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Souter96Mac
13-10-2022, 11:26 AM
I personally have written off Saturday's game, as our record away to Celtic is pretty poor. However, it seems they have been hit with injuries, European failure and not the most convincing domestic record of late.

Suspect to see some changes to the starting eleven. I also wouldn't mind seeing a slight change of shape

Marshall
Porto Fish Hanlon
Cadden Magennis Kenneh Newell Cabraja
Boyle Myko

Unlikely to see the above, and it'd be bold starting Fish away at Celtic Park, but I think it would give us a solid shape, whilst mixing up the team.

McGruber
13-10-2022, 11:45 AM
I accept this will be a very difficult game which we will likely not get anything from. That said, probably a better chance than usual - they aren't in great form and on the back of European game which tends to see them dip. On top of that and despite getting beat at Tannadice, we are playing pretty well and the big pitch should suit our players/style of play. Playing as expansive as lately might not be the game plan for Parkhead right enough.

Like the OP team. Fish be a big call, maybe replace with Rocky if fit. Would also like Magennis in the starting 11 but he is not ready to be starting yet, not least at Parkhead

SHODAN
13-10-2022, 11:59 AM
12 years and 15 games without a win at Parkhead, but Celtic aren't in great form right now.


Marshall

Cadden Porteous Bushiri Hanlon Cabraja

Campbell Kenneh Newell

Boyle Kuharevich

HendoDelivered
13-10-2022, 12:07 PM
Marsh

Cadds
Hanlon
Porto
Cabraja

Newell
Kenneh
Magennis

Boyle
Myko
Mckirdy

Since452
13-10-2022, 12:09 PM
Yeah i've written this game off as well. Not given it much thought to be honest.

easty
13-10-2022, 12:26 PM
12 years and 15 games without a win at Parkhead, but Celtic aren't in great form right now.


Marshall

Cadden Porteous Bushiri Hanlon Cabraja

Campbell Kenneh Newell

Boyle Kuharevich


They're in good form domestically. 10 games, 9 wins, 1 defeat. Scored 33, conceded 6.

easty
13-10-2022, 12:28 PM
Anything we can pick up at Parkhead will be a bonus, but it's the next 2 games after that where we absolutely need to get 6 points.

Blaster
13-10-2022, 01:04 PM
Anything we can pick up at Parkhead will be a bonus, but it's the next 2 games after that where we absolutely need to get 6 points.

Agree. For the Celtic game though I think I’d play Stevenson instead of Cabraja as I worry about him getting sent off

Souter96Mac
13-10-2022, 01:29 PM
They're in good form domestically. 10 games, 9 wins, 1 defeat. Scored 33, conceded 6.

Fair enough, but in the short term, over their last 3 games, they got beat away in paisley, and then had two 2-1 wins which didn't sound the most convincing albeit wins nonetheless.

Pretty sure they've had worse form and still gubbed us, but this should still be seen as a "better" opportunity for us to get something

basehibby
13-10-2022, 02:14 PM
I fancy us to take a point on Sat. Our form has been very good of late whereas Celtic will be playing on the back of a draining Euro defeat.

I expect to be in a minority but I actually would not change the starting lineup at all. Not for this game anyway. It would be very tempting to bring McKirdy in for Youan but I actually think the wide open spaces of Parkhead will suit Youan's game very well and his pace will help us stretch them at the back along with Boyle on the other wing. Magennis is another big shout but I think it's just too early to bring him in as a starter.

JimBHibees
13-10-2022, 02:39 PM
Anything we can pick up at Parkhead will be a bonus, but it's the next 2 games after that where we absolutely need to get 6 points.

On paper that record is good however their recent league form losing to Buddies and only beating Well and St Js 2 1 somewhat fortuitously in both cases would suggest they aren't at top form. In saying that they will be up for this more than other games imo. Vital we dont lose an early goal they play like a first half team that can run out of steam. Would be surprised if we dont score Saturday

500miles
13-10-2022, 02:43 PM
We've got a really young team that could be tripped up a bit here, but by the same token, we might just take them by surprise.

