Goodwin

[CMac1988]

Post match interview should say something along lines of it was good to see him back on bench, for a laugh!

We're too nice to try anything so simple despite it being an easy thing to do with no reprocussion. Ultimately Goodwin has had the final laugh tonight.

[loanheadhibby]

****ing hate the prick.

So do I but he’s handed LJ his ar$e on a plate tonight.

[Tully]

So do I but he’s handed LJ his ar$e on a plate tonight.

Hibs defending handed it to them on a plate absolutely shocking defending, no aggression at defending corners or set pieces, the penalty decision changed the game completely, but we really need to start taking chances when dominating games

[gbhibby]

“A Touchline Suspension prohibits an individual from: Attending the dugouts and technical areas before, during and after the match. Entering the field-of-play and the prohibited area in the vicinity of the touchline and goal lines. Coaching or issuing instructions for the duration of the game.”

He was clearly issuing instructions to Watkins there as he came on the pitch.
That's what I thought. I also thought that there was a ruling that the manager had to be a certain distance away from the dugout. You saw him clearly passing instructions directly to players.Did he not have his feet up on the roof of the dugout.

[loanheadhibby]

Hibs defending handed it to them on a plate absolutely shocking defending, no aggression at defending corners or set pieces, the penalty decision changed the game completely, but we really need to start taking chances when dominating games

Yes it was a poor night. Some of the players are just not good enough. Not sure LJ is up to it either tho. He picks these guys week in, week out.

[A Hi-Bee]

Good win is a phanney for sure, the SFA are a joke, but anyone with pictures of where he is sitting or giving instruction should have it all over the internet and sent to the SFA. But the game in this country is just so twisted it will make no difference

[tamig]

That's what I thought. I also thought that there was a ruling that the manager had to be a certain distance away from the dugout. You saw him clearly passing instructions directly to players.Did he not have his feet up on the roof of the dugout.

He said in his pre-match interview it would be easier for him to get instructions to the bench due to where he’d be sitting. Is this “no instructions” rule still a thing?

[gbhibby]

He said in his pre-match interview it would be easier for him to get instructions to the bench due to where he’d be sitting. Is this “no instructions” rule still a thing?
When you have seen other managers bans they have been on the phone to the bench so instructions are not given directly to players. Watching the game he was giving instructions directly to players. It makes a mockery out of the touchline ban.At Easter Road our manager could sit in the first row next to the dugout so where is the punishment?

[Iain G]

Yes it was a poor night. Some of the players are just not good enough. Not sure LJ is up to it either tho. He picks these guys week in, week out.

This was mostly the same team and the same manager that did so well against St Mirren last weekend though?

[Zambernardi1875]

This was mostly the same team and the same manager that did so well against St Mirren last weekend though?

Aye 1-0 up on a cozy, sunny afternoon in Edinburgh but 1-0 down in a dark cold eberdeen with the pressure of the past game and scary Goodwin they shat the bed

[PHeffernan]

“A Touchline Suspension prohibits an individual from: Attending the dugouts and technical areas before, during and after the match. Entering the field-of-play and the prohibited area in the vicinity of the touchline and goal lines. Coaching or issuing instructions for the duration of the game.”

He was clearly issuing instructions to Watkins there as he came on the pitch.

What is the source of your information?

The following is from the SFA and makes no mention of coaching or issuing instruction during a game.

11.2.2 During a suspension, a player or member of Team Staff is excluded from the Playing Zone at any match played under the jurisdiction of the ScottishFA until the expiry of the suspension. The “Playing Zone” is the area used by players and Team Staff at a match and shall extend to both teams’ dressingrooms, the match officials’ dressing rooms, the players’ tunnel to the pitch, any corridors leading to and/or connecting the said rooms and the players’tunnel to the pitch, the technical areas and substitutes’ benches, the track, the playing surface and any area within 2 metres of any part of the touch lineor goal line of the playing surface. The exclusion shall apply from 75 minutes prior to the scheduled time of kick-off of a match until 15 minutes followingthe referee having signalled the end of the match. For the avoidance of doubt, the exclusion continues to apply during extra time and/or kicks from thepenalty mark when required in any match. For the avoidance of doubt, reference is made to Annex D, Paragraph 7.2.

[Hibs1969]

After that horrific second half performance, where Goodwin was or wasn’t sitting is the least of our worries. What about addressing the p*sspoor defending for all 3 second half goals? Sure the penalty decision was completely wrong but the way we folded after being streets ahead first half is a major worry. 10 goals conceded at Parkhead and Pittodrie along with the 2nd have capitulation v St Johnstone should have loads of alarm bells ringing.

