Team vs St Mirren

[Tambo]

So after 3 defeats in a row we go again Saturday vs a team who have started well and have already beat us 1-0 this season.

They have played a lot of games at home this season and despite the early 0-3 win away they have lost the other 3.

It looked like we had a steady team but there has been a little chopping and changing recently.

Marshall

Cadden
Porteous
Hanlon
Lewis

Kenneh
Newell
Campbell

Boyle
Myko
Mitchell

Assuming magennis is suspended for this one?

Not many options in midfield so I think that's the 3 I would go for.

Didn't see Fridays game with being at work and seen a few saying Cabraja was poor and with the two goals and some saying Rocky was MOTM then could be a case of Rocky in for Ryan.

Coming up for this one so please Hibs goals and glory.

[loanheadhibby]

There’s no way can Campbell keep a place in the team after Friday nights performance. And there will be a few others looking over their shoulders as well.

[Tambo]

There’s no way can Campbell keep a place in the team after Friday nights performance. And there will be a few others looking over their shoulders as well.

Who would you play instead?

[green day]

So after 3 defeats in a row we go again Saturday vs a team who have started well and have already beat us 1-0 this season.

They have played a lot of games at home this season and despite the early 0-3 win away they have lost the other 3.

It looked like we had a steady team but there has been a little chopping and changing recently.

Marshall

Cadden
Porteous
Hanlon
Lewis

Kenneh
Newell
Campbell

Boyle
Myko
Mitchell

Assuming magennis is suspended for this one?

Not many options in midfield so I think that's the 3 I would go for.

Didn't see Fridays game with being at work and seen a few saying Cabraja was poor and with the two goals and some saying Rocky was MOTM then could be a case of Rocky in for Ryan.

Coming up for this one so please Hibs goals and glory.

Quite like that team. Deffo back to the 4 at the back for me.

[J-C]

There’s no way can Campbell keep a place in the team after Friday nights performance. And there will be a few others looking over their shoulders as well.

Have you seen our squad depth? Henderson was brutal a couple of games ago and JDH is injured. Brought in too many attackers and we're still short of a quality midfielder.

[500miles]

There’s no way can Campbell keep a place in the team after Friday nights performance. And there will be a few others looking over their shoulders as well.

We were dominant until the sending off and Campbell just about recovered us a point with his lovely ball through to Tavares at the end. You're seeing what you want to see.

[Libby Hibby]

Marsh

Cadden
Porto
Hanlon
Cabby

Kenneh
Newell

Boyle
McKirdy
Myko
Youan

And effing go for it

[B.H.F.C]

We were dominant until the sending off and Campbell just about recovered us a point with his lovely ball through to Tavares at the end. You're seeing what you want to see.

We were dominant for 70 minutes but the way we crumbled after the sending off will give Johnson plenty to think about. Porteous rightly getting a bit stick but I don’t think there was a single player who reacted to the red in a positive manner.

[McGruber]

There’s no way can Campbell keep a place in the team after Friday nights performance. And there will be a few others looking over their shoulders as well.

Agree Campbell had poor moments in the game Friday. Seemed to slow the game and dither. He had good moments aswell but couldn't complain if he finds a place on the bench after that. He's had a very good season though and much more effective under Johnson.

[Mcbizz1998]

If we can get a win it would be massive. Good chance of going back 3rd with Aberdeen playing the Huns.

Lose and it’s a real worry.

[loanheadhibby]

We were dominant until the sending off and Campbell just about recovered us a point with his lovely ball through to Tavares at the end. You're seeing what you want to see.

Perhaps but Josh isn't good enough in my opinion.

[loanheadhibby]

Have you seen our squad depth? Henderson was brutal a couple of games ago and JDH is injured. Brought in too many attackers and we're still short of a quality midfielder.

I agree we need more midfielders however suspect we’ll have to shift a few squad members out.

Why not try a midfield 4 of Boyle, Kenneh, Newell and Youhan with McKirdy/big Dave upfront?

That would allow Kenneh/Newell to sit and let the other 4 attack.

Or perhaps Boyle, Kenneh, Newell and Cabraja with Stevenson at left back?

There’s lots of options available.

[loanheadhibby]

Or when Magennis available-

Cadden, Magennis, Newell, Kenneh with Boyle & big Dave upfront.

[J-C]

I agree we need more midfielders however suspect we’ll have to shift a few squad members out.

Why not try a midfield 4 of Boyle, Kenneh, Newell and Youhan with McKirdy/big Dave upfront?

That would allow Kenneh/Newell to sit and let the other 4 attack.

Or perhaps Boyle, Kenneh, Newell and Cabraja with Stevenson at left back?

There’s lots of options available.


Or when Magennis available-

Cadden, Magennis, Newell, Kenneh with Boyle & big Dave upfront.

Shoehorning players in to get a shape in not great, nearly everyone on here said we still needed 1, maybe 2 quality midfielders, we didn't get them, Magennis being fit helps but we need depth in the squad, hence why sending Tait out on loan seemed strange at the time.

[loanheadhibby]

Shoehorning players in to get a shape in not great, nearly everyone on here said we still needed 1, maybe 2 quality midfielders, we didn't get them, Magennis being fit helps but we need depth in the squad, hence why sending Tait out on loan seemed strange at the time.

