Artemis 1 Launch

[Pretty Boy]

Looking like this is finally going to go ahead in the early hours of the morning.

Anyone else staying up to watch? Excited to finally see such a feat of engineering get off the ground.

[Bridge hibs]

Looking like this is finally going to go ahead in the early hours of the morning.

Anyone else staying up to watch? Excited to finally see such a feat of engineering get off the ground.Where can this be viewed ?

[Gatecrasher]

Where can this be viewed ?

Nasa usually stream launches on twitch,maybe YouTube as well but not sure.

[Bridge hibs]

Nasa usually stream launches on twitch,maybe YouTube as well but not sure.Cheers mate

[Pretty Boy]

Where can this be viewed ?

Live stream in YouTube, has been ongoing since the latest rollout.

Not a huge amount happening to the naked eye right now but the live chat is full of good information.

Edit: live stream is off just now but will be back on laterr tonight.

[Bridge hibs]

Live stream in YouTube, has been ongoing since the latest rollout.

Not a huge amount happening to the naked eye right now but the live chat is full of good information.

Edit: live stream is off just now but will be back on laterr tonight.Thanks mate, if Im about I may have a swatch

[Sergio sledge]

Looking like this is finally going to go ahead in the early hours of the morning.

Anyone else staying up to watch? Excited to finally see such a feat of engineering get off the ground.

I've set my alarm for 5.45am as I think the launch is due just after 6am, I'm really excited about this. Hopefully it is a success and pushes them further towards going back to the moon.

[Pretty Boy]

That was ****ing amazing.

When you watch the old Saturn V rockets taking off during the Apollo missions they practically crawled away from the tower. That was like a shuttle launch in the way it accelerated away.

[Bridge hibs]

That was ****ing amazing.

When you watch the old Saturn V rockets taking off during the Apollo missions they practically crawled away from the tower. That was like a shuttle launch in the way it accelerated away.Watched it this morning, superb to see

[Gatecrasher]

That was ****ing amazing.

When you watch the old Saturn V rockets taking off during the Apollo missions they practically crawled away from the tower. That was like a shuttle launch in the way it accelerated away.

I couldn't watch it live but just saw it on the BBC website, as you say its a very obvious improvement.

[Stairway 2 7]

Had really seen much about these missions, enjoyed reading about them. Really surprised how quickly they are planning to have people on the moon. Hope all goes well, very exciting

[Kato]

What is the aim of this mission?

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[marinello59]

That was ****ing amazing.

When you watch the old Saturn V rockets taking off during the Apollo missions they practically crawled away from the tower. That was like a shuttle launch in the way it accelerated away.

I was awake during the night and stumbled across your post saying this was happening so went on to YouTube to watch. So glad I did. That was awe inspiring.

[Stairway 2 7]

What is the aim of this mission?

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This one to orbit the moon

Artemis 2 2024 will be the same but crewed

Artemis 3 2025 crew of 4 back on the moon

Artemis 4 2027 crew will live on the moon for some days in a station that has been landed on the moon

[Pretty Boy]

What is the aim of this mission?

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First and foremost to get humans back to the moon.

Longer term to have a space station orbiting the moon and a permanent base camp on the lunar surface to facilitate onward travel to Mars.

[JeMeSouviens]

This one to orbit the moon

Artemis 2 2024 will be the same but crewed

Artemis 3 2025 crew of 4 back on the moon

Artemis 4 2027 crew will live on the moon for some days in a station that has been landed on the moon

Long term goal is "Mars in the 2030s".

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/moon-investments-prepare-us-for-mars.pdf

[Hibby Bairn]

That would have cost a fair bit at £1.67 a litre 🙃

[Kato]

First and foremost to get humans back to the moon.

