Var

[overdrive]

I see Hibs vs St Johnstone is to be the first VAR match in the SPFL. Needed it last night!

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-clash-set-to-be-first-in-scotland-to-be-played-with-var-3876549?fbclid=IwAR2soYPasNIRfimcWV8ntbKbtPtYC8JrZ wgdt0U0C90NfM132Tg1knI7BL8

[Ronniekirk]

I thought I saw an article the other day saying it now wasn’t doing to be the hibs st Johnstone game that was going to be first

[BoomtownHibees]

I see Hibs vs St Johnstone is to be the first VAR match in the SPFL. Needed it last night!

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-clash-set-to-be-first-in-scotland-to-be-played-with-var-3876549?fbclid=IwAR2soYPasNIRfimcWV8ntbKbtPtYC8JrZ wgdt0U0C90NfM132Tg1knI7BL8

With the state of our “officials” we will get home by about Saturday afternoon

[Jpdhfc]

I thought I heard it was too be when we were at ipox.

[Hibbyradge]

I see Hibs vs St Johnstone is to be the first VAR match in the SPFL. Needed it last night!

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-clash-set-to-be-first-in-scotland-to-be-played-with-var-3876549?fbclid=IwAR2soYPasNIRfimcWV8ntbKbtPtYC8JrZ wgdt0U0C90NfM132Tg1knI7BL8

Unfortunately, I think the goal would have still been disallowed.

I could do with seeing it close up, but it looks like Tavares gave the United defender the tiniest of shoves before hitting his shot which, I think, is why it was chalked off.

VAR would just have confirmed it, even though there were no complaints from United players.

[BoomtownHibees]

Unfortunately, I think the goal would have still been disallowed.

I could do with seeing it close up, but it looks like Tavares gave the United defender the tiniest of shoves before hitting his shot which, I think, is why it was chalked off.

VAR would just have confirmed it, even though there were no complaints from United players.

Youan

[easty]

Unfortunately, I think the goal would have still been disallowed.

I could do with seeing it close up, but it looks like Tavares gave the United defender the tiniest of shoves before hitting his shot which, I think, is why it was chalked off.

VAR would just have confirmed it, even though there were no complaints from United players.

Absolutely. It’s a very very soft foul, but no chance VAR would overrule the ref on that one.

[MelbourneHibees]

Can only be good for the game going forwards.

[Tyler Durden]

Absolutely. It’s a very very soft foul, but no chance VAR would overrule the ref on that one.

Given that it was apparently the linesman who gave it, you'd hope that VAR would ask the Ref to take a look himself.

Albeit I think it's gonna be a total sh*tshow in Scotland. There is a struggle to get 6 half decent refs every weekend, never mind another 6 to sit as the VAR.

[Hibbyradge]

Youan

Yes, thanks.

[Hibbyradge]

Given that it was apparently the linesman who gave it, you'd hope that VAR would ask the Ref to take a look himself.

Albeit I think it's gonna be a total sh*tshow in Scotland. There is a struggle to get 6 half decent refs every weekend, never mind another 6 to sit as the VAR.

It's a ****show now.

I'm confident that VAR will be a benefit, once it settles in.

[Donegal Hibby]

Mark Clattenberg warns of VAR inconsistencies . BBC SPORT . Still think it will be a good thing when it gets up and running . If I remember right was Mark Clattenberg not pretty inconsistent himself ? :hmmm:

[easty]

Given that it was apparently the linesman who gave it, you'd hope that VAR would ask the Ref to take a look himself.

Albeit I think it's gonna be a total sh*tshow in Scotland. There is a struggle to get 6 half decent refs every weekend, never mind another 6 to sit as the VAR.

Yeah maybe.

VAR only meant to get involved in a clear and obvious error though, and I don't think last nights incident would fit in that category.

[Monts]

Yeah maybe.

VAR only meant to get involved in a clear and obvious error though, and I don't think last nights incident would fit in that category.

I suspect though, due to the softness of it, that if VAR had been in place, the goal may have been given, and the on field officials would've left it to VAR to call any foul.

[green day]

Yeah maybe.

VAR only meant to get involved in a clear and obvious error though, and I don't think last nights incident would fit in that category.

Dont they check all goals / ruled out goals in the EPL to see if the ref/lino got it right?