Totally agree re Tait. The laddie should have stayed and been given a fair crack at it. It seems that LJ fancies Henderson over Tait tho.

Magennis being fit is the biggie for us. Kenneh, Magennis & Newell will possibly be the midfield of choice.

I actually thought Magennis was doing well on Friday before his rush of blood that cost us big time.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

I’d think about dropping Boyle for Youan.

[SHODAN]

Marshall

Cadden Bushiri Porteous Hanlon Cabraja

Campbell Kenneh Newell

Boyle Kuharevich



We were fine until the sending off. Would keep the same and reinstate Kenneh for Magennis.

[Alfred E Newman]

I’d think about dropping Boyle for Youan.

:faf::faf::faf:

[loanheadhibby]

I’d think about dropping Boyle for Youan.

I don’t think Boyle could have too many complaints but there’s no way he’ll be dropped. I always hoped Boyle, Youhan and big Dave would be a good combination.

[theonlywayisup]

Perhaps but Josh isn't good enough in my opinion.

I know, you've told us many times. It's getting a bit repetitive!

He's clearly not at the level we want, but so far this season he's done a reasonable job and there isn't much alternative.

[ManchesterGreen]

Is McGennis suspended at the weekend???

[JimBHibees]

Is McGennis suspended at the weekend???

Yes

[HendoDelivered]

Marsh

Cadds
Porto
Hanlon
Cabraja

Newell
Kenneh
Campbell

Boyle
Myko
Youan

[Hibee Mac]

Marsh

Cadds
Porto
Hanlon
Cabraja

Newell
Kenneh
Campbell

Boyle
Myko
YouanThat's the team for me with the players at our disposal.

Back 4 is a must and picks itself. Kenneh had a shocker Vs Celtic but definitely allows Newell and Campbell to play more, they look much better with Kenneh in there. Kuharehavic is our only real striker and looks good, Boyle can't be dropped so the only maybe is Youan. I'd like to see Mitchell play wide left but don't think he's ready for a start.

I've been a bit alarmed at how far off McKirdy looks. He seems a bit away from the standard required in this league which is worrying from the recruitment front. Usually I'd say it's a toss up between him and Youan for the wide left position but not based on his showing so far.

[Smartie]

I’d drop Boyle and put Mitchell on the right, with Youan to come back in on the left.

Midfield is a problem, but we’ve played our best stuff with Campbell, Newell and Kenneh in there so I’d probably go with that. I wouldn’t be against playing Lewis in midfield again though.

Rocky drops out. Unlucky, as he’s been good, but I think the back 4 is better than the alternatives and it’s hard to make a stronger case for either Hanlon or Porteous to miss out.

We’ve spent an awful lot of money to be short on options. Most of the players we’ve brought in look a couple of years away from being ready to contribute meaningfully.

[MWHIBBIES]

I’d drop Boyle and put Mitchell on the right, with Youan to come back in on the left.

Midfield is a problem, but we’ve played our best stuff with Campbell, Newell and Kenneh in there so I’d probably go with that. I wouldn’t be against playing Lewis in midfield again though.

Rocky drops out. Unlucky, as he’s been good, but I think the back 4 is better than the alternatives and it’s hard to make a stronger case for either Hanlon or Porteous to miss out.

We’ve spent an awful lot of money to be short on options. Most of the players we’ve brought in look a couple of years away from being ready to contribute meaningfully.

You'd drop Boyle and play a guy out of position for the first time in 6 months? Interesting

[Smartie]

You'd drop Boyle and play a guy out of position for the first time in 6 months? Interesting

Boyle’s not interested right now. He’s an empty jersey up to the World Cup if he plays.

Johnson suggested over the summer that he saw Mitchell as an option as an attacking player cutting onto his left foot. I didn’t really see it myself, but the total lack of credible options means it might be worth a punt.

The other 10 in my team would be fairly safe choices, so I think you’re allowed one gamble.

[MWHIBBIES]

Boyle’s not interested right now. He’s an empty jersey up to the World Cup if he plays.

Johnson suggested over the summer that he saw Mitchell as an option as an attacking player cutting onto his left foot. I didn’t really see it myself, but the total lack of credible options means it might be worth a punt.

The other 10 in my team would be fairly safe choices, so I think you’re allowed one gamble.
Ah right. Sorry. Hadn't realised you'd spoken to him.

Not possible he's just had a bad performance or two? Has to be him not trying? Ridiculous imo. Dreadful thing to say about Martin.

Boyle was ALWAYS inconsistent for us. Always. Absolutely nothing to do with not trying.

[Smartie]

Ah right. Sorry. Hadn't realised you'd spoken to him.

Not possible he's just had a bad performance or two? Has to be him not trying? Ridiculous imo. Dreadful thing to say about Martin.

Boyle was ALWAYS inconsistent for us. Always. Absolutely nothing to do with not trying.

It's possible he's has a few bad games.

But he seems to be the undroppable one of a front three that isn't working for us right now. Based on the last few games he has as much right to be sitting out as anyone.

You're probably right calling me out for this tbh, and the criticism is a bit harsh - and not in keeping with the character of a player who has served us very well.

