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Dashing Bob S
02-01-2023, 04:00 PM
I mean, come on. Enough really is enough.

HibsGW
02-01-2023, 04:01 PM
Please for their own good replace them before any reputation they have is in tatters. They are both nowhere near good enough for us now.

loanheadhibby
02-01-2023, 04:01 PM
Pathetic but the blame lies squarely with Marshall

Shrekko
02-01-2023, 04:02 PM
Absolutely diabolical from Marshall - horrendous.

The Modfather
02-01-2023, 04:02 PM
Why are we so frightened to give someone like Macintyre their chance?

cameronw-hfc
02-01-2023, 04:02 PM
Pathetic but the blame lies squarely with Marshall

Surely no lol. Aye he made a hash of it but for him to be in that scenario there was multiple mistakes leading up to it. If we defended properly he wouldn't have had a decision to make.

Tricla
02-01-2023, 04:03 PM
Pathetic but the blame lies squarely with Marshall

Hanlon gave up. Shocking.

Pagan Hibernia
02-01-2023, 04:09 PM
All three goals completely preventable, and hearts did little else… while we completely squandered huge chances and numerous promising situations.

that hearts team were absolutely beatable and we sh*• it

GreenNWhiteArmy
02-01-2023, 04:10 PM
Marshall, no? Felt like he could come and collect easily

Dashing Bob S
02-01-2023, 04:11 PM
All three goals completely preventable, and hearts did little else… while we completely squandered huge chances and numerous promising situations.

that hearts team were absolutely beatable and we sh*• it

We didn’t ***** it we’re just poor. Unfortunately you only have to be less than average to cost against this Hibs team.

Brightside
02-01-2023, 04:12 PM
I mean, come on. Enough really is enough.

It’s Marshall’s ball!

Leith Green
02-01-2023, 04:13 PM
Hanlon just gives up

Big_Franck
02-01-2023, 04:14 PM
Marshall, no? Felt like he could come and collect easily

Definitely. The striker eventually makes contact with the ball around the penalty spot. Marshall should absolutely be coming out for that.

darwenhibby
02-01-2023, 04:16 PM
Marshall even moves to his right
But Hanlon giving up is a disgrace

Dashing Bob S
02-01-2023, 04:16 PM
People saying it’s Marshall’s ball. Fair enough it wasn’t the best judgement on his part but there are still two defenders between the Hearts forward and the goal. Neither of whom put a challenge in.

Stuart93
02-01-2023, 04:18 PM
Pathetic but the blame lies squarely with Marshall

That’s bull ****.

Humphreys tan past hanlon and Stevenson like they weren’t there. Right through the middle of them.

They’re ****ing finished and I feel embarrassed for them that we’re still having to rely on them

Unseen work
02-01-2023, 04:19 PM
The amount of times I’ve seen a striker run past Hanlon like he’s not there.

Twice in two games it’s happened now.

Nothing brilliant from the striker, peel off and run in a straight line

A Hi-Bee
02-01-2023, 04:20 PM
Pathetic but the blame lies squarely with Marshall

Correct, he dont come out for a simple ball. Result is goal 3

norhfc
02-01-2023, 04:23 PM
Was it no Newell who lost the ball in the first place and just couldnt be arsed trying to get it back. Shambles of a goal.

EVENTUALLY
02-01-2023, 04:23 PM
Pathetic but the blame lies squarely with Marshall

Hanlon pulls up because its the goalie's ball 100%. 5' 7" Stevenson will always be brushed off the ball by a 6' 2" fresh legs bustling forward. Both defenders could have done better but Marshall misjudged the weight of the ball and was culpable.

Callum_62
02-01-2023, 04:23 PM
That’s bull ****.

Humphreys tan past hanlon and Stevenson like they weren’t there. Right through the middle of them.

They’re ****ing finished and I feel embarrassed for them that we’re still having to rely on themIt's not bull**** at all though - keepers balls easily 100 percent of the time

Shouldn't have mattered if Hanlon and Lewis lay down

I reckon Marsh had some kind of dizzy spell based on his reaction and body language

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Tricla
02-01-2023, 04:37 PM
Hanlon pulls up because its the goalie's ball 100%. 5' 7" Stevenson will always be brushed off the ball by a 6' 2" fresh legs bustling forward. Both defenders could have done better but Marshall misjudged the weight of the ball and was culpable.

