Bradley and Hauge

[Tambo]

Just reading the loan watch on the main site and it says there is only two games left of the Irish season.

Wonder if Bradley will be giving a chance if he impresses in training.

[SHODAN]

If he doesn't get in after the time he's had over there then we're as well selling him tbh.

We're crying out for a LW, Youan's not a winger and I'm not sure Tavares is either.

[Mcbizz1998]

Just reading the loan watch on the main site and it says there is only two games left of the Irish season.

Wonder if Bradley will be giving a chance if he impresses in training.

Got high hopes for the lad so hoping we might see him on the second half of the season.

[chippy]

Got high hopes for the lad so hoping we might see him on the second half of the season.

He deserves a go. He’s a powerful lad too, so hope t9 see him after World cup

[J-C]

If he doesn't get in after the time he's had over there then we're as well selling him tbh.

We're crying out for a LW, Youan's not a winger and I'm not sure Tavares is either.
Pretty sure he's a left footed right winger, cuts in on his left, still a different option.

[Fergus52]

If he doesn't get in after the time he's had over there then we're as well selling him tbh.

We're crying out for a LW, Youan's not a winger and I'm not sure Tavares is either.

Youans definitely a winger/inside forward in my eyes.

Really don't think he's a number 9 or central striker anyway.

Spent most of his career in Switzerland playing on the left of a diamond, but looks like they converted him to a striker towards the end.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Would imagine Bradley won’t be here much longer.

[Ringothedog]

Would imagine Bradley won’t be here much longer.

Why? and what makes you think that?

[Jones28]

Pretty sure he's a left footed right winger, cuts in on his left, still a different option.

Like Riordan?! ❤️❤️

[Hibee Mac]

Bradley impressed me in the short appearances he had for us, looked a better player than Campbell at the time, and the other youth prospects around the team at the time can't remember exactly who.

Definitely deserves a chance, was surprised he went on loan in the first place.

[Hibee Mac]

Pretty sure he's a left footed right winger, cuts in on his left, still a different option.I think he is yes, don't know where he's been playing for Dundalk though.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Why? and what makes you think that?

He’ll be approaching 21 by the time he’s back and able to play for us. He started off well at Dundalk but I’m sure the reports were that he’s really faded since. If he was going to come back here at his age and offer something I’d have expected him to be lighting that league up and look levels above it. He’s not that young in football terms anymore that he can really afford to be coming back here to play development football, he needs to be playing.

He’ll be coming back to compete with players with a much higher pedigree than what he has to offer (Boyle, Youan, McKirdy and Tavares I’d imagine will all be ahead of him) so I don’t see him getting any real game time. I’d suspect he’ll either be back out on loan or allowed to find another club.

[Donegal Hibby]

Here's some stuff on Bradley awhile back .
https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/dundalks-award-winning-star-steven-26441742.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/national-league/bradley-stars-as-dundalk-earn-first-victory-of-o-donnell-s-reign-1.4814680.

https://www.the42.ie/steven-bradley-goal-dundalk-beat-finn-harps-5824145-Jul2022/.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/paul-doyle-tips-steven-bradley-26325327

[Unseen work]

Couple of the first team players really rate Bradley.

Always looked very comfortable on the ball when I’ve seen him and capable of gaining a yard on his left foot to get a shot away.

Like others have said though his best position is on the right and cutting onto his left.

Hope he can adapt to the left wing position but with already having Youan, McGeady, McKirdy and Tavares he might be struggling. No one has nailed it down though so hopefully if given a chance he takes it

[chippy]

He’s a good player. Who’s to say he couldn’t play more central midfield. Many players do that successfully

[hibee-boys]

Can’t be any worse than Tavares, he’s been extremely disappointing.

[Brooster]

Can’t be any worse than Tavares, he’s been extremely disappointing.

And to think we are lucky enough to have him on a 5 year deal. The mind boggles.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Couple of the first team players really rate Bradley.

Always looked very comfortable on the ball when I’ve seen him and capable of gaining a yard on his left foot to get a shot away.

Like others have said though his best position is on the right and cutting onto his left.

