish football knowledge. I don't think running a youth set up was what he meant

[CapitalGreen]

Copied from the official site

When appointed, the new Director of Football will be responsible for all areas of football support at the Hibernian Training Centre, including the Academy and development, analysis, football administration, medical, player care, recruitment, and strength and conditioning and will review all of football operations.

While I’d like JP involved with player identification at the club, does he have any experience in overseeing all the other aspects of the role?

[Stuart93]

A promotion for Steve Kean?

After a statement like that it would be suicide for hibs just to promote Steve Kean into that role

[JohnM1875]

While I’d like JP involved with player identification at the club, does he have any experience in overseeing all the other aspects of the role?

Was thinking the same. Pretty sure his previous roles have all involved player development/identification. Could be well off with that mind you.

[greenlex]

If Kean was being promoted it would have been done by now.

[GreenGray]

Happy with the news, just a shame we got rid of this structure in the first place!


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[Pickle]

The appointment should have been in place months ago. What chance has a DOF got of analysing current squad, identifying potential signings to give us a chance of qualifying for Europe in just 3 weeks. Strange timing

[JohnM1875]

Happy with the news, just a shame we got rid of this structure in the first place!


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Aye, does really feel like we've wasted two seasons on a failed experiment.

[green day]

The appointment should have been in place months ago. What chance has a DOF got of analysing current squad, identifying potential signings to give us a chance of qualifying for Europe in just 3 weeks. Strange timing

The answer to that is that obviously they dont have a chance to make these changes in 3 weeks.

A structural change is needed, yes I would have preferred it to happen in the summer - but it didnt. It has to happen sometime.

We are planning for next season now while hoping to claw back something from this.

[Not In The Know]

The appointment should have been in place months ago. What chance has a DOF got of analysing current squad, identifying potential signings to give us a chance of qualifying for Europe in just 3 weeks. Strange timing


Deary me... Should we wait a year then?

[loanheadhibby]

The appointment should have been in place months ago. What chance has a DOF got of analysing current squad, identifying potential signings to give us a chance of qualifying for Europe in just 3 weeks. Strange timing

Sounds like they have pretty much written off this window. Concentrating on outs with maybe 1 or 2 in.

It gives DoF from appointment until end of August to evaluate squad and then make changes in summer.

There’s no guarantee DoF will be a success. Like every signing, comes with risk.

[The Harp Awakes]

After a statement like that it would be suicide for hibs just to promote Steve Kean into that role

If it's not him, I can see him leaving then. Can't see SK working under a DoF.

[NC1875]

Was thinking the same. Pretty sure his previous roles have all involved player development/identification. Could be well off with that mind you.

He was at a Polish team for a while I’m sure, Lech Poznan maybe. Not sure what his role was there

[H18 SFR]

The appointment should have been in place months ago. What chance has a DOF got of analysing current squad, identifying potential signings to give us a chance of qualifying for Europe in just 3 weeks. Strange timing

How much longer would you have waited to ensure that it isn’t strange timing?

[Stuart93]

If it's not him, I can see him leaving then. Can't see SK working under a DoF.

Really? He’s head of youth development no? I don’t see any reason why he wouldn’t work under a DoF in that role.

If he doesn’t fancy it fair enough.

[04Sauzee]

[QUOTE=NC1875;7226194]He was at a Polish team for a while I’m sure, Lech Poznan maybe. Not sure what his role was there[/QUOT


Previous roles here


https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/john-park/profil/trainer/4072

[One Day Soon]

Has Ron got more than one son? 😈

I mean TECHNICALLY Ian Gordon already has experience of Scottish football and at a big club...

[mcfly]

He admits the football results aren t good enough then also says we are concentrating on outs rather than ins.

This is worrying to me cause it’s as if he’s writing off this season and no new faces until new DOF is in place.

Results were terrible before the World Cup - why is this happening now?

Team needs quality

[dphibs]

I have a feeling it’s John Collins. He’s been saying a lot of good things about us recently,especially after the darby.

