10 league games in and no Hibs striker has scored.

[Spike Mandela]

I know a debatable decision cost the Ukranian lad a goal tonight but so far into a season and no striker has scored a goal, that must be unprecedented, surely?

64% possession tonight, 18 shots away from home, we’re making chances.

Why aren’t our strikers scoring?

[Alfred E Newman]

I know a debatable decision cost the Ukranian lad a goal tonight but so far into a season and no striker has scored a goal, that must be unprecedented, surely?

64% possession tonight, 18 shots away from home, we’re making chances.

Why aren’t our strikers scoring?
Simple, they are not good enough.

[AL-Qaholik]

Simple, they are not good enough.

This

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Skewed by the fact we played five games before Mckirdy and big myk joined but understand the frustrations

Mckirdy really irks me for some reason. Might be the hair, and the really low socks or his demeanour I dunno. We can see myk putting in a graft and linking really well

[Real Emerald]

I know a debatable decision cost the Ukranian lad a goal tonight but so far into a season and no striker has scored a goal, that must be unprecedented, surely?

64% possession tonight, 18 shots away from home, we’re making chances.

Why aren’t our strikers scoring?

The way I see it is we don’t really have strikers bar Nisbet but forwards. Take Boyle out (he was rotten tonight) and we are struggling to find natural goal scorers. We’re not the only team with that problem though.

[Unseen work]

I know it’s irrelevant and we don’t know how much the option to buy was, but I would have really liked to have see Jasper in this team with the way we play.

Youan has attributes that fear teams like his pace but his touch, passing, shooting and decision making is poor.

[Sir David Gray]

The lack of goalscoring from our strikers is becoming a bit of a concern.

Obviously Kukharevych should have got off the mark tonight but in general it is a very poor statistic.

[Alfred E Newman]

Excluding Boyle, the only other player that looks like an instinctive finisher is Campbell. He isn’t the quickest but might be worth pushing him further forward, he can’t be any less effective than Youan.

[neil7908]

I rate Kukharevych from what I have seen so far but Youan has been disappointing after a decent start. Campbell has done well this year but we are so reliant on Boyle.

The recruitment team have found some good players but at the same time we have an awful lot who simply aren't good enough.

If press reports are to be believed we've spent over £500k on Melkerson and McKirdy, a lot of money for a club of our size for two guys who don't look anywhere near what we need.

[Jones28]

That’s pretty damning. We can have no complaints when we lose games like tonight if we can’t finish the chances we create.

[Unseen work]

If Melkersen was to play centrally he would score imo, especially with the amount of chances we create.

The question is would the team still look as fluid as it does? Kukharevych leads the line very well and gives defenders a hard game.

[#2 Double Tap]

I know it’s irrelevant and we don’t know how much the option to buy was, but I would have really liked to have see Jasper in this team with the way we play.

Youan has attributes that fear teams like his pace but his touch, passing, shooting and decision making is poor.

Jasper was rubbish. Youan looked really rubbish tonight.

[JohnM1875]

I rate Kukharevych from what I have seen so far but Youan has been disappointing after a decent start. Campbell has done well this year but we are so reliant on Boyle.

The recruitment team have found some good players but at the same time we have an awful lot who simply aren't good enough.

If press reports are to be believed we've spent over £500k on Melkerson and McKirdy, a lot of money for a club of our size for two guys who don't look anywhere near what we need.

I'd actually forgot about Melkersen. He's 19 though so plenty time for him to show his worth.

[Northernhibee]

McKirdy looked OK tonight I thought. Was at least getting shots away. Kukharevych should have been off the mark, Youan is murder.

[Unseen work]

Jasper was rubbish. Youan looked really rubbish tonight.

So he’d be an upgrade?😅

[Hibees1973]

Cannot criticise the money invested in the squad.

Melkersen & McKirdy cost an estimated £600k. But is the Norwegian 2nd division (where Melkersen was playing, he couldn't get into the Bodo/Glimt 1st team) and the 4th tier in England, Swindon, in McKirdy's case really where we should be spending this kind of money.

They both seem like expensive punts to me. Thought Melkersen looked promising to begin with. I sympathise with his health issues but he has been here nearly a year and not appearing anywhere near to being a first team starter. Surely as his price he is not deemed a development player by Hibs.

McKirdy looks lighweight and will find it difficult physically in the SPFL.

[Sir David Gray]

If Melkersen was to play centrally he would score imo, especially with the amount of chances we create.

The question is would the team still look as fluid as it does? Kukharevych leads the line very well and gives defenders a hard game.

I honestly don't think Melkersen is anywhere near ready to play first team football at our level.

[#2 Double Tap]

So he’d be an upgrade?😅

Ha.

like for like, both have failings but youan probly shades it for me.

[Onceinawhile]

Mckirdy is a ball greedy wee nob.

If he was half as good as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as good as he is.

Youan is not a striker.

Melkerson 2 goals in 25(?).

#99 is our best hope. He seems decent, but should've had at least 2 tonight.

[#2 Double Tap]

Cannot criticise the money invested in the squad.

Melkersen & McKirdy cost an estimated £600k. But is the Norwegian 2nd division (where Melkersen was playing, he couldn't get into the Bodo/Glimt 1st team) and the 4th tier in England, Swindon, in McKirdy's case really where we should be spending this kind of money.

