The Darkness at the heart of the 2022 Conservative Party?

[grunt]

I don't know whether to believe these articles, but the question came up about the aims of the current Conservative Party and I had been reading these articles. Is there a behind the scenes movement to change the western world? I don't know, but I'll share these articles so others can either agree with their findings or - hopefully - point out why they are mistaken.

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Liz Truss’ Economic ‘Shock Doctrine’ Is Pushing the UK to the Brink

https://bylinetimes.com/2022/10/11/liz-truss-economy-markets-shock-doctrine-austerity/

The Dark Heart of Trussonomics - The Mainstreaming of Libertarian Theories of Social Darwinism and Apartheid

https://bylinetimes.com/2022/10/10/the-dark-heart-of-trussonomics-the-mainstreaming-of-libertarian-theories-of-social-darwinism-and-apartheid/


In 2013, a 237-page private thesis by Dominic Cummings, Gove’s then special advisor, was leaked. The document, which cited Murray, revealed that Cummings believed a child’s educational performance has more to do with their genetic make-up rather than educational standards. The paper also cited scientists who have been affiliated with eugenics, including Stephen Hsu and Robert Plomin. As author of Human Genetic Engineering Pete Shanks, Cummings’ analysis promoted “the blatantly eugenic association of genes with intelligence, intelligence with worth, and worth with the right to rule”. Such claims about the relationship between genes, race and cognitive ability have been repeatedly disproved. But the influence of these ideas in British conservatism appears to have persisted.

Following Boris Johnson’s victory in 2019, Cummings appointed eugenicist Andrew Sabisky to his Downing Street advisory team. It quickly emerged that Sabisky believes black people to be genetically predisposed to have lower IQs. Before taking up his role, he had publicly lamented “the white death”, which “sits on a throne of ethnic diversity” driven by globalisation and mass immigration. Downing Street refused to comment on whether Johnson disagreed with Sabisky’s views – a spokesperson said only that his views had been well-publicised already.

Indeed, as Mayor of London, Johnson had claimed that economic inequality was due to some members of “the species” having lower IQs, with economic success equating to higher cognitive ability. While the remarks were condemned by Liberal Democrat and Labour politicians, the Conservative Party remained silent.

[Kato]

I don't think they want to the world. They are just adapting to exploit and survive in a world which is changing.

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[Kato]

Alistair Campbell writes pretty well on ERG/Right Wing Tory aims and ideology. In fact he writes about the book better than the authors wrote the book itself. Which is a tiresome, and disgusting, read.

Part 1

https://alastaircampbell.org/2018/08/the-most-important-book-you-have-never-heard-of-which-helps-understand-rees-mogg-love-of-hard-brexit/

Part 2

https://alastaircampbell.org/2018/08/the-book-that-helps-you-better-understand-brexit-and-rees-mogg-part-2/

A bit on brexit.


https://alastaircampbell.org/2020/12/the-brexit-revolutionaries-have-barely-begun-britain-needs-to-wake-up-fast/

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[Jones28]

They’ve written a ****ing book on it. Describes British workers as the laziest in the world.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia_Unchained

[archie]

I wouldn't dismiss an article just because it was in Byline Times, but I have found the content variable. In this case I'm seeing a lot of 'guilt' by pretty tenuous association. I think you could write a piece like this about any politician. The counter evidence to the white supremacy view is the ethnic diversity of the Cabinet and Prime Minister. This doesn't mean that I agree with the policies. I just don't seethe as part of a wider conspiracy.

[Keith_M]

I wouldn't dismiss an article just because it was in Byline Times, but I have found the content variable. In this case I'm seeing a lot of 'guilt' by pretty tenuous association. I think you could write a piece like this about any politician. The counter evidence to the white supremacy view is the ethnic diversity of the Cabinet and Prime Minister. This doesn't mean that I agree with the policies. I just don't seethe as part of a wider conspiracy.


I think we can ignore any links to dodgy characters like this, tenuous our otherwise, as there's already enough evidence of the extremism and worrying views with the many members of the ERG group, and the connections with Britannia Unchained.

The constant stream of comments stirring up hatred towards immigrants is undeniable and is a common theme among those in charge of the party, regardless of their race or gender.

[archie]

I think we can ignore any links to dodgy characters like this, tenuous our otherwise, as there's already enough evidence of the extremism and worrying views with the many members of the ERG group, and the connections with Britannia Unchained.

The constant stream of comments stirring up hatred towards immigrants is undeniable and is a common theme among those in charge of the party, regardless of their race or gender.
The original assertion was that they supported eugenics and white supremacy. I don't think that case is made by the article. I made the point in another thread that about Mike Russell, who is a published author advocating for privatisation of the NHS and Public services. I don't think for a second that meant the government he was in supported that approach. I agree about the language against immigration, but even that is complex (with calls for increased immigration in some cases) and it clearly isn't a white supremacy position.