[cameronw-hfc]

He admits the football results aren t good enough then also says we are concentrating on outs rather than ins.

This is worrying to me cause it’s as if he’s writing off this season and no new faces until new DOF is in place.

Results were terrible before the World Cup - why is this happening now?

Team needs quality


He also said ins will be on a quality over quantity basis. We will make moves this window, just not 5/6 players. More 1-3 players.

[Real Emerald]

I have a feeling it’s John Collins.

I really hope not, he seems to rub everyone up the wrong way and really messed up the last time. He has no managerial success in football at all and has done nothing of note apart from the league cup win with a team built by his predecessor.

Not for me.

[One Day Soon]

He admits the football results aren t good enough then also says we are concentrating on outs rather than ins.

This is worrying to me cause it’s as if he’s writing off this season and no new faces until new DOF is in place.

Results were terrible before the World Cup - why is this happening now?

Team needs quality


Yup. Here's my cynical view.

Things have been and are 5hit. They don't want to let Johnson make too many signings, if any, because he may be out in a week or two depending on results. Horrendous form and supporter unrest has forced their hand on the restructure announcement now because the only alternative to that is actually signing some new payers and/or sacking the manager. Making the announcement now gives a nice distraction squirrel to what will likely be little to no signings and certainly no-one that matches up to Porteous if/when he goes.

In amongst all this it's quite probable that Ian Gordon stays, we focus on shifting players out this window and Johnson is left to do what he can with the players he's got. After all their thinking will be that next season is another year, maybe some of the duds will still come good in the meantime and sacking Johnson would cost more money.

This might be a very good development eventually or it might just be the same as it's been but dressed as something else. The key for me isn't so much a DoF (important though that is) it's what roll, if any, the son ends up playing behind the scenes.

Jesus, Hibs have made me cynical over the many years.

[Trinity Hibee]

I really hope not, he seems to rub everyone up the wrong way and really messed up the last time. He has no managerial success in football at all and has done nothing of note apart from the league cup win with a team built by his predecessor.

Not for me.

Bit harsh. JC must have excellent contacts across the continent and excellent experience as a player. Think he was maybe just before his time when he was at us before.

[Hibees1973]

Copied from the official site

When appointed, the new Director of Football will be responsible for all areas of football support at the Hibernian Training Centre, including the Academy and development, analysis, football administration, medical, player care, recruitment, and strength and conditioning and will review all of football operations.

Really hope it's not Steve Kean, will appear like they have just shuffled the pack.

Regards John Collins, know he has played at a high level but does he have the necessary authority and personality to really shake things up at East Mains.

Disappoints me that Ron's son has not been ejected at this point, however, if it is John Park this will go some way to soften this blow. Seems to me that Ron will always want his son involved in some way. As others have said he could make the tea or recommend some wines for the hospitality suites.

[Allant1981]

I really hope not, he seems to rub everyone up the wrong way and really messed up the last time. He has no managerial success in football at all and has done nothing of note apart from the league cup win with a team built by his predecessor.

Not for me.

A DOF doesn't need to have been a good manager though, completely different role

[BoomtownHibees]

Previous roles here


https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/john-park/profil/trainer/4072

I think there’s a mixture of Donald & John in there as well cos John Park was never Mixu’s assistant at Hibs

[Real Emerald]

Bit harsh. JC must have excellent contacts across the continent and excellent experience as a player. Think he was maybe just before his time when he was at us before.

I’m actually really sorry I replied as I can’t be bothered with another endless tiresome debate about John Collins, its been done to death on here. I’ve said my bit and will respectfully leave any debate on it. 😀👍

[Smartie]

FFS Ian, you've given me f***ing camomile!!!

“FFS Ian, next time can I not just have one strong cuppa instead of the 12 weak ones you made me?”

