Youth development

[HIBS NUTS]

Im a keen supporter of the current hibs teams, and have watched the teams develop over the last few years at HTC, and believe we have a great group of young talent.
However this experiment of bringing in other young players from England and Abroad, has been somewhat of a disaster, and somewhat naive, considering the resources we have for scouting , and budget compared to many other european teams.
The current under 18 and 19 teams, now have their road blocked for getting any first team experience, or in some cases future contracts.
We needed and need experienced players, to compete, for first team places, and this should be complemented by our own youth system.
Players in my opinion who are very close to competing for future places in the squad are
Murray Johnstone
Murray Aitken
Oscar Mcintyre
Jacob mcintyre
Ethan laidlaw
Rudi Molotnikov.
But many more are very talented and could progress.

[Trinity Hibee]

Im a keen supporter of the current hibs teams, and have watched the teams develop over the last few years at HTC, and believe we have a great group of young talent.
However this experiment of bringing in other young players from England and Abroad, has been somewhat of a disaster, and somewhat naive, considering the resources we have for scouting , and budget compared to many other european teams.
The current under 18 and 19 teams, now have their road blocked for getting any first team experience, or in some cases future contracts.
We needed and need experienced players, to compete, for first team places, and this should be complemented by our own youth system.
Players in my opinion who are very close to competing for future places in the squad are
Murray Johnstone
Murray Aitken
Oscar Mcintyre
Jacob mcintyre
Ethan laidlaw
Rudi Molotnikov.
But many more are very talented and could progress.

I haven’t seen much of the youth teams but recognise Laidlaw and the macintyres as names that frequently get brought up (Josh o’Connor another).

Why do you think they haven’t really managed to even make it into match day squads? Maybe the manager doesn’t want to throw them in when we are struggling? Just thought we’d have seen more of them. For teams like Hibs it’s the way forward.

[SMAXXA]

Doesn’t matter where players are brought in from if your good enough you will play. Management not giving players the chance to show this is more the point rather than try link it to bringing people in from England and abroad I don’t see the relevance.

[offshorehibby]

Im a keen supporter of the current hibs teams, and have watched the teams develop over the last few years at HTC, and believe we have a great group of young talent.
However this experiment of bringing in other young players from England and Abroad, has been somewhat of a disaster, and somewhat naive, considering the resources we have for scouting , and budget compared to many other european teams.
The current under 18 and 19 teams, now have their road blocked for getting any first team experience, or in some cases future contracts.
We needed and need experienced players, to compete, for first team places, and this should be complemented by our own youth system.
Players in my opinion who are very close to competing for future places in the squad are
Murray Johnstone
Murray Aitken
Oscar Mcintyre
Jacob mcintyre
Ethan laidlaw
Rudi Molotnikov.
But many more are very talented and could progress.

I think we only have an U19 this year as that's the team that won the U18 league and are now playing in Europe as an U19 team. Hibs probably would not have kept a chunk of the league winning side going forward. If we weren't playing an U19 in Europe the cream of that U18 would have moved up to what is supposed to be the development squad/B team supplemented with the development players they have brought in.

The development squad/B team hasn't worked out this year with the English games falling through but i believe the the development squad/B team have been playing the reserve league and cup games.

[HIBS NUTS]

Doesn’t matter where players are brought in from if your good enough you will play. Management not giving players the chance to show this is more the point rather than try link it to bringing people in from England and abroad I don’t see the relevance.
The point about England and abroad, is that we invest money in our own system, and that’s were we should be looking first.
The chances of our youth recruitment team having more knowledge of great young players in Norway, or Portugal then Rosenberg of Benfica is very slim.

[Hibernian Verse]

The point about England and abroad, is that we invest money in our own system, and that’s were we should be looking first.
The chances of our youth recruitment team having more knowledge of great young players in Norway, or Portugal then Rosenberg of Benfica is very slim.

We aren't competing with or shopping in the same market as Rosenborg or Benfica though.

By that I mean if a player is good enough for either of them, there isn't a hope in hell they are signing for Hibs.

[SMAXXA]

The point about England and abroad, is that we invest money in our own system, and that’s were we should be looking first.
The chances of our youth recruitment team having more knowledge of great young players in Norway, or Portugal then Rosenberg of Benfica is very slim.