They both seem like expensive punts to me. Thought Melkersen looked promising to begin with. I sympathise with his health issues but he has been here nearly a year and not appearing anywhere near to being a first team starter. Surely as his price he is not deemed a development player by Hibs.

McKirdy looks lighweight and will find it difficult physically in the SPFL.


Are you reading my mind or something.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Cannot criticise the money invested in the squad.

Melkersen & McKirdy cost an estimated £600k. But is the Norwegian 2nd division (where Melkersen was playing, he couldn't get into the Bodo/Glimt 1st team) and the 4th tier in England, Swindon, in McKirdy's case really where we should be spending this kind of money.

They both seem like expensive punts to me. Thought Melkersen looked promising to begin with. I sympathise with his health issues but he has been here nearly a year and not appearing anywhere near to being a first team starter. Surely as his price he is not deemed a development player by Hibs.

McKirdy looks lighweight and will find it difficult physically in the SPFL.

Both look ridiculous wastes of money if we are honest.

[Northernhibee]

Both look ridiculous wastes of money if we are honest.

Melkersen certainly, the boy has absolutely nothing to offer a club like Hibs. Can't say "he's young, give him time", he's had the best part of a year and doesn't have the strength, pace, technical ability, off the ball positioning, and going by how he's missed a couple of absolute sitters doesn't have the finishing ability either.

McKirdy might come good, but the LJ comments about having to "nail" him concern me. I did think he looked OK tonight and showed some endeavour to do something.

It's beginning to feel that the recruitment strategy is to throw as much of the proverbial at the wall and hoping some of it sticks as for the sheer volume of players we've signed in the summer, we feel very light.

[HendoDelivered]

I believe when Youan and Myko in particular (hopefully McKirdy too) get that first goal, we will see a massive boost in confidence and a goal run on the cards. It’s defo coming!

[bigwheel]

Both look ridiculous wastes of money if we are honest.

Thought that was McKirdy’s first decent minutes for us ..was much more involved and contribution useful

[Heisenberg]

Thought that was McKirdy’s first decent minutes for us ..was much more involved and contribution useful

Same here. A bizarre moment to choose to brand him as a ridiculous waste of money.

[Dunbar Hibee]

Melkersen certainly, the boy has absolutely nothing to offer a club like Hibs. Can't say "he's young, give him time", he's had the best part of a year and doesn't have the strength, pace, technical ability, off the ball positioning, and going by how he's missed a couple of absolute sitters doesn't have the finishing ability either.

McKirdy might come good, but the LJ comments about having to "nail" him concern me. I did think he looked OK tonight and showed some endeavour to do something.

It's beginning to feel that the recruitment strategy is to throw as much of the proverbial at the wall and hoping some of it sticks as for the sheer volume of players we've signed in the summer, we feel very light.

He is young, and he does need time…

[Northernhibee]

He is young, and he does need time…

He's had plenty of time and both Jamie Gullan and Oli Shaw showed a ton more potential at his age and ultimately weren't good enough.

[Dunbar Hibee]

He's had plenty of time and both Jamie Gullan and Oli Shaw showed a ton more potential at his age and ultimately weren't good enough.

Absolute nonsense in my opinion. Time will tell.

[JamesHFC]

Time to start McKirdy.

[B.H.F.C]

Thought that was McKirdy’s first decent minutes for us ..was much more involved and contribution useful

Agree, I thought he looked much sharper. Bad decision when he should have squared instead of passing but I thought he was decent.

We really need our forwards scoring now though. It’ll be the difference between finishing third or fifth IMO. It feels a bit like it’s back to needing Boyle to do something. And if he’s not at it, like tonight, you’re wondering who will do something in the final third.

[NAE NOOKIE]

I had already posted the same as the OP on the matchday thread before I saw this thread.

He's absolutely bang on. 10 games without a forward scoring is absolutely incredible, FFS for them to not even be credited with a goal from a deflection or something is beyond belief in 15 hours of football, plus added on time. As I said on the matchday thread I was going to post my worries about this after the Motherwell game .. I wish I had now because after tonight's defeat it looks a bit knee jerk .... which it isn't.

As things stand if it wasn't for Porteous, Campbell and Boyle tonight would have been a battle to avoid bottom spot not an attempt to cement ourselves in 3rd place, which we failed to do against a team with one win all season with a defence so bad the SPFL could have been investigating betting patterns in Dundee.

I don't know what the answer is, but the tropes of .... 'that lad Youan looks like he might have goals in him' ... 'Melkerson has good movement' ... 'Kukharevych looks a player' ... etc etc are getting a bit tired now ... As things stand, if Rocky is fit again I wouldn't be against him partnering Hanlon and Ryan Porteous being given a go at centre forward ... lets face it, how could he be worse than what we have and at least he has two goals already this season.

[RossScott1991]

A fit Kevin Nisbet will score loads in this team

[allezsauzee]

Time to start McKirdy.

THIS! He was good when he came on tonight. Plenty movement and some nice touches. Big Mykola was excellent tonight with the exception of not taking his good chance in the 2nd half. Caused their defence plenty problems and had what looked a perfectly good goal chalked off for a phantom foul. A wee bit of patience needed here.

[heretoday]

A fit Kevin Nisbet will score loads in this team

Let's hope so!

[Boyle89]

Outside the box youan is a completely different player, though tonight was probably his 2nd worst game after buddies away. When he gets in to dangerous positions he almost always seems to hesitate then pick the wrong option. Starting to look like he'll never score.

