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Donegal Hibby
13-12-2022, 02:40 PM
Why am I not surprised it had to be one of the two Hun referee's. Not just FIFA that's corrupt.. Time and time again Beaton or Walsh get put in charge of Sevco games by the SFA when they should be nowhere near these games . Hard enough going there to get a result without having one of the boys in blue refereeing. Sick of it 🤬 .
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/nick-walsh-handed-rangers-vs-25740130

SaulGoodman
13-12-2022, 02:43 PM
I reckon we could have Pat Stanton as the ref and still get humped tbh.

Donegal Hibby
13-12-2022, 02:49 PM
I reckon we could have Pat Stanton as the ref and still get humped tbh.
Maybe we would still get humped but having Pat Stanton as a referee would certainly give us a unfair advantage as does nick Walsh with rangers and not for the first time either.

Crab apple
13-12-2022, 03:51 PM
This would be a difficult enough game without having Walsh as the ref. I don't think he's very good and I think he caves to crowd pressure. The stats suggest that prior to lockdown in 2020 he had sent off 3 Hibs players in 14 matches. He's sent off Ryan twice. He's only been in charge of two of our games this year and we've lost both times. I'm not sure if there's a conflict when his day job is as PE teacher at a school that has a partnership with the Sevco training academy but supporters of the other half of the infirm certainly highlight it.

SHODAN
13-12-2022, 03:53 PM
Ugh, thanks for reminding me about Scottish football.

Donegal Hibby
13-12-2022, 04:28 PM
This would be a difficult enough game without having Walsh as the ref. I don't think he's very good and I think he caves to crowd pressure. The stats suggest that prior to lockdown in 2020 he had sent off 3 Hibs players in 14 matches. He's sent off Ryan twice. He's only been in charge of two of our games this year and we've lost both times. I'm not sure if there's a conflict when his day job is as PE teacher at a school that has a partnership with the Sevco training academy but supporters of the other half of the infirm certainly highlight it.
This is exactly were I'm coming from on this he has a association with sevco thru his work and in my opinion shouldn't be anywhere near refereeing any sevco games or games that effect sevco in anyway . I actually think its more than just him not being a good referee or caving into crowd pressure but more of a fondness of one team over the other .Feel exactly the same way about Beaton who gave a penalty to Kent in the last minute at Easter road , laughing while pointing to the spot , strange behaviour for what's meant to be a neutral referee . Anyhow I think once again this situation stinks and it's another corrupt decision by the SFA.

Bostonhibby
13-12-2022, 05:07 PM
I'm guessing Tiny Wharton wasn't available so they went for next best option?

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HoboHarry
13-12-2022, 05:30 PM
This would be a difficult enough game without having Walsh as the ref. I don't think he's very good and I think he caves to crowd pressure. The stats suggest that prior to lockdown in 2020 he had sent off 3 Hibs players in 14 matches. He's sent off Ryan twice. He's only been in charge of two of our games this year and we've lost both times. I'm not sure if there's a conflict when his day job is as PE teacher at a school that has a partnership with the Sevco training academy but supporters of the other half of the infirm certainly highlight it.

Conflict or not, the optics are terrible and should never have happened once far less repeatedly. Imagine that happening in England? Not a chance and it simply highlights how unprofessional the running of the Scottish game is.

HH81
13-12-2022, 08:02 PM
No suprise that clown has got the gig.

The guys a joke.

zitelli62
13-12-2022, 09:22 PM
I take it John Beaton is on var to even thing's out.

delbert
13-12-2022, 10:05 PM
Why am I not surprised it had to be one of the two Hun referee's. Not just FIFA that's corrupt.. Time and time again Beaton or Walsh get put in charge of Sevco games by the SFA when they should be nowhere near these games . Hard enough going there to get a result without having one of the boys in blue refereeing. Sick of it 🤬 .
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/nick-walsh-handed-rangers-vs-25740130

The only referees now officiating in the Premier League in Scotland come from three Associations, Glasgow, Renfrewshire and Lanarkshire, all the other referee Associations in Scotland have been sidelined.

JimBHibees
14-12-2022, 05:53 AM
The only referees now officiating in the Premier League in Scotland come from three Associations, Glasgow, Renfrewshire and Lanarkshire, all the other referee Associations in Scotland have been sidelined.

That seems like the fairest way to do things :rolleyes:

Corrupt to the core surprising other teams out with these areas don't say anything about it. Kevin Clancy apparently running the show.