But how is that somewhat of a disaster (your words)? Surly getting the best young players we can it’s irrelevant wether we find them though portobello colts or from abroad?

[HIBS NUTS]

We aren't competing with or shopping in the same market as Rosenborg or Benfica though.

I used those 2 teams as a comparison , we are competing with every team in these countries and europe, I would suspect that these teams would be more knowledgeable than our current recruitment team on youth players in europe.
But this is off point, if we have a good current youth squad, we should be looking to progress these players first, we have already invested lots of money bringing them through the system.

[HIBS NUTS]

But how is that somewhat of a disaster (your words)? Surly getting the best young players we can it’s irrelevant wether we find them though portobello colts or from abroad?

In my opinion we have spent lots of money on young players, that are no better than our current crop of youth players, and blocked the path of our youth players coming through.
Others might think differently, but it’s certainly not been very successful, so far.

[HIBS NUTS]

But how is that somewhat of a disaster (your words)? Surly getting the best young players we can it’s irrelevant wether we find them though portobello colts or from abroad?
We have been very successful at getting the best young players in scotland recently, but they don’t have a path into the first team at the moment.

[Fanforlife]

Development squad has a game tomorrow vQueens Park will be grandson,s first involvement for four month s due to injury

[SMAXXA]

In my opinion we have spent lots of money on young players, that are no better than our current crop of youth players, and blocked the path of our youth players coming through.
Others might think differently, but it’s certainly not been very successful, so far.

How much have we spent?

[HIBS NUTS]

Development squad has a game tomorrow vQueens Park will be grandson,s first involvement for four month s due to injury

Good luck with tomorrow, we’re is it and what time.
ii will go along if possible.👍🏻

[Billy Whizz]

How much have we spent?

The wages of all the players we’ve brought in, ear marked for the development team, will be over 6 figures

[1875Sean]

Isn’t laidlaw out of contract in the summer? Seen he has been linked with a move away

[HIBS NUTS]

How much have we spent?

Off the top of my head £250,000for mcallister
Elias Melkerson was reported to be £300,000
Rimar Hauge reported to be £100,000
These were reported at the time.
You obviously disagree with my post, which is fine, but it’s getting tiresome.
i am bowing out, so have a good night.

[Garymcl]

Yeah does anybody know where and what time the queens park game is

[scoopyboy]

Yeah does anybody know where and what time the queens park game is

1pm at East Mains I think

[Brightside]

Off the top of my head £250,000for mcallister
Elias Melkerson was reported to be £300,000
Rimar Hauge reported to be £100,000
These were reported at the time.
You obviously disagree with my post, which is fine, but it’s getting tiresome.
i am bowing out, so have a good night.

I wish we’d stop mixing up youth development and the development team. The u18s are not the development team even if some of them may get some game time with them (if/when they ever play).

[The Modfather]

Whether it’s through the b team fixtures falling through, a squad full of players we want to move on or a manager unwilling to blood the U19s as he can only think short term it seems like we’ve wasted a years development.

What has the likes of Fish, Schofield, Bojang etc provided that we couldn’t have got from promoting from within?

When exactly are we going to start to see the U19s given their chance? If we start to lose the out of contract youngsters (Laidlaw?) or never see much of this U19 team in the first team it’s got to be asked what ‘a the point of having a youth academy when we’re so reluctant to use it.

[Pretty Boy]

I was at the Spartans v Rangers B game last week.

On a technical level Rangers were very, very good. It was a young side they had out with the likes of Alex Lowry not in the squad. They wanted to play football the right way, get it down, knock it about and keep the ball. What they lacked was any real threat up top and the competitive edge that Spartans had. Ultimately it was a team in that league to develop against a team with aspirations of promotion who went top with a win.

I was quite heartened to see Rangers playing the way they did though. I'm the same when I see Hibs at 18s. It's very technically minded and I now genuinely believe we are learning lessons in Scotland and are now developing young footballers properly (at a certain level, the SFA coaching courses are good but the turn up and get a certificate and lack of continuous assesment leads to some totally inappropriate people running juvenile teams).