Hope he can adapt to the left wing position but with already having Youan, McGeady, McKirdy and Tavares he might be struggling. No one has nailed it down though so hopefully if given a chance he takes it

If he’s going to struggle to get ahead of that quartet we’d be as well letting him leave permanently to be honest. Two of whom have been awful, one I doubt we’ll ever see being fit enough to perform regularly, whilst the other is Youan who has at least showed some occasional flashes of ability.

[MWHIBBIES]

And to think we are lucky enough to have him on a 5 year deal. The mind boggles.

To think he's been written off already. That's the mind boggling part.

[cameronw-hfc]

Bradley has done very well over there. He got injured and missed a bit, but he's been an integral part when fit. Hauge has struggled a bit, he's not a certain starter and had a few of their fans tell me he's been hopeless on twitter which is worrying.

[Brooster]

To think he's been written off already. That's the mind boggling part.

Are you for real or are you looking for an argument as per usual? This guy will never make it in the Scottish game.

[blackpoolhibs]

Are you for real or are you looking for an argument as per usual? This guy will never make it in the Scottish game.

I've not seen a lot of either player, but i have seen Bradley go past a player, whereas Tavarez appears so far to be a winger who cant go past a player with skill or pace.

On limited viewing, i'd rather we swapped the players on loan.

[easty]

I've not seen a lot of either player, but i have seen Bradley go past a player, whereas Tavarez appears so far to be a winger who cant go past a player with skill or pace.

On limited viewing, i'd rather we swapped the players on loan.

Agreed.

I’d also swap Tavares for Drey Wright if it was an option.

[HH81]

Tavares seems to be a player suited to slower build up play of leagues abroad.

The fast paced Scottish game won't suit him IMO. This has shown so far. You still have to give 6 to 9 months to settle in country though. Muller knew he wasn't cut out and this feels the same.

[Brightside]

I've not seen a lot of either player, but i have seen Bradley go past a player, whereas Tavarez appears so far to be a winger who cant go past a player with skill or pace.

On limited viewing, i'd rather we swapped the players on loan.

This makes sense. Send taveres somewhere he will play and hopefully a big change in development. Right now he is nowhere near ready.

[BILLYHIBS]

Are you for real or are you looking for an argument as per usual? This guy will never make it in the Scottish game.

:agree:

Fitba folk ken

Youan anaw

[Hibernian Verse]

To be fair, a lot of people thought Rocky Bushiri couldn't make it in the Scottish game and fast forward 6 months a lot of people would have him starting every week such is the improvement he has made.

[Bridge hibs]

Bradley has done very well over there. He got injured and missed a bit, but he's been an integral part when fit. Hauge has struggled a bit, he's not a certain starter and had a few of their fans tell me he's been hopeless on twitter which is worrying.To be fair, Im hopeless on Twitter too 🫣

[Tyler Durden]

Agreed.

I’d also swap Tavares for Drey Wright if it was an option.

Interested as to what this is based on? A poor 45 minutes at Livingston?

The fact that he's not started since tells a story but are we really writing the boy off after a couple of starts, 3 months in?

[JimBHibees]

Genuinely never seen enough of Tavares to make any sort of judgement though he did well in the penalty incident last week

[Tambo]

Off the top of my head I remember Bradley looking really excitng away to Hamilton a few seasons back, all though he had a brief appearance.

Also looked good vs Arsenal and also hit the post.

[Hibee Ryan]

Are you for real or are you looking for an argument as per usual? This guy will never make it in the Scottish game.

He's a young lad who's came to another country, learning a new language, at a level he has never played at. Give him longer than 3 months before you decide he will never be good enough? He might never make it but give him a chance to get used to the physicality of the league, he clearly has talent or he wouldn't have been at Benfica and been scouted by us.

Look at Josh Vela who said he was homesick when he came here and he only moved from Bolton ffs and he's played over 200 games in the Championship and league one.

[Unseen work]

I want Tavares to get more of a chance.

Limited viewing but what I’ve seen he at least creates a chance/half chance.

His best thing for me is his movement. Two or three times against st Johnstone in the first game he created a chance with his movement.

1st - Cabraja lofted ball over the top, he chopped inside and hit a shot over the bar when he should have squared it.
2nd - Cabraja pass over the top and he squared it to Youan at the edge of the box
3rd - another Cabraja ball over the top and he was through on goal but wrongfully got flagged offside.

He’s been a bit unlucky a couple of times cutting in but then losing his footing of shot getting blocked, happened a couple of times against Livi.