I'd probably disagree with the consistency part though - he's been generally consistent for us for a long time, with the odd poor performance thrown in. His name isn't one who springs to mind when thinking about inconsistent or streaky players.

[BoomtownHibees]

It's possible he's has a few bad games.

But he seems to be the undroppable one of a front three that isn't working for us right now. Based on the last few games he has as much right to be sitting out as anyone.

You're probably right calling me out for this tbh, and the criticism is a bit harsh - and not in keeping with the character of a player who has served us very well.

I'd probably disagree with the consistency part though - he's been generally consistent for us for a long time, with the odd poor performance thrown in. His name isn't one who springs to mind when thinking about inconsistent or streaky players.

He’s probably “undroppable” because, despite not being at his best, he remains our biggest threat going forward. As poor as he was the other night he still created 3 or 4 good chances and would have had a couple himself with better passing from our midfield

[B.H.F.C]

Boyle’s not interested right now. He’s an empty jersey up to the World Cup if he plays.

Johnson suggested over the summer that he saw Mitchell as an option as an attacking player cutting onto his left foot. I didn’t really see it myself, but the total lack of credible options means it might be worth a punt.

The other 10 in my team would be fairly safe choices, so I think you’re allowed one gamble.

I don’t get the idea that Boyle isn’t interested. Lazy criticism because the World Cup is coming up IMO. Without being anywhere near his best he should have walked away with a couple of assists the other night. He probably should have scored with his chance in the second half but he still showed the desire to get in there (and got clattered in doing so). That’s not a player that isn’t interested.

Boyle is the safest choice in the team because even not at his best, he’s still the most likely to do something.

[JimBHibees]

I don’t get the idea that Boyle isn’t interested. Lazy criticism because the World Cup is coming up IMO. Without being anywhere near his best he should have walked away with a couple of assists the other night. He probably should have scored with his chance in the second half but he still showed the desire to get in there (and got clattered in doing so). That’s not a player that isn’t interested.

Boyle is the safest choice in the team because even not at his best, he’s still the most likely to do something.

Totally agree our best player basically

[GreenCastle]

I don’t get the idea that Boyle isn’t interested. Lazy criticism because the World Cup is coming up IMO. Without being anywhere near his best he should have walked away with a couple of assists the other night. He probably should have scored with his chance in the second half but he still showed the desire to get in there (and got clattered in doing so). That’s not a player that isn’t interested.

Boyle is the safest choice in the team because even not at his best, he’s still the most likely to do something.

Exactly - one of the 1st names on the team sheet - he’s done more in a short space of time then some others.

Of course he will have World Cup at back of his mind but he still looks interested.

St Mirren play 3-5-2

So will we match up again or go back to 4-3-3 and drop a centre back ?

[Eyrie]

Exactly - one of the 1st names on the team sheet - he’s done more in a short space of time then some others.

Of course he will have World Cup at back of his mind but he still looks interested.

St Mirren play 3-5-2

So will we match up again or go back to 4-3-3 and drop a centre back ?

We're at home and will have most of the possession so it should be 4-3-3 to double up on their wing backs.

[flash]

Boyle’s not interested right now. He’s an empty jersey up to the World Cup if he plays.

Johnson suggested over the summer that he saw Mitchell as an option as an attacking player cutting onto his left foot. I didn’t really see it myself, but the total lack of credible options means it might be worth a punt.

The other 10 in my team would be fairly safe choices, so I think you’re allowed one gamble.

That first sentence is outrageous.

[WhileTheChief..]

There’s no way can Campbell keep a place in the team after Friday nights performance. And there will be a few others looking over their shoulders as well.

I thought Campbell was decent on Friday, never crossed my mind that he might be dropped.

[superfurryhibby]

I don’t get the idea that Boyle isn’t interested. Lazy criticism because the World Cup is coming up IMO. Without being anywhere near his best he should have walked away with a couple of assists the other night. He probably should have scored with his chance in the second half but he still showed the desire to get in there (and got clattered in doing so). That’s not a player that isn’t interested.

Boyle is the safest choice in the team because even not at his best, he’s still the most likely to do something.

I agree with everything you say.

Boyle isn't superman and perhaps people need to lower some of their expectations. He's heavily marked and heavily targeted by opposition players. It's just a pity that we still have a team where decisive creativity is lacking.

[Tambo]

Or when Magennis available-

Cadden, Magennis, Newell, Kenneh with Boyle & big Dave upfront.

So you want kenneh on the left of the midfield?

Or is it magennis or newell playing as a AM?

[Brightside]

I thought Campbell was decent on Friday, never crossed my mind that he might be dropped.

Yep he’s been more than decent for the last few games. I would assume we will go back to our more recent 433 team with Kyle being out.

[Broken Gnome]

I thought Campbell was decent on Friday, never crossed my mind that he might be dropped.

Don't think he had a bad game for much of Friday night, but there's definite moments when he seems to lose the head - whether it's the wrong option, brainless passes, a bad touch, poor closing down...

It's a negative view to take and no doubt he's more than deserved his place in the team this season, but most weeks there's a nagging doubt he's got the all-round game to be part of top 3-6 team.

There's a screenshot on Twitter of one attack in the 8th minute he had the most obvious of through balls on to Boyle, and for some reason turned to Cadden to play keep ball instead.