What seems to be lacking is that final bridge between development and 1st team. There has to come a point where there is a competitive element to games because that's as much a part of 1st team football as anything else. Hibs have that at 18s but it disappears in that crucial stage for players aged 18, 19 and 20. We just don't play enough games at that level albeit we have a lot out on loan, I'm not sure that is conductive to developing a club identity though. Hearts, Rangers and Celtic are going down the Lowland route which gets good competitive football for them but it's imperfect.

I'm not sure what the answer is as there is a financial cost to a reserve league and I'm not keen on Colts teams jumping ahead of good clubs who have their own league aspirations.

[1875Sean]

Off the top of my head £250,000for mcallister
Elias Melkerson was reported to be £300,000
Rimar Hauge reported to be £100,000
These were reported at the time.
You obviously disagree with my post, which is fine, but it’s getting tiresome.
i am bowing out, so have a good night.

First I’ve been a report fee for Hauge, didn’t expect it to be that much, where was that from?

[HIBS NUTS]

I wish we’d stop mixing up youth development and the development team. The u18s are not the development team even if some of them may get some game time with them (if/when they ever play).

Effectively there isn’t a under 19 league, or reserve league, so the development team consists of mainly the current CL under 19 team plus a few others.
But i take your point it is very frustrating.

[Bayern Bru]

Effectively there isn’t a under 19 league, or reserve league, so the development team consists of mainly the current CL under 19 team plus a few others.
But i take your point it is very frustrating.

There’s a reserve league and reserve cup.


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[CL0762]

Isn’t laidlaw out of contract in the summer? Seen he has been linked with a move away

I believe both him & Josh O’Connor are out of contract this summer.

[Pretty Boy]

There’s a reserve league and reserve cup.


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A reserve league that actually plays to a proper fixture schedule would be a good idea.

[Brightside]

Effectively there isn’t a under 19 league, or reserve league, so the development team consists of mainly the current CL under 19 team plus a few others.
But i take your point it is very frustrating.

So are you saying the team that played Nitten 20s the other night was our dev team? If so you’d have to question the benefit of them playing against a youth team.

[The dalmeny]

Im a keen supporter of the current hibs teams, and have watched the teams develop over the last few years at HTC, and believe we have a great group of young talent.
However this experiment of bringing in other young players from England and Abroad, has been somewhat of a disaster, and somewhat naive, considering the resources we have for scouting , and budget compared to many other european teams.
The current under 18 and 19 teams, now have their road blocked for getting any first team experience, or in some cases future contracts.
We needed and need experienced players, to compete, for first team places, and this should be complemented by our own youth system.
Players in my opinion who are very close to competing for future places in the squad are
Murray Johnstone
Murray Aitken
Oscar Mcintyre
Jacob mcintyre
Ethan laidlaw
Rudi Molotnikov.
But many more are very talented and could progress.

Malek Zaid too, you’ll not find a player who works any harder

[Edinburgh Green]

First I’ve been a report fee for Hauge, didn’t expect it to be that much, where was that from?

A fee of any sort has never been reported anywhere so no idea where that figure was plucked from. Also there is zero chance we spent 250k on McAlister

[wookie70]

Malek Zaid too, you’ll not find a player who works any harder Kanayo Megwa too. He has been training with teh first team and with Cadden with a possible injury maybe he will get a shot. LJ will see far more of the players than us but I think it may help him and his relationship with the fans if some youth players started getting a game. That is especially so if you can slot them into their position rather than swapping two or three players around and then still bringing on older player that look incapable of ever making it at this level. The very short spells some of teh youngsters have been in during cup of friendly matches they have certainly not looked miles away.

[HIBS NUTS]

A fee of any sort has never been reported anywhere so no idea where that figure was plucked from. Also there is zero chance we spent 250k on McAlister

Your right it’s potentially more
ive tried to copy the local bristol newspaper Bristol News the fee was £250,000 for mcallister rising to £500,000 if certain critica is met.
i’ve tried to copy the link but it won’t come through.
It sounds absolutely ridiculous, but it’s easy to look up .

[Fanforlife]

So are you saying the team that played Nitten 20s the other night was our dev team? If so you’d have to question the benefit of them playing against a youth team.Far as im aware it was the under 18 s vNittens under 20,s.

