We are only 5 points off 3rd.

[blackpoolhibs]

I keep hearing we are only so many points off 3rd, last week someone said it was 2.

It's much better saying we are 5 points clear in 3rd, but it's not the case.

I wonder which way this thread will go?:faf:

[Carheenlea]

It’s obviously a fact that can’t be ignored and offers a bit of perspective as to where we find ourselves.

The standard has been pretty poor all round in the league and Celtic excepted with regards title, nobody is running clear in Euro race or being marooned at the bottom.

The resumption of league campaign is effectively a fresh start and the target of third should still be a realistic aim. Results will influence league positions on a weekly basis for a good few weeks with extreme fluctuations until the league starts to form some kind of shape.

We’re bad, but thankfully so are most of the rest.

[ThisIsTheYear]

As bad as we have been, we are only a point behind Hearts. Still plenty football to be played

[MWHIBBIES]

What exactly is the point in this thread?

[raeburnhibs]

What exactly is the point in this thread?

to point out that despite being ****** useless recently we are still in the mix? How many are the utterly brilliant Jambos in front? Doesn't excuse the absolute ongoing ****storm though

[JohnM1875]

to point out that despite being ****** useless recently we are still in the mix? How many are the utterly brilliant Jambos in front? Doesn't excuse the absolute ongoing ****storm though

Hearts have been playing Thursday Sunday with a load of injuries and are still in front of us with a game in hand. Past wee while is really worrying from us. Any enthusiasm I had a month or so ago has gone.

[Hibernia&Alba]

The league table is very tight. Our problem is terrible form, and with four very tough games after the World Cup, we could find ourselves down amongst the dead men. This break has come at a good time for us, giving us the chance to re-group before those hard games.

[Sir David Gray]

As bad as we have been, we are only a point behind Hearts. Still plenty football to be played

Hearts have also got a game in hand at home to St Mirren and have currently played two more games than we have against Celtic and Rangers.

I'm guessing the gap might be considerably more than 1 point by the time we've played Celtic on 28th December and their game in hand's been played and we've both played the same number of times against the Old Firm.

[Bostonhibby]

This time next year Rodney, we'll be millionaires.

Sorry, couldn't help it.......

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[Vini1875]

But the teams above have one or two games in hand. Around Christmas/ New Year, teams with Euro aspirations will move forward. Teams fighting relegation will be rolling up their sleeves for the dog fight.

We are 1 behind hearts and 5 behind aberdeen when the WC starts, but they look in much better shape than us.

In December we play huns, celtc, livi and then hearts Jan 2. That could easily result in zero points.
While aberdeen play celtc and the huns at home where they have been decent and then st. mirren and killie, hearts play st. mirren, killie, dufc and st. johnstone. I can't predict how many points they will pick up in December but I bet it is more than us

15 shots on goal, 1 on target tells me to prepare for the relegation dog fight.

[Is It On....]

As poor as Hibs are, IF we had beaten the bottom 3 clubs in our last 3 games...we would be 3rd and only 4 points behind Sevco. Shows just how poor the league actually is at the moment. We really need to hope that Nisbet, Magennis and Boyle are fully fit and hit the ground running when they [hopefully] return in December.

[Joe6-2]

As poor as Hibs are, IF we had beaten the bottom 3 clubs in our last 3 games...we would be 3rd and only 4 points behind Sevco. Shows just how poor the league actually is at the moment. We really need to hope that Nisbet, Magennis and Boyle are fully fit and hit the ground running when they [hopefully] return in December.

This is how I see it, we might not be that far behind, but I’m angry at the points we’ve dropped, we could and should be in 3rd place.
A combination of poor management, sh*t defending and crap strikers are costing us dearly!

[JohnM1875]

This is how I see it, we might not be that far behind, but I’m angry at the points we’ve dropped, we could and should be in 3rd place.
A combination of poor management, sh*t defending and crap strikers are costing us dearly!

Midfield still our biggest issue. How many chances are the midfield three creating? It's always out wide then a hopeful cross into the box. Utterly predictable and easy to defend against.

[Joe6-2]

Midfield still our biggest issue. How many chances are the midfield three creating? It's always out wide then a hopeful cross into the box. Utterly predictable and easy to defend against.

yeah, definitely this too

[SHODAN]

If we'd won the games we'd be expected to win (St J and County at home), and drawn yesterday, we'd be two clear in 3rd.

[JohnM1875]

If we'd won the games we'd be expected to win (St J and County at home), and drawn yesterday, we'd be two clear in 3rd.

If we won every game we've played this season we'd be top of the league.