He should never give up. What if the ball takes a bobble or the keeper makes a mistake? Hanlon could've won the ball had he not packed in.

Maybe Marshall didn't come out because he could see Hanlon see Hanlon had it under control.

Onceinawhile
02-01-2023, 04:51 PM
All 3 of them contributed to it. All 3 are not currently good enough and I doubt whether at least 2 of them ever will be again.

loanheadhibby
02-01-2023, 04:54 PM
Surely no lol. Aye he made a hash of it but for him to be in that scenario there was multiple mistakes leading up to it. If we defended properly he wouldn't have had a decision to make.

Agreed it could have been stopped on several occasions but if Marshall is even on his penalty spot, he just boots it away.

Hanlon & Stevenson are finished. Everyone knows it. We can’t rely on either now so Marshall should be thinking worst case scenario.

500miles
02-01-2023, 05:24 PM
Marshall fault all day long. We were playing a high line, the only thing that we would have gained from Hanlon putting a tackle in is a red card and suspension.

Marshall looked like he was back at the goal getting a water bottle?

loanheadhibby
02-01-2023, 05:27 PM
Marshall fault all day long. We were playing a high line, the only thing that we would have gained from Hanlon putting a tackle in is a red card and suspension.

Marshall looked like he was back at the goal getting a water bottle?

I thought same re Marshall. He was either chatting to crowd, drying his hands or drinking water. I’d give Schofield a run but then again, he might be as bad as Fish.

Why we never signed Clark, I have no idea.

Allant1981
02-01-2023, 05:27 PM
I thought same re Marshall. He was either chatting to crowd, drying his hands or drinking water. I’d give Schofield a run but then again, he might be as bad as Fish.

Why we never signed Clark, I have no idea.

Marshall is a better keeper than Clarke that's why

Torto7062
02-01-2023, 05:28 PM
We didn’t ***** it we’re just poor. Unfortunately you only have to be less than average to cost against this Hibs team.

Or if your on a winless run and you need a win lol

loanheadhibby
02-01-2023, 05:34 PM
Marshall is a better keeper than Clarke that's why

No he’s not. Possibly 5 years ago. Marshall was terrible at 1st and 3rd goal.

Clarke came away with a clean sheet

Allant1981
02-01-2023, 05:39 PM
No he’s not. Possibly 5 years ago. Marshall was terrible at 1st and 3rd goal.

Clarke came away with a clean sheet

We will agree to disagree on this one!

'mon the beers
02-01-2023, 05:40 PM
If only today was a one-off, twice in a week Hanlon has lost a goal from a through ball that he should have done better with. He at least knew where Humphrys was today compared to Kyogo midweek but him and Stevenson are beyond finished.

truehibernian
02-01-2023, 05:40 PM
If you’re a physical young athletic striker you’re licking yer footballing lips knowing you’re up against Paul Hanlon. He’s absolutely finished at this level and has been for a good while. As for Lewy, I’m an unashamed fan and for me I’d have put him on Devlin and got some dig in there as he’s still a stalwart player in those areas. He’s limited now at full back - like Paul, for a good while.

Sentiment no more though, both need to go.

Stevie Reid
02-01-2023, 05:45 PM
No one’s contribution was good but it was absolutely staggering to see the penalty area come into the camera shot, and not only not see Marshall there to gather/boot clear, but to see him somehow scrambling from the opposite side of the goal.

Absolutely inexplicable from him.

loanheadhibby
02-01-2023, 05:48 PM
No one’s contribution was good but it was absolutely staggering to see the penalty area come into the camera shot, and not only not see Marshall there to gather/boot clear, but to see him somehow scrambling from the opposite side of the goal.

Absolutely inexplicable from him.

Marshall’s best days are well behind him. He let us down badly today just like every other player.