[CapitalGreen]

Your right it’s potentially more
ive tried to copy the local bristol newspaper Bristol News the fee was £250,000 for mcallister rising to £500,000 if certain critica is met.
i’ve tried to copy the link but it won’t come through.
It sounds absolutely ridiculous, but it’s easy to look up .

That story was widely rubbished at the time. Fee is closer to £100k.

There was no transfer fee for Hauge.

[HIBS NUTS]

That story was widely rubbished at the time. Fee is closer to £100k.

There was no transfer fee for Hauge.

Thanks for clarifying this, i know these things are shrouded in secrecy, but it was reported,
Fool me for believing it.👍🏻
big fee for a 16 year old anyway.

[Bayern Bru]

A reserve league that actually plays to a proper fixture schedule would be a good idea.

True enough. Seems far too easy for teams to call off at short notice


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[hibee-boys]

We’ve only had 1 or 2 players in over a decade who’ve come up through the system at Hibs to the play consistently for the first XI. That’s a lot of time/energy/cash invested for, what will ultimately be, very little financial reward. We’ve had numerous prospects over the years that were 1 or 2 years from making the jump into the first team only to fade into obscurity like so many before. I’m at a loss who exactly is, or has been, in charge of the youth set up but something is just not right. I really couldn’t give 2 hoots about winning reserve or under 18 leagues if none of that filters through to the first team.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Excuse my ignorance but couldn't Melkersen be playing in dev squad games?

Feel like he's a wee bit away from first team just now but could be ready in thr next 6-12 months

[The dalmeny]

I really couldn’t give 2 hoots about winning reserve or under 18 leagues if none of that filters through to the first team.

If you have a successful youth set up it should attract a better standard of player going forward but I suspect you aren’t really bothered about the set up.

[1875Sean]

Excuse my ignorance but couldn't Melkersen be playing in dev squad games?

Feel like he's a wee bit away from first team just now but could be ready in thr next 6-12 months

Think the issue is there isn’t hardly any dev games

[cameronw-hfc]

Your right it’s potentially more
ive tried to copy the local bristol newspaper Bristol News the fee was £250,000 for mcallister rising to £500,000 if certain critica is met.
i’ve tried to copy the link but it won’t come through.
It sounds absolutely ridiculous, but it’s easy to look up .


Patrick McPartlin rubbished that. He gets his info straight from Hibs so would trust him over a local Bristol paper.

[hibee-boys]

If you have a successful youth set up it should attract a better standard of player going forward but I suspect you aren’t really bothered about the set up.

I’m not bothered about a set up that produced a very meagre return. If we’d been sitting bottom of the reserve or under 18 leagues would we have been any worse off than what we are just now in terms of producing talent that can impact the first XI? I honestly hope some of the under 18 team from last year break through, my concern is that we’ve been in this position before and for whatever reason successful reserve/youth teams have just not challenged our first team. Hope this current batch prove me wrong.

[Fanforlife]

Good luck with tomorrow, we’re is it and what time.
ii will go along if possible.👍🏻East Mains. 1pm.

[Eyrie]

I'm not sure what the answer is as there is a financial cost to a reserve league and I'm not keen on Colts teams jumping ahead of good clubs who have their own league aspirations.

Would a reserve league team really cost more than the current vanity project development squad? I'd say the opposite - we'd need only a few of the development players with the rest of the reserve squad being either first team squad needing playing time or youths getting the chance to test themselves against more experienced players.

[Chorley Hibee]

Patrick McPartlin rubbished that. He gets his info straight from Hibs so would trust him over a local Bristol paper.

Do you not think that someone on the local Bristol paper might have similar access to Bristol City?

I guess it's one of these that remain in the uncertain category.

[Hibee Daft]

I believe both him & Josh O’Connor are out of contract this summer.

Where are you getting this information? Didnt Laidlaw just sign a contract feb 21?

[HIBS NUTS]

Where are you getting this information? Didnt Laidlaw just sign a contract feb 21?
Normally i would have expected players from last years under 18,s to be either offered a new contract, providing a new content was needed , or released.
However because we have this CL game in february against Dortmund, i wonder if some sort of compromise has been reached, as hibs require a full squad for this game, and then for the tournament in France if successful.