[HibeeHibernia]

It’s obviously a fact that can’t be ignored and offers a bit of perspective as to where we find ourselves.

The standard has been pretty poor all round in the league and Celtic excepted with regards title, nobody is running clear in Euro race or being marooned at the bottom.

The resumption of league campaign is effectively a fresh start and the target of third should still be a realistic aim. Results will influence league positions on a weekly basis for a good few weeks with extreme fluctuations until the league starts to form some kind of shape.

We’re bad, but thankfully so are most of the rest.

That's where I am on it mate we have been bad but so has everyone else the key is we have a month to sort this out and have a clear out in January and bring in some real quality but do we have the people in place to identify the quality we need? the summer proves we don't and with this current structure in place I wouldn't trust recruitment team to get any window right but we shall see what occurs in January. :flag:

[BegbieHSC]

True, but we’ve got beat off the 3 worst teams in the league in the space of 3 weeks. Pumped off a shocking Aberdeen team as well.

I wouldn’t fancy us to beat Hamilton Accies rn.

5 points seems like a mountain the way things are going.

[Lago]

What exactly is the point in this thread?
Another excuse to beat the club up, I would guess

[loanheadhibby]

As poor as Hibs are, IF we had beaten the bottom 3 clubs in our last 3 games...we would be 3rd and only 4 points behind Sevco. Shows just how poor the league actually is at the moment. We really need to hope that Nisbet, Magennis and Boyle are fully fit and hit the ground running when they [hopefully] return in December.
Magennis fully fit - you're having a laugh surely.

[JohnM1875]

Another excuse to beat the club up, I would guess

We're currently eight in the table and lost five out of our last six games. Surely no one can be overly surprised at the negativity on here just now? Most threads will likely be downbeat.

[RIP]

Midfield still our biggest issue. How many chances are the midfield three creating? It's always out wide then a hopeful cross into the box. Utterly predictable and easy to defend against.

It's poor tactics from LJ. We need to open up teams through the middle of the pitch

[JohnM1875]

It's poor tactics from LJ. We need to open up teams through the middle of the pitch

Don't think we're opening anyone up with our current midfield though. We need some creativity in there. Really hoping that can be Magennis.

[RossScott1991]

The table was the same last year. Didn’t stop us from being garbage then also. We don’t have a team capable of winning 2/3 league games in a row. So will continue to hop about positions because the rest of the league is just as average.

When really with our budget you should really be building gaps ahead of clubs like livi and killie

[HibeeHibernia]

The table was the same last year. Didn’t stop us from being garbage then also. We don’t have a team capable of winning 2/3 league games in a row. So will continue to hop about positions because the rest of the league is just as average.

When really with our budget you should really be building gaps ahead of clubs like livi and killie

Celtic a-side a don't think anyone has managed that this season mate but a know what you mean there has been little improvement between the 3 managers and that is solely down to the same personnel from last season still being used this season. We could all see we needed the midfield and defence sorted and a proven goal scorer added luckily bushiri and myko have contributed in those departments this season massively but when you have zero creativity and bite in midfield teams will nullify and run over the top of you time and time again and that is what we've seen this season bar the times we've had the extra man. :flag:

[B.H.F.C]

It's poor tactics from LJ. We need to open up teams through the middle of the pitch

With the players we have, there is nobody capable of opening up the opposition from the middle of the pitch.

[California-Hibs]

The table was the same last year. Didn’t stop us from being garbage then also. We don’t have a team capable of winning 2/3 league games in a row. So will continue to hop about positions because the rest of the league is just as average.

When really with our budget you should really be building gaps ahead of clubs like livi and killie

'We don't have a team capable of winning 2/3 league games in a row'

🤦*♂️ dearie me some of our fans have some short memories. We literally won FOUR in a row just over a month ago with this team!..

[Allant1981]

The table was the same last year. Didn’t stop us from being garbage then also. We don’t have a team capable of winning 2/3 league games in a row. So will continue to hop about positions because the rest of the league is just as average.

When really with our budget you should really be building gaps ahead of clubs like livi and killie

Apart from just winning 4 on the bounce you are correct!!

[JimBHibees]

The table was the same last year. Didn’t stop us from being garbage then also. We don’t have a team capable of winning 2/3 league games in a row. So will continue to hop about positions because the rest of the league is just as average.

When really with our budget you should really be building gaps ahead of clubs like livi and killie

We won four in a row not so long ago.

[loanheadhibby]

Apart from just winning 4 on the bounce you are correct!!