Melkersen is young and I believe if played through the middle would actually score goals with his movement.

Mckirdy looked quite good tonight with a few flicks and lay offs but thats not what we bought him for. Again poor decision making when in dangerous positions.

Kuharevich well. My god what was he doing at that 1 on 1. Maybe the fact he hasn't scored is playing on his mind, as it probably is with all the strikers. Felt he should've gone down at the weekend and gone down tonight when on both occasions he had his man all over his back. Make the ref make a decision. Think hes trying too hard.

[Donegal Hibby]

Time to start McKirdy.
Mckirdy might become a great Hibs player but starting him fills me with fear as he's constantly mouthing at the referees . It's going to cost us yet I fear .

[Criswell]

10 games without a "striker" scoring is an appalling stat. Recruitment has just not been good enough.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

All the front men just now are inexperienced with the exception of Boyle.

We shouldn’t have 3/4 at the same time all trying to kick-start their careers, vying for a starting slot.

Hopefully getting McGeady and Nisbet back helps but might be too late by the time we start finding a bit of form up front.

[Donegal Hibby]

10 games without a "striker" scoring is an appalling stat. Recruitment has just not been good enough.
Only a week ago we were happy with it . Are we wanting Ian Gordan gone again ?

[JammyDoidger]

Play Mckirdy and that'll change, can guarantee if he played the same amount of minutes as Youan you'd see a difference there.

[matty_f]

Only a week ago we were happy with it . Are we wanting Ian Gordan gone again ?

Yeah, we’ve lost now so something about recruitment, something about partnerships/sponsors, something about big screens and probably something about culture.

[Smartie]

I'd certainly be laying off Melkerson and McKirdy. McKirdy is getting used to playing at a higher level, as is Melkerson. That's not going to come overnight.

I'm not convinced Melkerson is yet of the required quality but he may come good over time. It's too early to say with McKirdy.

The forwards have been a bit underwhelming (although I've been impressed with Kurahevich's hold up play) and it's a bit weird that we've got so many of them, results have been decent yet we don't have any firing on all cylinders. I'm actually looking forward to Bradley coming back, he'll surely be ready to at least challenge for a place. And whilst I wasn't exactly blown away by McKay at the start of last season, he surely can't be miles behind our other reserve wide forwards at present.

[007]

I know a debatable decision cost the Ukranian lad a goal tonight but so far into a season and no striker has scored a goal, that must be unprecedented, surely?

64% possession tonight, 18 shots away from home, we’re making chances.

Why aren’t our strikers scoring?

We definitely aren't putting away our chances often enough.

Which players are you counting as strikers?

[OldEast]

Same here. A bizarre moment to choose to brand him as a ridiculous waste of money.

Absolutely but that's what happens here. Especially after a defeat. McKirdy needs to start the next few games.

[OldEast]

I had already posted the same as the OP on the matchday thread before I saw this thread.

He's absolutely bang on. 10 games without a forward scoring is absolutely incredible, FFS for them to not even be credited with a goal from a deflection or something is beyond belief in 15 hours of football, plus added on time. As I said on the matchday thread I was going to post my worries about this after the Motherwell game .. I wish I had now because after tonight's defeat it looks a bit knee jerk .... which it isn't.

As things stand if it wasn't for Porteous, Campbell and Boyle tonight would have been a battle to avoid bottom spot not an attempt to cement ourselves in 3rd place, which we failed to do against a team with one win all season with a defence so bad the SPFL could have been investigating betting patterns in Dundee.

I don't know what the answer is, but the tropes of .... 'that lad Youan looks like he might have goals in him' ... 'Melkerson has good movement' ... 'Kukharevych looks a player' ... etc etc are getting a bit tired now ... As things stand, if Rocky is fit again I wouldn't be against him partnering Hanlon and Ryan Porteous being given a go at centre forward ... lets face it, how could he be worse than what we have and at least he has two goals already this season.

John Charles, Paul Warhurst, Derek Johnstone.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Same here. A bizarre moment to choose to brand him as a ridiculous waste of money.

Not branding, merely commenting that on the evidence so far the pair of them "look" very poor value for the outlay. Of course, looks may be deceptive & both may go on to have great careers & prove to have been bargain buys, we will see.

[HoboHarry]

10 games without a "striker" scoring is an appalling stat. Recruitment has just not been good enough.

Christ almighty, that's about as s***e an attempt I've seen at trolling as I've seen in ages. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.........

[Hermit Crab]

I know a debatable decision cost the Ukranian lad a goal tonight but so far into a season and no striker has scored a goal, that must be unprecedented, surely?

64% possession tonight, 18 shots away from home, we’re making chances.

Why aren’t our strikers scoring?

A lot of those ‘chances’ ended up in row Z though. Shockingly bad finishing from everyone in a hibs jersey tonight.

[Hermit Crab]

Mckirdy is a ball greedy wee nob.

If he was half as good as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as good as he is.

Youan is not a striker.

Melkerson 2 goals in 25(?).

#99 is our best hope. He seems decent, but should've had at least 2 tonight.

He’s scored what? 5 goals in about 60 games?

[Since452]

Absolutely but that's what happens here. Especially after a defeat. McKirdy needs to start the next few games.

Wouldn't be starting him at Celtic park. Not a chance.

[Forza Fred]

Time to start McKirdy.

Agree.

Some are already writing him off but he hasn’t even started a match for us.

I thought he would have replaced Youan for the Arabs game, but pretty sure it will happen for Sellick.