[Hermit Crab]

https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1580219487948865536?s=48&t=pyMr1Elf9zjTcQ48qgtp6Q (https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1580219487948865536?s=48&t=pyMr1Elf9zjTcQ48qgtp6Q)

[Hermit Crab]

Dont they check all goals / ruled out goals in the EPL to see if the ref/lino got it right?


Yes, every goal and build up gets checked. There was a game last week to check if the ball had went out for a throw in the build up to a goal, think it was Everton v Man U but I can't remember.

[HoboHarry]

It's a ****show now.

I'm confident that VAR will be a benefit, once it settles in.
England have had it a while now and there are still ridiculous decisions made. The West Ham disallowed goal was a beauty - the VAR official saw something that just didn't exist. It's only as good as the official in charge of it.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Yet another Hibs first!

albeit I hate VAR.

[MWHIBBIES]

Wonderful it comes in a week after we've been absolutely ****ing shafted out of going miles clear in 3rd.

Utter ***** league this.

[Donegal Hibby]

Yet another Hibs first!

albeit I hate VAR.
It could be worse though imagine if we end up with Steven Conroy and Des roache in charge of it ? :duck:

[Feed McGraw]

Wonderful it comes in a week after we've been absolutely ****ing shafted out of going miles clear in 3rd.

Utter ***** league this. Thing is, the officials have imagined an infringement, but even if they imagined one against one of the old firm they would just ignore their imagination and award the goal.

[greenlex]

Everyone will have played one round of games. It makes sense from a fairness point of view it’s after this weekends games. If it’s ready let’s get on with it.

[Hibbyradge]

England have had it a while now and there are still ridiculous decisions made. The West Ham disallowed goal was a beauty - the VAR official saw something that just didn't exist. It's only as good as the official in charge of it.

There will always be mistakes.

My point is that there will be fewer with VAR than there are now.

[Just_Jimmy]

Bad football and referees made worse. It'll kill the game.

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[heretoday]

VAR is a disaster. Football needs to flow and supporters need to be able to celebrate without some chink of doubt in the mind.
It's not like rugby where there are frequent lengthy stoppages as a matter of course.

[Hibbyradge]

VAR is a disaster. Football needs to flow and supporters need to be able to celebrate without some chink of doubt in the mind.
It's not like rugby where there are frequent lengthy stoppages as a matter of course.

I'm not sure I'm happy that Rangers fans were celebrating Liverpool's 7th goal being called offside.

I'm happy that VAR allowed it to stand and the Liverpool fans are happy that they got to celebrate after all.

I wish the same applied to our disallowed goal last night.

[Criswell]

Unfortunately, I think the goal would have still been disallowed.

I could do with seeing it close up, but it looks like Tavares gave the United defender the tiniest of shoves before hitting his shot which, I think, is why it was chalked off.

VAR would just have confirmed it, even though there were no complaints from United players.

Funny how he didn't notice Campbell being wiped out by a defender when he looked like he going get a tap-in after the ball came back of the goalkeeper.

[HendoDelivered]

VAR is a disaster. Football needs to flow and supporters need to be able to celebrate without some chink of doubt in the mind.
It's not like rugby where there are frequent lengthy stoppages as a matter of course.

This. Can see it being a disaster.

[Nicho87]

Is goal line technology separate to VAR. sorry if a stupid question but I know the refs in England have the watch that signals it’s a goal

Does VAR have the capability to check this or is this completely separate - which we won’t have

[Forza Fred]

Absolutely. It’s a very very soft foul, but no chance VAR would overrule the ref on that one.

But if it’s a foul, soft or otherwise, it’s still a foul isn’t it?

[Forza Fred]

We’ve had it in Oz now for two and a bit years.

When first introduced…the catcalls were loud and varied.

Lots of goals chalked off for what people thought were ‘insignificant’ things, but technically correct.

If the intro goes the same way, I predict the first whinges are about the time it takes for linesmen to raise their flag to signal offside.

What DID happen was the flag was raised immediately…….now linesman are told not to flag until that passage of play has been completed…….so that ‘disallowed goals’ because someone has wrongly been flagged, and the play stopped…don’t occur.

VAR definitely helps with offside, but other issues are still debated after VAR viewing as in some instances it still gets down to interpretation, and what the ref sees…..or thinks he sees.

[Forza Fred]

I have seen on this thread numerous references along the lines of ‘VAR won’t overrule’ the original decision.

Correct.

VAR won’t overrule ANY decision of the ref….that is not it’s purpose.