[Trinity Hibee]

I’m actually really sorry I replied as I can’t be bothered with another endless tiresome debate about John Collins, its been done to death on here. I’ve said my bit and will respectfully leave any debate on it. 😀👍

Fair enough

[Real Emerald]

Fair enough

👍👍😀

[1875Sean]

Get strachan in

[Steve Austin]

Get strachan in

John Collins would be a decent shout re DOF?..But we may see some one not even quoted etc..
Hopefully a magician who can pull rabbits out of hats re players ….
A good decision re DOF I’m sure we are all agreed etc,just need get right person in .
:aok:

[scoopyboy]

Get strachan in

Any particular reason why?

I don't want Strachan or Collins as it's all about them and this really has to be about Hibs.

If Steve Kean was getting the job surely it could have been done at the time they decided this was the way ahead.

From the information given out this evening I think John Park fits the bill more than anyone else I can think of.

[Up-the-slope]

I have a feeling it’s John Collins. He’s been saying a lot of good things about us recently,especially after the darby.


Return of the 6 pack as DoF is responsible for conditioning....:greengrin


(but dont know he has any recruitment experience so not likely)

[Mikey_1875]

Park does tick almost every box on that list but I still think we will cast our net wider than it’s perhaps been interpreted from Ben’s interview.

There will be a lot of good options that have maybe worked in Scotland in some capacity but gained their “big club” experience in England. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a relatively low profile name get the role but still with the right qualifications for it.

[Svengali]

It’s a positive move from the club. John Park is a name I’ve seen rumoured and i could definitely get behind that.

Did Park not recommend players to Mowbray, including Beuzelin, Killen & Benji?. Compare that to our recent ‘recommendations’



Ben K still has a face I can’t trust

[AlbertK86]

He admits the football results aren t good enough then also says we are concentrating on outs rather than ins.

This is worrying to me cause it’s as if he’s writing off this season and no new faces until new DOF is in place.

Results were terrible before the World Cup - why is this happening now?

Team needs quality

Now got 3 key players back and still getting up to speed in Nisbet, McGeady and Magennis. Also JDH and Miller to come back shortly. I suspect they hope that 5 help with an upturn in fortunes.

Still think we will try and get decent quality LCH, LB and a CM in to supplement that 5.


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[1875Sean]

[QUOTE=scoopyboy;7226266]Any particular reason why?

I don't want Strachan or Collins as it's all about them and this really has to be about Hibs.

If Steve Kean was getting the job surely it could have been done at the time they decided this was the way ahead.

From the information given out this evening I think John Park fits the bill more than anyone else I can think of.[/QUOTE

Why not strachan, he has been doing his non managerial roles with Dundee and Celtic for a while now, knows Scottish football inside out, will have good contacts in the game.

Wouldn’t want Collins anywhere near the role, both completely different

[Jones28]

[QUOTE=scoopyboy;7226266]Any particular reason why?

I don't want Strachan or Collins as it's all about them and this really has to be about Hibs.

If Steve Kean was getting the job surely it could have been done at the time they decided this was the way ahead.

From the information given out this evening I think John Park fits the bill more than anyone else I can think of.[/QUOTE

Why not strachan, he has been doing his non managerial roles with Dundee and Celtic for a while now, knows Scottish football inside out, will have good contacts in the game.

Wouldn’t want Collins anywhere near the role, both completely different

With Strachan, did he not have a job at Dundee and then took another job on at Celtic?

[1875Sean]

[QUOTE=1875Sean;7226344]

With Strachan, did he not have a job at Dundee and then took another job on at Celtic?

Think he has a role with both clubs, last I seen he was a technical direct at Dundee and did consultancy work with Celtic, not sure if that’s still correct or not

[LunasBoots]

The worrying part is he didn't sound that reassuring we'd be doing much business in this window. Whoever it is going to be needs to demand that they are in full control of the position without interference otherwise it won't work.

[Hibees1973]

The worrying part is he didn't sound that reassuring we'd be doing much business in this window. Whoever it is going to be needs to demand that they are in full control of the position without interference otherwise it won't work.

I got the impression it could be a while until a DOF is appointed.

[Leith Green]

I got the impression is could be a while until a DOF is appointed.