He gets away with it due to his reputation and Scotland exploits. If Macey had put in that kind of performance today, he’d have been hunted out the club.

Stevie Reid
02-01-2023, 05:50 PM
Marshall’s best days are well behind him. He let us down badly today just like every other player.

He gets away with it due to his reputation and Scotland exploits. If Macey had put in that kind of performance today, he’d have been hunted out the club.

I don’t agree with that, I think he’s been good for us this season.

Can’t explain what he was doing at goal number three though.

hibee_girl
02-01-2023, 05:55 PM
Marshall’s best days are well behind him. He let us down badly today just like every other player.

He gets away with it due to his reputation and Scotland exploits. If Macey had put in that kind of performance today, he’d have been hunted out the club.

I think that's quite harsh on Marshall, he's been excellent for us this season so far.

He had a bad one today but it happens.

loanheadhibby
02-01-2023, 05:56 PM
I don’t agree with that, I think he’s been good for us this season.

Can’t explain what he was doing at goal number three though.

I remember when we had keepers like Goram/Rough and Leighton. The team might be playing crap and these guys would make save after save and Nick you a point. Marshall has never nicked us a point or produced an incredible display to make sure we draw or win a game.

I think his mind wanders during games. He’s slightly better than Macey but like the rest of our players, he’s actually bang average.

h1bs4life
02-01-2023, 05:57 PM
It’s never Hanlon or Stevenson’s fault for anything.
Another disaster to add to their lengthy list of disasters and probably another squad that they have been part of that has got a manager sacked .

Callum_62
02-01-2023, 05:58 PM
I remember when we had keepers like Goram/Rough and Leighton. The team might be playing crap and these guys would make save after save and Nick you a point. Marshall has never nicked us a point or produced an incredible display to make sure we draw or win a game.

I think his mind wanders during games. He’s slightly better than Macey but like the rest of our players, he’s actually bang average.I also seen Leighton gift the ball to Colin Cameron for another hearts goal at ER

None were faultless

Claiming Zander Clarke is better than David Marshall though is some take

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loanheadhibby
02-01-2023, 05:59 PM
I think that's quite harsh on Marshall, he's been excellent for us this season so far.

He had a bad one today but it happens.

You know the stats about our recent form. How can he have had an excellent season when he’s contributing to a team that’s losing every week?

Tell me one game when he’s saved us from a real doing? He concedes goals every week. Very rarely single handily saves us a point or earns us wins.

He’s as culpable as every other player

supermcginn
02-01-2023, 06:00 PM
It’s never Hanlon or Stevenson’s fault for anything.
Another disaster to add to their lengthy list of disasters and probably another squad that they have been part of that has got a manager sacked .

Spot on.

LaMotta
02-01-2023, 06:01 PM
I also seen Leighton gift the ball to Colin Cameron for another hearts goal at ER

None were faultless

Claiming Zander Clarke is better than David Marshall though is some take

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Goram and Leighton were class but both made absiute holwers in derbies.

Clark not a better player than Marshall but given their ages, might have been a better signing longer term.

loanheadhibby
02-01-2023, 06:01 PM
I also seen Leighton gift the ball to Colin Cameron for another hearts goal at ER

None were faultless

Claiming Zander Clarke is better than David Marshall though is some take

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I can only talk about what I’ve seen with my eyes today mate. One keeper got a clean sheet and the other conceded 3 and he was at least partly to blame for 2.

Allant1981
02-01-2023, 06:01 PM
I remember when we had keepers like Goram/Rough and Leighton. The team might be playing crap and these guys would make save after save and Nick you a point. Marshall has never nicked us a point or produced an incredible display to make sure we draw or win a game.

I think his mind wanders during games. He’s slightly better than Macey but like the rest of our players, he’s actually bang average.

Bang average and slightly better than macey🤣🤣🤣🤣

Stevie Reid
02-01-2023, 06:02 PM
I remember when we had keepers like Goram/Rough and Leighton. The team might be playing crap and these guys would make save after save and Nick you a point. Marshall has never nicked us a point or produced an incredible display to make sure we draw or win a game.