What it WILL do though is request the referee to have another look in those instances the VAR operators think are errors…the ref will view the footage and then HE will make a decision accordingly.

It will STILL be the ref who makes the decision…he won’t be ‘overruled’.

[Hibbyradge]

I just watched the Champions League goals on BT. There must have been 4 or more occasions when VAR helped the referee correct his original wrong decision. That's in one night, in one half of one competition.

Would people really prefer those decisions hadn't been changed? So fans can celebrate spontaneously even though they shouldn't be?

There's no point in saying that the preference is for the officials to get it right the first time because they're human and they're going to make mistakes.

VAR is wanted by referees because they want to get decisions right and the technology helps them do that.

[Donegal Hibby]

Just watched all SPL managers having there say about VAR .Everyone all for it .First manager on was Jim Goodwin. :rolleyes:. Skysports btw

[cameronw-hfc]

My issue with VAR isn't the system so much as it is the people operating it. I have 0 faith these idiots will make the right call even with a video in front of them.

[HoboHarry]

I have seen on this thread numerous references along the lines of ‘VAR won’t overrule’ the original decision.

Correct.

VAR won’t overrule ANY decision of the ref….that is not it’s purpose.

What it WILL do though is request the referee to have another look in those instances the VAR operators think are errors…the ref will view the footage and then HE will make a decision accordingly.

It will STILL be the ref who makes the decision…he won’t be ‘overruled’.
You are correct but I'd add that I've only once seen a referee in England stick to his original decision after being asked to go to the monitors

[PatHead]

When will VAR be used? As I understand it every goal will be checked, every red card and offsides. Are there other occasions?

[Just_Jimmy]

I just watched the Champions League goals on BT. There must have been 4 or more occasions when VAR helped the referee correct his original wrong decision. That's in one night, in one half of one competition.

Would people really prefer those decisions hadn't been changed? So fans can celebrate spontaneously even though they shouldn't be?

There's no point in saying that the preference is for the officials to get it right the first time because they're human and they're going to make mistakes.

VAR is wanted by referees because they want to get decisions right and the technology helps them do that.It won't work like that in Scotland. It'll help 2, probably 3 teams. None of which will be Hibs.

Everyone else will benefit and suffer, except when playing those teams where they'll just suffer. Scottish football is bent and it'll only get worse through this.

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[Forza Fred]

You are correct but I'd add that I've only once seen a referee in England stick to his original decision after being asked to go to the monitors

I’m sure there will be better, or more detailed stats around but a quick Google suggests a decision in the EPL is changed after VAR intervention the equivalent of once in every 3 and a half games.

Dunno whether that’s a good thing or a bad thing.

[MWHIBBIES]

VAR is a disaster. Football needs to flow and supporters need to be able to celebrate without some chink of doubt in the mind.
It's not like rugby where there are frequent lengthy stoppages as a matter of course.

Football currently doesn't flow at all. It is full of cheating and time-wasting.

Supporters do celebrate without any problems. If a foul or offside has happened, the goal will be disallowed. Do you think illegal goals should stand so fans can celebrate? No thanks.

[MWHIBBIES]

It won't work like that in Scotland. It'll help 2, probably 3 teams. None of which will be Hibs.

Everyone else will benefit and suffer, except when playing those teams where they'll just suffer. Scottish football is bent and it'll only get worse through this.

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This is rubbish. Refs on the line, seeing clear replays of their mistakes, they simply are not going to chose to **** opposition of the old firm over.

Also, a max of 8 games a season are vs the old firm. I'd quite happily have 30 fairer matches.

[Forza Fred]

When will VAR be used? As I understand it every goal will be checked, every red card and offsides. Are there other occasions?

IFAB Laws of the Game 5.4 relating to VAR states that it will only be used in relation to

“A clear and obvious error, or serious missed incident in relation to

Goal/No goal
Penalty/No penalty
Direct red card (not second caution)
Mistaken identity where the referee cautions or sends off the wrong player of the offending team.”

[Just_Jimmy]

This is rubbish. Refs on the line, seeing clear replays of their mistakes, they simply are not going to chose to **** opposition of the old firm over.

Also, a max of 8 games a season are vs the old firm. I'd quite happily have 30 fairer matches.Is it? Will VAR review every decision they should? Or will they just review and say nothing to see? Or not review at all?

It happens in England where they skip calls against the bigger sides. It'll be 10 times worse in Scotland. The 50/50 calls will now be 80/20 in favour of those teams.