Might not be a bad thing.. Hopefully whoever it is is already done and dusted , give them the space and time to set us up for the summer. Im all for keeping the transfers into the club down to a sensible minimum and use this window and early summer to really clear out the overly inflated and below standard playing squad down to remainder of a decent core to the squad. This will allow us to add player by player a better standard, and bring in the calibre of player we need and who is ready to improve the starting 11 significantly

[bingo70]

Nick Hammond another possibility?

Been at big clubs, experience of Scottish football and has done all the roles you’d expect of a director of football.

[JeMeSouviens]

Think he has a role with both clubs, last I seen he was a technical direct at Dundee and did consultancy work with Celtic, not sure if that’s still correct or not

His son is a coach at Celtc I think, so he'll be on board with the nepotism thing. :wink:

[Hibees1973]

Might not be a bad thing.. Hopefully whoever it is is already done and dusted , give them the space and time to set us up for the summer. Im all for keeping the transfers into the club down to a sensible minimum and use this window and early summer to really clear out the overly inflated and below standard playing squad down to remainder of a decent core to the squad. This will allow us to add player by player a better standard, and bring in the calibre of player we need and who is ready to improve the starting 11 significantly

Kensall eluded to this in his interview, but it's fairly clear they will try to move on/pay off the players recruited under Ron's sons strange recruitment regime. We have seen loads of players that have played in the 1st team that have not been good enough (Bojang, Henderson, McKirdy, Tavares, Tait, MacKay) come first to my mind for example, there are loads more. Also several others who will not even get in the 1st team we need rid of.

The points we already have and with Nisbet back, we should remain mid table at least. I'm comfortable that we don't sign any more players. Why would we want Ron's son to recruit more players before a DOF comes in.

The mess created already has to be tidied up before more players come in.

[Since452]

Well done Hibs. Sensible and positive move.

[MikeyS]

I have a feeling it’s John Collins. He’s been saying a lot of good things about us recently,especially after the darby.

Really hope it isn't him. Far too self obsessed. He wasn't very complimentary about a few of the players on the radio comms at the Derby either. Particularly Rocky, not that that they didn't deserve it however.

[angus hibby]

[QUOTE=scoopyboy;7226266]Any particular reason why?

I don't want Strachan or Collins as it's all about them and this really has to be about Hibs.

If Steve Kean was getting the job surely it could have been done at the time they decided this was the way ahead.

From the information given out this evening I think John Park fits the bill more than anyone else I can think of.[/QUOTE

Why not strachan, he has been doing his non managerial roles with Dundee and Celtic for a while now, knows Scottish football inside out, will have good contacts in the game.

Wouldn’t want Collins anywhere near the role, both completely different

Wasn't so long ago Strachan appointed Mark McGhee as Dundee manager! That’s enough for me to say I don’t want him anywhere near this job.

[NAE NOOKIE]

I’m actually really sorry I replied as I can’t be bothered with another endless tiresome debate about John Collins, its been done to death on here. I’ve said my bit and will respectfully leave any debate on it. 😀👍

Just so you know mate, if you change your mind you will have my 100% unequivocal support :aok:

[TheGreenMan]

Announce Iain Gordon as DoF, just for a laugh 😂

[GreenCastle]

Announce Iain Gordon as DoF, just for a laugh 😂

Sounds like Levein situation all over again.

Hammond worked with Lennon by the way.

[Vault Boy]

Sometimes you’ve got to take several steps back to take a step forward.

Truthfully, I’m happy they’ve finally seen the light. It’s just frustrating that we could avoided a lot of trouble these last couple of seasons had we not tried to dismiss the previous structure.

Hope to hell they get this appointment right.

[CapitalGreen]

Sounds like Levein situation all over again.

Hammond worked with Lennon by the way.

That ended well

[Forza Fred]

Got to say well done to Ron Gordon and Kensell for acknowledging this and putting previous thoughts and egos to the side.

They tried something different, it never worked and it is now changing. That’s what should happen.

Hopefully we really kick on now

That was close to my thoughts.

I also think we will see Ron standing back from the media and leaving it to club staff.