Who are the 10?

[Skol]

We know Bojang is one, who are the others?

I am guessing Mitchell, Hauge, Tavares, Henderson, hanlon, but not sure on a few. Others I could add in there like jDH, cabraja, maybe even Stevenson but not sure.

[dp00]

Bojang
Mitchell
Hanlon
Cabraga
JDH
Tavares
Henderson
Miller
Fish
Kenneh

That would be my ten


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[hibee-boys]

Bojang
Mitchell
Hauge
Henderson
Doidge
Cabraja
Taveres
JDH
Fish
Hanlon

No disrespect to Hanlon who’s been a great servant to the club, and I would actually keep him as back up. However, we need to get rid of the other 9 as soon as possible.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Bojang
Mitchell
Doidge
Cabraja
JDH
Tavares
Henderson
Miller
Fish
Dabrowski
McKirdy (although he makes it 11)

Delferriere
Tait
Hauge

Would be my guess. The last 3 I’m not sure whether they’d be included in the 10 or not with their role at the club being a bit different to the others.

[Wembley67]

Hanlon may not be a starter these days but a player like this is integral to have around the club. I believe he has done his badges or is working in them so definitely keep him at the club 👍

[Ozyhibby]

Bojang
Mitchell
Doidge
Cabraja
JDH
Tavares
Henderson
Miller
Fish
Dabrowski

Delferriere
Tait
Hauge

Would be my guess. The last 3 I’m not sure whether they’d be included in the 10 or not with their role at the club being a bit different to the others.

Apart from Doidge, that’s a horrible list. [emoji35]
I know I give Newell a hard time but that’s because he’s playing. That list is horrific and should be costing someone his job.


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[wookie70]

I'd be looking to get shot of, in this order
Henderson
Cabraja
Tavares
Fish
McKirdy
Doidge

I think Kenneh given his age and position is worth time and Youan is improving too. Melkerson has shown some good ability but if LJ isn't going to give him a chance then cut our losses.

No chance does Hanlon come close to that list and JDH is a good squad player imo

[Iain G]

Bojang
Mitchell
Hanlon
Cabraga
JDH
Tavares
Henderson
Miller
Fish
Kenneh

That would be my ten


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I would keep Miller and Kenneh out of that lot and maybe Tavares? We have worked well coaching Youann so why not these guys? Miller has been injured so unfair to put him on that list.

[Jones28]

Quite surprised at the number of mentions for Tavares, the lad is on a long term deal and was always described as a long term project by Johnson. He’s going nowhere, and nor should he.

[Unseen work]

Johnson’s 10;

Bojang - Gone
Balde - Gone
Bradley - Gone
Hauge
Dabrowski
Mitchell
Tavares - loan
Melkersen - loan

Plus another couple in the dev squad bracket

[Skol]

Quite surprised at the number of mentions for Tavares, the lad is on a long term deal and was always described as a long term project by Johnson. He’s going nowhere, and nor should he.

It’s the fact he gets so little game time that worries me. Henderson regularly played ahead of him.

[LustForLeith]

Did he actually say ten exactly? Or about ten?

[Jones28]

It’s the fact he gets so little game time that worries me. Henderson regularly played ahead of him.

That’s fair but he’s already been described as a long term project, so I’m not that bothered by it.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Quite surprised at the number of mentions for Tavares, the lad is on a long term deal and was always described as a long term project by Johnson. He’s going nowhere, and nor should he.

He’s nearly 22. Whilst we might have thought he was a long term project to some extent I’d be stunned if we expected him to pretty much never feature by now. He’s way too old to be at the stage where he’s simply not good enough to even come off the bench yet but worth persisting with as a long term project.

I’d suspect we’ve been surprised at the level he’s at.

[sahpaton]

Did he actually say ten exactly? Or about ten?

He said something along the lines of ‘I’d rather see 10 leave and one of quality come in’

He never said there are 10 that need to go or that he’s spoken to 10 players that aren’t good enough. People have jumped on a throw away comment and are trying to compile lists for absolutely no reason

[wookie70]

He said something along the lines of ‘I’d rather see 10 leave and one of quality come in’

He never said there are 10 that need to go or that he’s spoken to 10 players that aren’t good enough. People have jumped on a throw away comment and are trying to compile lists for absolutely no reason

We do need players out before we get some in for financial reasons and LJ has mentioned using the budget better. 10 would be dreamland though and if we can lose 3 or 4 that would be a start. Henderson and Cabraja just look soulless to me when they come on the park. Neither look like they want to be here imo so maybe there is a deal to do. Doidge will be hard to get away but maybe loans will suffice there. It is going to be an expensive business as we appear to have ended up with our worst players on long contracts and our best on short ones.

