Queen's Park FC

[RIP]

What's their secret?

On track for three promotions in three seasons. Some guy called Murray top scorer 3 seasons in a row?

[Northernhibee]

A CEO who has a scooby how to run a football club.

[Libby Hibby]

Everything LD touches turns to gold

[Smartie]

A CEO who has a scooby how to run a football club.

Someone who really doesn't get the credit they deserve imo.

[Northernhibee]

Someone who really doesn't get the credit they deserve imo.
I wonder if their fans are thinking “yeah, but we could do with fancier hospitality and a multi million pound catering deal”?

[Hibby Bairn]

Biggest wage budget. No real miracle.

Bankrolled by Lord Haughey. But is it sustainable?

[Glory Lurker]

Biggest wage budget. No real miracle.

Bankrolled by Lord Haughey. But is it sustainable?

Aye. You've fair spoiled the agenda there, HB!

[Waxy]

Can they use the national stadium for league games against the uglies?
They will be a force if they can.

[Since452]

Biggest wage budget. No real miracle.

Bankrolled by Lord Haughey. But is it sustainable?

Yup. Not really a surprise. We've seen it with Gretna, Livi etc.

[Billy Whizz]

Yup. Not really a surprise. We've seen it with Gretna, Livi etc.

This guy has real money though

[Since452]

Actually wouldn't mind seeing QP return to the top. A very historical football club with long suffering loyal fans. Also a lot of time for LD.

[Smartie]

Biggest wage budget. No real miracle.

Bankrolled by Lord Haughey. But is it sustainable?

Do they really have the biggest wage budget in the Championship?

They'll have bullied their way up the leagues but I'd be surprised if they were sinking that much into it relative to the other sides in the division.

And from memory it's not that easy a league to get out of, even if you have more money to spend than the other teams.

[Just_Jimmy]

Biggest wage budget. No real miracle.

Bankrolled by Lord Haughey. But is it sustainable?Utilising their competitive advantage, or punching their weight instead of pissing it all away ... you could say?

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[green day]

I would say good luck to them, but Willie Haughey is a prick.

When the national stadium was up for tender he kept offering the SFA more money as "The national Stadium must be in Glasgow".

Hes a Celtic fan as well.

Throwing loads of money at the project though, removed the astro from their pitch but the chat seems to be that they will have to groundshare with someone as their place only holds 3000.

They wont be using Hampden, but lets hope it isnt Partick as their pitch is a mess.

[Willis1875]

I would say good luck to them, but Willie Haughey is a prick.

When the national stadium was up for tender he kept offering the SFA more money as "The national Stadium must be in Glasgow".

Hes a Celtic fan as well.

Throwing loads of money at the project though, removed the astro from their pitch but the chat seems to be that they will have to groundshare with someone as their place only holds 3000.

They wont be using Hampden, but lets hope it isnt Partick as their pitch is a mess.

If they come up I don’t think we have too much to worry about in regards to where their pitch is…..at this rate

[1875Sean]

Can they use the national stadium for league games against the uglies?
They will be a force if they can.

They don’t own hampden anymore so I doubt it

[Bostonhibby]

I wonder if their fans are thinking “yeah, but we could do with fancier hospitality and a multi million pound catering deal”?Have they got big tellies?

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[Billy Whizz]

They don’t own hampden anymore so I doubt it

Did Haughey not help the SFA buy Hampden?

[Hibees1973]

Did Haughey not help the SFA buy Hampden?

Indeed he did.

If Queen's Park come up I expect Haughey to use this as a bargaining chip for them to play their home games at Hampden next season.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I wonder if their fans are thinking “yeah, but we could do with fancier hospitality and a multi million pound catering deal”?

Probably asking where the stadium is though.

[Danderhall Hibs]

They don’t own hampden anymore so I doubt it

Yeah - sold it and have been ground hopping due to the rebuild delay on lesser hampden. Spent a load of the money going pro hence why they’re top.

[1875Sean]

Indeed he did.

If Queen's Park come up I expect Haughey to use this as a bargaining chip for them to play their home games at Hampden next season.

Yeah he did and the SFA own it, they are not going to start letting Queen’s Park play there twice a season for Rangers and Celtic, would be ridiculous basically making it a away game

[Hibby Bairn]

Wouldn't be so sure. Haughey is already discussing ownership of Toryglen next door.

The problem for QP is that the original business plan was to get to the Prem in 4 seasons which they are on track for.