There's no way years of corruption is suddenly going to be undone by VAR. It just won't happen.

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[gbhibby]

We have to accept VAR now no matter what our opinions are. I would prefer the refs that are watching the monitors in a remote location to be refs from abroad as I am sure many decisions by the video refs will be scrutinised by
us especially if they favour the bigot bros.

[Forza Fred]

It won't work like that in Scotland. It'll help 2, probably 3 teams. None of which will be Hibs.

Everyone else will benefit and suffer, except when playing those teams where they'll just suffer. Scottish football is bent and it'll only get worse through this.

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Understand the cynicism but if a ref DID do this, then the VAR would publicly expose his/her bias for all to see….with firm evidence rather than anecdotal stuff.

[MWHIBBIES]

Is it? Will VAR review every decision they should? Or will they just review and say nothing to see? Or not review at all?

It happens in England where they skip calls against the bigger sides. It'll be 10 times worse in Scotland. The 50/50 calls will now be 80/20 in favour of those teams.

There's no way years of corruption is suddenly going to be undone by VAR. It just won't happen.

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Do they skip decisions against the big teams? Assume you'll have dozens of examples?

Honestly, VAR is a great system. The refs are just absolutely *****. Thats the biggest problem. Really though, there is nothing other than tinfoil hat, yer da theories that suggest that it will get worse. It will quite obviously get better. If they make clearly bad decisions, there will be no option but to hold refs accountable because they cant hide behind the ''it happened quickly'' line.

[Forza Fred]

We have to accept VAR now no matter what our opinions are. I would prefer the refs that are watching the monitors in a remote location to be refs from abroad as I am sure many decisions by the video refs will be scrutinised by
us especially if they favour the bigot bros.

But the VAR operators are NOT making the decisions!

If they see something that they think should be reviewed by the referee..they relay that information through the on field ref’s earpiece…..the on field ref then comes to the touch line where a screen is….watches the replay of the incident in question…and decides if her/his original decision should stand or be changed.

It is always the match referee who decides if a decision should be changed…not the VAR operators.

[Hibbyradge]

It won't work like that in Scotland. It'll help 2, probably 3 teams. None of which will be Hibs.

Everyone else will benefit and suffer, except when playing those teams where they'll just suffer. Scottish football is bent and it'll only get worse through this.

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Once the inevitable teething problems are ironed out, it'll work fine in Scotland because referees want to make the correct decision every time.

Referees in every league in the world are influenced by the pressure from the crowd so the better supported teams often get the benefit of the doubt in marginal decisions.

Once VAR is introduced, that pressure is removed so decisions will be taken more calmly. It also removes the "He only gets to see the incident once" explanation when TV shows a decision to be wrong.

I actually think VAR will remove some of Rantic's current advantage.

However, if you're of the opinion that Scottish referees are corrupt, these arguments won't change your mind so we'll just have to wait to see what happens.

[Forza Fred]

Is it? Will VAR review every decision they should? Or will they just review and say nothing to see? Or not review at all?

It happens in England where they skip calls against the bigger sides. It'll be 10 times worse in Scotland. The 50/50 calls will now be 80/20 in favour of those teams.

There's no way years of corruption is suddenly going to be undone by VAR. It just won't happen.

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The VAR officials are human and no doubt at various times will miss something….no system involving humans is 100% foolproof.

However, with VAR footage showing the incidents, then it wouldn’t be long before the bias or even incompetence of the person involved being publicly exposed.

I have watched football under VAR for over two years now…..and yes, some decisions STILL are called wrong…but they are far fewer than pre VAR.

In fact, If the introduction in Scotland runs similar to that of Oz I expect the early complaints to be not about VAR IGNORING fouls, but of exposing normalised breaches of the laws of the game that generally fall under the ‘everyone does it’ category.

[Hibbyradge]

The VAR officials are human and no doubt at various times will miss something….no system involving humans is 100% foolproof.

However, with VAR footage showing the incidents, then it wouldn’t be long before the bias or even incompetence of the person involved being publicly exposed.

I have watched football under VAR for over two years now…..and yes, some decisions STILL are called wrong…but they are far fewer than pre VAR.

In fact, If the introduction in Scotland runs similar to that of Oz I expect the early complaints to be not about VAR IGNORING fouls, but of exposing normalised breaches of the laws of the game that generally fall under the ‘everyone does it’ category.