[HIBS NUTS]

Where are you getting this information? Didnt Laidlaw just sign a contract feb 21?

Im surprised Ethan hasn’t featured on the bench yet, fast tricky winger.

[hibsforeurope]

A fee of any sort has never been reported anywhere so no idea where that figure was plucked from. Also there is zero chance we spent 250k on McAlister

These fees were reported on another thread a while back when it was suggested we hadn't spent a lot of money on transfers. These fees formed part of the argument we had spent significant money on players.

[flash]

East Mains. 1pm.

Anyone there?

[1875Sean]

Im surprised Ethan hasn’t featured on the bench yet, fast tricky winger.

Isn’t he more of a centre forward?

[Brooster]

2-0 down.

[Greenworld]

Where are you getting this information? Didnt Laidlaw just sign a contract feb 21?Both out of contract 31st May 2023

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[HIBS NUTS]

Isn’t he more of a centre forward?

He’s plays both, but if josh o’connor plays, usually starts on the wing, like the he game against Nantes .

[HIBS NUTS]

2-0 down.

Is it disappointing, or are we playing a young team.
thanks for the update my car is in the garage.👍🏻

[Brooster]

Is it disappointing, or are we playing a young team.
thanks for the update my car is in the garage.👍🏻

Looked rusty in the first half but much better in the 2nd. Lost 2-1 but a good run out for some of the lads who haven't played for a while.

[HIBS NUTS]

Looked rusty in the first half but much better in the 2nd. Lost 2-1 but a good run out for some of the lads who haven't played for a while.

cheers

[Brightside]

So our Dev Team? Got beat by Queens Park dev team ? Or were they playing the first team?

[CapitalGreen]

Starting XI: Johnson, McCulloch, Megwa, Blaney, O MacIntyre, Aiken, Hamilton, J MacIntyre, Zaid, Laidlaw, O’Connor

[Danderhall Hibs]

Starting XI: Johnson, McCulloch, Megwa, Blaney, O MacIntyre, Aiken, Hamilton, J MacIntyre, Zaid, Laidlaw, O’Connor

That’s the under 19s isn’t it? Who else would be added for it to be condensed the development team?

[G15 Hibs]

So our Dev Team? Got beat by Queens Park dev team ? Or were they playing the first team?

It wouldn't be Queen's Park 1st team. They're playing Raith Rovers tonight.

[Brightside]

Starting XI: Johnson, McCulloch, Megwa, Blaney, O MacIntyre, Aiken, Hamilton, J MacIntyre, Zaid, Laidlaw, O’Connor

So the 19s.

[Brightside]

That’s the under 19s isn’t it? Who else would be added for it to be condensed the development team?

Yeh this is what keeps bugging me. Is that now the dev team and if it is where are all the other players?

[HIBS NUTS]

Yeh this is what keeps bugging me. Is that now the dev team and if it is where are all the other players?

That is more or less the team that will play dortmund, with a few exceptions, these guys have had virtually no game time, and i believe some of them are getting frustrated, young players want to play every week.

[sahpaton]

Yeh this is what keeps bugging me. Is that now the dev team and if it is where are all the other players?

Pretty the club said that this was a chance for the 19s to prepare for the Dortmund game. Was expecting this to be their squad rather the Dev team

[Brightside]

Pretty the club said that this was a chance for the 19s to prepare for the Dortmund game. Was expecting this to be their squad rather the Dev team

I was sure it said Dev Squad on the socials. Communication around the 19s and “dev” continues to be very poor.

[CapitalGreen]

I was sure it said Dev Squad on the socials. Communication around the 19s and “dev” continues to be very poor.

The only games a team is referred to as U19s is when playing in the UEFA tournament, everything else they are referred to as the Dev team.

[Brightside]

The only games a team is referred to as U19s is when playing in the UEFA tournament, everything else they are referred to as the Dev team.

I’m boring myself now. 😂 But are they not 2 different teams. Where are all the Dev players we signed ?

[CapitalGreen]

I’m boring myself now. 😂 But are they not 2 different teams. Where are all the Dev players we signed ?

Balde is gone
Bradley is gone
McLelland is at Cove
EJ and Allan D have just returned from Edinburgh City
Hauge has just returned from his break after the end of the Irish season
Tait is at Arbroath
MacKay is at ICT

[offshorehibby]

I’m boring myself now. 😂 But are they not 2 different teams. Where are all the Dev players we signed ?