Good point. Last year at this time we were on a run of 1 win in nine under Jack Ross. 12 months ago later and we’re on a run of 1 win in 7. Not good enough for Hibs and never will or should be.

LJ has a big 4 games coming up.

[Broxburn Greens]

I’m not advocating a change in manager as I think at some point someone has to be given a chance to build a team, that said if we lose our next 4 games which is entirely possible I think LJ will be gone.

[flash]

What exactly is the point in this thread?

Trolls gonna troll.

[Musselbound]

Surprised nobody has mentioned yet that we are also only 5 points off 11th. Not only that but we look to be in freefall.

[flash]

Surprised nobody has mentioned yet that we are also only 5 points off 11th. Not only that but we look to be in freefall.

They have now.

[GreenCastle]

Surprised no one has mentioned after 16 games last season we had 1 more point than just now.

Last season 21 points after ALL teams playing 16 games sitting in 6th.

This season 20 points after 16 games with several teams above us with games in hand - sitting in 8th.

[flash]

Surprised no one has mentioned after 16 games last season we had 1 more point than just now.

Last season 21 points after ALL teams playing 16 games sitting in 6th.

This season 20 points after 16 games with several teams above us with games in hand - sitting in 8th.

They have now.

[Allant1981]

Good point. Last year at this time we were on a run of 1 win in nine under Jack Ross. 12 months ago later and we’re on a run of 1 win in 7. Not good enough for Hibs and never will or should be.

LJ has a big 4 games coming up.

Yip agree its not good enough just now but they have shown they can go on a run of games, but they have 4 hard games coming up as you say so we will see

[ozwoody]

Surprised nobody has mentioned yet that we are also only 5 points off 11th. Not only that but we look to be in freefall.

Absolutely correct. We are 2 wins from third , yet 2 losses from 11th.
Looking at the next 4 fixtures, and taking in account of the last 7 games, I think we all know where we are going to be closer to.
As everyone has said, getting youngsters in the team is good, but that had to be backed up with seasoned pros who knew how to scrap and get ugly points.
The fact a large proportion of players who have contributed to last two sackings are still around doesn't bode well

[Tambo]

Things have been poor recently no doubt and I understand why some would think it won't get better on recent viewing.

We started off the season ok then went on a little run with good football and results.

We have been unlucky away to Dundee United with no var at that point and then the shocking var offside call Saturday.

A pumping away to celtic, second half away to Aberdeen with the home games vs St Johnstone and Ross County would be seemed as unacceptable.

It's time for less talk after games and more action, a lot of work to be done in this break and we go again in December.

[Musselbound]

Absolutely correct. We are 2 wins from third , yet 2 losses from 11th.
Looking at the next 4 fixtures, and taking in account of the last 7 games, I think we all know where we are going to be closer to.
As everyone has said, getting youngsters in the team is good, but that had to be backed up with seasoned pros who knew how to scrap and get ugly points.
The fact a large proportion of players who have contributed to last two sackings are still around doesn't bode well

Indeed. My prediction would be we will be fighting for top 6. With so little between the teams there may be a fine line between that and the relegation play off. We could really do with a couple of quality and experienced signings in Jan to start moving up the league but will no doubt hear that Nisbet, McGeady, Magennis, etc are coming back to strengthen us.

[WestCoastHibby]

As bad as we have been, we are only a point behind Hearts. Still plenty football to be played

Which means they are pants too

[basehibby]

5 points off third when only a few weeks ago we were clear in third - thank F*** for the xmas WC because we have been in freefall these last few weeks. We can bump our gums about being hard done by (and we have been at times both with & without VAR) but we have shot ourselves in the foot as well between poor finishing, individual errors and at times baffling formations and tactics from the manager.

The break couldn't have come at a better time

[blackpoolhibs]

Only 8 points of 3rd now, but with 1 more game played, still doable Hibs.

[Bostonhibby]

Only 8 points of 3rd now, but with 1 more game played, still doable Hibs.Why settle for 3rd?

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[matty_f]

Only x amount of points off third is great if the direction we’re heading is closing that gap. Just now we look like we’re on a mission to widen it as quickly as possible.

[Bostonhibby]

Only x amount of points off third is great if the direction we’re heading is closing that gap. Just now we look like we’re on a mission to widen it as quickly as possible.We need a good bit of American style positivity here, with our recruitment model and squad the world is surely our lobster.

Other shellfish are available.

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[Paulie Walnuts]

Only x amount of points off third is great if the direction we’re heading is closing that gap. Just now we look like we’re on a mission to widen it as quickly as possible.