I think his mind wanders during games. He’s slightly better than Macey but like the rest of our players, he’s actually bang average.

The first derby I ever went to was at Tynie and Rough made a mad dash from his goal and cost us the winner. Leighton let in two carbon copy goals to Colin Cameron in successive derbies at ER. Even Goram let in a tame free kick from John Robertson, albeit with an injured hand.

We have many, many, many issues at the football club just now. Our goalkeeper is most certainly not one of them.

Allant1981
02-01-2023, 06:03 PM
Not a better player but given their ages, might have been a better signing longer term.

Think they have high hopes for Murray which might be the thinking of Marshall signing

Since90+2
02-01-2023, 06:03 PM
I remember when we had keepers like Goram/Rough and Leighton. The team might be playing crap and these guys would make save after save and Nick you a point. Marshall has never nicked us a point or produced an incredible display to make sure we draw or win a game.

I think his mind wanders during games. He’s slightly better than Macey but like the rest of our players, he’s actually bang average.

Marshall is the best keeper we've had in years. Miles better than Macey.

LaMotta
02-01-2023, 06:04 PM
Think they have high hopes for Murray which might be the thinking of Marshall signing

Hopefully, however right now I'd quite like a strategy of signing several tried and tested players coming into their prime (eg Clarke, Shankland, B Mackay etc)

Allant1981
02-01-2023, 06:06 PM
Hopefully, however right now I'd quite like a strategy of signing several tried and tested players coming into their prime (eg Clarke, Shankland, B Mackay etc)

Totally agree, the signing policy is all over the place just now

Callum_62
02-01-2023, 06:09 PM
I can only talk about what I’ve seen with my eyes today mate. One keeper got a clean sheet and the other conceded 3 and he was at least partly to blame for 2.Well then, case closed [emoji106]

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California-Hibs
02-01-2023, 06:09 PM
If anyone still needs convincing that Hanlon needs to be booted out this team asap then I'd encourage them to rewatch that 3rd goal.

loanheadhibby
02-01-2023, 06:11 PM
Well then, case closed [emoji106]

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Glad you’re coming round to my way of thinking.

LewysGot2
02-01-2023, 06:13 PM
Marshall is the best keeper we've had in years. Miles better than Macey.

Best keeper since Rocky, that's fair comment.

truehibernian
02-01-2023, 06:13 PM
If anyone still needs convincing that Hanlon needs to be booted out this team asap then I'd encourage them to rewatch that 3rd goal.

Or watch the 6-6 Motherwell game years ago when Yogi behind the scenes called it right 👍 can’t handle big strikers 👍 and that was well over a decade ago.

loanheadhibby
02-01-2023, 06:14 PM
Marshall is the best keeper we've had in years. Miles better than Macey.

He’s not really based on actual stats tho. He’s contributing to a team in 8th. Macey contributed to a team that finished 8th. Marciano better than them both. Bogdan as good as both Marshall & Macey.

WeeRussell
02-01-2023, 06:18 PM
Marshall is the best keeper we've had in years. Miles better than Macey.

And will probably rightly finish as our player of the season this year.

WeeRussell
02-01-2023, 06:20 PM
He’s not really based on actual stats tho. He’s contributing to a team in 8th. Macey contributed to a team that finished 8th. Marciano better than them both. Bogdan as good as both Marshall & Macey.

Are those your ‘actual stats’?

Callum_62
02-01-2023, 06:23 PM
He’s not really based on actual stats tho. He’s contributing to a team in 8th. Macey contributed to a team that finished 8th. Marciano better than them both. Bogdan as good as both Marshall & Macey.John Mcginn played alongside Kenny McLean for St Mirren and were relegated

I think you need to view things as they are - a team sport

Marshall for me had a hand in one and could have done better for the 1st - that doenst in anyway make him comparable to Zander Clarke or matt macey though

Its a kind of childish comparison

Its like saying whoever was in goals for Hearts in they games Jim Leighton (your shout as top goalie btw) gifted a couple of howler goals to them so must be better

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loanheadhibby
02-01-2023, 06:26 PM
John Mcginn played alongside Kenny McLean for St Mirren and were relegated

I think you need to view things as they are - a team sport

Marshall for me had a hand in one and could have done better for the 1st - that doenst in anyway make him comparable to Zander Clarke or matt macey though

Its a kind of childish comparison

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Comparing several goalkeepers is childish? You’ll need to explain that to me.