Billy Whizz
14-12-2022, 06:32 AM
At least we’ve got VAR now, so his decisions can be overturned😀

Donegal Hibby
14-12-2022, 10:04 AM
At least we’ve got VAR now, so his decisions can be overturned😀
Aye ,VAR can be used on goals ,. Penalty decision and direct red cards . Walsh's last game at Ibrox ,he gave sevco a penalty maybe it was I've not seen it though I wouldn't be at all surprised if we picked up a lot of yellow cards and end up getting a man sent off by two yellow cards which VAR can't do anything about . Time will tell .

overdrive
14-12-2022, 10:21 AM
Conflict or not, the optics are terrible and should never have happened once far less repeatedly. Imagine that happening in England? Not a chance and it simply highlights how unprofessional the running of the Scottish game is.

Yep very strange indeed. He doesn’t just teach PE either. He’s the deputy head teacher of the school, so is probably involved in the management of the partnership.

Key West
14-12-2022, 10:46 AM
Unfortunately in order to follow Scottish football you have to accept all this nonsense, there's no alternative.
One of the easiest predictions to make, the ref will kowtow to Rangers if they get into difficulties tomorrow night.

Donegal Hibby
14-12-2022, 11:27 AM
Unfortunately in order to follow Scottish football you have to accept all this nonsense, there's no alternative.
One of the easiest predictions to make, the ref will kowtow to Rangers if they get into difficulties tomorrow night.
Football clubs in Scotland should unite and stand up to this and the fans also , the more uproar made about it the better . Corruption in our game isn't going to go away rather it will get much worse if nothing is done. I personally haven't anything against Nick Walsh other than he has a association with sevco and shouldn't be given any of there games .SFA I'd imagine have some very clever people in its organisation yet this is repeatedly happening time and time again.personally I find it soul destroying and feel for the fans that give there hard earned cash to follow there team when they are basically being shafted

Key West
14-12-2022, 11:48 AM
Football clubs in Scotland should unite and stand up to this and the fans also , the more uproar made about it the better . Corruption in our game isn't going to go away rather it will get much worse if nothing is done. I personally haven't anything against Nick Walsh other than he has a association with sevco and shouldn't be given any of there games .SFA I'd imagine have some very clever people in its organisation yet this is repeatedly happening time and time again.personally I find it soul destroying and feel for the fans that give there hard earned cash to follow there team when they are basically being shafted

Agree 100%.

Donegal Hibby
14-12-2022, 03:37 PM
Imagine if we were playing at home against sevco and had a referee associated with Hibs youth academy. Wonder what kind of reaction would we get of Sevco about it ?

JimBHibees
14-12-2022, 04:01 PM
Imagine if we were playing at home against sevco and had a referee associated with Hibs youth academy. Wonder what kind of reaction would we get of Sevco about it ?

That would have meant he was likely based in Edinburgh so wouldnt happen as anyone born in this area is genetically not capable of being good enough to meet up to the flawless standards of refs in Glasgow renfrewshire or Lanarkshire areas. Staggering

Donegal Hibby
14-12-2022, 04:19 PM
That would have meant he was likely based in Edinburgh so wouldnt happen as anyone born in this area is genetically not capable of being good enough to meet up to the flawless standards of refs in Glasgow renfrewshire or Lanarkshire areas. Staggering
Staggering and So So very sad that the Scottish game has come to this . what's even sadder it will probably get even worse than it's now 😠

HoboHarry
14-12-2022, 04:35 PM
Staggering and So So very sad that the Scottish game has come to this . what's even sadder it will probably get even worse than it's now 😠
It'll be this way for ever more - the clubs (including Hibs) won't go against whatever it is the Glasgow uglies want. Only fans stopping going to the games en-masse would boot the other clubs into action and that's not going to happen as part of a planned policy.

Carheenlea
14-12-2022, 04:46 PM
Imagine if we were playing at home against sevco and had a referee associated with Hibs youth academy. Wonder what kind of reaction would we get of Sevco about it ?

Ally McCoist would be demanding names and addresses of those who appointed him..

