Relegation.

[Mango Man]

Anyone else getting that feeling?

No hyperbole or anything, but this team doesn't have 1 positive thing going for it, inept up front, no creativity in midfield and a defence that concedes from simple cross balls regularly, on top of that we have had a brutal injury list for over a year now and are still playing the majority of the loser squad from last season!! Recruitment is all over the place, no fight, desire or character, getting beat from every single team doesn't help either, worrying times indeed.

Hibs are bloody hard work.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I don’t think we will. I think we’ll have the threat of it looming over us for most of the season though.

[Eyrie]

No.

[Hibeesforever]

Need a good window and team will get going...Nisbet to find his scoring touch.

[Jones28]

They are hard work.

They’re not getting relegated though.

[Allant1981]

Nope not in the slightest

[Stuart93]

Think we’ll be closer to it than we should be.

Cracking chance to go for 3rd this season with hearts being in Europe until recently. Completely ****ed it.

[hibee]

No

[BoltonHibee]

66/1 to finish bottom. 8 points off the bottom, too good to pass up. We’ve not got a win in us


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[Irish_Steve]

66/1 to finish bottom. 8 points off the bottom, too good to pass up. We’ve not got a win in us


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Where did you see that - I'll stick a couple of quid on it as my bets never come in

[wookie70]

I think it is an outside bet at the moment. If we lose the next 3 or 4 games and the teams below us get within 3 points I can see this group of footballers crumbling. If they play as a team we will be fine but there is precious little evidence to say they will. Kenneh injuring Campbell today is a good example. Campbell looked like he was doing fine and then Kenneh feels the need to dive in. The lack of movement from forward players leaving their mates struggling to find a pass is also a sign that the team ethos is lacking. We shouldn't even need to consider the "r" word given the squad and resources we have so something stinks.

[SteveHFC]

Think we will be bottom six but if we lose the next 4 games, I could see us fighting to stay up.

[Broken Gnome]

I'm not sure I see all of the teams below us being good enough to pick points consistently.

That said, I'm no sure I see any evidence of us winning games. If we get the right team on the pitch sure, but that's no certainty. Won't stay up by default.

Can't be too dismissive of it for now.

[The Modfather]

I think we’ll just keep ahead of the playoff place, but only ever a game or two away from getting dragged into the mix. There’s shades of Hearts under Stendel IMO

[Since452]

No

[Sir David Gray]

Where did you see that - I'll stick a couple of quid on it as my bets never come in

66/1 is with Betway.

If you think it might happen I would snap that up now. I can't see the odds being 66/1 on the evening of 2nd January.

That being said I still don't think we'll go down but I do think we'll be comfortably in the bottom six.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Anyone else getting that feeling?

No hyperbole or anything, but this team doesn't have 1 positive thing going for it, inept up front, no creativity in midfield and a defence that concedes from simple cross balls regularly, on top of that we have had a brutal injury list for over a year now and are still playing the majority of the loser squad from last season!! Recruitment is all over the place, no fight, desire or character, getting beat from every single team doesn't help either, worrying times indeed.

Hibs are bloody hard work.

The clouds of doom are certainly gathering!😀

[eastmainsmsh]

January is crucial large squad need to move some on first

[B.H.F.C]

It’s not out of the question. We’re in a real mess.

[Broken Gnome]

66/1 is with Betway.

If you think it might happen I would snap that up now. I can't see the odds being 66/1 on the evening of 2nd January.

That being said I still don't think we'll go down but I do think we'll be comfortably in the bottom six.

I got 66 on Bet365 the day Boyle was ruled out for the season, was feeling a bit gloomy mind you.

We were 11/10 to finish bottom six, and if I had a fair wedge to hand I'd be piling on.

[SHODAN]

We're a bad window away from a relegation battle, which is odds on given the nepotism. The best signing we could make would be a new head of recruitment.

[Sir David Gray]

I got 66 on Bet365 the day Boyle was ruled out for the season, was feeling a bit gloomy mind you.

We were 11/10 to finish bottom six, and if I had a fair wedge to hand I'd be piling on.

We're 6/5 now with SkyBet to finish in the bottom six, I'd be all over that if I was a gambler.

[The Captain....]

Iits a really poor Hibs team in a very poor league. I think we'll stay up just but it will be a dismal season with another managerial change likely.

The excitement never ends.

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[thebausburst]

Assuming Hibs take very little if anything from the next 4 games, which lets be honest is a very realistic possibility, then the pressure will be massive for every game thereafter and Hibs as we know have a real soft mentality so it’s not as clear cut to rule out as some on this thread think. Don’t forget there is the dreaded play off place!

