High press?

[Cat Stanton]

How about any kind of press? Sat off them to an embarrassing degree. Meek, feeble, dispiriting.

There are clearly deeper problems at the club that have been/are discussed ad nausea on this forum (recruitment, ownership etc) but if we have a manager that can't motivate a team to have a go at home, we've got even bigger problems.

[CL0762]

If we’d have pressed them, I can guarantee you it would’ve been worse than 4.

[Jones28]

No we didn’t stand off them. We tried to manage the game, it was neither a high press or parking the bus. It was an attempt to manage the game and be more pragmatic.

[BILLYHIBS]

Even at 4-0 up Celtic were still doing the high press on us winning the ball back within 30 seconds if we were not giving it away hunting in packs

Hope LJ was paying attention

A masterclass

[Paulie Walnuts]

No we didn’t stand off them. We tried to manage the game, it was neither a high press or parking the bus. It was an attempt to manage the game and be more pragmatic.

If that’s an attempt to manage the game then that was an absolutely tragic attempt. We never laid a glove on a team that never needed to get out of 2nd gear.

[lyonhibs]

Even at 4-0 up Celtic were still doing the high press on us winning the ball back within 30 seconds if we were not giving it away hunting in packs

Hope LJ was paying attention

A masterclass

Yup. With the exception of a few isolated examples here and there, we were absolute kittens tonight, you'd have thought we were playing Brazil 1970.

At least make them work to break through you as opposed to just letting it happen 35 yards from goal anyway. ER is our home and we let them dander in, not take their shoes off, drink our bevvy then take a ***** without flushing, all with barely a murmur of protest.

[Alfred E Newman]

For the pressing game to work you need your players fit enough to keep it going for the whole game.
Enough said.

[BILLYHIBS]

Yup. With the exception of a few isolated examples here and there, we were absolute kittens tonight, you'd have thought we were playing Brazil 1970.

At least make them work to break through you as opposed to just letting it happen 35 yards from goal anyway. ER is our home and we let them dander in, not take their shoes off, drink our bevvy then take a ***** without flushing, all with barely a murmur of protest.

First three minutes of Hibs pressure then is that it ?

Is that all you got ?

This is how it should be done

They started getting in behind us Hatate supposedly a right back had a free hand to cause mayhem roaming all over the park

Pop had them brilliantly set up fast and quick

Made you think ‘ what do our guys do in training?’

Never laid a glove on them

[Alfred E Newman]

First three minutes of Hibs pressure then is that it ?

Is that all you got ?

This is how it should be done

They started getting in behind us Hatate supposedly a right back had a free hand to cause mayhem roaming all over the park

Pop had them brilliantly set up fast and quick

Made you think ‘ what do our guys do in training?’

Never laid a glove on them
Porteous summed it up when he said how intense the Scotland training sessions were compared to East Mains.
Celtic may have better players than us but there is no excuse for them being fitter.

[LeithMike]

Celtic move as a team. We pressed as a four - Nisbet, Youan, Magennis and Campbell. Once they could outmanoeuvre those 4 they could get right at us.

Half a press is worse than no press and you end up spread out. Either press as a team or don’t bother.

Can’t say after watching that tonight that our manager is taking us in any particular direction.


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[Donegal Hibby]

Celtic move as a team. We pressed as a four - Nisbet, Youan, Magennis and Campbell. Once they could outmanoeuvre those 4 they could get right at us.

Half a press is worse than no press and you end up spread out. Either press as a team or don’t bother.

Can’t say after watching that tonight that our manager is taking us in any particular direction.


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I didn't think we were going to get anything tonight and was fearful of a hammering even though some of you said you were feeling confident and talking about 3 points, I just think they are probably the best old firm team I seen in years . About this thread " high press" this team would have sadly beat us whatever we had done and I think they could easily take 3 or 4 of Sevco next. As for us I thought there was a few positives tonight and this game was never going to define our season once again I think there's a OTT reaction to this calling certain players out and calling for the manager to be sacked again it's not the type of game to make a judgement , as for not knowing what particular direction we are going in watch the Livingston highlights to see which direction I think we are heading in . Not having a go at you LM btw 👍

[Helensburghhibs]

Our high press is still in the away dressing room at celtic park, beside our 3 up front. Its time we sent someone to pick both up

[LewysGot2]

I think question marks remain around fitness and athleticism. You need both...and it's sadly lacking.