Donegal Hibby
14-12-2022, 06:07 PM
It'll be this way for ever more - the clubs (including Hibs) won't go against whatever it is the Glasgow uglies want. Only fans stopping going to the games en-masse would boot the other clubs into action and that's not going to happen as part of a planned policy.
Again it's very disappointing our club and others are so weak not to voice there opinion on something we know is so blatantly corrupt and underhand . Sadly for me that's grown up loving the Scottish game this has really took a lot of my pride for the game away 😟

Eyrie
14-12-2022, 06:53 PM
It's the 98th minute at Ibrox and Hibs are holding on desperately to a 0-0 draw.


"Nick, its VAR here."
"What's up?"
"Penalty Rangers for handball"
"YES!!! Which Hibs player do I book?"
"Porteous."
"But I've already sent him off!"
"OK then, Marshall."
"Fine by me."

Chorley Hibee
14-12-2022, 06:56 PM
Ally McCoist would be demanding names and addresses of those who appointed him..

Yes, many who wax lyrical about his fake, happy chappy persona, whilst commentating, should remember some of his antics in the past.

He's done well to wear his mask as well as he has.

HoboHarry
14-12-2022, 07:18 PM
Yes, many who wax lyrical about his fake, happy chappy persona, whilst commentating, should remember some of his antics in the past.

He's done well to wear his mask as well as he has.
That's where I'm at. He showed his colours in every sense when he was at Sevco, nasty nasty little man as far as I could see.

Donegal Hibby
14-12-2022, 07:23 PM
It's the 98th minute at Ibrox and Hibs are holding on desperately to a 0-0 draw.


"Nick, its VAR here."
"What's up?"
"Penalty Rangers for handball"
"YES!!! Which Hibs player do I book?"
"Porteous."
"But I've already sent him off!"
"OK then, Marshall."
"Fine by me."
See you back in the Louden tavern for a pint !

Hibs07p
15-12-2022, 03:00 PM
It's the 98th minute at Ibrox and Hibs are holding on desperately to a 0-0 draw.


"Nick, its VAR here."
"What's up?"
"Penalty Rangers for handball"
"YES!!! Which Hibs player do I book?"
"Porteous."
"But I've already sent him off!"
"OK then, Marshall."
"Fine by me."

OK Brother .. eh eh mr Beaton.

GGTTH
Scottish Cup Winners 2016

JimBHibees
15-12-2022, 03:50 PM
That's where I'm at. He showed his colours in every sense when he was at Sevco, nasty nasty little man as far as I could see.

Also sucker punching Mark Fulton at the Souness game a game him and Colin west were spitting on Hibs players

JimBHibees
15-12-2022, 03:51 PM
OK Brother .. eh eh mr Beaton.

GGTTH
Scottish Cup Winners 2016

Alan Muir on var wat chance do we have

Donegal Hibby
16-12-2022, 12:24 AM
Alan Muir on var wat chance do we have
I started this thread because I knew when I seen Nick Walsh appointed we were basically ****ed . Your post about Alan Muir on VAR too has proven you right JBH . Stone wall penalty for Hibs missed by Glasgow VAR centre and Nick Walsh , why am I not surprised again!!!

Donegal Hibby
16-12-2022, 02:58 PM
Probably the next time we play sevco the SFA will try and be clever about it by appointing Beaton as Referee and Walsh watching VAR . SFA and FIFA both cut from the same cloth ( corrupt organizations).

Donegal Hibby
21-12-2022, 07:32 PM
Really am sick of this f***** . Every time he's named in any way to our games I lose all hope , referee doesn't inspire confidence either , honestly I really don't see any point having VAR at all when you either have people as corrupt as Nick Walsh and as incompetent as Kevin Clancy , think the SFA are just taking the p*** now !!! .
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/hearts-vs-hibs-referee-named-25809401

Smartie
21-12-2022, 07:58 PM
Really am sick of this f***** . Every time he's named in any way to our games I lose all hope , referee doesn't inspire confidence either , honestly I really don't see any point having VAR at all when you either have people as corrupt as Nick Walsh and as incompetent as Kevin Clancy , think the SFA are just taking the p*** now !!! .
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/hearts-vs-hibs-referee-named-25809401

I was down at the David Lloyd gym at Newhaven the other day and saw someone whose face I recognised, thinking it was someone I knew through work.

Now you’ve mentioned Kevin Clancy I’m 99% sure it’s him.

Is he from around here?

JimBHibees
22-12-2022, 07:03 PM
I was down at the David Lloyd gym at Newhaven the other day and saw someone whose face I recognised, thinking it was someone I knew through work.

Now you’ve mentioned Kevin Clancy I’m 99% sure it’s him.