[Donegal Hibby]

Top 6 , probably 5th at the minute I'd say .

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

There's no doubt if our poor form continues after the break, it's a real possibility and with 4 tough games coming up, it certainly could.

The forwards can't score, defenders have been all over the place in recent games and the midfield is devoid of creativity. We've been beaten by the three bottom teams recently and just lost our talisman for the rest of the season, the player we all look for to creative and score chances. Add to that, the recruitment over the summer was truly awful, I have no confidence whatsoever they can find the players to get us out of this mess in the January transfer window. It's a real s** show that's for sure. :rolleyes:

[Jim44]

I think we will be in the bottom 4. We don’t have enough character to do any better. Survival is the name of the game. I would get rid of LJ now but I think he’ll get to the end of the season, and then offski.

[B.H.F.C]

We're a bad window away from a relegation battle, which is odds on given the nepotism. The best signing we could make would be a new head of recruitment.

My big concern is these first four games back.

We’ll lose to Rangers and Celtic and I think we’ll more than likely lose at Tynecastle. The Livingston game is absolutely must win in amongst those.

If they go the way most of us expect you’re sitting at 1 or 2 wins from 11 and you’re 20 games in. At that point you’re probably looking for a new manager and already in a battle IMO.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

We're 6/5 now with SkyBet to finish in the bottom six, I'd be all over that if I was a gambler.

Good price that.

[Paulie Walnuts]

My big concern is these first four games back.

We’ll lose to Rangers and Celtic and I think we’ll more than likely lose at Tynecastle. The Livingston game is absolutely must win in amongst those.

If they go the way most of us expect you’re sitting at 1 or 2 wins from 11 and you’re 20 games in. At that point you’re probably looking for a new manager and already in a battle IMO.

The Livi game absolutely is must win. The Hearts game is far enough away that anything other than a win in the Livi game will leave us in serious bother as we’re not getting anything out of the Old Firm.

If we lose to Livi I don’t think LJ will be here for the derby.

[B.H.F.C]

The Livi game absolutely is must win. The Hearts game is far enough away that anything other than a win in the Livi game will leave us in serious bother as we’re not getting anything out of the Old Firm.

If we lose to Livi I don’t think LJ will be here for the derby.

Agree with the last bit.

[Col2]

We won’t get relegated.

We do need to settle in a formation and stop giving away stupid goals.

I am looking forward to seeing Nisbet fit and McKirdy making a big impact. We need those on the fringes to step up and make a difference.

[cabbageandribs1875]

we will easily beat the winner of the play off final in the championship

easily

;)

[BoltonHibee]

Where did you see that - I'll stick a couple of quid on it as my bets never come in

Bet 365 or 20/1 to finish in bottom two


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[AL-Qaholik]

Who is currently worse than us?
We’re in it deep - and I wouldn’t back us to have the spine for the fight right now.
January is make or break.

[loanheadhibby]

We won’t get relegated.

We do need to settle in a formation and stop giving away stupid goals.

I am looking forward to seeing Nisbet fit and McKirdy making a big impact. We need those on the fringes to step up and make a difference.

Do you honestly think McKirdy will make a big impact?
Based on what?

[loanheadhibby]

we will easily beat the winner of the play off final in the championship

easily

;)

I’m hoping that’s tongue in cheek. I said the same in 2014 v Accies.

When you’re winning it becomes a habit. Losing is the same.

[Crab apple]

Losing Boyle is a huge blow. With him fit I’d have been confident of top 6. I think the next 4 games will go a long way to determining whether we’re top 6 or bottom 6 as well as possibly the future of our manager.

[Jim44]

We won’t get relegated.

We do need to settle in a formation and stop giving away stupid goals.

I am looking forward to seeing Nisbet fit and McKirdy making a big impact. We need those on the fringes to step up and make a difference.

Daft, rash statement when everything points to the opposite. I can’t see anything but a scramble to survive in the second half of the season. Unfortunately we’re too lightweight with powder puff players to put up any fight when the chips are down. The loss of Boyle was the last straw for me. Fingers crossed we do it but I’m not holding my breath.

[MWHIBBIES]

When threads like this appear the season is already over. Will just turn into a toxic mess. Any bad result will have us relegation material.

[Musselbound]

Anyone else getting that feeling?

No hyperbole or anything, but this team doesn't have 1 positive thing going for it, inept up front, no creativity in midfield and a defence that concedes from simple cross balls regularly, on top of that we have had a brutal injury list for over a year now and are still playing the majority of the loser squad from last season!! Recruitment is all over the place, no fight, desire or character, getting beat from every single team doesn't help either, worrying times indeed.