But the fan and community base build (LD's job) along with the new stadium and commercial income is lagging this.

[LustForLeith]

Really good article in Mundial magazine recently about Queens Park that they’ve reproduced in a recent newsletter

Here’s the excerpt

“We were the first team to introduce the crossbar…” says Queen’s Park’s Head of Commercial, Kieran Koszary, as he dips a chip in gravy at Best Chippy Hampden, brandishing it briefly as if proud of the chips, of Glasgow itself, and of the football team across the road building a new home in the shadow of a world-famous national stadium. “The inventors of the passing game”, he continues, growing in enthusiasm now and helping himself to another, “the first ticketed fixture, the first use of a turnstile at a football match. There’s so much history here, and that’s why we were all drawn to it.”

The ‘we’ Kieran is referring to is a new hierarchy at Scotland’s oldest football club, brought on board by Queen’s Park’s most generous benefactor Lord Willie Haughey and consisting of Marijn Beuker, a charismatic Director of Football and former AZ Alkmaar youth guru, Leeann Dempster, the former CEO of both Motherwell and Hibernian, and most recently Glasgow local Owen Coyle. You know him.

Kieran made the leap across from Falkirk, where he had spent eight happy years. Why? It’s the vision they all share, he says, to take The Spiders to the very top and to challenge the blue and emerald green dominance of the two clubs they share a city with.

After 150-odd years as the world’s most storied amateur football club, ten Scottish Cup wins, two appearances in the FA Cup Final (that’s right), and cameos from Sir Alex Ferguson and Liverpool’s Andrew Robertson, Queen’s Park are back on the up. They’ve got a plan, and they invited MUNDIAL to the Southside to learn all about it…

Marijn Beuker is in the car park waiting to meet us. He strides toward us and stretches out a gigantic Dutch hand for me to shake. He looks like the football coaches Rafa Benítez and José Mourinho have nightmares about. Pundit trainers, slim trousers, a T-shirt and the perfectly sculpted hair of a Eurovision entry. Nagelsmann in ZARA, Jesse Marsch without the Yee-hawws. He’s straight into the apologies, pointing at things he’s going to have painted a different colour, showing us where the new pitches will go in the middle distance, and talking us through his pride and joy—a gravel pit of a car park that he wants to turn into a cinder pitch. It soon becomes apparent that, like every other football enthusiast from The Netherlands, he believes great players are made playing on rough surfaces.

“I came here in September,” he explains a short time later, in what will eventually be a large office that looks out across three new football pitches but is currently a big boardroom. "The original plan was to have this place as our training facility for the first team, but things change fast here. They’re always changing to be bigger or better. Now the plan is that this place can be somewhere for the reserves, the development team, and the U-18s as well.”

“The first words I said when I arrived at the club were, ‘everything I am going to do is related to winning in the long term.’ We want the first team to win, but we need to be winning in a sustainable way. I was fortunate enough to work with Billy Bean at my old club”, says Marijn, following up with a generous “Moneyball?” just in case I’d not done the required reading. “The CEO at my old club, AZ Alkmaar, was a former New York Yankees player, he was friends with Billy Bean, and Billy had a share in the club. He actively helped. We used their model.”

Marijn speaks fondly of the job Michael Edwards has done at Liverpool with a similar model—“a great guy”—drops Louis van Gaal and Guus Hiddink’s names into the conversation without them clanging to the floor, and proudly proclaims himself to be a disciple of Johan Cruyff. The man who started it all, he says. “I try to understand what winning looks like. I try to be objective with information and work backwards. What do you need to do in these different age groups to build success ten years later? We are looking at talent identification, along with cognitive, technical, and physical control. This should be the emphasis of age group football. I always say to coaches, ‘I don’t pay you to become a champion; I pay you to help the childhood programme.’ That’s what we have to achieve here. By the time the player is in the first team, it’s too late to fix these things.”

Part Cruyffian re-gen from a great conveyor belt of single-minded Dutch coaches and part Silicon Valley podcast host, Marijn’s enthusiasm is infectious. He explains how he dropped out of high school to pursue football, talks us through his internships at Nice, Espanyol and Roma, and how he has always been a student of the game. Most tellingly, he talks of how he is capable of removing all emotion from his footballing decisions. He’s not a fan, he says. And that’s important.



***

In the past I used to cover lower league Scottish matches and spent a couple of Saturdays at Hampden with just over 200 fans in the national stadium…

[Lago]

Simon Murray

[Torto7]

Wouldn't be so sure. Haughey is already discussing ownership of Toryglen next door.