I'd play Campbell on the left of a front 3 and Magennis as our most advanced midfielder. We don't want them having time on the ball at all.

Hibees1973
13-10-2022, 02:45 PM
Apart from the game against Rangers this is likely to be the only one where we won't have the majority of the possession.

This means a different approach from every other game so far this season. Would play Myko up front on his own with Boyle just behind him to try and hit Celtic on the break. Two banks of four must be solid. We really don't need our full backs to go charging up the park as we will get exposed.

We are capable of a draw with our excellent goalkeeper and the 2nd best defence in the league, but very much doubt it.

1st goal for us is vital but reckon we only have about a 10% chance of gaining any points.

Billy Whizz
13-10-2022, 03:25 PM
Just as an aside, Lewis Muller hasn’t been in the last 2 match squads. Is he injured or not selected
Boy hasn’t seen much football at Hibs

Jim44
13-10-2022, 05:41 PM
I don’t think we can realistically go into the Celtic game expecting or even hoping to get points. At best a good performance would be acceptable in order to start an upward trend in the ensuing games.

B.H.F.C
13-10-2022, 05:47 PM
I don’t think we can realistically go into the Celtic game expecting or even hoping to get points. At best a good performance would be acceptable in order to start an upward trend in the ensuing games.

Hope the team and LJ have a bit more belief than that. It’s obviously a big ask but it’s 11v11 and far from impossible.

One thing we will definitely get in this game is chances.

CapitalGreen
13-10-2022, 05:54 PM
Just as an aside, Lewis Muller hasn’t been in the last 2 match squads. Is he injured or not selected
Boy hasn’t seen much football at Hibs

Not seen him in any pictures from training.

basehibby
13-10-2022, 05:54 PM
Apart from the game against Rangers this is likely to be the only one where we won't have the majority of the possession.

This means a different approach from every other game so far this season. Would play Myko up front on his own with Boyle just behind him to try and hit Celtic on the break. Two banks of four must be solid. We really don't need our full backs to go charging up the park as we will get exposed.

We are capable of a draw with our excellent goalkeeper and the 2nd best defence in the league, but very much doubt it.

1st goal for us is vital but reckon we only have about a 10% chance of gaining any points.

Historically we've got a draw in about 1 in 5 attempts and a win in 1 in 10 attempts at Parkhead - so about 30% chance of a result at Parkhead. As for more recent times, since we got promoted back to the SPL we've managed 2 draws and 6 defeats - ie 25% chance. So - the law of averages seems to dictate we are due something from this fixture - bring it on :greengrin

number9dream
13-10-2022, 06:11 PM
Marshall
Cadden Porteous Hanlon Stevenson
Boyle Kenneh Newell Cabraja
Campbell
Myko

Celtic like to double up on full-backs, although they might not be as effective if Jota and Abada are out.

CB Hibs 68
13-10-2022, 07:52 PM
Historically we've got a draw in about 1 in 5 attempts and a win in 1 in 10 attempts at Parkhead - so about 30% chance of a result at Parkhead. As for more recent times, since we got promoted back to the SPL we've managed 2 draws and 6 defeats - ie 25% chance. So - the law of averages seems to dictate we are due something from this fixture - bring it on :greengrinHoly **** were you involved with the Hadron Collider?My Arithmetic 0 level can’t keep pace .

Tambo
13-10-2022, 10:27 PM
Marshall

Fish
Porteous
Hanlon

Cadden
Cabraja

Kenneh
Newell
Campbell

Boyle
Myko

I'm not pep or anything but I think the 3-5-2 would be best away at celtic as I feel 4-3-3 would leave to much space out wide and leave both Cadden and Cabraja exposed.

Either way I'm sure we will have a go and look forward to it.

Tambo
14-10-2022, 10:54 AM
Johnson saying Mitchell is looking razor sharp in training and could feature tomorrow.

yerauldda
14-10-2022, 10:59 AM
Mitchell could be a good shout, more defensively sound than Youan.