Is he from around here?

Think he is from through west but think he may live here. Certainly saw him in a suit in Morrison street a few years back and struggled not to mouth off at him :greengrin

Paulie Walnuts
22-12-2022, 07:33 PM
I was down at the David Lloyd gym at Newhaven the other day and saw someone whose face I recognised, thinking it was someone I knew through work.

Now you’ve mentioned Kevin Clancy I’m 99% sure it’s him.

Is he from around here?

Hearts welcome Hibs to Easter Road. Lol.

Yes, Kevin Clancy lives in Newhaven/Leith.

overdrive
23-12-2022, 05:16 AM
Think he is from through west but think he may live here. Certainly saw him in a suit in Morrison street a few years back and struggled not to mouth off at him :greengrin

Definitely lives through here. He used to be on my bus to work in the morning before covid and before I moved. Given where I got on, I guessed he must live in the Leith area.

Had to stop myself a couple of times from making a rude gesture to him.

JimBHibees
23-12-2022, 11:00 AM
Definitely lives through here. He used to be on my bus to work in the morning before covid and before I moved. Given where I got on, I guessed he must live in the Leith area.

Had to stop myself a couple of times from making a rude gesture to him.

Yep I had that same thought when seeing him. :greengrin

green day
07-01-2023, 12:51 PM
The only referees now officiating in the Premier League in Scotland come from three Associations, Glasgow, Renfrewshire and Lanarkshire, all the other referee Associations in Scotland have been sidelined.

A question was asked by a Hibs fan on Off The Ball today, they have a couple ex refs on and they said that this was untrue and every association in Scotland is represented.

JimBHibees
07-01-2023, 02:20 PM
A question was asked by a Hibs fan on Off The Ball today, they have a couple ex refs on and they said that this was untrue and every association in Scotland is represented.

Were they asked to explain what represented meant.?

green day
07-01-2023, 02:31 PM
Were they asked to explain what represented meant.?

I didnt hear.

But I know what you mean - you might have the odd (very odd:greengrin) one like Douglas Ross running the line, but I guess the %age from those 3 associations will be huge.

PaulSmith
09-01-2023, 11:12 AM
Copied from twitter.

41 Cat 1 refs in Scotland

16 Glas
7 Edin
3 Ayr
3 Lanark’
3 Renfrew
2 each @ A’deen, Fife and Angus
1 each @ Stirling, Perth and North Scot.

All areas represented as per @BBCSportsound on Sat.

However… Premier League referees, read on

I believe that that there are 15 Cat 1 refs who operate in the Premier League. The breakdown is:

11 Glasgow
2 Lanarkshire
1 Renfrewshire
1 Ayrshire

None from any other association.

Makes you think doesn’t it.

JimBHibees
09-01-2023, 11:15 AM
Copied from twitter.

41 Cat 1 refs in Scotland

16 Glas
7 Edin
3 Ayr
3 Lanark’
3 Renfrew
2 each @ A’deen, Fife and Angus
1 each @ Stirling, Perth and North Scot.

All areas represented as per @BBCSportsound on Sat.

However… Premier League referees, read on

I believe that that there are 15 Cat 1 refs who operate in the Premier League. The breakdown is:

11 Glasgow
2 Lanarkshire
1 Renfrewshire
1 Ayrshire

None from any other association.

Makes you think doesn’t it.

Thanks exactly what I was alluding to. Closed shop for the top games which are of course always refereed without error or controversy. Simply not fit for purpose.

green day
09-01-2023, 05:03 PM
Copied from twitter.

41 Cat 1 refs in Scotland

16 Glas
7 Edin
3 Ayr
3 Lanark’
3 Renfrew
2 each @ A’deen, Fife and Angus
1 each @ Stirling, Perth and North Scot.

All areas represented as per @BBCSportsound on Sat.

However… Premier League referees, read on

I believe that that there are 15 Cat 1 refs who operate in the Premier League. The breakdown is:

11 Glasgow
2 Lanarkshire
1 Renfrewshire
1 Ayrshire

None from any other association.

Makes you think doesn’t it.

It was OtB not Sportsound. A guy texted/called in stating that there was no representaiton from the East or North associations.

The two ex-refs on the programme immediately put this down as "nonsense" and stated that every association was represented.

Tam then asked the caller / texter if they would apologise !!