[Donegal Hibby]

There's a couple of thing's surprised me today , the first being Stevenson starting again , I think this is 4 or 5th consecutive start for us which must be hard going on a player coming 35 years , could this be a indication Cabraja is carrying a knock or something or Johnson doesn't see him as good as Stevenson? And maybe he's one of the ten ? The other thing that surprised me was Mckirdy not getting on , Johnson went for Melkersen instead , could Mckirdy be one also ? Henderson has got to be one as well I think. Cabraja, Henderson, JDH Mckirdy plus the 3 already away that makes 7 !

[Northernhibee]

Bojang
Henderson
Tavares
Fish
McKirdy
Hauge
Melkersen
Mitchell
Doidge
Cabraja

[jacomo]

Quite surprised at the number of mentions for Tavares, the lad is on a long term deal and was always described as a long term project by Johnson. He’s going nowhere, and nor should he.


Don’t understand why we gave him the No.10 shirt. Just piles pressure on his shoulders (and obvs denied this number to Boyle when he returned)

[Gmack7]

How did we manage to get in a position where we want to move on 10 players we dont need who are under contract, what a mess

[SMAXXA]

I think 10 was an off the cuff round number I wouldn’t pay too much attention to it being 10 on the nose.

[Libby Hibby]

How did we manage to get in a position where we want to move on 10 players we dont need who are under contract, what a mess

Aye it is but I think it’s good that they are trying to cut the numbers down a bit.

[loanheadhibby]

How did we manage to get in a position where we want to move on 10 players we dont need who are under contract, what a mess

What’s as worrying, we are relying on the guys who got us in this mess, to fix it and get it right.

New structure won’t be in place before end of window

[Donegal Hibby]

What’s as worrying, we are relying on the guys who got us in this mess, to fix it and get it right.

New structure won’t be in place before end of window
This is true LH though in most cases in life when someone makes a mistake they learn from it and aren't normally likely to repeat the same mistake again . I'd imagine it's been well discussed between manager , chairman and recruitment team that we haven't recruited particularly well . Doesn't take a genius to work that one out so I'm hoping for maybe a 3 possible 4 quality signings if we can in what's a notorious hard transfer window!

[BoomtownHibees]

I’m no sure the “10” was the literal number that LJ wants out

[Northernhibee]

What concerns me is how easy it was to come up with ten players I’d be comfortable moving on.

[Paulie Walnuts]

What concerns me is how easy it was to come up with ten players I’d be comfortable moving on.

I got to 14 and that’s without Hanlon who from a purely playing perspective I’d be happy to go as well.

[Sir David Gray]

Tavares
Mitchell
Melkersen
McKirdy
Hauge
Doyle Hayes
Doidge
Henderson
Mackay
Tait

There's quite a number of others who I wouldn't be unhappy to see leave but the above would be up there.

[Unseen work]

He said in his pre match interview 10 was used as an example

[Tambo]

I have been wanting to see a bit more of Jair in the past games as he looked much better than what I've seen in the friendly vs Raith and then has not been called upon since.

[Donegal Hibby]

Tavares
Mitchell
Melkersen
McKirdy
Hauge
Doyle Hayes
Doidge
Henderson
Mackay
Tait

There's quite a number of others who I wouldn't be unhappy to see leave but the above would be up there.
There's five in there I'm not sure i would want to see go yet !

[LunasBoots]

It’s the fact he gets so little game time that worries me. Henderson regularly played ahead of him.

He's a long term project, he's a young lad whose still getting used to Scotland, it takes time

[Chuck Rhoades]

I’d personally cull these 14:

Cabraja
Fish
Hanlon
McGregor
Miller
Mitchell
Porto (regrettably leaving)
Doyle-Hayes
Henderson
Hauge
Kenneh
McKirdy
Bojang
Taveres

Could also make arguments for below, but I’d keep until the summer and see how things go:

Kukharevych
Melk

[hibsforeurope]

Bojang
Mitchell
Doidge
Cabraja
JDH
Tavares
Henderson
Miller
Fish
Dabrowski
McKirdy (although he makes it 11)

Delferriere
Tait
Hauge

Would be my guess. The last 3 I’m not sure whether they’d be included in the 10 or not with their role at the club being a bit different to the others.

There are some high earners in that list that are not contributing nearly enough. if we can agree terminations for their contracts then it would free up a serious chunk to bring in a quality player or 2.