I reckon we could see:

Marshall
Cadden Porteous Hanlon Cabraja
Boyle Campbell Kenneh Newell Mitchell
Kuharevich

Unseen work
14-10-2022, 11:41 AM
Only change I can see is McKirdy or Magennis for Youan.

…………………..Marshall………….

Cadden…Porteous…Hanlon…Cabraja…

……………..Kenneh….Newell….

Boyle………….Campbell/Magennis……Campbell/McKirdy..

…………………..Kukharevych…….

All depends on how attacking Johnson wants to be, Youan would offer more than McKirdy defensively but he’s been off the boil going forward. Campbell off the left would offer that plus the mobility to get forward to help create chances

I’d be stunned if Mitchell starts, he’s not been in the squad never mind coming on.

Again I’d be surprised at a change of shape, we seem to know our current shape very well and have been doing well with it

Keith_M
14-10-2022, 11:46 AM
Whichever team he chooses, we seriously need a striker that can actually put the ball in the net, or we're humped.

All the excitement about finally getting the McKirdy deal over the line had me assuming he was a really great prospect and was gonna solve our goal scoring problems but, so far, he really hasn't lived up to the expectations.

Donegal Hibby
14-10-2022, 02:47 PM
Jota out for our game , can only be good for us that. football scotland .

truehibernian
14-10-2022, 03:04 PM
I’d like to see McKirdy start - bags of energy but he’d need to keep the head. Youan needs a rest.

Donegal Hibby
14-10-2022, 04:57 PM
I’d like to see McKirdy start - bags of energy but he’d need to keep the head. Youan needs a rest.
If it wasn't for Mckirdys temperament I'd agree with you but he has and very last thing we need at parkhead is to lose a man , I'd probably have him on bench again .

Jones28
14-10-2022, 05:14 PM
I’d be tempted to go a 4-2-3-1, maybe have Kennah and Newall a bit deeper and Campbell in the no 10 role. Myko up top with Boyle on the right and someone else on the left - McKirdy gets the chance to make it his own perhaps?

JammyDoidger
14-10-2022, 08:02 PM
Marshall

Cadden
Porto
Fish
Hanlon
Cabraja

Campbell
Stevenson
Newell

Big Myk
Boyle

No way we can afford to play Kenneh at parkhead, takes far too much time on the ball, the way celtic press to win the ball back quickly id play Stevenson in midfield in this one.

MWHIBBIES
14-10-2022, 08:12 PM
Marshall

Cadden
Porto
Fish
Hanlon
Cabraja

Campbell
Stevenson
Newell

Big Myk
Boyle

No way we can afford to play Kenneh at parkhead, takes far too much time on the ball, the way celtic press to win the ball back quickly id play Stevenson in midfield in this one.

We can't afford to play our defensive mid at park head? But you'd rather play a fullback who is worse on the ball in there?

Kenneh really isn't bad with the ball and really doesn't take that long to move it. I think it's a perfect match for Kenneh.

JammyDoidger
14-10-2022, 09:07 PM
We can't afford to play our defensive mid at park head? But you'd rather play a fullback who is worse on the ball in there?

Kenneh really isn't bad with the ball and really doesn't take that long to move it. I think it's a perfect match for Kenneh.

Each to their own opinions mate, most times I've seen him this season he's robbed off the ball, maybe get more time in the development league In England and needs time to settle up here, he's a young boy, potentially a player in there but he looked uncomfortable during the week and was rightly hooked at half time. Stevenson was excellent there last year when called upon.

CapitalGreen
14-10-2022, 09:25 PM
Each to their own opinions mate, most times I've seen him this season he's robbed off the ball, maybe get more time in the development league In England and needs time to settle up here, he's a young boy, potentially a player in there but he looked uncomfortable during the week and was rightly hooked at half time. Stevenson was excellent there last year when called upon.

He’s only been dispossessed twice in his last 5 games.

Over those same 5 games, Newell has been dispossessed 4 times and Campbell 5 times. His pass completion numbers are also higher than both Newell and Campbell.