BTW…Youan didn’t play as a striker last season when out on loan…he was in the midfield.

[OldEast]

Wouldn't be starting him at Celtic park. Not a chance.

We'll see. LJ spoke well of him after the game.

[JimBHibees]

Thought that was McKirdy’s first decent minutes for us ..was much more involved and contribution useful

Thought he looked very good keen quick and helped us keep the pressure on them. Clearly should have passed when he shot but just showing how keen he is to do well imo.

[JimBHibees]

Only a week ago we were happy with it . Are we wanting Ian Gordan gone again ?

Yep the recruitment bad motor getting fired up as we speak :greengrin

[MWHIBBIES]

If Youan and Mckirdy are strikers then so is Boyle

[JimBHibees]

Yeah, we’ve lost now so something about recruitment, something about partnerships/sponsors, something about big screens and probably something about culture.

:greengrin

[Tyler Durden]

10 games without a forward scoring? It’s not true is it?

We generally play 3 forwards and Boyle has 3 goals. We then have Myk and McKirdy who are just getting started. Big Myk looks very good and scored last night.

Really people are criticising Youan. He played as a 9 for the first 5/6 games and he doesn’t look a finisher. But if that goals stands last night then he has 4 assists in 10 games which isn’t bad.

It’s a team game. We wanted more goals from midfield and we’ve had. We look more dangerous at set pieces now too.

Goals for our central striker will come but we’re in a good place between Myk and Nisbet soon enough.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Jasper was rubbish. Youan looked really rubbish tonight.

Jasper was an atrocious player imo.

Thank **** we never signed him.

[blackpoolhibs]

Thought that was McKirdy’s first decent minutes for us ..was much more involved and contribution useful


Same here. A bizarre moment to choose to brand him as a ridiculous waste of money.

:agree: He does need to look up more and pick out a team mate, but i think we could clearly see a player there last night who's only going to get better the more he plays.

[Mcbizz1998]

If Melkersen was to play centrally he would score imo, especially with the amount of chances we create.

The question is would the team still look as fluid as it does? Kukharevych leads the line very well and gives defenders a hard game.

Agree. I’ve seen enough of Melkersen to suggest he is a natural finisher if given chances.

[bigwheel]

:agree: He does need to look up more and pick out a team mate, but i think we could clearly see a player there last night who's only going to get better the more he plays.

It was the first time last night that he looked like a starter for me .

[18Craig75]

We just need to persevere. It’s a totally new forward line, even the subs coming on are new.

Myko is the real deal, covers the ground well, holds the ball in and has good feet. Really feel for him having that goal wrongly disallowed - if that had stood then he buries the 1v1 first time, that’s what confidence does.

Youann is the type of player that already probably has a class highlights real from his time at Hibs. Unfortunately key contributions have been lacking, another that’s a bit low on confidence and trying too hard, making bad decisions. I think a game or two out the team might help - but ironically I think his attributes are well suited to CP.

McKirdy - Hibs fans love a bit of a Bam, and no doubt that’s what he is. I feel he needs to tone it down a touch though - he’s at a big club now, professionalism levels need to increase. Quite liked what I saw last night to be honest, covers the ground well and has a good strike on him. Definitely should have passed to Henderson - but this is a thread about our lack of goals from our strikers so it’s hard to then criticise them taking shots on.

Melkersen - a kid, should probably be compared to O’Connor and Laidlaw. Unfortunately for him he came with a bit of fanfare. Would like to see him in a 2 with Myko, they’d chase defenders to death and I’d fancy them to get on the end of something.

Boyle - couple games off the pace now, no doubt teams will be doubling up on him to nullify his threat. Probably subconsciously has the World Cup on his mind as well. It only takes one key contribution from him though and it’s a goal/penalty/sending off.

If I were a coach I’d have them all staying back after training, 1 hour straight of quick sharp, instinctive finishing practice. Every day until Saturday.

I think we’ll come good in the forward areas. Especially when Nisbet is back.

[Just_Jimmy]

It's been an issue since the first game of the season. We create chances and we get shots.

I said to my mate after St Johnstone on first day we'd had 15 shots and 4 on target or something. We scored with a scrappy goal. I remember highlighting it and saying it'll need to improve.

It cost us at Livingston a few weeks later. It's again cost us tonight.

The shots need to turn into shots on target, and the shots on target need to become goals.

Another issue is spread of goals, which has been a problem for seasons. We simply don't get enough from around the team. We rely on 1 or 2 players.

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[Steve20]

Our strikers aren’t good enough. If they were, they’d at least score some goals. Porteous isn’t going to pop up with goals all the time to cover up average performances with wins like at the weekend.

Last night we actually played some decent stuff and even one half decent striker and we win that game. So yes recruitment has been poor and I’m surprised people thought otherwise last week.

[Since452]

Did Boyle not score against County?

[Spike Mandela]

If Youan and Mckirdy are strikers then so is Boyle

I know what you mean but just going by the clubs own website having Boyle listed as a midfielder.

[Pretty Boy]

I know what you mean but just going by the clubs own website having Boyle listed as a midfielder.

You have to also consider that since coming back Boyle has played almost exclusively on the right of the 3. Even if you do count Boyle as a striker then it's still a pretty damning assesment of the others. One of our big issues prior to Boyle leaving 1st time around was the opposition knew stopping Boyle meant you had a good chance of stopping Hibs.