[Bridge hibs]

Yes it was a poor night. Some of the players are just not good enough. Not sure LJ is up to it either tho. He picks these guys week in, week out.Who else can he pick other than the players he has available ?

[loanheadhibby]

Who else can he pick other than the players he has available ?

It’s a very good point you make. Season after season of poor recruitment is coming home to roost.

Fish for example. Why was he signed? Purely as back up? Why not give the lad a run of games.

[loanheadhibby]

This was mostly the same team and the same manager that did so well against St Mirren last weekend though?

Agreed. It’s also the same guys who the week before capitulated against a very poor St Johnstone team. Also capitulated at Celtic Park.

But I suspect beating St Mirren at home is our level at the moment. We’ll likely trounce Ross County by 3. However, in the bigger games, we’re sadly not good enough individually or collectively.

[Sir David Gray]

What is the source of your information?

The following is from the SFA and makes no mention of coaching or issuing instruction during a game.

11.2.2 During a suspension, a player or member of Team Staff is excluded from the Playing Zone at any match played under the jurisdiction of the ScottishFA until the expiry of the suspension. The “Playing Zone” is the area used by players and Team Staff at a match and shall extend to both teams’ dressingrooms, the match officials’ dressing rooms, the players’ tunnel to the pitch, any corridors leading to and/or connecting the said rooms and the players’tunnel to the pitch, the technical areas and substitutes’ benches, the track, the playing surface and any area within 2 metres of any part of the touch lineor goal line of the playing surface. The exclusion shall apply from 75 minutes prior to the scheduled time of kick-off of a match until 15 minutes followingthe referee having signalled the end of the match. For the avoidance of doubt, the exclusion continues to apply during extra time and/or kicks from thepenalty mark when required in any match. For the avoidance of doubt, reference is made to Annex D, Paragraph 7.2.

Just had a look and you appear to be correct. Incredibly there doesn't seem to be any rules against a manager, who is serving a ban, sitting just behind the dugout and issuing instructions from there.

I'm not too sure where the other poster has got their information from, it would be good to find out where the rule they have quoted has come from.

[Bridge hibs]

It’s a very good point you make. Season after season of poor recruitment is coming home to roost.

Fish for example. Why was he signed? Purely as back up? Why not give the lad a run of games.Yes he was signed as back up due to injuries and suspensions. We need to shift some of the fringe players out but again and until then Johnson can only pick who he has available. Defending is not our only issue, countless times in games where we have been well on top and creating chances only to fail to find the net has been a big problem, hopefully a fit Nisbet could solve that problem

[BILLYHIBS]

It was like Goodwin was laughing at the SFA from his vantage point above the dugout

Laughing and joking with his staff and passing on instructions

A real pantomime villain

Does not excuse our piss poor performance second half though

[Carheenlea]

Just let him sit back in the dugout.

Total waste of time and an insult to the game that behaving in the manner he did effectively went unpunished despite being “sanctioned”

Scottish Football is a joke at times.

[Sir David Gray]

Just let him sit back in the dugout.

Total waste of time and an insult to the game that behaving in the manner he did effectively went unpunished despite being “sanctioned”

Scottish Football is a joke at times.

:agree: If it's not against the rules for him to do what he did last night there is literally no point to his ban.

[Golden Bear]

Just let him sit back in the dugout.

Total waste of time and an insult to the game that behaving in the manner he did effectively went unpunished despite being “sanctioned”

Scottish Football is a joke at times.

Agreed.

We've got to assume that prior to the game, Aberdeen FC will have checked out the legitimacy of Goodwin sitting where he did and received the green light to go ahead. As you rightly say, it makes a mockery of the whole sorry episode.

[loanheadhibby]

It was like Goodwin was laughing at the SFA from his vantage point above the dugout

Laughing and joking with his staff and passing on instructions

A real pantomime villain

Does not excuse our piss poor performance second half though

Your last point is what worries me. VAR/Goodwin seem to be a comfort blanket for some on here.

What this thread is basically saying is Goodwin had more influence on his team from front row of stand than LJ had from the technical area.

[CropleyWasGod]

Your last point is what worries me. VAR/Goodwin seem to be a comfort blanket for some on here.

What this thread is basically saying is Goodwin had more influence on his team from front row of stand than LJ had from the technical area.

Struggling to see that.

[SlickShoes]

Your last point is what worries me. VAR/Goodwin seem to be a comfort blanket for some on here.

What this thread is basically saying is Goodwin had more influence on his team from front row of stand than LJ had from the technical area.

Nonsense, he has been banned and shouldn't be managing his team during the game.

Even if we had won the fact he's banned but managing his team from one row behind the dugout is ridiculous.