Do you remember when Celtc fans hired a private detective to follow a referee, Dallas maybe? They thought he was deliberately favouring Rangers and hoped to catch him doing something like going on a lodge, orange or masonic, but nothing came of it.

Had VAR been in operation, the controversial decisions which led to that ridiculous action, would either have been reversed, or proven to be correct.

[easty]

But if it’s a foul, soft or otherwise, it’s still a foul isn’t it?

Yeah, which is why I said VAR wouldn't overrule it.

[Sioux]

Is it? Will VAR review every decision they should? Or will they just review and say nothing to see? Or not review at all?

It happens in England where they skip calls against the bigger sides. It'll be 10 times worse in Scotland. The 50/50 calls will now be 80/20 in favour of those teams.

There's no way years of corruption is suddenly going to be undone by VAR. It just won't happen.

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Is this a fact, or evidence provided by the likes of people on twitter?

[easty]

Do you remember when Celtc fans hired a private detective to follow a referee, Dallas maybe? They thought he was deliberately favouring Rangers and hoped to catch him doing something like going on a lodge, orange or masonic, but nothing came of it.

Had VAR been in operation, the controversial decisions which led to that ridiculous action, would either have been reversed, or proven to be correct.

And they'd still have claimed he was at it, and still hired a private dick.

[Chorley Hibee]

When will VAR be used? As I understand it every goal will be checked, every red card and offsides. Are there other occasions?

When Rangers are losing.

[Hibbyradge]

And they'd still have claimed he was at it, and still hired a private dick.

:hilarious

They're bams, right enough, but I doubt they'd have done that if his decisions were proved to be correct.

[Since452]

St Johnstone are the worst team in the league for time wasting, play acting etc. Last thing we need is VAR checks. An early Hibs goal should help.

[Forza Fred]

Yeah, which is why I said VAR wouldn't overrule it.

Apologies mate, I have re read your post and I obviously misinterpreted it!

I need to install some kind of .net VAR system to ensure I get the posts on here right!

[BoomtownHibees]

St Johnstone are the worst team in the league for time wasting, play acting etc. Last thing we need is VAR checks. An early Hibs goal should help.

Going to take ma sleeping bag just incase

[gbhibby]

New songs required for VAR.

[overdrive]

New songs required for VAR.

Who’s the b****** in the booth?

[gbhibby]

Who’s the b****** in the booth?

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[gbhibby]

Let the fun begin next week. Players will need to be clued up on this especially with offsides. Hopefully will get rid of trial by Soccerscene.

[Monts]

New songs required for VAR.

Theres a VAR man sitting on his arse
He doesn't know the rules and hes made the game a farce

[Silky]

Theres a VAR man sitting on his arse
He doesn't know the rules and hes made the game a farce

:greengrin

There's a VAR man sitting in his sash
Penalty for Rangers, now pass my bag of cash!

[JeMeSouviens]

:greengrin

There's a VAR man sitting in his sash
Penalty for Rangers, now pass my bag of cash!

There's a VAR man, who isn't really here
He knows whatever happened, it's a pen for Tavernier.

[Eyrie]

New songs required for VAR.

If the decision goes against us, it'll be

VAR!
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing,
VAR!

[gbhibby]

These VAR songs are superb.👍👍

[PaulSmith]

This weekend could be one of the last that referees are swayed by the crowd or the threat of offending either of the OF.. one can only hope.

[007]

Who’s the b****** in the booth?

😂😂😂

[flash]

Well I reckon 2 of Celtics goals were offside yesterday so VAR might come in handy after all.

[JohnM1875]

Well I reckon 2 of Celtics goals were offside yesterday so VAR might come in handy after all.

First one for sure. Quite clearly offside in the build up.

[JimBHibees]

First one for sure. Quite clearly offside in the build up.

First one was miles off in build up. Ridiculous decision by stand side linesman

[PatHead]

IFAB Laws of the Game 5.4 relating to VAR states that it will only be used in relation to

“A clear and obvious error, or serious missed incident in relation to

Goal/No goal
Penalty/No penalty
Direct red card (not second caution)
Mistaken identity where the referee cautions or sends off the wrong player of the offending team.”

Can I just clarify this in relation to the Porteous incident in the Motherwell game?

If the referee had been called back to check the penalty after giving the Motherwell player his second yellow and decided it was not a penalty, could he overturn the second yellow card given to the Motherwell player or would the player still remain sent off ?