Probably the same team. If we were not playing the Champions League games there would be no U19 team at all as there are no U19 leagues.

In reality a chunk of the U18 that won the league would probably have been let go by now with the cream of that team moving up to what they are calling the development team.

[HIBS NUTS]

Balde is gone
Bradley is gone
McLelland is at Cove
EJ and Allan D have just returned from Edinburgh City
Hauge has just returned from his break after the end of the Irish season
Tait is at Arbroath
MacKay is at ICT
I might be wrong but i think tait has a long term injury now.

[CapitalGreen]

It wouldn't be Queen's Park 1st team. They're playing Raith Rovers tonight.

Queen’s Park are playing their reserve players tonight.

[HIBS NUTS]

Apparently the development squad/ effectively current under 19 s , have 3 games lined up before dortmund on february the 7th.
If anyone knows the dates and times of these games it would be useful .

[Brooster]

So our Dev Team? Got beat by Queens Park dev team ? Or were they playing the first team?

It was Hibs 19s v QP reserves.

[Billy Whizz]

Apparently the development squad/ effectively current under 19 s , have 3 games lined up before dortmund on february the 7th.
If anyone knows the dates and times of these games it would be useful .

I’m presuming they’ll be using these games as preparation

Reserve league
https://spfl.co.uk/league/rl1/fixtures

Reserve Cup
https://spfl.co.uk/league/rcup/fixtures

[HIBS NUTS]

I’m presuming they’ll be using these games as preparation

Reserve league
https://spfl.co.uk/league/rl1/fixtures

Reserve Cup
https://spfl.co.uk/league/rcup/fixtures

Brilliant thanks

[Is It On....]

On a slightly different note, Hibs have just lost a starlet, Conor Smith, of the U11 team that has left to go to Celtic and Hearts are closing to losing one of their top prospects, James Wilson, with both of the ugly sisters interested. If you invariably lose your top prospects in the lower age groups, is it any surprise that the Dalkeith Baresi is the exception rather than the rule and is it worth all the investment and hard work for the occasional star player that eventually signs professional terms at 16?

[PaulSmith]

On a slightly different note, Hibs have just lost a starlet, Conor Smith, of the U11 team that has left to go to Celtic and Hearts are closing to losing one of their top prospects, James Wilson, with both of the ugly sisters interested. If you invariably lose your top prospects in the lower age groups, is it any surprise that the Dalkeith Baresi is the exception rather than the rule and is it worth all the investment and hard work for the occasional star player that eventually signs professional terms at 16?

A 10 year old deciding to play for another team is exactly that, disappointing but what can you expect Hibs to do?

The flip side is a current 15 year old who was at Hearts, Man Utd were desperate for him to sign but he choose Celtic and was a standout there for a few years but personal circumstances dictated he is now at Hibs and has a great chance.

[CapitalGreen]

On a slightly different note, Hibs have just lost a starlet, Conor Smith, of the U11 team that has left to go to Celtic and Hearts are closing to losing one of their top prospects, James Wilson, with both of the ugly sisters interested. If you invariably lose your top prospects in the lower age groups, is it any surprise that the Dalkeith Baresi is the exception rather than the rule and is it worth all the investment and hard work for the occasional star player that eventually signs professional terms at 16?

They will likely join a long list of highly rated academy players who have left Hibs to go along the M8 to never be heard from again.

[The dalmeny]

Do Celtic take training in edinburgh ?

[theonlywayisup]

They will likely join a long list of highly rated academy players who have left Hibs to go along the M8 to never be heard from again.

I'd be interest to know what % of boys who play u11 at Hibs actually end up playing for the Hibs first team. Then, if not Hibs, play first team football at a top level (I mean either the same or higher than Hibs). Must be a very low %.

[cabbageandribs1875]

U18's away to Motherwell U18's tomorrow night 7pm

CAS Elite u18's league

[scoopyboy]

Hibs v Borussia Dortmund has been confirmed for Tuesday 7th February with a 7pm kick off at Easter Road.

BT Sports are showing the game live.