Longer term to have a space station orbiting the moon and a permanent base camp on the lunar surface to facilitate onward travel to Mars.Yeah, but what for? There is nothing out there for us that is worth punching 1000's of tons of soot per year into the ozone. Building a station on the moon would probably increase that to millions of tons adding to the greenhouse effect. So we are ******g up pur planet to get to planets that are already ******.

What is the aim of having a base on the moon or a ship going to Mars?

I get that it's exciting but I'm failing to see the point.

Man on the Moon....and then?

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[Sergio sledge]

That was ****ing amazing.

When you watch the old Saturn V rockets taking off during the Apollo missions they practically crawled away from the tower. That was like a shuttle launch in the way it accelerated away.

I'm glad I got up early for it, I had headphones on and had it on the big screen and the noise and speed of the thing was incredible.

Hopefully all the testing goes smoothly and we see a crewed mission next year.

[marinello59]

Yeah, but what for? There is nothing out there for us that is worth punching 1000's of tons of soot per year into the ozone. Building a station on the moon would probably increase that to millions of tons adding to the greenhouse effect. So we are ******g up pur planet to get to planets that are already ******.

What is the aim of having a base on the moon or a ship going to Mars?

I get that it's exciting but I'm failing to see the point.

Man on the Moon....and then?

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This could be the start of mankind’s greatest ever adventure. The first steps in to moving out to distant planets not just within our own solar system but much further beyond. This story is just beginning and we are just going to witness the first few paragraphs. It’s pretty inspirational to think just what we may be capable of though. Surely even the most cynical among us can see the benefits of looking beyond the horizon and taking an almighty step in to the unknown.

[Oscar T Grouch]

That was ****ing amazing.

When you watch the old Saturn V rockets taking off during the Apollo missions they practically crawled away from the tower. That was like a shuttle launch in the way it accelerated away.

:agree: The SLS Rocket used to launch Artemis 1 is so much more efficient than the Saturn V, surprisingly they weigh roughly the same on the launchpad (2.6mt Artemis) and (2.8mt Saturn) both use roughly the same fuels LH2 & LOx but the SLS has about 15% more thrust than the Saturn V, this will be used to carry more to the moon. This does mean Saturn V is now the 2nd most powerful rocket to ever be launched!! But I think we can all agree that the Saturn V held the record for 56 years until this morning, is still an icon of space travel and rocket technology and will never lose its place in the hearts and minds of space nerds.

[Kato]

This could be the start of mankind’s greatest ever adventure. The first steps in to moving out to distant planets not just within our own solar system but much further beyond. This story is just beginning and we are just going to witness the first few paragraphs. It’s pretty inspirational to think just what we may be capable of though. Surely even the most cynical among us can see the benefits of looking beyond the horizon and taking an almighty step in to the unknown.

Maybe. But the means of propulsion we use now won't see us onto that next big adventure if we chuck more and more gases into the air which will destroy the planet we are on now. To take the infrastructure required for a moon base to the actual moon will see millions of tons of greenhouse gases spread out on our upper atmosphere.

I don't get the wide-eyed pioneer spirit on this one I'm afraid. Space programmes seem pretty useless when people on the planet are starving and at war.

I'm neither inspired or cynical, it just seems daft given the sh*t show we have on the ground and the destruction these missions cause.

Chances of a base on Mars IMHO- zero.

I don't see the aim other than to continue space programmes which exist but provide absolutely nothing.

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[Stairway 2 7]

Maybe. But the means of propulsion we use now won't see us onto that next big adventure if we chuck more and more gases into the air which will destroy the planet we are on now. To take the infrastructure required for a moon base to the actual moon will see millions of tons of greenhouse gases spread out on our upper atmosphere.

I don't get the wide-eyed pioneer spirit on this one I'm afraid. Space programmes seem pretty useless when people on the planet are starving and at war.

I'm neither inspired or cynical, it just seems daft given the sh*t show we have on the ground and the destruction these missions cause.

Chances of a base on Mars IMHO- zero.

I don't see the aim other than to continue space programmes which exist but provide absolutely nothing.