[Hibees1973]

Don't really get some posters frothing over Bushiri on Friday. He didn't do much wrong. However, I think the back 3 hinders us going forward, particularly at home.

Think Hanlon and Porteous should be the defensive pairing against the likes of St Mirren at home. Cabraja I thought was really weak on Friday defensively and his crossing was abysmal when in forward positions. He needs to sharpen up or he could be on the verge of being dropped. Magennis left us in the sh*t on Friday. I thought he was decent for the first hour. This means a change in midfield.

Would go with:

Marshall

Cadden
Porteous
Hanlon
Cabraja

Kenneh

Newell
Campbell
Mitchell

Boyle
Kucharevych

Just give the likes of Jair, Henderson, McKirdy and Youan the day off and let them put their feet up. In fact, just get Ron's son to run them back home to where they came from. Would prefer the likes of Laidlaw and O'Connor from the youth team on the bench.

[Donegal Hibby]

Good on Hibs.
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/hibs-support-show-racism-the-red-cards-weekend-of-action

[Dmas]

Don't really get some posters frothing over Bushiri on Friday. He didn't do much wrong. However, I think the back 3 hinders us going forward, particularly at home.

Think Hanlon and Porteous should be the defensive pairing against the likes of St Mirren at home. Cabraja I thought was really weak on Friday defensively and his crossing was abysmal when in forward positions. He needs to sharpen up or he could be on the verge of being dropped. Magennis left us in the sh*t on Friday. I thought he was decent for the first hour. This means a change in midfield.

Would go with:

Marshall

Cadden
Porteous
Hanlon
Cabraja

Kenneh

Newell
Campbell
Mitchell

Boyle
Kucharevych

Just give the likes of Jair, Henderson, McKirdy and Youan the day off and let them put their feet up. In fact, just get Ron's son to run them back home to where they came from. Would prefer the likes of Laidlaw and O'Connor from the youth team on the bench.

Why is 3 cbs & 2wbs more defensive than 4 defenders and a dm at home? Isn’t it the same amount of ‘defensive’ players?

[Donegal Hibby]

[QUOTE=Hibees1973;7139464]Don't really get some posters frothing over Bushiri on Friday. He didn't do much wrong. However, I think the back 3 hinders us going forward, particularly at home.

Think Hanlon and Porteous should be the defensive pairing against the likes of St Mirren at home. Cabraja I thought was really weak on Friday defensively and his crossing was abysmal when in forward positions. He needs to sharpen up or he could be on the verge of being dropped. Magennis left us in the sh*t on Friday. I thought he was decent for the first hour. This means a change in midfield.

Would go with:

Marshall

Cadden
Porteous
Hanlon
Cabraja

Kenneh

Newell
Campbell
Mitchell

Boyle
Kucharevych

Just give the likes of Jair, Henderson, McKirdy and Youan the day off and let them put their feet up. In fact, just get Ron's son to run them back home to where they came from. Would prefer the likes of Laidlaw and O'Connor from the youth team on the bench.[/QUOTE.
Rocky was our best player imo

[Donegal Hibby]

Arguably our two poorest players of late have been our two best players Boyle and Porto .Boyles been off his A game for a while now and Just maybe the world cups in his mind (Doesn't want to get injured with it so near) .Porto had a right bad game against St Johnstone and at fault with both goals imo ( Maybe contract situation in mind a bit ) . Notice no ones mentioned maybe putting them on the bench ? Are they too important to drop even when form dips or have a bad game ? Hope I don't get a doing for asking this ? :tin hat:

[MrRobot]

Don't really get some posters frothing over Bushiri on Friday. He didn't do much wrong. However, I think the back 3 hinders us going forward, particularly at home.

Think Hanlon and Porteous should be the defensive pairing against the likes of St Mirren at home. Cabraja I thought was really weak on Friday defensively and his crossing was abysmal when in forward positions. He needs to sharpen up or he could be on the verge of being dropped. Magennis left us in the sh*t on Friday. I thought he was decent for the first hour. This means a change in midfield.

Would go with:

Marshall

Cadden
Porteous
Hanlon
Cabraja

Kenneh

Newell
Campbell
Mitchell

Boyle
Kucharevych

Just give the likes of Jair, Henderson, McKirdy and Youan the day off and let them put their feet up. In fact, just get Ron's son to run them back home to where they came from. Would prefer the likes of Laidlaw and O'Connor from the youth team on the bench.

Jair and McKirdy? Would the youngsters also get a few games before you wanted them punted? :dunno:

[Billy Whizz]

I’m not the manager so not sure who’s fit and available
One thing we’ll need to do on Saturday is win the battle 1st. St Mirren are a big and physical team just now

[wookie70]

I’d think about dropping Boyle for Youan. He won't be dropped but his performances the last few games he been miles below the level he should produce. Youan hasn't done enough to be considered even against Boyle in poor form. It would be interesting to know why Boyle has been so poor. He looks like he is not working as hard to me and not as keen to be involved. Is it the World Cup, Injury, New kid or is he just going through a rare(for him) poor spell

[BoomtownHibees]

He won't be dropped but his performances the last few games he been miles below the level he should produce. Youan hasn't done enough to be considered even against Boyle in poor form. It would be interesting to know why Boyle has been so poor. He looks like he is not working as hard to me and not as keen to be involved. Is it the World Cup, Injury, New kid or is he just going through a rare(for him) poor spell

I think it’s fair to say Boyle hasn’t been as good lately, although still creates the majority of our chances, but to say he isn’t working as hard or not wanting to get involved is wide of the mark imo

[B.H.F.C]

He won't be dropped but his performances the last few games he been miles below the level he should produce. Youan hasn't done enough to be considered even against Boyle in poor form. It would be interesting to know why Boyle has been so poor. He looks like he is not working as hard to me and not as keen to be involved. Is it the World Cup, Injury, New kid or is he just going through a rare(for him) poor spell

He just been poor, simple as that. There isn’t anything more to it than that and it’s not a lack of effort IMO.