Even St Johnstone the other night he created a couple of moments in limited time.

He needs to adjust to the league and get stronger but from the games I’ve saw there’s something there. I think half the issue is he has a very unique/different style of running, dribbling and just how he looks when he’s on the ball.

The bit of skill he made 2 seconds into his competitive debut flicking it over the boys head was also brilliant.

Not saying he’s sensation, far from it. But when you compared the half chances he’s created in the minutes played to some of the other attackers he’s maybe worth a chance.

[MWHIBBIES]

Are you for real or are you looking for an argument as per usual? This guy will never make it in the Scottish game.

No, not looking for an argument at all. Just think it's ridiculous you've written a young player off after 2 starts.

[JimBHibees]

He's a young lad who's came to another country, learning a new language, at a level he has never played at. Give him longer than 3 months before you decide he will never be good enough? He might never make it but give him a chance to get used to the physicality of the league, he clearly has talent or he wouldn't have been at Benfica and been scouted by us.

Look at Josh Vela who said he was homesick when he came here and he only moved from Bolton ffs and he's played over 200 games in the Championship and league one.

Totally agree

[Chorley Hibee]

Tavares seems to be a player suited to slower build up play of leagues abroad.

The fast paced Scottish game won't suit him IMO. This has shown so far. You still have to give 6 to 9 months to settle in country though. Muller knew he wasn't cut out and this feels the same.

The boy Duk at Aberdeen came from the same Benfica B side as Tavares and, currently, he looks miles ahead of Tavares in almost every attribute.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong, and that he progresses over time, but a five year contract for him, currently, looks like madness.

[easty]

Interested as to what this is based on? A poor 45 minutes at Livingston?

The fact that he's not started since tells a story but are we really writing the boy off after a couple of starts, 3 months in?

He’s been poor every time we’ve played him. He’s had plenty more football than 45 mins at Livi.

I’m not saying there’s absolutely no way he’ll get better, he’s young, he’s plenty time to improve. He’ll have to get drastically better though, cos he’s nowhere near good enough just now.

He almost beat the offside trap against St Johnstone the other night. That’s his highlight so far.

[basehibby]

Are you for real or are you looking for an argument as per usual? This guy will never make it in the Scottish game.

Bizzare attitude based on fresh air thinking. There is no way anyone can draw that conclusion from the game time Tavares has had so far. Not unless they're just going out of their way to have a swipe at the club for the sake of it.

[MrRobot]

Tavares has only played around 190 minutes of football and we are already writing him off :confused:

[Brooster]

Bizzare attitude based on fresh air thinking. There is no way anyone can draw that conclusion from the game time Tavares has had so far. Not unless they're just going out of their way to have a swipe at the club for the sake of it.

Do you think signing him on a 5 year deal is good business and do you think he is a good player? It's not fresh air thinking, I've seen every minute he's played for the first team and Development team and in my opinion he is poor. I could say that for a number of other signings too. We are signing players without anyone having watched them beforehand, a policy which is costing us.

[Greenio]

People get written off on a per game basis. Campbell was a 'waste of a shirt' 'no where near our level ' etc etc less than 3 months ago...

I'd you have a bad game you are instantly pap. It's the way football works

[superfurryhibby]

Do you think signing him on a 5 year deal is good business and do you think he is a good player? It's not fresh air thinking, I've seen every minute he's played for the first team and Development team and in my opinion he is poor. I could say that for a number of other signings too. We are signing players without anyone having watched them beforehand, a policy which is costing us.

Considering the signings we have made, it feels like a poor return on the gamble of loading up on younger players so far.

Hauge- looked out of his depth, unlikely to ever play for the first team again.
Melkersen-little impact.
Tavares-so far, he’s been awful
Bojang-see above
Henderson - pretty gash overall. Hoped for much more from him.
Mcclelland-wasn’t close to being ready for the first team.
Myko- has been a good acquisition
Kennah-has had some impact-will hopefully improve with experience
Miller- has looked poor, not close to first team level
Delferriere-no impact
Tait-no impact
McAllister-not yet a regular starter for the under18’s. I question why/ if we spent money on him.
Rocky-mixed performance. I would love him to improve, but fear he lacks enough ability to use the ball effectively. He has contributed though.
Johnson-no impact

If Bradley can’t force his way into the squad at this stage of his career then I would question his future at Hibs. He’s still young, but you would expect him to be involved.