BTW I still think it was a penalty, just using this as an example.

[Irish_Steve]

There's a VAR man staring at his screen
F88k all decisions to a team who plays in green

[Alfred E Newman]

Can I just clarify this in relation to the Porteous incident in the Motherwell game?

If the referee had been called back to check the penalty after giving the Motherwell player his second yellow and decided it was not a penalty, could he overturn the second yellow card given to the Motherwell player or would the player still remain sent off ?

BTW I still think it was a penalty, just using this as an example.

I think you are getting confused with the Aberdeen game but if VAR says no foul then no second booking surely.

[PatHead]

I think you are getting confused with the Aberdeen game but if VAR says no foul then no second booking surely.
I was and that is the logical conclusion but this is the SFA!

Anyone know for sure?

[Irish_Steve]

In that occasion, if he overturns the penalty, it's because he doesn't think a foul occurred. The penalty gets wiped out as does the yellow card given for the "foul" so the Aberdeen player would stay on the pitch

We still would have beaten them anyway

[Tyler Durden]

There aren’t any additional cameras at the games are there? Kenny Miller suggested not on Sportscene last night.

So it’s not really going to help on basic factual calls like offside and goal line decisions.

Usual half measures in the amateur Scottish set up

[H18 SFR]

:greengrin

There's a VAR man sitting in his sash
Penalty for Rangers, now pass my bag of cash!

Amazing

[green day]

There aren’t any additional cameras at the games are there? Kenny Miller suggested not on Sportscene last night.

So it’s not really going to help on basic factual calls like offside and goal line decisions.

Usual half measures in the amateur Scottish set up

Yes there are. Kenny is talking out his erchie.

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/var-goes-live-for-hibernian-v-st-johnstone-on-21-october/

[GreenCastle]

Yes there are. Kenny is talking out his erchie.

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/var-goes-live-for-hibernian-v-st-johnstone-on-21-october/

I heard it was the cheaper VAR version with less cameras.

Article says 6 cameras in Scotland.

Anyone know how many England use ?

[green day]

I heard it was the cheaper VAR version with less cameras.

Article says 6 cameras in Scotland.

Anyone know how many England use ?

I think England, Germany and Spain (maybe?) use more cameras and GLT in every ground, but they have money to burn - most leagues seem to use the same sort of system we are getting and utilise the hawkeye tech to determine the "line" for offsides etc.

Its cheaper, but doesnt mean its necessarily garbage (and I say that as someone not a fan of VAR).

[CallumLaidlaw]

I think England, Germany and Spain (maybe?) use more cameras and GLT in every ground, but they have money to burn - most leagues seem to use the same sort of system we are getting and utilise the hawkeye tech to determine the "line" for offsides etc.

Its cheaper, but doesnt mean its necessarily garbage (and I say that as someone not a fan of VAR).

Think hawkeye is just for GLT at the minute. Offsides they still pretty much insert the lines by hand.

Think the plan is to make it automated eventually tho.


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[greenlex]

I heard it was the cheaper VAR version with less cameras.

Article says 6 cameras in Scotland.

Anyone know how many England use ?
It’s 6 more than we use now.

[Tyler Durden]

It’s 6 more than we use now.

It’s not - it’s an increase to a minimum of 6 cameras

And no goal line tech. Surely that should have been the priority

[green day]

It’s not - it’s an increase to a minimum of 6 cameras

And no goal line tech. Surely that should have been the priority

Most leagues use the VAR cameras and hawkeye technology for goal line tech, as will we.

There are very few that have goal line cameras. We have them at Hampden for intnl matches, Ibrox and Parkhead (presumably for Champs league) only.

[greenlex]

It’s not - it’s an increase to a minimum of 6 cameras

And no goal line tech. Surely that should have been the priority

Aye it is. We currently use zero cameras. There is no VAR till Friday.

[gbhibby]

Wonder where the pitchside monitor will be situated.

[GreenCastle]

Aye it is. We currently use zero cameras. There is no VAR till Friday.

Well we don’t get VAR till Friday officially but clubs use various cameras for match analysis and TV companies have cameras for highlights / live games.

The worst thing about VAR for me is the fans in the stadium don’t see the replays and have no idea what’s been looked at while folk at home get the replays.

The sooner they show the replays and give microphones to refs the better so we can hear decisions. Would also stop managers like Klopp acting like he did yesterday and set a better example for lower down the leagues / grassroots.