The problem for QP is that the original business plan was to get to the Prem in 4 seasons which they are on track for.

But the fan and community base build (LD's job) along with the new stadium and commercial income is lagging this.

That sounds familiar. Has she got her pal working in the commercial dept again?

[cabbageandribs1875]

That sounds familiar. Has she got her pal working in the commercial dept again?


i thought she was at Glasgow City

[Torto7]

[QUOTE=cabbageandribs1875;7221376]i thought she was at Glasgow City[/QUOTE

I dont know I was just wondering. I remember someone on here wanted to invest in Sponsoring Hibs and was directed to the ladies team by her. That's the type of petty personal politics that shouldn't get in the way of running the club. The much maligned Kensall has done a lot of good things for the ladies team.

[cabbageandribs1875]

[QUOTE=cabbageandribs1875;7221376]i thought she was at Glasgow City[/QUOTE

I dont know I was just wondering. I remember someone on here wanted to invest in Sponsoring Hibs and was directed to the ladies team by her. That's the type of petty personal politics that shouldn't get in the way of running the club. The much maligned Kensall has done a lot of good things for the ladies team.


yeah it was something like that

[davhibby]

I wonder if their fans are thinking “yeah, but we could do with fancier hospitality and a multi million pound catering deal”?

They’re going to have a stadium that holds 900 because one side of the ground has been given over to a 40 seat VIP stand so probably not the best way to go here.

On the pitch they’re doing well because they have money, off the park they’re a shambles and my QP supporting pals hold a lower opinion of LD than most Hibs fans do of Ben Kensell.

Sorry to burst the bubble of this thread though

[Keith_M]

...

Throwing loads of money at the project though, removed the astro from their pitch but the chat seems to be that they will have to groundshare with someone as their place only holds 3000.

They wont be using Hampden, but lets hope it isnt Partick as their pitch is a mess.


The new stadium they're building will only have a capacity of 1,700.

They managed to hire Hampden recently for a game against Hamilton and the attendance was over 3,000.

[Keith_M]

They’re going to have a stadium that holds 900 because one side of the ground has been given over to a 40 seat VIP stand so probably not the best way to go here.


They're also planning to have a 500 seater stand for away fans on the south side of the stadium.

[davhibby]

They're also planning to have a 500 seater stand for away fans on the south side of the stadium.

Apparently at the AGM the other week they didn’t seem very optimistic of that happening however I guess promotion may change that.

[Keith_M]

Apparently at the AGM the other week they didn’t seem very optimistic of that happening however I guess promotion may change that.


:aok:

TBF, it is taking a lot longer than expected.

[Glory Lurker]

I've seen photos of the redevelopment,and it looks decidedly unimpressive.

[scoopyboy]

The new stadium they're building will only have a capacity of 1,700.

They managed to hire Hampden recently for a game against Hamilton and the attendance was over 3,000.

Would they get into the top league with that size of ground?

[Is It On....]

Really good article in Mundial magazine recently about Queens Park that they’ve reproduced in a recent newsletter

Here’s the excerpt

“We were the first team to introduce the crossbar…” says Queen’s Park’s Head of Commercial, Kieran Koszary, as he dips a chip in gravy at Best Chippy Hampden, brandishing it briefly as if proud of the chips, of Glasgow itself, and of the football team across the road building a new home in the shadow of a world-famous national stadium. “The inventors of the passing game”, he continues, growing in enthusiasm now and helping himself to another, “the first ticketed fixture, the first use of a turnstile at a football match. There’s so much history here, and that’s why we were all drawn to it.”

The ‘we’ Kieran is referring to is a new hierarchy at Scotland’s oldest football club, brought on board by Queen’s Park’s most generous benefactor Lord Willie Haughey and consisting of Marijn Beuker, a charismatic Director of Football and former AZ Alkmaar youth guru, Leeann Dempster, the former CEO of both Motherwell and Hibernian, and most recently Glasgow local Owen Coyle. You know him.

Kieran made the leap across from Falkirk, where he had spent eight happy years. Why? It’s the vision they all share, he says, to take The Spiders to the very top and to challenge the blue and emerald green dominance of the two clubs they share a city with.