[MWHIBBIES]

Arguably our two poorest players of late have been our two best players Boyle and Porto .Boyles been off his A game for a while now and Just maybe the world cups in his mind (Doesn't want to get injured with it so near) .Porto had a right bad game against St Johnstone and at fault with both goals imo ( Maybe contract situation in mind a bit ) . Notice no ones mentioned maybe putting them on the bench ? Are they too important to drop even when form dips or have a bad game ? Hope I don't get a doing for asking this ? :tin hat:

They're our best 2 players, they won't be dropped. Ridiculous to suggest Boyle saving himself for anything. He's always been like this.

[MWHIBBIES]

He won't be dropped but his performances the last few games he been miles below the level he should produce. Youan hasn't done enough to be considered even against Boyle in poor form. It would be interesting to know why Boyle has been so poor. He looks like he is not working as hard to me and not as keen to be involved. Is it the World Cup, Injury, New kid or is he just going through a rare(for him) poor spell

This isn't rare, Boyle could always go 2 or 3 games without much impact.

[Smartie]

They're our best 2 players, they won't be dropped. Ridiculous to suggest Boyle saving himself for anything. He's always been like this.

I disagree.

He's had poor games, often when teams have targeted him as our only threat (with some justification) and nullified him.

Since we were promoted he's been very consistent for a player in his position.

It's only been 3 or 4 games but I honestly can't remember him having 3 or 4 bad or quiet games in a row since he joined us.

There's a bit of pressure on him to deliver if he starts tomorrow imo.

[MWHIBBIES]

I disagree.

He's had poor games, often when teams have targeted him as our only threat (with some justification) and nullified him.

Since we were promoted he's been very consistent for a player in his position.

It's only been 3 or 4 games but I honestly can't remember him having 3 or 4 bad or quiet games in a row since he joined us.

There's a bit of pressure on him to deliver if he starts tomorrow imo.

Na, really, it happened quite a bit. He's a brilliant player but there has always been a reason he's never went to a higher level.

In his last 4 games, he still has a goal and an assist. He's had many runs at Hibs with less contributed than that.

[Donegal Hibby]

They're our best 2 players, they won't be dropped. Ridiculous to suggest Boyle saving himself for anything. He's always been like this.
I'm not wanting a arguement about it btw and I'm not saying he's saving himself either maybe more it's a mind thing thing were he knows if he gets a injury he might miss a opportunity of a life time or maybe he's just off the boil ( no pun intended) or needs a rest ,he's only human like the rest of us after all. I don't know what you mean he's always been like that btw ? Reason I brought it up was another poster wanted Bushiri dropped but didn't mention that Porto had a very bad game which got me wondering how other fans feel when our two best players form dips or they have a bad game as compared to the rest of the squad that some of us call to be benched , rested called it what you like after they have a bad game or there form dips you have just confirmed to me that you think cause they are our two best players they are above being dropped no matter how there form is !Or if they have a bad game ! .was Bushiri poorer than Porto against saints ? . If Youan , Mckirdy. were playing like boyle at the minute would they keep their place in the team ?

[Hiber-nation]

. If Youan , Mckirdy. were playing like boyle at the minute would they keep their place in the team ?

Boyle has been off form by his standards. An off form Boyle is still miles better than these 2.

[B.H.F.C]

I disagree.

He's had poor games, often when teams have targeted him as our only threat (with some justification) and nullified him.

Since we were promoted he's been very consistent for a player in his position.

It's only been 3 or 4 games but I honestly can't remember him having 3 or 4 bad or quiet games in a row since he joined us.

There's a bit of pressure on him to deliver if he starts tomorrow imo.

How quiet he’s been is being exaggerated. He’s no been at his best but he’s not been quiet either. His finishing let him down at Dundee Utd but he was involved. He set up two chances that should have been goals last Friday and missed a good chance himself. Even at Celtic he set up the goal. So end product hasn’t been there as much as we’d hope but it’s not down to lack of effort and other things on his mind and all that.

There is no if about him staring on Saturday. Only way he doesn’t is if he’s injured.