[grunt]

The original assertion was that they supported eugenics and white supremacy. I don't think that case is made by the article.
Did you see the section I quoted about Cummings - Johnson's personal adviser?

[archie]

Did you see the section I quoted about Cummings - Johnson's personal adviser?I did. It's one of the many reasons Johnson and Cummings were unfit to have positions of power. The fact is they don't.

[grunt]

I did. It's one of the many reasons Johnson and Cummings were unfit to have positions of power. The fact is they don't.
Nonetheless they absolutely did have power, and Johnson and Gove, supported by their Wormtongue Cummings, effected the single stupidest act by the UK electorate in forever. And now it could be argued - in fact it is argued - that Sunak is beholden to forces on the right of the party even more extreme than Johnson. So the ERG continues to be the power behind the throne and the country drifts ever towards fascism.

[archie]

Nonetheless they absolutely did have power, and Johnson and Gove, supported by their Wormtongue Cummings, effected the single stupidest act by the UK electorate in forever. And now it could be argued - in fact it is argued - that Sunak is beholden to forces on the right of the party even more extreme than Johnson. So the ERG continues to be the power behind the throne and the country drifts ever towards fascism.That last comment is just hyperbole. Fascism is thrown about far too lightly these days. Do you seriously believe the Tories would not give up power if they lost the next election? Seriously?

[Kato]

I think we can ignore any links to dodgy characters like this, tenuous our otherwise, as there's already enough evidence of the extremism and worrying views with the many members of the ERG group, and the connections with Britannia Unchained.

The constant stream of comments stirring up hatred towards immigrants is undeniable and is a common theme among those in charge of the party, regardless of their race or gender.It's their default. Trying to turn people against each other.

No conspiracy there, observe their actions.

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[grunt]

That last comment is just hyperbole. Fascism is thrown about far too lightly these days. Do you seriously believe the Tories would not give up power if they lost the next election? Seriously?We've had this discussion before. Firstly, I said we're drifting towards fascism. Secondly it is clear that the Tories are attempting to disenfranchise voters who might vote against them. Thirdly there are probably numerous other indications of our rightwards drift but it's Saturday and I'm busy. Oh, and lastly? Look at Trump - the guy that so many of our ERG / Tory MPs befriended and wish to emulate. Did he refuse to give up power when he lost the election? Oh yes, so he did.

[grunt]

I think we can ignore any links to dodgy characters like this, tenuous our otherwise, as there's already enough evidence of the extremism and worrying views with the many members of the ERG group, and the connections with Britannia Unchained.

The constant stream of comments stirring up hatred towards immigrants is undeniable and is a common theme among those in charge of the party, regardless of their race or gender.
Agreed. thank you.

[Keith_M]

Agreed. thank you.



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[Northernhibee]

Really liked 'Permission To Land' back in the day but don't like this latest fascist Tory twist from them.

[grunt]

Apologies for digging up an old thread, but I saw this today.

The Telegraph has an online tool to help its readers calculate “how much of your salary bankrolls the welfare state” - and the 4 million people too sick or disabled to work.

So as well as picking on migrants, those supporting the right wing of the Tory party are also taking aim at benefit claimants - including the sick and disabled.

I think this is disgusting.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxjNIOGWwAEhlMk?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Mibbes Aye]

Apologies for digging up an old thread, but I saw this today.

The Telegraph has an online tool to help its readers calculate “how much of your salary bankrolls the welfare state” - and the 4 million people too sick or disabled to work.

So as well as picking on migrants, those supporting the right wing of the Tory party are also taking aim at benefit claimants - including the sick and disabled.

I think this is disgusting.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxjNIOGWwAEhlMk?format=jpg&name=900x900

I usually have a look at the Telegraph to see what bile and nonsense their columnists are spouting but didn't clock this

That is repellent, even by their standards. It also highlights exactly the way the Tories will play it in the run-up to the next GE. Thinly-veiled hate, dog whistles and trying to stoke as much division as possible. It makes Michael Howard's campaign look angelic. They must be very afraid of what's coming.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

The Fleet Street Volkischer Beobachter

[Keith_M]

Apologies for digging up an old thread, but I saw this today.

The Telegraph has an online tool to help its readers calculate “how much of your salary bankrolls the welfare state” - and the 4 million people too sick or disabled to work.

So as well as picking on migrants, those supporting the right wing of the Tory party are also taking aim at benefit claimants - including the sick and disabled.

I think this is disgusting.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxjNIOGWwAEhlMk?format=jpg&name=900x900


That really is disgusting.