After 150-odd years as the world’s most storied amateur football club, ten Scottish Cup wins, two appearances in the FA Cup Final (that’s right), and cameos from Sir Alex Ferguson and Liverpool’s Andrew Robertson, Queen’s Park are back on the up. They’ve got a plan, and they invited MUNDIAL to the Southside to learn all about it…

Marijn Beuker is in the car park waiting to meet us. He strides toward us and stretches out a gigantic Dutch hand for me to shake. He looks like the football coaches Rafa Benítez and José Mourinho have nightmares about. Pundit trainers, slim trousers, a T-shirt and the perfectly sculpted hair of a Eurovision entry. Nagelsmann in ZARA, Jesse Marsch without the Yee-hawws. He’s straight into the apologies, pointing at things he’s going to have painted a different colour, showing us where the new pitches will go in the middle distance, and talking us through his pride and joy—a gravel pit of a car park that he wants to turn into a cinder pitch. It soon becomes apparent that, like every other football enthusiast from The Netherlands, he believes great players are made playing on rough surfaces.

“I came here in September,” he explains a short time later, in what will eventually be a large office that looks out across three new football pitches but is currently a big boardroom. "The original plan was to have this place as our training facility for the first team, but things change fast here. They’re always changing to be bigger or better. Now the plan is that this place can be somewhere for the reserves, the development team, and the U-18s as well.”

“The first words I said when I arrived at the club were, ‘everything I am going to do is related to winning in the long term.’ We want the first team to win, but we need to be winning in a sustainable way. I was fortunate enough to work with Billy Bean at my old club”, says Marijn, following up with a generous “Moneyball?” just in case I’d not done the required reading. “The CEO at my old club, AZ Alkmaar, was a former New York Yankees player, he was friends with Billy Bean, and Billy had a share in the club. He actively helped. We used their model.”

Marijn speaks fondly of the job Michael Edwards has done at Liverpool with a similar model—“a great guy”—drops Louis van Gaal and Guus Hiddink’s names into the conversation without them clanging to the floor, and proudly proclaims himself to be a disciple of Johan Cruyff. The man who started it all, he says. “I try to understand what winning looks like. I try to be objective with information and work backwards. What do you need to do in these different age groups to build success ten years later? We are looking at talent identification, along with cognitive, technical, and physical control. This should be the emphasis of age group football. I always say to coaches, ‘I don’t pay you to become a champion; I pay you to help the childhood programme.’ That’s what we have to achieve here. By the time the player is in the first team, it’s too late to fix these things.”

Part Cruyffian re-gen from a great conveyor belt of single-minded Dutch coaches and part Silicon Valley podcast host, Marijn’s enthusiasm is infectious. He explains how he dropped out of high school to pursue football, talks us through his internships at Nice, Espanyol and Roma, and how he has always been a student of the game. Most tellingly, he talks of how he is capable of removing all emotion from his footballing decisions. He’s not a fan, he says. And that’s important.



***

In the past I used to cover lower league Scottish matches and spent a couple of Saturdays at Hampden with just over 200 fans in the national stadium…

So QUEENS PARK have a Director of Football who formerly at AZ Alkmaar in youth development, Leeann Dempster as CEO and Owen Coyle as manager vs Ian Gordon, Ben Kensall and Lee Johnson. Just let that sink in.

[Sir David Gray]

Would they get into the top league with that size of ground?

There's no minimum number of seats that a top flight stadium must have anymore.

[Danderhall Hibs]

There's no minimum number of seats that a top flight stadium must have anymore.

And do you need your own stadium at all?

[Danderhall Hibs]

So QUEENS PARK have a Director of Football who formerly at AZ Alkmaar in youth development, Leeann Dempster as CEO and Owen Coyle as manager vs Ian Gordon, Ben Kensall and Lee Johnson. Just let that sink in.

I’ve tried but struggling to get past the Owen Coyle bit.

[Is It On....]

I’ve tried but struggling to get past the Owen Coyle bit.

The Billy Bean connection to AZ is fascinating and now part of that connection is at Queen's Park. It will interesting to see what happens with their recruitment in the next few seasons.

[green day]

The new stadium they're building will only have a capacity of 1,700.

They managed to hire Hampden recently for a game against Hamilton and the attendance was over 3,000.

Ah, my mistake thanks.

If I put my dislike of Haughey aside, their journey is interesting - but its a real shame the stadium is going to be quite that small.

[He's here!]

Ah, my mistake thanks.

If I put my dislike of Haughey aside, their journey is interesting - but its a real shame the stadium is going to be quite that small.