[MWHIBBIES]

I'm not wanting a arguement about it btw and I'm not saying he's saving himself either maybe more it's a mind thing thing were he knows if he gets a injury he might miss a opportunity of a life time or maybe he's just off the boil ( no pun intended) or needs a rest ,he's only human like the rest of us after all. I don't know what you mean he's always been like that btw ? Reason I brought it up was another poster wanted Bushiri dropped but didn't mention that Porto had a very bad game which got me wondering how other fans feel when our two best players form dips or they have a bad game as compared to the rest of the squad that some of us call to be benched , rested called it what you like after they have a bad game or there form dips you have just confirmed to me that you think cause they are our two best players they are above being dropped no matter how there form is !Or if they have a bad game ! .was Bushiri poorer than Porto against saints ? . If Youan , Mckirdy. were playing like boyle at the minute would they keep their place in the team ?

If Youan and Mckirdy were proven quality players, yes, they'd get more than 3 average games before being dropped.

[Donegal Hibby]

Boyle has been off form by his standards. An off form Boyle is still miles better than these 2.
No arguments on that one because your right though you think Bushiri should be dropped if we go to a back four on Saturday?

[Donegal Hibby]

If Youan and Mckirdy were proven quality players, yes, they'd get more than 3 average games before being dropped.
That's a fair enough answer .

[MWHIBBIES]

No arguments on that one because your right though you think Bushiri should be dropped if we go to a back four on Saturday?

I'd say probably drop Hanlon. Rocky is the future, will only improve. I still rate Hanlon but he's obviously at his ceiling.

[JammyDoidger]

I'd go back to what was working.
Don't think it's our best team but it got results.

Marshall

Cadden
Porto
Hanlon
Cabraja

Campbell
Kenneh
Newell

Boyle
Big Myk
Youan

[Donegal Hibby]

I'd say probably drop Hanlon. Rocky is the future, will only improve. I still rate Hanlon but he's obviously at his ceiling.
I think it would be very harsh to drop Rocky he was by far our best defender against St Johnstone imo

[Unseen work]

I’m in two minds.

Prefer us as a 433 but think 352 might be better against St Mirren as they go with 2 upfront in Main and Ayunga who are both absolute tanks and a handful.

433;

……………….……….Marshall…….

Cadden…..Porteous….Rocky….Cabraja….

…………Campbell…Kenneh…Newell….

Boyle……………………………………….Youan/McKirdy/Tavares….

…………………………Kuharevich…….

Harsh on Hanlon but think Rocky was brilliant last week and would deal better with ayunga and main. Left wing is up for grabs, Youan has terrible decision making. McKirdy I feel a bit for, a couple of good sub appearances then only start against Celtic where we were awful. Maybe time for Tavares to be given a shot again, him and Cabraja seem to link up well.

352;

……………………….Marshall…………

……....Porteous…..Rocky….Hanlon….

Cadden….Kenneh….Newell…….Mitchell…..

………………………Campbell……

…………..……..Boyle…….Kuharevich….

Don’t think Cabraja is a wing back and certainly not against a team like St Mirren where I’d be looking to attack them. No other option but to play Kenneh in there which I’m reluctant about with 3 centre halves but he adds to the decision to play Mitchell.

Pace on both flanks and up top. Loads of energy all over the park.

I’d actually be tempted to see McKirdy just off the striker, think he looks comfy on the ball, could play a pass and would have the desire to score a goal and take a risk. Only issue is he’d offer 0 defensively - but with 3 centre halves, Kenneh and 2 wing backs is it a risk Johnson would take? Newell also doesn’t shrink his defensive responsibilities

[Donegal Hibby]

I’m in two minds.

Prefer us as a 433 but think 352 might be better against St Mirren as they go with 2 upfront in Main and Ayunga who are both absolute tanks and a handful.

433;

……………….……….Marshall…….

Cadden…..Porteous….Rocky….Cabraja….

…………Campbell…Kenneh…Newell….

Boyle……………………………………….Youan/McKirdy/Tavares….

…………………………Kuharevich…….

Harsh on Hanlon but think Rocky was brilliant last week and would deal better with ayunga and main. Left wing is up for grabs, Youan has terrible decision making. McKirdy I feel a bit for, a couple of good sub appearances then only start against Celtic where we were awful. Maybe time for Tavares to be given a shot again, him and Cabraja seem to link up well.

352;

……………………….Marshall…………

……....Porteous…..Rocky….Hanlon….

Cadden….Kenneh….Newell…….Mitchell…..

………………………Campbell……

…………..……..Boyle…….Kuharevich….

Don’t think Cabraja is a wing back and certainly not against a team like St Mirren where I’d be looking to attack them. No other option but to play Kenneh in there which I’m reluctant about with 3 centre halves but he adds to the decision to play Mitchell.

Pace on both flanks and up top. Loads of energy all over the park.

I’d actually be tempted to see McKirdy just off the striker, think he looks comfy on the ball, could play a pass and would have the desire to score a goal and take a risk. Only issue is he’d offer 0 defensively - but with 3 centre halves, Kenneh and 2 wing backs is it a risk Johnson would take? Newell also doesn’t shrink his defensive responsibilities
I actually like your 4-3-3 team . I'm a big fan of Youan but don't think this game will suit him at all . What I'd like us to try is Boyle on the right , Mckirdy in the centre and Kukharevych on the left , with Kukharevych coming more central for set pieces . Probably daft but that's what I'd like to see .

[Brightside]

I’d drop Boyle from the starting line up let Youan play in the 2 up top. If it doesn’t work we can go back to 433 and bring on Boyle.