Hibs are bloody hard work.

Don't know if your comments are off the back of today's game? But I was there and am growing increasingly worried for this Hibs team. We were on top today in terms of possession etc and then concede a soft goal, followed quickly by another and then there looks like no way back. It's becoming a very familiar and predictable story. Our team and squad are full of largely average or inexperienced players or crocks. If anyone who has watched Hibs recently thinks we are too good to go down then I really don't know what they are seeing.

[B.H.F.C]

Don't know if your comments are off the back of today's game? But I was there and am growing increasingly worried for this Hibs team. We were on top today in terms of possession etc and then concede a soft goal, followed quickly by another and then there looks like no way back. It's becoming a very familiar and predictable story. Our team and squad are full of largely average or inexperienced players or crocks. If anyone who has watched Hibs recently thinks we are too good to go down then I really don't know what they are seeing.

It was only a friendly but, for some reason, what I watched really concerned me about what is to come when when we come back from the break.

None of it was particularly surprising but we are just really poor all over the park. Ever since the game at Parkhead things have just really, really regressed. Up until then we were solid, now it feels like we lose a goal any time a team go up the park against us. I find what we have in the middle of the park thoroughly depressing. And there is a real lack of quality in the final third although being a striker in this team must be hard going.

[PaulSmith]

There’s every chance we’ll be in a relegation battle. We don’t have the players, at this point, to get us out of it.

[Hibeesforever]

There’s every chance we’ll be in a relegation battle. We don’t have the players, at this point, to get us out of it.

Thats why this window is so important...

[One Day Soon]

My big concern is these first four games back.

We’ll lose to Rangers and Celtic and I think we’ll more than likely lose at Tynecastle. The Livingston game is absolutely must win in amongst those.

If they go the way most of us expect you’re sitting at 1 or 2 wins from 11 and you’re 20 games in. At that point you’re probably looking for a new manager and already in a battle IMO.


It would be entirely unsurprising if we lost all four of those. The game after that is at Motherwell...

Boyle gone, wing and a prayer that Nisbet is fit and somehow an in-form striker and that Magennis hits and maintains form. We desperately need to bring in quality in January but a) that's a notoriously difficult time to get it and b) who seriously has any trust in the people making recruitment decisions at the club?

I'd say right now it's 50/50 as to whether we'll face relegation. And for a club like Hibernian, with the money we've spent, that is an absolute disgrace.

[One Day Soon]

It was only a friendly but, for some reason, what I watched really concerned me about what is to come when when we come back from the break.

None of it was particularly surprising but we are just really poor all over the park. Ever since the game at Parkhead things have just really, really regressed. Up until then we were solid, now it feels like we lose a goal any time a team go up the park against us. I find what we have in the middle of the park thoroughly depressing. And there is a real lack of quality in the final third although being a striker in this team must be hard going.

That midfield has been like that for literally years now. Why can't the owner, the recruitment chief and the various managers see what has been so patently obvious to all the rest of us.

[Sir David Gray]

My big concern is these first four games back.

We’ll lose to Rangers and Celtic and I think we’ll more than likely lose at Tynecastle. The Livingston game is absolutely must win in amongst those.

If they go the way most of us expect you’re sitting at 1 or 2 wins from 11 and you’re 20 games in. At that point you’re probably looking for a new manager and already in a battle IMO.

I think the Livingston game is absolutely vital. Win that and we can probably think that the threat of relegation has eased quite significantly, lose, or probably even draw, that and we'll be in pretty big trouble as I can't see us getting anything v Rangers, Celtic or Hearts.

The 4 teams below us probably won't pick up many points either but considering we're only 5 points above the play off place just now even if they pick up a couple of points more than us it would put us in a very perilous position.

[He's here!]

I think the Livingston game is absolutely vital. Win that and we can probably think that the threat of relegation has eased quite significantly, lose, or probably even draw, that and we'll be in pretty big trouble as I can't see us getting anything v Rangers, Celtic or Hearts.

The 4 teams below us probably won't pick up many points either but considering we're only 5 points above the play off place just now even if they pick up a couple of points more than us it would put us in a very perilous position.

Problem is that on current evidence Livi are better than us.

In fact on current evidence I'm not sure who we're better than.

I'll be pleasantly surprised if we're not in a relegation battle. I've felt we were heading that way anyway even before the grim news about Boyle.

[CB Hibs 68]

I think the Livingston game is absolutely vital. Win that and we can probably think that the threat of relegation has eased quite significantly, lose, or probably even draw, that and we'll be in pretty big trouble as I can't see us getting anything v Rangers, Celtic or Hearts.