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It doesn't create much carbon getting to space as it burns hydrogen that produces just water vapour. I think less co2 that a return trans Atlantic flight per shuttle.

They are hoping for the later flights to be carbon neutral

[Oscar T Grouch]

It doesn't create much carbon getting to space as it burns hydrogen that produces just water vapour. I think less co2 that a return trans Atlantic flight per shuttle.

They are hoping for the later flights to be carbon neutral

The SRBs on the SLS do produce some nasty chemicals, they use a combination of powdered aluminium and for oxygen they use ammonium perchlorate, which while producing the oxygen for the SRB they also produce Chlorine, ammonia and Nitrogen oxides, Chlorine and Nitrogen oxides are greenhouse gases and ammonia is a pretty nasty poison. The processes used to produce ammonium perchlorate are bad for the environment too. But as you say they are really low on CO & CO2. SRBs also deliver these gases directly into the upper layers of our atmosphere but unlike aeroplanes there aren't 100000 flights per day so it's not a huge problem.

[Kato]

It doesn't create much carbon getting to space as it burns hydrogen that produces just water vapour. I think less co2 that a return trans Atlantic flight per shuttle.

They are hoping for the later flights to be carbon neutralProducing the hydrogen fuel in itself is carbon heavy.

Manufacturing all the hardware and the rockets themselves isnt exactly neutral.

I don't get it tbh. Seems to be a blindness when considering the environmental effects as the events themselves are so spectacular.

Minimising their effects is just turning a blind eye.


This isn't Star Trek. There isn't any dilithium crystals fueling these things nicely.

Anyway as I asked earlier.

What is the aim?

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[Sergio sledge]

Producing the hydrogen fuel in itself is carbon heavy.

Manufacturing all the hardware and the rockets themselves isnt exactly neutral.

I don't get it tbh. Seems to be a blindness when considering the environmental effects as the events themselves are so spectacular.

Minimising their effects is just turning a blind eye.


This isn't Star Trek. There isn't any dilithium crystals fueling these things nicely.

Anyway as I asked earlier.

What is the aim?

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Scientific research, technological advancement and exploration has been a massive part of the development of the human race to the point we are now. A lot of these things were pushed at a greater pace than they might have been by a focus on development for another goal. Think of the development of aircraft technology leading up to and around the start of and during the 2nd world war. In a very short time span they went from having bi-planes made of wood and cloth to metal jet fighters and high altitude flying.

Whilst the money was spent on research and development with the goal of winning the war, the lasting effects of that development are everywhere to see today particularly in the massive aviation industry.

The space industry has contributed massively to technological advancements on earth, CAT scanners, water purification plant, insulation materials, wireless technology, LED's, computers and more wouldn't have advanced as fast and to the point they are today without discoveries and developments made whilst pushing the boundaries in the space industry.

Of course there are environmental concerns, but the impact of space travel (at present) is miniscule in relation to the aviation industry, personal transport and energy used in buildings. Whilst I agree that things like a manned mission to mars seems like a pipe dream at present, pushing the boundaries in space travel could lead to technological developments, or scientific discoveries which can be used to drive development and offer significant and lasting benefits to life on earth.

[Stairway 2 7]

Scientific research, technological advancement and exploration has been a massive part of the development of the human race to the point we are now. A lot of these things were pushed at a greater pace than they might have been by a focus on development for another goal. Think of the development of aircraft technology leading up to and around the start of and during the 2nd world war. In a very short time span they went from having bi-planes made of wood and cloth to metal jet fighters and high altitude flying.

Whilst the money was spent on research and development with the goal of winning the war, the lasting effects of that development are everywhere to see today particularly in the massive aviation industry.

The space industry has contributed massively to technological advancements on earth, CAT scanners, water purification plant, insulation materials, wireless technology, LED's, computers and more wouldn't have advanced as fast and to the point they are today without discoveries and developments made whilst pushing the boundaries in the space industry.