[BoomtownHibees]

I’d drop Boyle from the starting line up let Youan play in the 2 up top. If it doesn’t work we can go back to 433 and bring on Boyle.

Crazy idea imo

[superfurryhibby]

I'd say probably drop Hanlon. Rocky is the future, will only improve. I still rate Hanlon but he's obviously at his ceiling.

Rocky lacks the necessary skill on the ball to be the future at Hibs. He’s cover and no more in my view. We need central defenders who can pass and drive the team forward, as well as defend.

With defending in mind, i’d be more inclined to drop Porto, who cost the team with his “efforts” last week.

I reckon Rocky will drop out and we will see Hanlon and Porto start in a back four.

Possibly bring in Stevenson or Mitchell for Cabraja, he’s not looked great recently.

Kenneh will surely come back in and we will start with Boyle, Myko and Youan up front

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Scott Tanser and his wife involved in a car crash earlier this week that results in him missing tomorrow's match.

[Donegal Hibby]

Scott Tanser and his wife involved in a car crash earlier this week that results in him missing tomorrow's match.
Wish them both a speedy recovery. Would Scott Tanser be one of there better players btw? Here's a update from us .
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/latest-injury-update-ahead-of-st-mirren.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/johnson-were-full-of-positivity

[MWHIBBIES]

Rocky lacks the necessary skill on the ball to be the future at Hibs. He’s cover and no more in my view. We need central defenders who can pass and drive the team forward, as well as defend.

With defending in mind, i’d be more inclined to drop Porto, who cost the team with his “efforts” last week.

I reckon Rocky will drop out and we will see Hanlon and Porto start in a back four.

Possibly bring in Stevenson or Mitchell for Cabraja, he’s not looked great recently.

Kenneh will surely come back in and we will start with Boyle, Myko and Youan up front

He isn't very good on the ball, but he's no worse than McGregor was and he was brilliant for Hibs.

[OldEast]

He isn't very good on the ball, but he's no worse than McGregor was and he was brilliant for Hibs.

I think Rocky is OK once he has the ball. His passing is improving and he's not scared to bring the ball forward if a pass isn't immediately on. He still seems to have difficulty judging the bounce of the ball and the timing of headers but that is also improving. I'm glad we have him.

[PaulSmith]

Surprised to see a back three mentioned so often (to accommodate Rocky) and the central midfield duo of Campbell and Newell again on many a list.

I expect, and hope, so see as many as four or five changes to the starting X1 that’s failed against Dundee Utd, Celtic and St Johnstone.

[Brooster]

[QUOTE=MWHIBBIES;7143167]He isn't very good on the ball, but he's no worse than McGregor was and he was brilliant for Hibs.[/QUOTE

McGregor could header the ball, that's the difference.

[shetlandhibee]

I’d drop Boyle from the starting line up let Youan play in the 2 up top. If it doesn’t work we can go back to 433 and bring on Boyle.
Boyle won’t be dropped anytime soon IMO

[The Tubs]

[QUOTE=MWHIBBIES;7143167]He isn't very good on the ball, but he's no worse than McGregor was and he was brilliant for Hibs.[/QUOTE

McGregor could header the ball, that's the difference.

I think that has improved since he came to Hibs. We don't see balls going straight up off his head anymore and he's getting a little more distance on it. He needs some of the coaching Ronaldo got.

[Unseen work]

Johnson hinting at a couple of changes but similar shape

[J-C]

Johnson hinting at a couple of changes but similar shape

The problem with that shape is Cabraja and Cadden are not proper wingbacks, so we lack the width especially if Boyle is asked to play more central.

[Tyler Durden]

Surprised to see a back three mentioned so often (to accommodate Rocky) and the central midfield duo of Campbell and Newell again on many a list.

I expect, and hope, so see as many as four or five changes to the starting X1 that’s failed against Dundee Utd, Celtic and St Johnstone.

We didn’t field the same eleven in those games.

You’re talking like we have loads of midfield options. Newell and Campbell are very likely to play and for good reason.

[theonlywayisup]

When's the prediction league thread appearing - unfortunately I'm going for a Saint's win.:stirrer:

[Donegal Hibby]

Couple of changes possible for st mirren game according to LJ , could Cabraja be one of these as he's a booking away from a suspension ?

[PaulSmith]

We didn’t field the same eleven in those games.

You’re talking like we have loads of midfield options. Newell and Campbell are very likely to play and for good reason.

Why don’t we have many central midfield options or any on the left hand side of central defence?

[Tyler Durden]

Why don’t we have many central midfield options or any on the left hand side of central defence?

Is this just a prompt for you moaning about recruitment? I’ll pass.

You said you hope for 4/5 changes. Which X1 are you picking then?

[Hibernia&Alba]

If we can get a win it would be massive. Good chance of going back 3rd with Aberdeen playing the Huns.

Lose and it’s a real worry.

Yes, after three defeats it's an important home game, and one we really should be winning. I'm feeling confident for some reason; I just fancy us to win. These are the fixtures where we should be attacking the opposition from the off.

[PaulSmith]

Is this just a prompt for you moaning about recruitment? I’ll pass.

You said you hope for 4/5 changes. Which X1 are you picking then?

Moan, comment, shout, post.. call it what you want but it doesn’t make it any less true.