Melkerson, Youan, Bojang and Kuharevich have all played as the central striker. 2 of them starting there regularly this season and one played a lot of games without scoring a whole lot last season. I'm not really counting McKirdy as he's only made fleeting appearances. It wouldn't surprise me to see us try to change the shape a bit in the coming weeks to get him playing off Kuharevich. I think that's something that could work but it would require balancing the rest of the team and shuffling something about that up until the final 3rd is working well.

[Hibeesforever]

Wingers don't get to the byeline, that is why the strikers have not scored any goals....

[Tyler Durden]

You have to also consider that since coming back Boyle has played almost exclusively on the right of the 3. Even if you do count Boyle as a striker then it's still a pretty damning assesment of the others. One of our big issues prior to Boyle leaving 1st time around was the opposition knew stopping Boyle meant you had a good chance of stopping Hibs.

Melkerson, Youan, Bojang and Kuharevich have all played as the central striker. 2 of them starting there regularly this season and one played a lot of games without scoring a whole lot last season. I'm not really counting McKirdy as he's only made fleeting appearances. It wouldn't surprise me to see us try to change the shape a bit in the coming weeks to get him playing off Kuharevich. I think that's something that could work but it would require balancing the rest of the team and shuffling something about that up until the final 3rd is working well.

Melkersen and Bojang probably have a combined 60 minutes as a central striker in the league.

Kuharevich has played 4 games now and he looks good, he will score goals at this level. Longer term I think we'll see McKirdy or Nisbet playing off the left and getting close to Kuharevich when we're attacking.

We had a problem with our forward options on the 30th August. The deadline day signings solve that issue IMO.

[MWHIBBIES]

Wingers don't get to the byeline, that is why the strikers have not scored any goals....

Assume this is a joke? We've scored multiple goals this season from wingers and fullbacks getting to the byline.

[Tyler Durden]

Our strikers aren’t good enough. If they were, they’d at least score some goals. Porteous isn’t going to pop up with goals all the time to cover up average performances with wins like at the weekend.

Last night we actually played some decent stuff and even one half decent striker and we win that game. So yes recruitment has been poor and I’m surprised people thought otherwise last week.

Good to see you back to your old self Steve. "One half decent striker".

We'll be sitting 3rd or 4th after the first round of games, after trying to integrate about 10 new players. Not good enough for some clearly.

[Brightside]

I honestly don't think Melkersen is anywhere near ready to play first team football at our level.

He looks much further forward than Mckirdy.

[SaulGoodman]

Our strikers aren’t good enough. If they were, they’d at least score some goals. Porteous isn’t going to pop up with goals all the time to cover up average performances with wins like at the weekend.

Last night we actually played some decent stuff and even one half decent striker and we win that game. So yes recruitment has been poor and I’m surprised people thought otherwise last week.

I’m surprised you didn’t share your opinion last week then. Although we had just won so I suppose it wouldn’t have been right for you to post.

Good to see you again after your 4 game exodus.

[Hibee Daft]

Youan and Myk both with assists, Mckirdy should have a few assists aswell if he passed instead of shooting from tight angles.

If our strikers are racking up assists instead of goals it doesnt worry me

[chrisski33]

I know a debatable decision cost the Ukranian lad a goal tonight but so far into a season and no striker has scored a goal, that must be unprecedented, surely?

64% possession tonight, 18 shots away from home, we’re making chances.

Why aren’t our strikers scoring?

Maybe the coaching department/coach needs looked at?

[BS44]

I know a debatable decision cost the Ukranian lad a goal tonight but so far into a season and no striker has scored a goal, that must be unprecedented, surely?

64% possession tonight, 18 shots away from home, we’re making chances.

Why aren’t our strikers scoring?

Has Boyle not scored?

[Spike Mandela]

Has Boyle not scored?

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/squads/mens-first-team

[MWHIBBIES]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/squads/mens-first-team

Daft way to look at it. If Youan and McKirdy are being counted, so should Boyle. He has been playing on the right of a front 3. Certainly more forward than midfielder.

[Sir David Gray]

He looks much further forward than Mckirdy.

I can't really agree or disagree with that at the moment as I haven't seen enough of McKirdy yet to be able to form an opinion of him either way.

Melkersen has played more than 20 times for us now and I don't think he's good enough at the moment for our first team.

Melkersen is considerably younger than McKirdy though so there's time on his side.

[B.H.F.C]

I know Melkersen has been here a bit now, but he’s played a total of 1193 competitive minutes for us, which is hardly anything in the grand scheme of things.

I think there is loads of potential there. The fact we paid a big fee, which isn’t his fault, meant expectations were sky high. I think there is still a good chance of him going on to be a good player for us.

[overdrive]

Mckirdy might become a great Hibs player but starting him fills me with fear as he's constantly mouthing at the referees . It's going to cost us yet I fear .

Yep I’m more worried with his constant moaning at refs then his all round play. He was barely on the park and a teammate was having to pull him away from the ref. Also straight onto social media ripping into the officials too.

[WhileTheChief..]

Yeah, we’ve lost now so something about recruitment, something about partnerships/sponsors, something about big screens and probably something about culture.

Recruitment is a huge issue. Of course we will discuss it.

You can skip past the threads or posts without commenting if you don’t like it.

[BoomtownHibees]

Yep I’m more worried with his constant moaning at refs then his all round play. He was barely on the park and a teammate was having to pull him away from the ref. Also straight onto social media ripping into the officials too.