[cameronw-hfc]

What’s as worrying, we are relying on the guys who got us in this mess, to fix it and get it right.

New structure won’t be in place before end of window


It could be, although I doubt it would be public by the end of the window. It's being sped up massively by the hearts loss, I know that much.

[hibsforeurope]

It could be, although I doubt it would be public by the end of the window. It's being sped up massively by the hearts loss, I know that much.

It should have been at full speed long before the hearts game, and in place before the World Cup break to allow time for it to work in this window.

[Alex Trager]

It should have been at full speed long before the hearts game, and in place before the World Cup break to allow time for it to work in this window.

Complete madness we’ve had the perfect break in play to utilise and bring someone in so we could be prepared for this window.

Yet here we are.

Scrambling about. Probably going to give the new guy nearly no time at all to get the appropriate signings in.

[cameronw-hfc]

Complete madness we’ve had the perfect break in play to utilise and bring someone in so we could be prepared for this window.

Yet here we are.

Scrambling about. Probably going to give the new guy nearly no time at all to get the appropriate signings in.



Instead of moaning about how long it's taking us, I'm just happy were finally trying to do it the right way. Personally not fussed if it takes us an extra few weeks to do it, but it's defo being accelerated now. Whether it's in time for this window I don't know, but I'm just happy were going back to a proven structure, even if it takes longer than we hope.

[Alex Trager]

Instead of moaning about how long it's taking us, I'm just happy were finally trying to do it the right way. Personally not fussed if it takes us an extra few weeks to do it, but it's defo being accelerated now. Whether it's in time for this window I don't know, but I'm just happy were going back to a proven structure, even if it takes longer than we hope.

I’m delighted about it.

I’m also fairly pissed off it’s not already in place.

We need quality in yesterday, so it should have all been sorted by now.

There is loads to play for this season.

[Paulie Walnuts]

It should have been at full speed long before the hearts game, and in place before the World Cup break to allow time for it to work in this window.

Yeah. Seems bizarre that it wasn’t deemed important enough until a defeat to Hearts.

If it can be sped up be a defeat to Hearts, it already should have been sped up well previously to that.

[cameronw-hfc]

I’m delighted about it.

I’m also fairly pissed off it’s not already in place.

We need quality in yesterday, so it should have all been sorted by now.

There is loads to play for this season.


These things take time, and it's not like it was agreed on that we would go back to this structure months ago. As far as I'm aware the club has not long decided to do this and despite their many shortcomings they are actively trying to get this done as fast as possible.

There were/still might be a lot of red tape issues to get past that I'm not sure I'll mention, but fingers crossed everything gets approved from those higher up it shouldn't be too long👍.

[allezsauzee]

I'm a bit surprised at how many people are convinced that Henderson is one of the players. I'm not sure he would have be regularly getting game time recently if he had been told he could go. I don't rate him but I don't think he'll be one that's been told he can go.

[Hibee Mac]

I'm a bit surprised at how many people are convinced that Henderson is one of the players. I'm not sure he would have be regularly getting game time recently if he had been told he could go. I don't rate him but I don't think he'll be one that's been told he can go.I'd be surprised if LJ thought Henderson was worth keeping considering his performances. I'm also surprised he's getting any minutes at all, but LJ is not blind

[allezsauzee]

I'd be surprised if LJ thought Henderson was worth keeping considering his performances. I'm also surprised he's getting any minutes at all, but LJ is not blind

I don't think he's much good either but he's in every squad and normally gets brought on. I'd be happy enough to proven wrong but I'd assume we'd have to smooth the way by paying part of his wages because I don't see him moving to a club paying better than we do. he must have another couple of years on his deal too.

[thebausburst]

Quite surprised at the number of mentions for Tavares, the lad is on a long term deal and was always described as a long term project by Johnson. He’s going nowhere, and nor should he.

He looks a level or two below SPL to be fair and probably would struggle to get into Scottish championship side defo one the club would offload if they can.

[I'm Spartacus]

Mental to think most of them would be guys he brought in, plus throwing a couple of our long standing guys under the bus who are currently having to cover the ***** that's in front of them.

The "10 need to go" was just an empty threat to get the squad to wake up, it worked with 3 points v Motherwell. I bet nowhere near 10 leave.

[SMAXXA]

Mental to think most of them would be guys he brought in, plus throwing a couple of our long standing guys under the bus who are currently having to cover the ***** that's in front of them.

The "10 need to go" was just an empty threat to get the squad to wake up, it worked with 3 points v Motherwell. I bet nowhere near 10 leave.

Head already clarified his comments

[brog]

I think 10 was an off the cuff round number I wouldn’t pay too much attention to it being 10 on the nose.