[Stairway 2 7]

Considering the signings we have made, it feels like a poor return on the gamble of loading up on younger players so far.

Hauge- looked out of his depth, unlikely to ever play for the first team again.
Melkersen-little impact.
Tavares-so far, he’s been awful
Bojang-see above
Henderson - pretty gash overall. Hoped for much more from him.
Mcclelland-wasn’t close to being ready for the first team.
Myko- has been a good acquisition
Kennah-has had some impact-will hopefully improve with experience
Miller- has looked poor, not close to first team level
Delferriere-no impact
Tait-no impact
Mc
McAllister-not yet a regular starter for the under18’s. I question why/ if we spent money on him.
Rocky-mixed performance. I would love him to improve, but fear he lacks enough ability to use the ball effectively. He has contributed though.
Johnson-no impact

If Bradley can’t force his way into the squad at this stage of his career then I would question his future at Hibs. He’s still young, but you would expect him to be involved.

Rocky has been great this season seeing he's only 22. Mcallister is 16 ha and he's already played well for the 19s and scored
At 19 I think everyone that knows anything can tell we'll have a job keeping him as he develops
Kukharevych doing well
Mccleland only 20 which is young for a centre half, playing in the championship should help
Melkerson people forget is only 19 a year old than O'connor and 3 years younger than Campbell. He is loads of time to do it and looks capable

Even just them making it would be a tremendous return for a Premiership team taking a chance on youngsters. We'll still see with the rest. But hibs have to take a risk when signing players, every team is going for the same pool of players and even English league 1 teams can outbid us

[superfurryhibby]

Rocky has been great this season seeing he's only 22. Mcallister is 16 ha and he's already played well for the 19s and scored
At 19 I think everyone that knows anything can tell we'll have a job keeping him as he develops
Kukharevych doing well
Mccleland only 20 which is young for a centre half, playing in the championship should help
Melkerson people forget is only 19 a year old than O'connor and 3 years younger than Campbell. He is loads of time to do it and looks capable

Even just them making it would be a tremendous return for a Premiership team taking a chance on youngsters. We'll still see with the rest. But hibs have to take a risk when signing players, every team is going for the same pool of players and even English league 1 teams can outbid us

I agree that we need to look at different ways of recruiting players. However, that doesn’t stop us appraising where they are at right now though. All sensible provisos apply.

So far, as this calendar year, we haven’t had much of a return from the 14 players I named.

I would suggest only Myko ( a loanee), Rocky and Kenneh have had an impact. Regardless of potential. I would have hoped for more, irrespective of whether some will develop further.

The first team are still short on quality in some key areas, yet not far away from being the best of the rest. That adds context to the discussion.

[Hibernian Verse]

I agree that we need to look at different ways of recruiting players. However, that doesn’t stop us appraising where they are at right now though. All sensible provisos apply.

So far, as this calendar year, we haven’t had much of a return from the 14 players I named.

I would suggest only Myko ( a loanee), Rocky and Kenneh have had an impact. Regardless of potential. I would have hoped for more, irrespective of whether some will develop further.

The first team are still short on quality in some key areas, yet not far away from being the best of the rest. That adds context to the discussion.

I'd argue that we had to fill the development squad as it was just starting up properly. Now we should be able to loan development players out and add quality ones in transfer windows rather than having to go wholesale again.

[Golden Bear]

I'd argue that we had to fill the development squad as it was just starting up properly. Now we should be able to loan development players out and add quality ones in transfer windows rather than having to go wholesale again.

Or hopefully promote some of the Development squad players into the first team pool thus adding more quality but at less cost.

[Brooster]

Rocky has been great this season seeing he's only 22. Mcallister is 16 ha and he's already played well for the 19s and scored
At 19 I think everyone that knows anything can tell we'll have a job keeping him as he develops
Kukharevych doing well
Mccleland only 20 which is young for a centre half, playing in the championship should help
Melkerson people forget is only 19 a year old than O'connor and 3 years younger than Campbell. He is loads of time to do it and looks capable

Even just them making it would be a tremendous return for a Premiership team taking a chance on youngsters. We'll still see with the rest. But hibs have to take a risk when signing players, every team is going for the same pool of players and even English league 1 teams can outbid us

I don't think Rocky has been great at all, better than last season but that's a low bar.