Sounds very much like the caller was pretty much right and those on the programme were hiding behind semantics.................

wookie70
09-01-2023, 05:28 PM
Copied from twitter.

41 Cat 1 refs in Scotland

16 Glas
7 Edin
3 Ayr
3 Lanark’
3 Renfrew
2 each @ A’deen, Fife and Angus
1 each @ Stirling, Perth and North Scot.

All areas represented as per @BBCSportsound on Sat.

However… Premier League referees, read on

I believe that that there are 15 Cat 1 refs who operate in the Premier League. The breakdown is:

11 Glasgow
2 Lanarkshire
1 Renfrewshire
1 Ayrshire

None from any other association.

Makes you think doesn’t it.
So 60 percent of west coast refs Cat 1 and 0% of those elsewhere. Probably a coincidence just like The Rangers never getting pens against them in domestic football. I'd love to see how many Cat 1 refs have recently removed a photo of an old woman from their wall to replace it with one with an old man, vote Tory and call the FM Nippy. It would be bad enough if it was a west coast bias but it goes further than that

delbert
11-01-2023, 08:08 AM
A question was asked by a Hibs fan on Off The Ball today, they have a couple ex refs on and they said that this was untrue and every association in Scotland is represented.

Sorry but the ex refs are lying through their teeth, the only referees in the middle come from those three Associations, Clancy moved through here from Glasgow, by represented they are conveniently bringing in Assistant Referees. To be clear, the guys in the middle in the Premier League at this time come from only those three Associations, a fact recently confirmed by Head of Referee Operations.

cameronw-hfc
11-01-2023, 08:31 AM
Sorry but the ex refs are lying through their teeth, the only referees in the middle come from those three Associations, Clancy moved through here from Glasgow, by represented they are conveniently bringing in Assistant Referees. To be clear, the guys in the middle in the Premier League at this time come from only those three Associations, a fact recently confirmed by Head of Referee Operations.


If it's the same refs with a podcast of their own, an independent body should be hired to listen to literally just one episode of it and the corruption would be there for all to see. Listened to an episode myself and genuinely could not believe it. If you thought mainstream media was Rangers biased, these idiots are even worse.

I also get on well the daughter of a pretty high profile former ref who had at least one high-profile gaffe that most would know(amazingly that barely narrows it down), and she has told me tons of times hes a die hard rangers man and even has a season ticket nowadays, or at least he did a few years ago when I was closer with her.(use to work together as lot and became friends but don't talk as much now).

zitelli62
11-01-2023, 08:57 AM
I was once at a sportsman's dinner attended by a high profile referee, he came round the tables and my mate jokingly said to him he never gives penalties against rangers to which his reply was in 20 odd years he never gave one penalty against rangers but plenty for them at which point I had to hold my mate back from hitting him.
Corrupt to the core.

MWHIBBIES
11-01-2023, 09:08 AM
I was once at a sportsman's dinner attended by a high profile referee, he came round the tables and my mate jokingly said to him he never gives penalties against rangers to which his reply was in 20 odd years he never gave one penalty against rangers but plenty for them at which point I had to hold my mate back from hitting him.
Corrupt to the core.

And that refs name is?

Come on, out the dirty cheat.

Donegal Hibby
11-01-2023, 09:35 PM
Trying to say referee's are fair and Huns don't foul in the box.
https://youtu.be/lf-1nYizr38

truehibernian
12-01-2023, 06:22 AM
I was once at a sportsman's dinner attended by a high profile referee, he came round the tables and my mate jokingly said to him he never gives penalties against rangers to which his reply was in 20 odd years he never gave one penalty against rangers but plenty for them at which point I had to hold my mate back from hitting him.
Corrupt to the core.

Bobby Tait perchance ?

hibsbollah
12-01-2023, 06:40 AM
Trying to say referee's are fair and Huns don't foul in the box.
https://youtu.be/lf-1nYizr38

It’s Richard Foster. Hun to the core, best ignore. (Hey that rhymes, found a new mantra for all situations)

zitelli62
12-01-2023, 08:36 AM
Bobby Tait perchance ?

Spot on.

JimBHibees
12-01-2023, 04:22 PM
Spot on.

Was he the referee that apparently and yes think this is a thing in the football backwater of Scotland can choose where they ref their last game and of course chose Ibrox. In the game it was 1 1 v Killie going into injury time played much more minutes hoping Rangers would score the winner unfortunately for him Killie scored on the breakaway to win. Corrupt as.