Of course there are environmental concerns, but the impact of space travel (at present) is miniscule in relation to the aviation industry, personal transport and energy used in buildings. Whilst I agree that things like a manned mission to mars seems like a pipe dream at present, pushing the boundaries in space travel could lead to technological developments, or scientific discoveries which can be used to drive development and offer significant and lasting benefits to life on earth.

Not to mention with no space exploration we'd have no satellites, hard to imagine a world without mobile phones or the Internet.

Hard to put a price on scientific research

[Hibs4185]

I was awake during the night and stumbled across your post saying this was happening so went on to YouTube to watch. So glad I did. That was awe inspiring.

Same here but I fell asleep again 5 minutes before launch

[Brummie_Hibs]

Yeah, but what for? There is nothing out there for us that is worth punching 1000's of tons of soot per year into the ozone. Building a station on the moon would probably increase that to millions of tons adding to the greenhouse effect. So we are ******g up pur planet to get to planets that are already ******.

https://sa.catapult.org.uk

[The_Exile]

Producing the hydrogen fuel in itself is carbon heavy.......

It's a mentality thing mate, ultimately, if we all had that kind of attitude we'd still be living in caves ****ing neanderthals and terrified of fire.

The Artemis program will make everyones lives better as we strive to develop new technologies to make it happen that can be applied here on Earth. There is a vast number of disciplines within all natural sciences in which knowledge and understanding to improve life is only really unlocked when we've got an exciting, ambitous goal, to achieve like this. It's not beyond the realms of credibility to say programmes like this could one day lead to a cure for cancer, or end world hunger, or bring lasting peace to normally chaotic regions of the Earth. Just because YOU don't see the point, doesn't mean it's not overwhelmingly worth doing. I'm sure I probably have some "what's the point in doing that?" biases that are actually unfounded just like everybody else.

The environmental impact you are worried about is probably less than negligble, launches happen so infrequently that it would take a 10-fold increase in launches (as well as stuff coming back that burns up in the atmosphere) to have us worrying. The science for all of this is out there, the effects of rocket launches on the atmosphere has been studied for decades now and it continues to be monitored regulary (black carbon would be a good starting point if you plan to look this up, there will be quite a few scientific journals available too which will no doubt posses related articles, although some of the full articles are behind a paywall but may give you access to the abstract/conclusions) and it can be heavy reading at times but the environmental impact argument as it stands doesn't hold water.

[Hibbyradge]

It's a mentality thing mate, ultimately, if we all had that kind of attitude we'd still be living in caves ****ing neanderthals and terrified of fire.

The Artemis program will make everyones lives better as we strive to develop new technologies to make it happen that can be applied here on Earth. There is a vast number of disciplines within all natural sciences in which knowledge and understanding to improve life is only really unlocked when we've got an exciting, ambitous goal, to achieve like this. It's not beyond the realms of credibility to say programmes like this could one day lead to a cure for cancer, or end world hunger, or bring lasting peace to normally chaotic regions of the Earth. Just because YOU don't see the point, doesn't mean it's not overwhelmingly worth doing. I'm sure I probably have some "what's the point in doing that?" biases that are actually unfounded just like everybody else.

The environmental impact you are worried about is probably less than negligble, launches happen so infrequently that it would take a 10-fold increase in launches (as well as stuff coming back that burns up in the atmosphere) to have us worrying. The science for all of this is out there, the effects of rocket launches on the atmosphere has been studied for decades now and it continues to be monitored regulary (black carbon would be a good starting point if you plan to look this up, there will be quite a few scientific journals available too which will no doubt posses related articles, although some of the full articles are behind a paywall but may give you access to the abstract/conclusions) and it can be heavy reading at times but the environmental impact argument as it stands doesn't hold water.

You had me at ****ing neanderthals!

Phwoar.

Excellent post, in seriousness.