McAllister hasn't played for the 19s, he has however played for the 18s without making any sort of impact.

I think there's boys in the Development squad who are way better than the players we brought in over the summer. They are holding the young lads back.

[Stairway 2 7]

I don't think Rocky has been great at all, better than last season but that's a low bar.

McAllister hasn't played for the 19s, he has however played for the 18s without making any sort of impact.

I think there's boys in the Development squad who are way better than the players we brought in over the summer. They are holding the young lads back.

I disagree. If we didn't know who Rocky was and signed a 22 year old defender(who our manager has said needs hundreds of hours of development but has huge potential) I'd be pleasantly surprised.

Mcallister is 16 and just moved here . He played well last week and scored. Your absolutely looney tunes if you're disappointed in his development

I believe the team who see our lads know better than us who deserves a place in the team or bench. We wouldn't not pick a homegrown youngster over an import for the sake of it. The path is still clear for any in the development squad to come in

[Brooster]

I disagree. If we didn't know who Rocky was and signed a 22 year old defender(who our manager has said needs hundreds of hours of development but has huge potential) I'd be pleasantly surprised.

Mcallister is 16 and just moved here . He played well last week and scored. Your absolutely looney tunes if you're disappointed in his development

I believe the team who see our lads know better than us who deserves a place in the team or bench. We wouldn't not pick a homegrown youngster over an import for the sake of it. The path is still clear for any in the development squad to come in

You are obviously easy pleased. Let's agree to differ.

[Stairway 2 7]

You are obviously easy pleased. Let's agree to differ.

Just realistic. We need to take a chance. The best youngsters in Europe are snapped up by bigger teams young, including ours. Older players who are decent we will get outbid by league 1 and championship teams, hearts too if they want to due to the millions their fans put in. 26 year olds that have been playing great for years we need to sign players with an asterisk. We have our problems and poor signings and too many managers doesn't help

Things were rosey a few weeks ago when we won 4 in a row, now doom

[CyberSauzee]

I would hope LJ gives Bradley a chance in training/bounce games. You would think playing week in week out will have made him a better player.

[PaulSmith]

I don't think Rocky has been great at all, better than last season but that's a low bar.

McAllister hasn't played for the 19s, he has however played for the 18s without making any sort of impact.

I think there's boys in the Development squad who are way better than the players we brought in over the summer. They are holding the young lads back.

That last quote is spot on.

[Ringothedog]

That last quote is spot on.

Out of interest who in our development squad should be in the first team squad and who would replace who?

[Donegal Hibby]

Dundalk back in Europe . 2-1 victory over Bohemians .Both our players played in it with Hauge scoring a goal .
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/9643363/dundalk-return-europe-win-over-bohemians/

[Brooster]

Out of interest who in our development squad should be in the first team squad and who would replace who?

Let's begin with Bojang hindering Laidlaw's progress.

[Winston Ingram]

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/steven-bradley/leistungsdaten/spieler/661805

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/runar-hauge/leistungsdaten/spieler/494180

[Stairway 2 7]

Let's begin with Bojang hindering Laidlaw's progress.

You honestly believe if the management team thought that Laidlaw was more deserving of a place on the bench, they wouldn't pick him because Scottish. Tinfoil hat stuff. All the coaches at all levels have meetings and the pick the squad with who they think will do best or is ready

[Stairway 2 7]

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/steven-bradley/leistungsdaten/spieler/661805

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/runar-hauge/leistungsdaten/spieler/494180

51 appearances at 20 for Bradley is impressive. The football experts wrote off Campbell at 22. For example when Riordan was Melkersons age he had played 7 games for hibs and scored no goals and was about to be sent to Cowdenbeath, probably some stand scouts saying that's no good enough

[Brooster]

You honestly believe if the management team thought that Laidlaw was more deserving of a place on the bench, they wouldn't pick him because Scottish. Tinfoil hat stuff. All the coaches at all levels have meetings and the pick the squad with who they think will do best or is ready

What I'm getting at is that Laidlaw is a better player than Laidlaw but because Bojang is a summer signing he get to go ahead in the pecking order. It's clear to anyone who watches both players regularly that Laidlaw is the better of the 2. Do you watch them both regularly?