Was it definitely him on social media? I’ve seen a few parody accounts with his name on them

[overdrive]

Was it definitely him on social media? I’ve seen a few parody accounts with his name on them

Has the blue tick and I got to it from Hibs tagging the account in question

[MikeyS]

I think a 3 of McGeady/Myk/Boyle will be productive then Nisbet still to come back in after World Cup should see us alright. Still frustrating not having a goalscoring striker right now though.

Melekrson would prob benefit from time with an Edin City or Kelty in January

[Jones28]

Recruitment is a huge issue. Of course we will discuss it.

You can skip past the threads or posts without commenting if you don’t like it.

Wasn’t a big issue for 4 games was it though?

[basehibby]

I know a debatable decision cost the Ukranian lad a goal tonight but so far into a season and no striker has scored a goal, that must be unprecedented, surely?

64% possession tonight, 18 shots away from home, we’re making chances.

Why aren’t our strikers scoring?

For starters you are obviously not including Martin Boyle as a striker - which is contentious but I'll go with it for the sake of argument.

BUT - if that's the case then you really shouldn't include Elie Youan as a striker either - should you??? Albeit Johnson is on record as stating he'd like to turn him into a striker, at the moment he plays as a winger. So who are our strikers then?



Khukarevych - Has played in 4 league matches - starting on each occasion - and has been desperately unlucky to have 2 goals ruled out.
McKirdy - has featured off the bench 3 times(?) - probably not yet totalling 90 minutes in a Hibs shirt - looks promising but yet to score.
Nisbet - injured.
Bojang - generally accepted to be a work in progress - lucky if he's played half an hour yet in a Hibs shirt.
Melkerson - Just returned from injury - yet again has probably not yet played 90 mins total in the league so far this season.


So - when you actually analyse the minutes our current crop of "strikers" have spent on the pitch this season so far, the alarmist claim that our "strikers" have not scored in "10 games" does not look very convincing at all. In fact it is revealed as a sensationalist pile of drivel with little relation to reality.

I will hold my hands up by the way and agree whole heartedly that I'd like to see ALL of our forwards (wingers, strikers - whatever) scoring for fun every Saturday. Count me out of the hysterical panic based nonsense though - I'll leave that to the red tops and attention seeking pundits looking to make a story up out of nothing.

[matty_f]

Recruitment is a huge issue. Of course we will discuss it.

You can skip past the threads or posts without commenting if you don’t like it.

Like you did with my post? Sound. :aok:

[WhileTheChief..]

Like you did with my post? Sound. :aok:

Ach we could keep this going quite a while eh!!

[CapitalGreen]

0 open play chances created by our central midfielders last night and 0 open play assists from any of them in the league this season. We severely lack a creative presence in midfield who can open up stubborn defences and get our pacey attacking players in behind with accurate through balls.

[MWHIBBIES]

0 open play chances created by our central midfielders last night and 0 open play assists from any of them in the league this season. We severely lack a creative presence in midfield who can open up stubborn defences and get our pacey attacking players in behind with accurate through balls.

Our attacking players get more than their fair share of chances. Not the midfield to blame there. Newell put 2 on an absolute plate in the Kilmarnock game.

[Saint Hibee]

Can’t believe the negativity around Melkerson. Play him in his proper position - central striker - and he will score goals.

[basehibby]

Mckirdy is a ball greedy wee nob.

If he was half as good as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as good as he is.

Youan is not a striker.

Melkerson 2 goals in 25(?).

#99 is our best hope. He seems decent, but should've had at least 2 tonight.

Twatish comment.

[Spike Mandela]

For starters you are obviously not including Martin Boyle as a striker - which is contentious but I'll go with it for the sake of argument.

BUT - if that's the case then you really shouldn't include Elie Youan as a striker either - should you??? Albeit Johnson is on record as stating he'd like to turn him into a striker, at the moment he plays as a winger. So who are our strikers then?



Khukarevych - Has played in 4 league matches - starting on each occasion - and has been desperately unlucky to have 2 goals ruled out.
McKirdy - has featured off the bench 3 times(?) - probably not yet totalling 90 minutes in a Hibs shirt - looks promising but yet to score.
Nisbet - injured.
Bojang - generally accepted to be a work in progress - lucky if he's played half an hour yet in a Hibs shirt.
Melkerson - Just returned from injury - yet again has probably not yet played 90 mins total in the league so far this season.


So - when you actually analyse the minutes our current crop of "strikers" have spent on the pitch this season so far, the alarmist claim that our "strikers" have not scored in "10 games" does not look very convincing at all. In fact it is revealed as a sensationalist pile of drivel with little relation to reality.

I will hold my hands up by the way and agree whole heartedly that I'd like to see ALL of our forwards (wingers, strikers - whatever) scoring for fun every Saturday. Count me out of the hysterical panic based nonsense though - I'll leave that to the red tops and attention seeking pundits looking to make a story up out of nothing.

Simply quoting the strikers on the official squad website.

[basehibby]

Both look ridiculous wastes of money if we are honest.

Ridiculous panic merchant of a post - McKirdy has not even played 90 mins - Melkerson is still only 19 and has been used fleetingly so far.

[MWHIBBIES]

Mckirdy is a ball greedy wee nob.

If he was half as good as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as good as he is.

Youan is not a striker.

Melkerson 2 goals in 25(?).