It was! I'm not sure what was more ludicrous, LJ's comment or Hibs Net having a thread on it!

[MrRobot]

It was clear as day that 10 was just an example to strengthen his point. At no point did he says he told 10 players he could leave, just the usual jumping to conclusions.

[HIBS NUTS]

Hauge
Tait
JDH
Allan-Def
Balde
Mackay
Bojang
Dabroski
Fish
Miitchel

[SMAXXA]

Hauge
Tait
JDH
Allan-Def
Balde
Mackay
Bojang
Dabroski
Fish
Miitchel

Nope

[Jones28]

He looks a level or two below SPL to be fair and probably would struggle to get into Scottish championship side defo one the club would offload if they can.

To be even fairer than that, how can you give a player who’s had even less game time than McKirdy a fair assessment when he’s barely kicked a ball. He’s 19 and the club have given him a 5 year deal. Jeez.

[HIBS NUTS]

Nope

So none of them then.
😄

[SMAXXA]

So none of them then.
😄

4/5 yeah lol

[HIBS NUTS]

4/5 yeah lol

Im glad you have a sense of humour 👍🏻
i’ve got 2 right already .
so hoping for 7
let’s see your 10,
see who gets the most. 😄

[HIBS NUTS]

Jack Brydon has left
one of the 3 Perviously Loaned to FC EDINBURGH

[Brightside]

Jack Brydon has left
one of the 3 Perviously Loaned to FC EDINBURGH

who were coming back to go "full time into the dev squad". :greengrin

[HIBS NUTS]

who were coming back to go "full time into the dev squad". :greengrin

Apparently

[SickBoy32]

He looks a level or two below SPL to be fair and probably would struggle to get into Scottish championship side defo one the club would offload if they can.

Have thought similar about both Tavares and Melkerson - is there any indication these guys would get regular game time in the champ ?

Not from what I've seen in all honesty, will be interesting to see how the rest of the month pans out in that regard

[HIBS NUTS]

Kevin dabrowski gone to QOTS as well, till the end of the season, when he’s out of contract.
Great lad, and decent shot stopper.
Hopefully we see Murray Johnstone as second keeper next season .

[WeeRussell]

Have thought similar about both Tavares and Melkerson - is there any indication these guys would get regular game time in the champ ?

Not from what I've seen in all honesty, will be interesting to see how the rest of the month pans out in that regard

I’m not ready to write-off Melkersen challenging to get in our team regularly never mind a championship side. I think he’s shown some quality in the time he’s been here, especially given we’ve been a pish team to work with since the day he got here.

Some aren’t happy at the limited time McKirdy has got with us.. I think the younger Melkersen has shown far more quality and potential.

[Since452]

I’m not ready to write-off Melkersen challenging to get in our team regularly never mind a championship side. I think he’s shown some quality in the time he’s been here, especially given we’ve been a pish team to work with since the day he got here.

Some aren’t happy at the limited time McKirdy has got with us.. I think the younger Melkersen has shown far more quality and potential.

Melkersen is ahead of McKirdy for me. I think he has more potential. At 26 McKirdy is close to his prime and has done nothing other than hit a shot over the bar. Melkersen is nowhere near his prime yet. I think he has a long way to go and would probably benefit from a loan but if I had to chose one to leave it would be McKirdy.

[Winston Ingram]

I’m not ready to write-off Melkersen challenging to get in our team regularly never mind a championship side. I think he’s shown some quality in the time he’s been here, especially given we’ve been a pish team to work with since the day he got here.

Some aren’t happy at the limited time McKirdy has got with us.. I think the younger Melkersen has shown far more quality and potential.

Melkersen definately has shown in flashes he has something about him. I've not really seen enough of McKirdy to offer any opinion.

[Musselbound]

Have thought similar about both Tavares and Melkerson - is there any indication these guys would get regular game time in the champ ?

Not from what I've seen in all honesty, will be interesting to see how the rest of the month pans out in that regard

We won't know the answer to your question unless we see how they perform there. I'd be happy to see either or both go out on loan to the Championship. They are out on the fringe of our first team at the moment.

[Smartie]

I don’t like being overly critical of young players but I don’t see what others see in Melkerson, he looks miles off bring ready to me.

As a team we just seem to be better when we have the likes of Magennis, Nisbet and McGeady in it and we drop off quite drastically when we need to call upon Melkerson, Henderson and the like, much as I would like them to be successful.

I’m also in the “jury’s out” camp with McKirdy, not seen him play nearly enough to make a comment.