[Stairway 2 7]

What I'm getting at is that Laidlaw is a better player than Laidlaw but because Bojang is a summer signing he get to go ahead in the pecking order. It's clear to anyone who watches both players regularly that Laidlaw is the better of the 2. Do you watch them both regularly?

Saw every minute of Bojang and first seen ethan at 15. Ethan is a massive massive talent but he's slight at just 17. Hibs no what they have got and will manage him accordingly, some 19s development and subs appearances. He's an important player and his use will be guided by all the staff. We don't want the shocking situation of cochrain at hearts when they ruined the boy playing him at 16.

I'd doubt Bojang will make it but he has the physicality and pace to be brought on now. The idea that one player hinders another is completely wrong.

[easty]

Saw every minute of Bojang and first seen ethan at 15. Ethan is a massive massive talent but he's slight at just 17. Hibs no what they have got and will manage him accordingly, some 19s development and subs appearances. He's an important player and his use will be guided by all the staff. We don't want the shocking situation of cochrain at hearts when they ruined the boy playing him at 16.

I'd doubt Bojang will make it but he has the physicality and pace to be brought on now. The idea that one player hinders another is completely wrong.

Moans about the “football experts” and “stand scouts”…then half an hour later says Bojang won’t make it. Good one.👍

[Brooster]

Saw every minute of Bojang and first seen ethan at 15. Ethan is a massive massive talent but he's slight at just 17. Hibs no what they have got and will manage him accordingly, some 19s development and subs appearances. He's an important player and his use will be guided by all the staff. We don't want the shocking situation of cochrain at hearts when they ruined the boy playing him at 16.

I'd doubt Bojang will make it but he has the physicality and pace to be brought on now. The idea that one player hinders another is completely wrong.

That's fair enough, I know I'm harsh but I'd really like to see some of this talented group of 19s edging in to the first team squad. I think some are more deserving than older players who are already in and maybe their involvement in Europe is having an impact.

[Stairway 2 7]

Moans about the “football experts” and “stand scouts”…then half an hour later says Bojang won’t make it. Good one.👍

Said I doubt. I have no clue like the rest of us who don't see him train every day. The last person I'd want to pick the squad is me or anyone on here. Bojang might make it he has a chance like the rest. I'll leave it to the coaching team. They don't have agendas they pick who they think is best for the team, is what I'm trying to say

[MWHIBBIES]

That's fair enough, I know I'm harsh but I'd really like to see some of this talented group of 19s edging in to the first team squad. I think some are more deserving than older players who are already in and maybe their involvement in Europe is having an impact.

Can I ask why you write off the young foreign players we sign, like Bojang and Tavares almost immediately, but want to see the young homegrown ones get serious minutes when the management deems them not ready?

[Stairway 2 7]

That's fair enough, I know I'm harsh but I'd really like to see some of this talented group of 19s edging in to the first team squad. I think some are more deserving than older players who are already in and maybe their involvement in Europe is having an impact.

Europe will definitely have an impact, massive stage and experience for them. I'm more excited about this young group than I probably ever have been, even Fletcher or Porteous league winners. They need to be looked after but potentially 5 or 6 first team players from about 16/18yo.

I think what changed is we needed to fill a development squad, so likes of Delferriere Bojang might not have came in other years we just needed bodies to play.

[Brooster]

Can I ask why you write off the young foreign players we sign, like Bojang and Tavares almost immediately, but want to see the young homegrown ones get serious minutes when the management deems them not ready?

I've seen enough of Bojang and Tavares in the first team and development team to reckon they are not good enough. It's nothing to do with them being foreign. If we keep signing players of that quality we will be mediocre at best. Do you think they are good players?

[Allant1981]

I've seen enough of Bojang and Tavares in the first team and development team to reckon they are not good enough. It's nothing to do with them being foreign. If we keep signing players of that quality we will be mediocre at best. Do you think they are good players?

No way can anyone see enough of someone in 44 minutes of 1st team football to decide if they are good enough or not

[Brooster]

No way can anyone see enough of someone in 44 minutes of 1st team football to decide if they are good enough or not

I'll ask you then, do you think they are good players?

[Allant1981]

I'll ask you then, do you think they are good players?