I'd hazard a guess that with the amount of tenement housing there plus its immediate proximity to Hampden that room for development/planning permission would pose difficulties.

Good luck to them though. I'll always hold Leeann in the highest regard for the turnaround she oversaw at Hibs.

[cabbageandribs1875]

lets see where Queens Park are after their next five games, all very tough ones...

A- ICT
A- Dundee
H- Ayr
H- Raith

then A- Hamilton

[Lancs Harp]

The romantic or Roy in the Rovers scenario would be Queens Park moved back and redeveloped Cathkin. That would be cool. Their influence on the early days of Scottish football is immense. They were Scottish football.

[wookie70]

lets see where Queens Park are after their next five games, all very tough ones...

A- ICT
A- Dundee
H- Ayr
H- Raith

then A- Hamilton

I fancy they will still be top from what I have seen so far. Im at the ICT game hoping to see some Simon Murray goals. Always liked him as a player and could do with his workrate

[cabbageandribs1875]

I fancy they will still be top from what I have seen so far. Im at the ICT game hoping to see some Simon Murray goals. Always liked him as a player and could do with his workrate


it's a pity BBC have the friday night game on the 27th as Cove v Ayr, the following day is the Dundee/QP game



workrate is something he certainly didn't lack

[HTD1875]

Dempster has made a right balls up of plenty issues since her arrival at Queens Park. Fans certainly not happy with what’s happening off the park all be it this is sweetened by the results on the park. Last season started before she had the chance to sort out season tickets and fans were locked out the first few games. The Stadium redevelopment seems to be taking a very long time and doesn’t look great.

[Pagan Hibernia]

The romantic or Roy in the Rovers scenario would be Queens Park moved back and redeveloped Cathkin. That would be cool. Their influence on the early days of Scottish football is immense. They were Scottish football.

I thought it was a real shame when they made that decision to go pro three years ago.

I can understand why they did it of course, and it’s their members decision but I was surprised by the size of the majority that voted for it… 91%. Thought there’d be a few more romantics wanting to hang on to amateur status. It’s what made Queens Park special, even if it was holding them back

[Smartie]

Dempster has made a right balls up of plenty issues since her arrival at Queens Park. Fans certainly not happy with what’s happening off the park all be it this is sweetened by the results on the park. Last season started before she had the chance to sort out season tickets and fans were locked out the first few games. The Stadium redevelopment seems to be taking a very long time and doesn’t look great.

I wouldn't like to be redeveloping a stadium in the current climate. As far as I'm aware "supply issues" affect just about every industry in every nation post-covid and in the UK we've got to chuck Brexit into the equation.

We're pretty fortunate we did all the stands when we did. IIRC the board took a bit of flak for doing it when they did at the expense of the team but it's certainly paid off long term.

So I'm not sure a clunky stadium redevelopment can be just down to one CEO.

I certainly don't think she's infallible but she gets a lot more right than she gets wrong.

[Jones28]

Yeah he did and the SFA own it, they are not going to start letting Queen’s Park play there twice a season for Rangers and Celtic, would be ridiculous basically making it a away game

How ****ing depressing would that be?

A club moves stadium so they can sell 50,000 tickets to Old Firm fans.

All hypothetical of course 😂

[Jones28]

Dempster has made a right balls up of plenty issues since her arrival at Queens Park. Fans certainly not happy with what’s happening off the park all be it this is sweetened by the results on the park. Last season started before she had the chance to sort out season tickets and fans were locked out the first few games. The Stadium redevelopment seems to be taking a very long time and doesn’t look great.

I’d defy anyone to not make a balls up of any construction project at the moment.

Does nobody watch grand designs?

[cameronw-hfc]

I wouldn't like to be redeveloping a stadium in the current climate. As far as I'm aware "supply issues" affect just about every industry in every nation post-covid and in the UK we've got to chuck Brexit into the equation.

We're pretty fortunate we did all the stands when we did. IIRC the board took a bit of flak for doing it when they did at the expense of the team but it's certainly paid off long term.

So I'm not sure a clunky stadium redevelopment can be just down to one CEO.

I certainly don't think she's infallible but she gets a lot more right than she gets wrong.