:agree:

We’re back to having another season where hearts are romping third place and the amazing European run that comes with that for the fans. It’s ****ing sickening.

[Sir David Gray]

3rd is gone now after yesterday in my opinion - I don't see anyone putting a run together that is going to challenge Hearts for that.

Quite unbelievably 4th is still achievable if we can somehow put a semi decent bit of form together. The problem is we are only 3 points away from 4th but also only 4 points away from 11th and we are the worst team in the league over the last 11 matches so it's very much a case that we need to be looking over our shoulder at Dundee Utd and Motherwell instead of trying to catch Aberdeen and St Mirren.

[Jim44]

We are only going in one direction with LJ. Aspirations for a top four finish amaze me, unless we can ditch a lot of players and bring in 2 or 3 strong established players. Sadly, I can’t see that happening in the next few weeks. Survival in the Premiership is a more realistic goal.

[Rob]

Only 8 points of 3rd now, but with 1 more game played, still doable Hibs.

Only 4 points above 11th, also with 1 more game played, and we're on a downward trajectory. Given we've picked up 6 points in our last 11 games, what makes you think we can close an 8 point gap on 3rd? Given our next 2 games are against the 2 teams immediately below us, we'd better start finding wins, otherwise we are in a serious relegation battle.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Only 4 points above 11th, also with 1 more game played, and we're on a downward trajectory. Given we've picked up 6 points in our last 11 games, what makes you think we can close an 8 point gap on 3rd? Given our next 2 games are against the 2 teams immediately below us, we'd better start finding wins, otherwise we are in a serious relegation battle.

I believe he's being sarcastic.

[flash]

I believe he's being sarcastic.

Aye it's hilarious.

[MrSmith]

for us the season is over and it is now onto damage limitation. Sick of this crap cycle!

[blackpoolhibs]

Aye it's hilarious.

What is hilarious is still seeing some posters say we are only so many points from 3rd or 4th.

Stevie Wonder can see it's never happening, again, no matter how many people try and convince themselves otherwise.

[Trinity Hibee]

What is hilarious is still seeing some posters say we are only so many points from 3rd or 4th.

Stevie Wonder can see it's never happening, again, no matter how many people try and convince themselves otherwise.

Yep. It was the same last season as we slipped out of the top 6. Only needed one win for a couple of months and it never came. We finished bottom 6

[Is It On....]

Only x amount of points off third is great if the direction we’re heading is closing that gap. Just now we look like we’re on a mission to widen it as quickly as possible.

In 2014 we were, until the very last fixture before the split, only 1 win away from the top 6...sadly we never got it.

[Sir David Gray]

Yep. It was the same last season as we slipped out of the top 6. Only needed one win for a couple of months and it never came. We finished bottom 6


In 2014 we were, until the very last fixture before the split, only 1 win away from the top 6...sadly we never got it.

Last season at this stage we were also in the top six and 6 points better off than we are now. We have more to do this season to get back into a decent position.

In 13/14 we were also in the top six at this stage and were 4 points better off than we are now. What happened in the second half of that season was quite incredible as we only picked up 8 points from our last 18 games. I'd like to think we won't be anywhere near as bad as that this season but from the perspective of looking upwards we even have more to do this year than we did 9 years ago in order to try and get into a European place.

[where'stheslope]

We are only going in one direction with LJ. Aspirations for a top four finish amaze me, unless we can ditch a lot of players and bring in 2 or 3 strong established players. Sadly, I can’t see that happening in the next few weeks. Survival in the Premiership is a more realistic goal.
Your post sounds like we are already going down?
Bringing in established players (workman like) is all about steadying the ship not gaining an advantage?
We need Premiership players who have been over the course and are ready to go at the time of signing!
I feel we have brought in players who have maybe done well in their respective leagues, but are nowhere near premiership standard.

[Ronniekirk]

I thought we might of lost all our four games after the World Cup .So win v livi was a welcome bonus .We are now in a precarious position ,and history tells us a hibs team in free fall can drop like a stone ,all the way to the bottom .
For me keeping McGeady ,Nisbet and Mcgennis injury free is crucial ,and preferably able to start playing the full game
Who we then sign ,and how quickly we can get them in ,and into first team is also key .They need to be first team ready ,and make an immediate impact .
Would also prefer the Big Ukranian forward fit ,as he had been scoring goals .
If that all happens ,would be confident of avoiding relegation and starting to go back up the league .But said a while back third or fourth was gone
But the next four games will shape our direction of travel ,and I worry we won’t have a new signing during that period ,unless we can move a few players on quickly