Lee Johnson will make 4/5 changes changes tomorrow, I’m certain about that. What they are is up to him.

[Tambo]

As I said they have played most of their games at home.

I'm confident of the 3 points but will probably be another squeaky bum 1-0 with many chances.

[He's here!]

As I said they have played most of their games at home.

I'm confident of the 3 points but will probably be another squeaky bum 1-0 with many chances.

I was confident last week but after we fluffed our lines so badly I'm adopting an 'expect disappointment and you won't be disappointed' approach.

[Jones28]

I don’t think there’s a huge issue with the formation, either back five or back four would do me. I’d be more inclined to play a front three though.

Cadden Porteous Hanlon Cabraja
Kenneh
Campbell Newall
Boyle Myko Youan

[andrew70]

Marshall
Porto Rocky Hanlon
Boyle Henderson Kenneh Newell Mitchell
Youan Big Myk

[scoopyboy]

Moan, comment, shout, post.. call it what you want but it doesn’t make it any less true.

Lee Johnson will make 4/5 changes changes tomorrow, I’m certain about that. What they are is up to him.

He won’t.

[B.H.F.C]

He won’t.

I don’t think he can. Despite the squad size, there are too many that are squad fillers and will only play if they need to.

[ClermistonGreen]

Wilson
Duncan , Davis
Stanton , Madsen , McGraw
:agree: :flag:

[Donegal Hibby]

Came across this about our game And next few games .
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/stuttering-hibs-told-to-seize-chance-of-four-massive-games-and-put-aberdeen-and-hearts-behind-them-3898131

[Pretty Boy]

Back to basics and the team that had us winning 4 out of 5 rather than the experimenting that has seen us lose 2 out of 2.

Marshall
Cadden
Porteous
Hanlon
Cabraja
Kenneh
Newell
Campbell
Boyle
Kuhkarevych
Youan

[green day]

Back to basics and the team that had us winning 4 out of 5 rather than the experimenting that has seen us lose 2 out of 2.

Marshall
Cadden
Porteous
Hanlon
Cabraja
Kenneh
Newell
Campbell
Boyle
Kuhkarevych
Youan

I would agree that, Kenneh was playing well and probably needed a break, but with no Magennis, back to what worked before.

[JimBHibees]

Back to basics and the team that had us winning 4 out of 5 rather than the experimenting that has seen us lose 2 out of 2.

Marshall
Cadden
Porteous
Hanlon
Cabraja
Kenneh
Newell
Campbell
Boyle
Kuhkarevych
Youan

Agree

[Heisenberg]

Back to basics and the team that had us winning 4 out of 5 rather than the experimenting that has seen us lose 2 out of 2.

Marshall
Cadden
Porteous
Hanlon
Cabraja
Kenneh
Newell
Campbell
Boyle
Kuhkarevych
Youan

Also agree with that team. Think we’ll see the 3-5-2 again though.

[flash]

Back to basics and the team that had us winning 4 out of 5 rather than the experimenting that has seen us lose 2 out of 2.

Marshall
Cadden
Porteous
Hanlon
Cabraja
Kenneh
Newell
Campbell
Boyle
Kuhkarevych
Youan
Has to be this.

[Eyrie]

Back to basics and the team that had us winning 4 out of 5 rather than the experimenting that has seen us lose 2 out of 2.

Marshall
Cadden
Porteous
Hanlon
Cabraja
Kenneh
Newell
Campbell
Boyle
Kuhkarevych
Youan

Agreed.

Not a fan of 3-5-2 unless we have the right players. The problem then is that their skill sets don't always map to another formation whereas the above 4-3-3 can change to 4-4-2, 4-5-1 or even 4-4-1 if there is a red card.

[Green Reaper]

Back to basics and the team that had us winning 4 out of 5 rather than the experimenting that has seen us lose 2 out of 2.

Marshall
Cadden
Porteous
Hanlon
Cabraja
Kenneh
Newell
Campbell
Boyle
Kuhkarevych
Youan

That’s it for me, back to what was working

[Fergus52]

The problem with that shape is Cabraja and Cadden are not proper wingbacks, so we lack the width especially if Boyle is asked to play more central.

How is cadden not a proper wing back?

He's better there than right back in a 4 or as a winger.

[MWHIBBIES]

How is cadden not a proper wing back?

He's better there than right back in a 4 or as a winger.

Indeed. Cadden is a very decent wing back. Played his best football for Hibs there.

[Since452]

Really need to win this today or it could quickly turn into a horrible run

[J-C]

How is cadden not a proper wing back?

He's better there than right back in a 4 or as a winger.

Struggles pace wise, good final ball but struggles to get back, played most of his career at RM.

[MWHIBBIES]

Struggles pace wise, good final ball but struggles to get back, played most of his career at RM.

Of course, right mid, a position not requiring pace or ability to get back and defend.

Cadden was about the only player who consistently decent under Maloney at rwb. He's played mostly well at right back this season too. Always gets us forward

[Allant1981]

Struggles pace wise, good final ball but struggles to get back, played most of his career at RM.

Cadden is definitely no slouch

[JimBHibees]

How is cadden not a proper wing back?

He's better there than right back in a 4 or as a winger.

Agree think that suits him better with cover behind him