#99 is our best hope. He seems decent, but should've had at least 2 tonight.

How good does he think he is? You met him?

[basehibby]

Simply quoting the strikers on the official squad website.

If you'd watched a single game this season you'd recognise that Boyle is playing on the right of a front three.

[WhileTheChief..]

Can’t believe the negativity around Melkerson. Play him in his proper position - central striker - and he will score goals.

Somebody should tell LJ if it’s that simple!!

I agree though. We’ve bought about 3 or 4 centre forwards but don’t play then there. We should try it.

[WhileTheChief..]

Wasn’t a big issue for 4 games was it though?

Dunno. I think it was.

But if anyone had mentioned it when on a winning run they’d have been jumped on.

I’ll bet that LI is more concerned about the lack of goals from our strikers than a lot of you on here appear to be. He kinda mentioned it himself at the weekend.

[WeeRussell]

If he was half as good as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as good as he is.

Far too much maths for a Wednesday night. Especially for such a piss poor post.

[Donegal Hibby]

If you'd watched a single game this season you'd recognise that Boyle is playing on the right of a front three.
It's amazing what a difference a week makes on here . Last week we were great now we got problems .we only lost our first game in five . Hardly a crisis yet is it? :wink:

[Jones28]

Dunno. I think it was.

But if anyone had mentioned it when on a winning run they’d have been jumped on.

I’ll bet that LI is more concerned about the lack of goals from our strikers than a lot of you on here appear to be. He kinda mentioned it himself at the weekend.

No one’s saying it isn’t a problem. I’ve already said it is on this thread.

[basehibby]

Can’t believe the negativity around Melkerson. Play him in his proper position - central striker - and he will score goals.

You could have left it at the bold bit.

4 wins on the trot and have just narrowly lost away having dominated the game and the bedwetters are out in force. We all want our forward players to score but the indecent haste with which some are putting the boot in is shameful. As pointed out on another thread, most of our forwards are barely in the door while Melkerson - still only 19 - is just back from injury and has hardly played in the league this season.

[Rumble de Thump]

This type of thread would have made a lot more sense if it had been posted before one of our strikers scored.

[Donegal Hibby]

Tam McManus blaming Hibs strikers in the " The Daily Record " he's got a few interesting stats .

[Hibernian Verse]

Tam McManus blaming Hibs strikers in the " The Daily Record " he's got a few interesting stats .

Is that the same Tam McManus that said "Erling Haaland has Hibs to thank as Manchester City star prepares to shatter EVERY scoring record"

I used to like him but his Daily Record "pieces" are Tom Kite.

[Donegal Hibby]

Is that the same Tam McManus that said "Erling Haaland has Hibs to thank as Manchester City star prepares to shatter EVERY scoring record"

I used to like him but his Daily Record "pieces" are Tom Kite.
Lot of his articles are Tom kite and don't like Daily record either though his stats on shots crosses if correct show we are doing most things right bar put the ball in the net

[Iain G]

Tam McManus blaming Hibs strikers in the " The Daily Record " he's got a few interesting stats .

Considering how pish a striker he was he has some nerve! :greengrin

[#2 Double Tap]

Considering how pish a striker he was he has some nerve! :greengrin

I remember his debut at tiny.

Had a fine game playing on the right wing. Always felt he shoulda played there instead of up top.

[Spike Mandela]

This type of thread would have made a lot more sense if it had been posted before one of our strikers scored.

Unfortunately it was disallowed.

As the OP I have to say I wasn’t being overly critical of the way the team has been playing but just highlighting a quite unusual quirk that so far into the season none of our squad listed strikers have registered a goal in the league.

I am aware Boyle is a forward type player played through the middle sometimes but often he is right midfield or winger depending on formation and the club has him registered on the official website as a midfielder in the squad list.

We are still managing to get results and other players are chipping in with goals but I wonder if any of the other teams in the league have went without a registered striker scoring, what’s the longest Hibs have been without a striker scoring, will a striker score and go on a scoring streak like Doidge and does it even matter as long as we get results?

It may be a relatively common occurrence I just can’t remember such a long time without a Hibs striker even getting a wee consolation goal.

If one of the strikers or a returning Nisbet could start finding the net regularly we could have a pretty decent season methinks.

[Hibees1973]

Yep I’m more worried with his constant moaning at refs then his all round play. He was barely on the park and a teammate was having to pull him away from the ref. Also straight onto social media ripping into the officials too.

McKirdy looks to me to be the latest toe-rag to arrive at Easter Road. There have been a few of them over the years.

I've read on hibs.net previously that some posters are looking forward to him winding up the opposition supporters. He will only do this if he performs well as part of the team and knocks in a few goals.

If he continues to noise up opposition players, moan at referees, show a lack of professionalism and not look to pass the ball to other players in a better scoring position he will quickly become a liability.

I've been unimpressed by McKirdy so far.

Has a long way to go to convince me he should be at Hibs.

[basehibby]

Dunno. I think it was.

But if anyone had mentioned it when on a winning run they’d have been jumped on.

I’ll bet that LI is more concerned about the lack of goals from our strikers than a lot of you on here appear to be. He kinda mentioned it himself at the weekend.

I am a wee bit concerned that only Boyle has scored so far from our forwards - but that doesn't mean I'm pissing my pants and writing them all off as a waste of money. I very much doubt LJ is taking that attitude either because it's not warranted - not at this stage anyway.