Of our current midfield 3, he’s probably least likely to turnover possession.

Donegal Hibby
14-10-2022, 09:28 PM
I'd be extremely surprised if Kennah is not in team been very impressed with him sometimes so much that I forget he's only 19 . Think he's going to be badly needed tomorrow imo .

JammyDoidger
14-10-2022, 09:42 PM
He’s only been dispossessed twice in his last 5 games.

Over those same 5 games, Newell has been dispossessed 4 times and Campbell 5 times. His pass completion numbers are also higher than both Newell and Campbell.

Of our current midfield 3, he’s probably least likely to turnover possession.

Interesting stats, although I think he gets the ball in deeper areas and if he loses it it's more likely to be costly, and the position he plays he should be playing the shorter easier passes than Newell or campbell so it's likely his stats will be higher than the other 2..during the week against United and Livi spring to mind I don't think he's played very well, And been robbed in dangerous areas, I'm definitely not just making this up and I've no agenda against the boy, I just think with the gaffer taking him off at half time he might try something different.

B.H.F.C
14-10-2022, 09:47 PM
Each to their own opinions mate, most times I've seen him this season he's robbed off the ball, maybe get more time in the development league In England and needs time to settle up here, he's a young boy, potentially a player in there but he looked uncomfortable during the week and was rightly hooked at half time. Stevenson was excellent there last year when called upon.

Kenneh had a bit of a disaster the other night and was rightly hooked at HT.

But he’s young and learning and if Johnson keeps the same shape, I think he should play. If Johnson is inclined to go to a three at the back I think Magennis may come in as less need for an out and out defensive midfielder. Not sure he’ll do that after trying it against Rangers and making a double sub and changing shape after 20 odd minutes.

ekhibee
14-10-2022, 11:56 PM
We can't afford to play our defensive mid at park head? But you'd rather play a fullback who is worse on the ball in there?

Kenneh really isn't bad with the ball and really doesn't take that long to move it. I think it's a perfect match for Kenneh.

Yep, agree with this. We have to play our best team, and IMO he should definitely be in there.

Nicho87
15-10-2022, 07:10 AM
I’d go

Marshall

Porteous Fish Hanlon

Cadden Campbell Newell Mitchell

Magennis

Myk Boyle

Tyler Durden
15-10-2022, 07:15 AM
If we do go 3 at the back I think it’ll be Lewis or Cabraja in the back 3 rather than Fish.

Lots of talk about Mitchell coming in but it does seem a little premature. Hopefully we don’t take any chances with him

The Spaceman
15-10-2022, 07:40 AM
Unfortunately always write these games off and hope we don’t get hammered, but we definitely do have something about us just now and could hurt anyone. Desperately unlucky Vs Utd and our goal difference would be hugely higher if the attackers were even performing to an average standard in putting chances away.

SteveHFC
15-10-2022, 08:39 AM
Have a spare ticket for sale for today’s game. Face Value.

Fergus52
15-10-2022, 09:05 AM
He’s only been dispossessed twice in his last 5 games.

Over those same 5 games, Newell has been dispossessed 4 times and Campbell 5 times. His pass completion numbers are also higher than both Newell and Campbell.

Of our current midfield 3, he’s probably least likely to turnover possession.

Newell and Campbell are both clearly told to take risks on the ball though with more forward passes and dribble attempts etc, while also playing much further forward where space is tighter.

Kennehs pass completion is great cause there's nearly always an easy option for him and he's told to keep it simple.

He's clearly our worst centre mid on the ball by a long way, he never looks that comfortable in possession to me and it's nearly cost us a couple of times this season. Has other qualities that make up for it though.

Can see the logic of dropping him for someone more press resistant as if he loses it right in front of our defence Celtic could punish us, but his physicality and ball winning ability might be needed to keep hatate and o'riley quiet.

If we keep the 433 shape I'd definitely play him, but if we swapped to a back 3 he'd be the one to drop out

Since452
15-10-2022, 09:05 AM
I’d go

Marshall

Porteous Fish Hanlon

Cadden Campbell Newell Mitchell

Has Fish done anything at all to deserve a start?
Magennis

Myk Boyle

Has Fish done anything at all to deserve a start?