Hard to tell,tavares clearly has something about him, I don't think he is good enough yet for 1st team football, bojang I have no idea about, he had that 1 on 1 miss which wasn't great but he has had no where near enough game time yet for me to decide, think he has only played a couple of reserve games which won't help(might be wrong on the numbers)

[MWHIBBIES]

I've seen enough of Bojang and Tavares in the first team and development team to reckon they are not good enough. It's nothing to do with them being foreign. If we keep signing players of that quality we will be mediocre at best. Do you think they are good players?

You've not seen enough of them. No one has.

Would you like Laidlaw to be deemed hopeless after 44 minutes of football?

I don't know if they are good players. They are extremely young and need time.

[Donegal Hibby]

Both players are in different situations at our club . Tavares is signed on a long term contract, has played 37 times for Benfica B team and under 16, 17, 18, 19, for Portugal .I think he is seen as one for the future that the club staff will work to improve . Bojang is one we have taken over to look at , probably low cost and we haven't much to lose by doing so . I can't tell any of you they are going to be good or bad ? .The simple reason for this is I haven't seen enough of them to pass judgement, What I will say is they are two young players that have moved away from home , family's and country to a totally different way of life and patience is needed with both . I also don't think any of these two are blocking our academy youngsters in anyway at all ,if they are good enough they will get there chance imo.

[Sergio sledge]

That's fair enough, I know I'm harsh but I'd really like to see some of this talented group of 19s edging in to the first team squad. I think some are more deserving than older players who are already in and maybe their involvement in Europe is having an impact.

I suspect the European games are seen as better for their development than a few minutes here and there as subs with the first team. I'd hope once Europe is over we might start seeing more of them making squads.

I don't think bojang is hindering any ones development though, he's not been near the squad for weeks.

From the little bits and pieces I've seen of Laidlaw and O'connor, they don't look physically ready for regular first team football. Whether we think Youan or Melkersen are better or not they both seem more physically capable of coping with the premiership at the minute.

[Stairway 2 7]

Rocky, kennah, myko, Henderson all done a big job in putting us back 3rd, Melkerson involved too. That's a tremendous return for 5 young signings in a game

[A Hi-Bee]

Rocky, kennah, myko, Henderson all done a big job in putting us back 3rd, Melkerson involved too. That's a tremendous return for 5 young signings in a game

I though Kennah, played very well and allowed Newell and Henderson to play.
:thumbsup:

[Unseen work]

Hauge looking really sharp in the highlights

https://twitter.com/glimtcomps/status/1586445544226164736?s=46&t=sE-87X8LKA_oWvX3K31RvQ

[offshorehibby]

Is it just me or does Hauge look like he's bulked up a good bit since he arrived here.

[SquashedFrogg]

To think he's been written off already. That's the mind boggling part.

This.

[SquashedFrogg]

Both players are in different situations at our club . Tavares is signed on a long term contract, has played 37 times for Benfica B team and under 16, 17, 18, 19, for Portugal .I think he is seen as one for the future that the club staff will work to improve . Bojang is one we have taken over to look at , probably low cost and we haven't much to lose by doing so . I can't tell any of you they are going to be good or bad ? .The simple reason for this is I haven't seen enough of them to pass judgement, What I will say is they are two young players that have moved away from home , family's and country to a totally different way of life and patience is needed with both . I also don't think any of these two are blocking our academy youngsters in anyway at all ,if they are good enough they will get there chance imo.

Agree with this.

[Jdawg]

Both players are in different situations at our club . Tavares is signed on a long term contract, has played 37 times for Benfica B team and under 16, 17, 18, 19, for Portugal .I think he is seen as one for the future that the club staff will work to improve . Bojang is one we have taken over to look at , probably low cost and we haven't much to lose by doing so . I can't tell any of you they are going to be good or bad ? .The simple reason for this is I haven't seen enough of them to pass judgement, What I will say is they are two young players that have moved away from home , family's and country to a totally different way of life and patience is needed with both . I also don't think any of these two are blocking our academy youngsters in anyway at all ,if they are good enough they will get there chance imo.

Fantastic post! Fans want instant success and throw players in the bin after a few bad minutes. Benfica B to our league is a total culture change. Would like to see him getting minutes when we are 2-3 up like yesterday. Definitely one for next season.