Dempsters issues have always been the commercial side tbf. She's a ceo that will nail the football side but almost neglect the commercial. If we could merge her and Kensell into one CEO, they'd be world class.😂

[marinello59]

Dempsters issues have always been the commercial side tbf. She's a ceo that will nail the football side but almost neglect the commercial. If we could merge her and Kensell into one CEO, they'd be world class.😂

She did not neglect the commercial side no matter how many times the current regime claim she did. I’ll wait to see the accounts before judging just how well Kensell has done as well.

[He's here!]

The romantic or Roy in the Rovers scenario would be Queens Park moved back and redeveloped Cathkin. That would be cool. Their influence on the early days of Scottish football is immense. They were Scottish football.

Was Cathkin Park not the home of Third Lanark for far longer than Queen's Park? Think QP leased it for a few years before building Hampden?

[Keith_M]

Ah, my mistake thanks.

If I put my dislike of Haughey aside, their journey is interesting - but its a real shame the stadium is going to be quite that small.


Yeah, I agree. I genuinely think they could get pretty decent attendances.

[flash]

Yeah, I agree. I genuinely think they could get pretty decent attendances.

They might have to introduce loyalty points.

[Pretty Boy]

I thought it was a real shame when they made that decision to go pro three years ago.

I can understand why they did it of course, and it’s their members decision but I was surprised by the size of the majority that voted for it… 91%. Thought there’d be a few more romantics wanting to hang on to amateur status. It’s what made Queens Park special, even if it was holding them back

The pyramid spooked them. If they had dropped into the Lowland League as amateurs they would have struggled to ever get back out.

I know a couple of League Two clubs went after 2 players from a Lowland side in the summer and couldn't get close to bettering what they were being paid. The likes of Berwick Rangers, East Stirling and Cowdenbeath aren't competitive in that league. If Queens Parks had stayed amateur there's every chance they would have been playing West of Scotland League football at some point in the next decade.

[green day]

Yeah, I agree. I genuinely think they could get pretty decent attendances.

I have an old boss who lives just outside Glasgow - he was brought up a Celtic fan but didnt want to introduce his son to the more unsavoury aspects of that club.

Took his son along to Albion Rovers a few years back and they have been going ever since.

I suspect there is potential in Glasgow for people who are not "Celtic or Rangers minded" although how large is debatable, as we can see with the likes of Partick Thistle.


They might have to introduce loyalty points.

:greengrin

[superfurryhibby]

I fancy they will still be top from what I have seen so far. Im at the ICT game hoping to see some Simon Murray goals. Always liked him as a player and could do with his workrate

18 goals from 24 games from Murray. That’s decent, championship or not.

It would be interesting to know how Queens Park’s budget compares to other sides in that league. Having a decent manager has no doubt helped a lot too.

[green day]

I wonder how the SFA (who took Willie Haugheys cash to ensure Hampden stayed as the home of Scottish Football) will deal with this faux pas by Queens Park?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64487677

[Danderhall Hibs]

I wonder how the SFA (who took Willie Haugheys cash to ensure Hampden stayed as the home of Scottish Football) will deal with this faux pas by Queens Park?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64487677

Doesn’t give the impression of a very well run club this does it?

[tamig]

I wonder how the SFA (who took Willie Haugheys cash to ensure Hampden stayed as the home of Scottish Football) will deal with this faux pas by Queens Park?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64487677

They’ll struggle to explain anything other than expulsion - considering Banks o’ Dee’s fate. A tricky one. The tache will be on mega-twitch.

[Iain G]

Doesn’t give the impression of a very well run club this does it?

Bloody Kensell....!!!

[Northernhibee]

Bloody Kensell....!!!
What would another club fielding an ineligible player have to do with the shambles we’ve endured this season, given we also forfeited a match in cup competition for fielding an ineligible player?

[HoboHarry]

Probably flung oot the cup for a clerical error whilst the now defunct Rangers were allowed "imperfectly registered" players for nearly a decade. Rotten to the core.

[CapitalGreen]

Doesn’t give the impression of a very well run club this does it?

Absolutely ****ing amateur. Utterly pathetic.

[Since90+2]

Doesn’t give the impression of a very well run club this does it?

Agreed.

[Iain G]

What would another club fielding an ineligible player have to do with the shambles we’ve endured this season, given we also forfeited a match in cup competition for fielding an ineligible player?

Oh I thought he was just automatically to blame for stuff?

[Stonewall]

I wonder if their fans are thinking “yeah, but we could do with fancier hospitality and a multi million pound catering deal”?

The brighter ones might realise that it's a good income stream for the benefit of the club.