The 4 teams below us probably won't pick up many points either but considering we're only 5 points above the play off place just now even if they pick up a couple of points more than us it would put us in a very perilous position.Yup that just about sums it up.

[NAE NOOKIE]

The WC break came at a good time for us, or at least that's what I thought. But now that we have lost Boyle for the season the next 4 games with the possible exception of Livvi at ER look unwinnable, even two draws and a win out of the 4 looks like a long long shot as things stand.

Lose those 4 games and we will be short odds for the bottom 6 even with 13 games still to go until the split and after that who knows, this is a club not known for being able to battle it's way to survival when the chips are down. If Dundee United's rotten form continues they will be 12th, but we could well end up in the playoff spot and here's a wee irony .... we could end up facing Queens Park in that game and if there's a club on the planet capable of losing a tie like that where our near legendary ex CEO is now the driving force of the opposition, who were up until 3 years ago an amateur team, it's Hibs.

[1620]

Don't know if your comments are off the back of today's game? But I was there and am growing increasingly worried for this Hibs team. We were on top today in terms of possession etc and then concede a soft goal, followed quickly by another and then there looks like no way back. It's becoming a very familiar and predictable story. Our team and squad are full of largely average or inexperienced players or crocks. If anyone who has watched Hibs recently thinks we are too good to go down then I really don't know what they are seeing.

I was also there really wanting to see a fit again Nesbit and hoping he would nick a goal to start and rebuild his match playing confidence. He got the first 45 minutes and looked fit, had a couple of good flick ons but never got a single chance in the opposition box and that was not down to him.
The tactics in the first half seemed to be central defenders to full backs, full backs to wide men, presumably for wide men to go past the opposition full backs and get crosses into the box. It all came cropper at that point because neither of our wide men were capable of carrying out their roles. If you add to that the complete lack of creativity from midfield where absolutely no balls at all we’re slipped through into the box then Nesbit was completely starved of any kind of service to enable him to have any attempts on goal.
I know it was a friendly and the idea was to give as many players as possible some minutes on the pitch but the second 45 minutes was pretty much a shambles. There was absolutely no indication from that game today that things will improve after the WC break because the club doesn’t possess enough quality players and I remain unconvinced about LJ’s game plans. For me we will be scrambling in a relegation dog fight for the rest of the season unless the recruitment team can sign at least a couple of quality players in the January window.

[Keith_M]

Why the smiley?

[Callum_62]

I can't see us getting too many points the next 4 games but even if we are dropping points we need to start to looks competative

I'd say 6 point out if 12 would be a brilliant return

That still wouldn't see us being totally away from the bottom, just as 0/12 would not see us being relegated (it would surley add to the anxiety though [emoji23])

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[Hibees1973]

I think it is a genuine possibility.

It really depends on how the players react when they are under serious pressure. I reckon this pressure will kick in big time at the derby in the New Year. Given we have Celtic & Rangers just before the derby we could be in the bottom 3 and only a couple of points off the bottom prior to this game.

Boyle is now out and he is our main goal threat. From what I have seen we have a squad with a whole load of players at the same level, below average. Several of them have very little experience and this is a mix which does not augur well.

The last game against Ross Country was the worst I have seen from a Hibs team since Butcher.

We are on the slide and it's not going to improve in the short term with the games we have coming up.

We will be in a relegation fight. No question.

[Hibiza]

Haw ! Johnson : ( narrator of the year ) get your finger out and get some results in or just do a " mutual " .

[Mango Man]

Why the smiley?

It was a mistake, was meant to be in my post, but somehow ended up in the title, couldn't seem to take it out.

[sauzee-99]

He has lost the dressing room I reckon. If that is the case then is there a way back?

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[JoeT]

Pish, delete the thread please

[Hibiza]

That midfield has been like that for literally years now. Why can't the owner, the recruitment chief and the various managers see what has been so patently obvious to all the rest of us.
:top marks

[chippy]

:top marks

The midfield has cost the last 4 managers their jobs , as it will LJ

[Heisenberg]

That midfield has been like that for literally years now. Why can't the owner, the recruitment chief and the various managers see what has been so patently obvious to all the rest of us.

We even went about extending their contracts based on very little. Campbell got a new long term deal on the back of one game alone ffs! That area of the squad needs a big signing or two in January but I doubt it’ll happen.

So much money spent on this squad and it’s dreadful. Relegation is a real possibility given what we saw before the break.

[chippy]

:top marks

The midfield has cost the last 4 managers their jobs , as it will LJ

[Keith_M]

It was a mistake, was meant to be in my post, but somehow ended up in the title, couldn't seem to take it out.


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