[scoopyboy]

A 10 year old deciding to play for another team is exactly that, disappointing but what can you expect Hibs to do?

The flip side is a current 15 year old who was at Hearts, Man Utd were desperate for him to sign but he choose Celtic and was a standout there for a few years but personal circumstances dictated he is now at Hibs and has a great chance.

I take it you are reluctant to name the player.

[green day]

The flip side is a current 15 year old who was at Hearts, Man Utd were desperate for him to sign but he choose Celtic and was a standout there for a few years but personal circumstances dictated he is now at Hibs and has a great chance.

I know of a player at Hibs with a remarkably similar story (dont think its the same one).

Celtic seem to hoover up loads of young players from across the country but their hit rate of converting these kids into first team players is pretty poor.

Many players end up scunnered by having to travel and getting little in return - I wouldnt advise any young kid to go to Celtic.

[HIBS NUTS]

Hibs v Borussia Dortmund has been confirmed for Tuesday 7th February with a 7pm kick off at Easter Road.

BT Sports are showing the game live.

fantastic
I’m beginning to wonder, how much money is involved in qualifying for the main tournament in france.
Loads of money involved in womens CL qualifying.
It could be quite substantial.👍🏻

[Brightside]

On a slightly different note, Hibs have just lost a starlet, Conor Smith, of the U11 team that has left to go to Celtic and Hearts are closing to losing one of their top prospects, James Wilson, with both of the ugly sisters interested. If you invariably lose your top prospects in the lower age groups, is it any surprise that the Dalkeith Baresi is the exception rather than the rule and is it worth all the investment and hard work for the occasional star player that eventually signs professional terms at 16?

Even signing for Pro teams at 11 is madness. Parents are clueless with this stuff.

[HIBS NUTS]

Even signing for Pro teams at 11 is madness. Parents are clueless with this stuff.

Agree 100 percent
let them enjoy football locally.

[scoopyboy]

fantastic
I’m beginning to wonder, how much money is involved in qualifying for the main tournament in france.
Loads of money involved in womens CL qualifying.
It could be quite substantial.👍🏻

I was wondering about the financial side of the competition as well.

Have Hibs already earned money, do we get the BT sports fee for the match or does it go into a pot that is shared out?

I suspect there is money involved as Hibs have refused clubs loan deals for some of the under 19s as it would keep them out of the Dortmund game and hopefully subsequent games,

[offshorehibby]

I was wondering about the financial side of the competition as well.

Have Hibs already earned money, do we get the BT sports fee for the match or does it go into a pot that is shared out?

I suspect there is money involved as Hibs have refused clubs loan deals for some of the under 19s as it would keep them out of the Dortmund game and hopefully subsequent games,

Any idea if we can loan youth players out after the Dortmund game. While it's great been in the tournament, i think it has gone against some of the development team who might have been loaned out by now.

[Billy Whizz]

I was wondering about the financial side of the competition as well.

Have Hibs already earned money, do we get the BT sports fee for the match or does it go into a pot that is shared out?

I suspect there is money involved as Hibs have refused clubs loan deals for some of the under 19s as it would keep them out of the Dortmund game and hopefully subsequent games,

Scoopyboy, I’m sure someone posted on the other thread of youth team info/results, that there wasn’t a lot of money involved in this competition

[The dalmeny]

Even signing for Pro teams at 11 is madness. Parents are clueless with this stuff.

I suspect a move to Celtic is 100% parent driven when you are 10

[marinello59]

Even signing for Pro teams at 11 is madness. Parents are clueless with this stuff.

I couldn’t agree more. It’s far too young, we end up with kids thinking their dreams are over at 13 when they get dropped.

[HIBS NUTS]

Scoopyboy, I’m sure someone posted on the other thread of youth team info/results, that there wasn’t a lot of money involved in this competition
There are a few under 19 players, that a loan out would be useful, i would assume the squad are been kept together at the moment, so as to be in the best possible shape for Dortmund.
The big problem being i’m pretty sure that Dortmund are a big step up.
They won the German league by 13 points, i think.

[Pretty Boy]

I couldn’t agree more. It’s far too young, we end up with kids thinking their dreams are over at 13 when they get dropped.

It's horrendous.