It's 2028 and Lewis Stevenson is still the fittest and hardest working player at the club...




I'm only partially joking.

[MWHIBBIES]

For the pressing game to work you need your players fit enough to keep it going for the whole game.
Enough said.

There is much more to it that than. Our players fitness isn't a problem. Just being peddled out because we're not winning every week. We certainly weren't lacking fitness when we were scoring all those late goals, were we?

[Brightside]

Did anyone claim we are playing as a high press team? We aren’t but that’s not what makes us poor.

[hibsbollah]

Celtic move as a team. We pressed as a four - Nisbet, Youan, Magennis and Campbell. Once they could outmanoeuvre those 4 they could get right at us.

Half a press is worse than no press and you end up spread out. Either press as a team or don’t bother.


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Totally wrong. Nobody spends all game with everybody pressing all the time, not even a Bielsa side. The players you mention are doing it because they are the most advanced players, McKirdy and Henderson clearly haven’t been coached how to do it or can’t be bothered, but that’s a different problem.

[hibstag]

Totally wrong. Nobody spends all game with everybody pressing all the time, not even a Bielsa side. The players you mention are doing it because they are the most advanced players, McKirdy and Henderson clearly haven’t been coached how to do it or can’t be bothered, but that’s a different problem.

Those two came on and offered nothing, Henderson would get the runaround at championship level, my jury’s is still out on McKirdy as we’ve been poor all over the park since he arrived and he kinda fitted into that mentality. However Last night late on he just strayed offside for a through ball and seemed to given up Lewis Stevenson charged up the park to close down the loose ball, he was still standing about the half way complaining abound pass as Lewis forces the Celtic player back across the pitch where you’d expect him to be to challenge the defender….not good enough attitude wise

[The Harp Awakes]

For the pressing game to work you need your players fit enough to keep it going for the whole game.
Enough said.

So the obvious question is why are the players not fit enough? Although the gulf in quality between Celtic and Hibs can be explained by the gulf in finances, why should there be such a gulf in fitness? Must be down to coaching. Not acceptable.

[blackpoolhibs]

Totally wrong. Nobody spends all game with everybody pressing all the time, not even a Bielsa side. The players you mention are doing it because they are the most advanced players, McKirdy and Henderson clearly haven’t been coached how to do it or can’t be bothered, but that’s a different problem.


On Henderson, he is the ultimate waste of space, timid, slow, and right at the end of the game last night he did what he does all the time when breaking out with the ball, he ran straight into a player when the easy pass was on.

Chicken hearted waste of space.

[hibsbollah]

On Henderson, he is the ultimate waste of space, timid, slow, and right at the end of the game last night he did what he does all the time when breaking out with the ball, he ran straight into a player when the easy pass was on.

Chicken hearted waste of space.

He’s the worst of the lot. I assume Liams comment that ‘my brother has always been better than me’ was just him making a bad joke.

[J-C]

On Henderson, he is the ultimate waste of space, timid, slow, and right at the end of the game last night he did what he does all the time when breaking out with the ball, he ran straight into a player when the easy pass was on.

Chicken hearted waste of space.

His 2 loan spells in the championship should have been a,warning sign but the length of deal is a shocker, looks like a wee lost laddie.

[Groathillgrump]

No we didn’t stand off them. We tried to manage the game, it was neither a high press or parking the bus. It was an attempt to manage the game and be more pragmatic.

And therein lies the problem. Johnson's tactics had us caught between two stools so how can you call that game management?

When you send out a side without a clear objective you invariably end up with the kind of result we got last night.

[LeithMike]

Totally wrong. Nobody spends all game with everybody pressing all the time, not even a Bielsa side. The players you mention are doing it because they are the most advanced players, McKirdy and Henderson clearly haven’t been coached how to do it or can’t be bothered, but that’s a different problem.


Eh, I think you’ll find that if your forwards press, your midfield and defence should push out and limit the space. Hibs ended up completely compartmentalised and outnumbered in every area of the pitch. That’s not necessarily down to Celtic having better players but being far better coached.

The worst thing you can do is press in limited numbers. It was obvious from the way Campbell ran about that nobody supported him and it was just a waste of time.


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