[PatHead]

Wonder where the pitchside monitor will be situated.

In the home dugout at Ibrox and Parkhead

[greenlex]

In the home dugout at Ibrox and Parkhead

And in front of the south stand at ER.

[Jones28]

Wonder where the pitchside monitor will be situated.

In front of Section 43.

[gbhibby]

Wonder where the pitchside monitor will be situated.
Will Tinycastle have any space. They will probably have to put it in the press area.

[greenlex]

Will Tinycastle have any space. They will probably have to put it in the press area.
Surely don’t want it getting wet FFS!!!

[MKHIBEE]

There aren’t any additional cameras at the games are there? Kenny Miller suggested not on Sportscene last night.

So it’s not really going to help on basic factual calls like offside and goal line decisions.

Usual half measures in the amateur Scottish set up
There is going to be 6 cameras for VAR at each game

[gbhibby]

Surely don’t want it getting wet FFS!!!
🤣
It'll have to be the hotel room then.

[Alfred E Newman]

Surely don’t want it getting wet FFS!!!

They’ll stick a bin bag over it. That’s what big clubs do.

[Irish_Steve]

Wonder where the pitchside monitor will be situated.

Possibly pitch side but I’m just guessing ;)

[Nicho87]

Copland road

Penalty rangers

[Hibbyradge]

Possibly pitch side but I’m just guessing ;)

:hilarious

[gbhibby]

Possibly pitch side but I’m just guessing ;)
😆
Was wondering as you see them in the players tunnel in some stadiums.

[gbhibby]

https://images.app.goo.gl/cfcEK4Xq9oedcSEE6
This is the new VAR room


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[Dmas]

There is going to be 6 cameras for VAR at each game

That must be the normal amount at games televised though is it? I don’t think sky for example are allowed to show angles that aren’t available to VAR

[Kato]

Will Tinycastle have any space. They will probably have to put it in the press area.Don't worry. It'll be the bigliest monitor in the history of VAR. Their monitor will have all the other clubs envying with seethe.

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[jacomo]

I despise VAR and regret it coming to Scottish football. What we need is better referees.

[Hibbyradge]

I despise VAR and regret it coming to Scottish football. What we need is better referees.

Every football fan in every league criticises their referees.

They're human. They make mistakes. VAR reduces the number of those mistakes and, by definition, makes the referees better which is what everyone wants

[Silky]

Every football fan in every league criticises their referees.

They're human. They make mistakes. VAR reduces the number of those mistakes and, by definition, makes the referees better which is what everyone wants

Ref on Friday is Kevin Clancy. VAR will be busy!

[Scouse Hibee]

Every football fan in every league criticises their referees.

They're human. They make mistakes. VAR reduces the number of those mistakes and, by definition, makes the referees better which is what everyone wants

Whilst I agree that VAR should improve the game,I also hate the amount of time before a decision is made and the waiting to celebrate a “goal” you scored several minutes earlier in some cases. I’m not sure it actually makes the referees better either, it highlights their mistakes or in many instances reviews incidents that they had little chance of seeing during the game. The amount of dubious VAR decisions that bewilders everyone are also another sour point for me.

[Donegal Hibby]

Did anyone see the incident in the Leeds v arsenal game I'm sure it was the linesman that told the referee it was a penalty to Leeds and the arsenal player got a red card too when it was clear as day that Bamford had barged into the back of the arsenal guy at the start . Thankfully referee checked Var and the right decision was made . Just one incident that shows Var can be a good thing for the game .Still wondering how the linesman could make such a horrendous bad call on it though .

[MKHIBEE]

https://images.app.goo.gl/cfcEK4Xq9oedcSEE6
This is the new VAR room


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I need a shower after opening that

[overdrive]

Ref on Friday is Kevin Clancy. VAR will be busy!

Interesting that they don’t state the names of the VAR alongside the referee and assistant referees on the SFA website for matches

[greenlex]

Interesting that they don’t state the names of the VAR alongside the referee and assistant referees on the SFA website for matches
I’m sure I read that it’s Willie Collum. Can’t remember where tho.

[zitelli62]

So do we have goal line technology or just var surely they go hand in hand.

[eastterrace]

So do we have goal line technology or just var surely they go hand in hand.no goal line technology I believe just var

[Donegal Hibby]

Lee Johnson issues ' Be very careful ' warning for Friday ' in EEN.