I was a bit later making the switch to what was then called 'youth initiative'. All my mates were playing competitive football with the likes of Hutchie Vale, Salvesen and Leith and enjoying the banter and regular football whilst I was playing about once every 4 weeks in games that meant nothing beyond trying to get another year. It was short lived and thank god for that.

So many guys I played with walked away from the game entirely at 18/19 because of their experiences. They all could have played for years in the juniors or at semi pro level but despised the game by the end of their 'careers' and just wanted out entirely. Don't play for your school, don't play with your mates, don't train with anyone else, don't do this, that or the other. Oh what fun we had.

I suppose the issue is no club wants to let that potential £5M player slip through their grasp and if that means ruining football for a few dozen others along the way then what do they care. Getting back to the days when players had to stay with their boys club until 16 would be a step back in the right direction. You could still have them affiliated to teams so the atheltic side of things isn't neglected as that's harder to catch up on at a later date. suppose that would require greater continuous assesment of the level of coaching available at said clubs though.

[Brightside]

It why I don’t like us having pro youth. By all means bring in the best 16yo for a good u18s / Dev team. Invest in finding them from local youth teams. Loads of the Scottish school teams are still at youth teams. Loads playing locally. Connect at 14/15. Bring them on at 16.

[cameronw-hfc]

It why I don’t like us having pro youth. By all means bring in the best 16yo for a good u18s / Dev team. Invest in finding them from local youth teams. Loads of the Scottish school teams are still at youth teams. Loads playing locally. Connect at 14/15. Bring them on at 16.


I coach a 2013's team and we've got scouts sniffing about a few of our lads, they're 9 year old. One of the dads has told them to do one a few times as he wants his kid to enjoy his football with us for a bit longer. Shame not all parents see that side.

[Brightside]

I coach a 2013's team and we've got scouts sniffing about a few of our lads, they're 9 year old. One of the dads has told them to do one a few times as he wants his kid to enjoy his football with us for a bit longer. Shame not all parents see that side.

Our club lost 7 players to pro youth when they were 11. 2 of them are still at Hibs at 17. The other 5 no longer play football. It’s a real shame.

[flash]

When I was at Porty High I remember wee Robbo playing for the team a few years above me.
Gogs McLeod who played for Dundee United amongst others played in my year and John Inglis in the year above.
Pretty sure Holyrood had Kano amongst others who went on to have decent careers in the game.

[Bayern Bru]

There are a few under 19 players, that a loan out would be useful, i would assume the squad are been kept together at the moment, so as to be in the best possible shape for Dortmund.
The big problem being i’m pretty sure that Dortmund are a big step up.
They won the German league by 13 points, i think.

They can’t go on loan while they’re playing in the Youth League. Rules forbid it.


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[The dalmeny]

They can’t go on loan while they’re playing in the Youth League. Rules forbid it.


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the UEFA Youth league I assume

[Fanforlife]

The under 18,s drew 1 1 away to Motherwell last night.

[Blaster]

When I was at Porty High I remember wee Robbo playing for the team a few years above me.
Gogs McLeod who played for Dundee United amongst others played in my year and John Inglis in the year above.
Pretty sure Holyrood had Kano amongst others who went on to have decent careers in the game.

Can you remember that far back 😉

[flash]

Can you remember that far back 😉

Aye. Needless to say I didn't make the team.

[The dalmeny]

Reserve cup game tomorrow in Dundee v Utd, 2pm

[Slim Shady]

Yet another one of our best talents on the verge of a move due to the lack of opportunity to play football.

The signing of Jeggo didn’t help. No wonder the young lads are pissed off.

[HH81]

Yet another one of our best talents on the verge of a move due to the lack of opportunity to play football.

The signing of Jeggo didn’t help. No wonder the young lads are pissed off.

Who's on the verge of a move?

[Brightside]

Yet another one of our best talents on the verge of a move due to the lack of opportunity to play football.

The signing of Jeggo didn’t help. No wonder the young lads are pissed off.

Based on the jeggo I’m assuming it’s one of our CMs. Aiken. Hamilton Zaid.

[Billy Whizz]

Based on the jeggo I’m assuming it’s one of our CMs. Aiken. Hamilton Zaid.

The lads can’t wait forever for Hibs to give them a chance