[MWHIBBIES]

McKirdy looks to me to be the latest toe-rag to arrive at Easter Road. There have been a few of them over the years.

I've read on hibs.net previously that some posters are looking forward to him winding up the opposition supporters. He will only do this if he performs well as part of the team and knocks in a few goals.

If he continues to noise up opposition players, moan at referees, show a lack of professionalism and not look to pass the ball to other players in a better scoring position he will quickly become a liability.

I've been unimpressed by McKirdy so far.

Has a long way to go to convince me he should be at Hibs.

Absolute gammon of a post this. Dyed hair and argues with refs a bit, must be a toe-rag.

What lack of professionalism has he shown?


Hibs.net - ''we lack characters''

Also Hibs.net - ''I'm unimpressed by this player and his personality''

[JimBHibees]

McKirdy looks to me to be the latest toe-rag to arrive at Easter Road. There have been a few of them over the years.

I've read on hibs.net previously that some posters are looking forward to him winding up the opposition supporters. He will only do this if he performs well as part of the team and knocks in a few goals.

If he continues to noise up opposition players, moan at referees, show a lack of professionalism and not look to pass the ball to other players in a better scoring position he will quickly become a liability.

I've been unimpressed by McKirdy so far.

Has a long way to go to convince me he should be at Hibs.

Wtf

[007]

Wtf

It's someone angling for an argument.

[Since452]

If only we'd gone for Shankland who can't stop scoring...

[CB Hibs 68]

If only we'd gone for Shankland who can't stop scoring...
Hoping big time when Nisbet is back he will do the job you think Shankland would have done .Also think Mc Kirdy will do a job for us .This feeling isn’t based on what I have seen so far but on his record at Swindon where he was rated.

[brog]

Just a few random thoughts in response to prior posts.
1. Just before the window closed, most people on here claimed our biggest need was for either a central defender or a holding midfielder. I was in a small minority saying we needed a striker but that was before we signed Boyle and Big Mikey. FWIW I think both Mikey and Youan are good players and will score goals.
2. I agree I would like a creative midfield player but if you have a Scott Allan type then you have to lose out elsewhere.
3. I think there's no doubt Boyle is a forward, regardless of our website. I would also point out that despite him apparently only playing wide right his 3 open play goals have all come from a central position.
4. Apparently our 3 central mid players have not had an assist. They have however all scored and JC is our joint top league scorer!

[WhileTheChief..]

I am a wee bit concerned that only Boyle has scored so far from our forwards - but that doesn't mean I'm pissing my pants and writing them all off as a waste of money. I very much doubt LJ is taking that attitude either because it's not warranted - not at this stage anyway.

Neither am I, quite the opposite.

I want to see more of them. I want to see a front 2 pairing out of any of Melkerson / McKirdy / Youan / Myko.

Try 2 for a few games, drop one if it's not working and bring another in. Repeat until we find a scoring combo.

Add Nisbet into the mix when fit. Leave Boyle on the wing in midfield.

[basehibby]

Neither am I, quite the opposite.

I want to see more of them. I want to see a front 2 pairing out of any of Melkerson / McKirdy / Youan / Myko.

Try 2 for a few games, drop one if it's not working and bring another in. Repeat until we find a scoring combo.

Add Nisbet into the mix when fit. Leave Boyle on the wing in midfield.

I think we're getting to a point we will start to see that happening. LJ has rightly stayed with a starting lineup that's been producing results - giving other players the chance to bed into the squad and/or return from injury. The fixtures are piling up though and with the likes of Magennis, McKirdy and Melkerson pushing on the edges of that lineup he's bound to start ringing the changes sooner rather than later.

[cameronw-hfc]

Mckirdy is a ball greedy wee nob.

If he was half as good as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as good as he is.

Youan is not a striker.

Melkerson 2 goals in 25(?).

#99 is our best hope. He seems decent, but should've had at least 2 tonight.


Truly woeful comment. Melkersen made most of those appearances last season in a team that didn't create anything.

Youan isn't a striker, you're correct.

And the Mckirdy comments are just awful. He's in a new league, big name signing expected to score goals, so aye, he might have a shot when he should shoot as he's desperate for his first goal.

The comments about how good he thinks he is shows one of Scottish footballs biggest downsides. Anytime a player isn't a robot he's a billy big baws. Personally a boy with a bit of attitude and an edge is brilliant. This reeks of you taking an instant dislike to him having a bit of an edge and being a funny lad, so you've decided to claim "if he was half as good as he thinks he is..".

Personally his socials are a breath of fresh air. A player that doesn't post the usual " worked hard, tonight wasn't our night, thanks to the fans" or "not good enough, thanks for the support" robotic crap. I actually hop onto Insta to see his posts after games as they give me a smile and laugh, which is something I've never done before.

I've said before Hibs fans take instant dislikes to certain players for whatever reason, Newell is one, looks like Mckirdy will be one for some as well.

[Bridge hibs]

Hoping big time when Nisbet is back he will do the job you think Shankland would have done .Also think Mc Kirdy will do a job for us .This feeling isn’t based on what I have seen so far but on his record at Swindon where he was rated.Think he was being sarcastic about Shankland 😀 agree about Nisbet and McKirdy, the latter had a good scoring record for Swindon and hopefully he will find his feet soon

[Spike Mandela]

Youan yaaaaayyyyyyyyy:flag::flag::flag::thumbsup:

[MWHIBBIES]

9th goal by a Hibs forward in all competitions.