GreenCastle
15-10-2022, 09:18 AM
Hibs haven’t beaten Celtic since December 2018.

Hibs haven’t beaten Celtic away since January 2010.

Would take a point today but even that will be difficult.

Nicho87
15-10-2022, 09:27 AM
Has Fish done anything at all to deserve a start?

He’s reeled the others in and managers took the bait

Chorley Hibee
15-10-2022, 09:33 AM
Have a spare ticket for sale for today’s game. Face Value.

Is this still available?

Have a friend looking for one.

Brightside
15-10-2022, 09:33 AM
Each to their own opinions mate, most times I've seen him this season he's robbed off the ball, maybe get more time in the development league In England and needs time to settle up here, he's a young boy, potentially a player in there but he looked uncomfortable during the week and was rightly hooked at half time. Stevenson was excellent there last year when called upon.

You aren’t watching properly. His stats are top level already.

GreenCastle
15-10-2022, 09:35 AM
We played 3-5-2 against the Huns at home and he may go the same way today to stop them playing through us centrally but also keeping 2 up and an out ball.

SteveHFC
15-10-2022, 09:39 AM
Have a spare ticket for sale for today’s game. Face Value.

Ticket sold.

SteveHFC
15-10-2022, 09:39 AM
Is this still available?

Have a friend looking for one.

Ticket sold.

Billy Whizz
15-10-2022, 09:42 AM
Ticket sold.

Steve, did the lad I mentioned call you

noucampos
15-10-2022, 10:44 AM
I assumed Kenneth was hooked at half time on Tuesday because we were chasing the game and decided to sacrifice our defensive midfielder because United were going to sit back. He's improved massively since the start of the season.

SteveHFC
15-10-2022, 10:45 AM
Steve, did the lad I mentioned call you

He sent a message mate. 👍

DaniAndersson
15-10-2022, 10:50 AM
I'd be extremely surprised if Kennah is not in team been very impressed with him sometimes so much that I forget he's only 19 . Think he's going to be badly needed tomorrow imo .

Kenneh has to play today, only midfielder we have who has got a defensive mindset.

PH91
15-10-2022, 11:00 AM
Only change I can see is McKirdy or Magennis for Youan.

…………………..Marshall………….

Cadden…Porteous…Hanlon…Cabraja…

……………..Kenneh….Newell….

Boyle………….Campbell/Magennis……Campbell/McKirdy..

…………………..Kukharevych…….

All depends on how attacking Johnson wants to be, Youan would offer more than McKirdy defensively but he’s been off the boil going forward. Campbell off the left would offer that plus the mobility to get forward to help create chances

I’d be stunned if Mitchell starts, he’s not been in the squad never mind coming on.

Again I’d be surprised at a change of shape, we seem to know our current shape very well and have been doing well with it

The team picks itself bar that front left position where youan hasn't been good of late. Back 3 wouldnt make sense to me given their threat from wide, could end up pinned in with a back 5.

Mitchell in for youan would make a lot of sense, offers more defensively and is still very pacey. As you say, though, going from not in the squad to starting at parkhead would be surprising so expect youan to stay in.

This is the kind of game campbell is made for, I can't see him being shunted out wide.

erin go bragh
15-10-2022, 11:23 AM
Hibs haven’t beaten Celtic since December 2018.

Hibs haven’t beaten Celtic away since January 2010.

Would take a point today but even that will be difficult.

On a more positive note. We have drew two of our last three visits at Celtic park 😁 Today could be the day we win 🤞

JammyDoidger
15-10-2022, 03:19 PM
We can't afford to play our defensive mid at park head? But you'd rather play a fullback who is worse on the ball in there?

Kenneh really isn't bad with the ball and really doesn't take that long to move it. I think it's a perfect match for Kenneh.

Not trying to point score or that here, but I seen it coming..he's caught in possession regularly, was murder through the week, today was not the game for him.