[greenlex]

This is so well known. The player has to be registered fir the original tie date. I’m sure it’s in my head because it’s happened at least once before. Struggling to shake off the amateur status.

[Northernhibee]

The brighter ones might realise that it's a good income stream for the benefit of the club.
The ones with common sense may realise that the main priority of a football club is football, and that European group stages for third won’t only bring in lots of prize money but will fill hospitality and the stands anyway.

[LancsHibs]

When are QP due to move into Lesser Hampden? I’m sure it’s overdue already!

[Chorley Hibee]

When are QP due to move into Lesser Hampden? I’m sure it’s overdue already!

They've made a pig's ear of that too by all accounts.

Perhaps Dempster isn't the deity she's made out to be by many.

[PatHead]

When are QP due to move into Lesser Hampden? I’m sure it’s overdue already!

Sure it's April. Was there last week and saw round the stadium. The facilities for players and staff are fantastic. A top of the range hybrid pitch as well.

The stadium is far too small for the premiership though even allowing for the area behind the goals .

[LancsHibs]

Sure it's April. Was there last week and saw round the stadium. The facilities for players and staff are fantastic. A top of the range hybrid pitch as well.

The stadium is far too small for the premiership though even allowing for the area behind the goals .

Cheers, it would seem that their plans don’t meet their ambitions. Though the facilities may be going to be state of the art they will be far too small for Premier League football. Not sure they could even be admitted into the PL with a stadium capacity under 3K??
Bit of a mess potentially, if promoted they will have to seek another groundshare and their flashy new stadium redundant before ever moving in!

[brog]

What would another club fielding an ineligible player have to do with the shambles we’ve endured this season, given we also forfeited a match in cup competition for fielding an ineligible player?,

I think the reference is that when we made our cock up versus Morton, there were a number on here who assured us this would never have happened under Dempster. It just has.

[davhibby]

Sure it's April. Was there last week and saw round the stadium. The facilities for players and staff are fantastic. A top of the range hybrid pitch as well.

The stadium is far too small for the premiership though even allowing for the area behind the goals .

Realistically it won’t be this season. They have Dundee at home on the last day which would probably be the biggest game they’ve had in a long long time. There’s no way they could play that at a 900 capacity ground.

[Onceinawhile]

Realistically it won’t be this season. They have Dundee at home on the last day which would probably be the biggest game they’ve had in a long long time. There’s no way they could play that at a 900 capacity ground.

Can you not only have one home stadium during a season?

I'm sure Inverness had this issue when they ground shared with Aberdeen.

[BigKev]

Can you not only have one home stadium during a season?

I'm sure Inverness had this issue when they ground shared with Aberdeen.

Hearts only shared Murrayfield for part of a season. Think Inverness played every team once at Pittodrie for fairness purposes.

[Oscar T Grouch]

https://news.stv.tv/sport/queens-park-kicked-out-of-scottish-cup-for-fielding-ineligible-player

[grunt]

https://news.stv.tv/sport/queens-park-kicked-out-of-scottish-cup-for-fielding-ineligible-player
What a blooming shame. Why can't the SFA themselves check eligibility of the players on the night and prevent these situations from occurring?

[HoboHarry]

The QP lawyer should have stated in defence that he was "Imperfectly registered" The corrupt SFA have precedent for letting that go unpunished.

[Billy Whizz]

It’s all Hearts fault as usual

[MWHIBBIES]

They've made a pig's ear of that too by all accounts.

Perhaps Dempster isn't the deity she's made out to be by many.

She definitely is. 114 years. It took her 2.

[Carheenlea]

I’d have stopped short of awarding Livingston the tie due their crimes against football.

[green day]

I’d have stopped short of awarding Livingston the tie due their crimes against football.

The tie was awarded to Inverness CT :wink:

[lyonhibs]

What a blooming shame. Why can't the SFA themselves check eligibility of the players on the night and prevent these situations from occurring?

Because that's not their job. QP ****ed up, simple as that

[Carheenlea]

The tie was awarded to Inverness CT :wink:

I deserve a ban :clown:

[Eyrie]

It’s all Hearts fault as usual

It's their player involved so I'd agree that the only appropriate punishment is to kick Hearts out of the competition as well.

[ACLeith]

It's their player involved so I'd agree that the only appropriate punishment is to kick Hearts out of the competition as well.

😀 can I propose you for the SFA and SPFL Boards, head of VAR, refereeing supremo, as you clearly have the best interests of Scottish football in mind