Keepthefaith
02-01-2023, 06:28 PM
Agree, both have had their time. Thought lewy did well against Livingston but time to give young McIntyre a chance. Paul needs dropped, return to a back 4!

Callum_62
02-01-2023, 06:35 PM
Comparing several goalkeepers is childish? You’ll need to explain that to me.Comparing them based on 1 game is

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BoomtownHibees
02-01-2023, 06:37 PM
Agree, both have had their time. Thought lewy did well against Livingston but time to give young McIntyre a chance. Paul needs dropped, return to a back 4!

We have been playing a back 4

Not In The Know
02-01-2023, 06:37 PM
People saying it’s Marshall’s ball. Fair enough it wasn’t the best judgement on his part but there are still two defenders between the Hearts forward and the goal. Neither of whom put a challenge in.

Marshall is the least of our worries.

loanheadhibby
02-01-2023, 06:40 PM
Comparing them based on 1 game is

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I think that it’s fair to compare both keepers today that played in same game? Out of interest, which keeper did you think performed better today?

loanheadhibby
02-01-2023, 06:44 PM
Marshall is the least of our worries.

i don’t think he is. His reputation is the least of our worries. Tell me a game where he’s pulled us out the mire?

I remember Macey having a blinder last season at Tynie in a scoreless draw. I can’t recollect Marshall having any form of blinder this season.

I agree he’s a step up from Macey but I’m unconvinced he’s the least of our worries.

loanheadhibby
02-01-2023, 06:46 PM
Think they have high hopes for Murray which might be the thinking of Marshall signing

Do you mean Murray Johnston

kentao
02-01-2023, 07:02 PM
i don’t think he is. His reputation is the least of our worries. Tell me a game where he’s pulled us out the mire?

I remember Macey having a blinder last season at Tynie in a scoreless draw. I can’t recollect Marshall having any form of blinder this season.

I agree he’s a step up from Macey but I’m unconvinced he’s the least of our worries.

One keeper is a international class Goalkeeper the other was lucky to get a gig at Easter Road. Macey isn't even in the same league as Marsh.

De Gea wouldn't be able to keep a clean sheet with some of the defensive performances in front of him. for example Will Fish today, Hanlon and Stevenson for the 3rd, Rocky nutmegging himself with a diving header. We don't stop crosses into the box and then the CHs fail to challenge for the ball.

A whole new back 4 is required Stevenson and Hanlon are finished, Will Fish not at the level required, Rocky doesn't look comfortable on the ball which is a worry with Porto leaving soon.

Hope the recruitment team are able to get at least 4 1st team quality players in for end of Jan.

Allant1981
02-01-2023, 07:05 PM
Do you mean Murray Johnston

Yip, friends of mine are involved with airdrie and when he was on loan there they said he was very highly rated by hibs

loanheadhibby
02-01-2023, 07:06 PM
One keeper is a international class Goalkeeper the other was lucky to get a gig at Easter Road. Macey isn't even in the same league as Marsh.

De Gea wouldn't be able to keep a clean sheet with some of the defensive performances in front of him. for example Will Fish today, Hanlon and Stevenson for the 3rd, Rocky nutmegging himself with a diving header. We don't stop crosses into the box and then the CHs fail to challenge for the ball.

A whole new back 4 is required Stevenson and Hanlon are finished, Will Fish not at the level required, Rocky doesn't look comfortable on the ball which is a worry with Porto leaving soon.

Hope the recruitment team are able to get at least 4 1st team quality players in for end of Jan.

I think you are in for a disappointment. Johnson has just said he’d take one quality signing if he can get 10 players out the door.

Guaranteed that Cadden/Hanlon/Rocky & Stevenson will be at least some part of defence in cup tie & on 1st league game after 31st January.