[Donegal Hibby]

Not very often I agree with Tam McManus but I do here
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/tam-mcmanus-calls-out-blatant-28415951

[JimBHibees]

So has it been decided that Jim Goodwin complied with his touchline ban on Friday night. Absolutely laughable if that is seen to be ok.

[OldEast]

Your last point is what worries me. VAR/Goodwin seem to be a comfort blanket for some on here.

What this thread is basically saying is Goodwin had more influence on his team from front row of stand than LJ had from the technical area.

Doesn't matter who had more influence. Surely his ban should have meant he could have NO influence.

[I'm Spartacus]

Imagine a touchline ban was actually a stadium ban, or the manager in question had to sit in the VAR room and be supervised.

[flash]

Your last point is what worries me. VAR/Goodwin seem to be a comfort blanket for some on here.

What this thread is basically saying is Goodwin had more influence on his team from front row of stand than LJ had from the technical area.

You truly are the worst of posters.

[loanheadhibby]

You truly are the worst of posters.

Thanks Flash. Does that come with some sort of award?

Anyway, point stands. We got rinsed on Friday night and it had nothing to do with Goodwin coaching from the stand. It’s a childish take in a heavy defeat.

Our team needs to grow a pair and get wired in.

[JGS56]

Imagine a touchline ban was actually a stadium ban, or the manager in question had to sit in the VAR room and be supervised.

I agree - It should be like a European match ban.
Has nothing to do with the team from before the match until after the match. He can attend the match but is supervised by an official.
Neil Lennon had his ban extended because the UEFA official thought he had communicated to the touchline somehow. Probably scratched his nose at the wrong time.

[CockneyRebel]

I agree - It should be like a European match ban.
Has nothing to do with the team from before the match until after the match. He can attend the match but is supervised by an official.
Neil Lennon had his ban extended because the UEFA official thought he had communicated to the touchline somehow. Probably scratched his nose at the wrong time.



I think he rolled up the wrong trouser leg. :greengrin

[CropleyWasGod]

Thanks Flash. Does that come with some sort of award?

Anyway, point stands. We got rinsed on Friday night and it had nothing to do with Goodwin coaching from the stand. It’s a childish take in a heavy defeat.

Our team needs to grow a pair and get wired in.

Is anyone saying otherwise?

[flash]

Is anyone saying otherwise?

No they aren't but why let that impede the opportunity to have the latest of his countless pops at the team he claims to support.

[OldEast]

Is anyone saying otherwise?

Nope, hard to understand that's what he's reading into it.

[Since452]

Goodwin could have been sitting on the moon or in the center circle and it shouldn't have made a blind bit of difference. We imploded on Friday and we only have ourselves to blame.

[flash]

Goodwin could have been sitting on the moon or in the center circle and it shouldn't have made a blind bit of difference. We imploded on Friday and we only have ourselves to blame.

Another one conflating two separate issues into one.

[loanheadhibby]

Is anyone saying otherwise?

It just seems a bit petty to me. So what if Goodwin was sitting in the front row? He was not on the pitch sticking it in the net or clearing once off the line. The man is entitled to do his job and if he gets away with sitting in front row, that's his business.

I am more concerned about how our team capitulated after half time.

[loanheadhibby]

Goodwin could have been sitting on the moon or in the center circle and it shouldn't have made a blind bit of difference. We imploded on Friday and we only have ourselves to blame.

Correct young man. It seems to be a bit of a comfort blanket for some on here. It's up to the SFA if he's broken any rules.

One things for sure, it may not a blind bit of difference to us on Friday night. Apart from having to see his smug grin in the tv interview afterwards.

[SlickShoes]

It just seems a bit petty to me. So what if Goodwin was sitting in the front row? He was not on the pitch sticking it in the net or clearing once off the line. The man is entitled to do his job and if he gets away with sitting in front row, that's his business.

I am more concerned about how our team capitulated after half time.

Do you know what a manager does? They are never on the pitch scoring unless we are watching different sports.

You just want to find any reason to moan about hibs. The fact we got horsed has nothing to do with him defying his ban. He was banned for calling our player a cheat, he is not adhering to that ban so people should be calling him out on it.

[Mick O'Rourke]

I think he rolled up the wrong trouser leg. :greengrin

Would've been handy if he goat that right:greengrin

[loanheadhibby]

Do you know what a manager does? They are never on the pitch scoring unless we are watching different sports.

You just want to find any reason to moan about hibs. The fact we got horsed has nothing to do with him defying his ban. He was banned for calling our player a cheat, he is not adhering to that ban so people should be calling him out on it.

How on earth am I finding another reason for moaning at Hibs. As far as I am aware, Hibs had no input in to Goodwin being suspended or where hecdeciddd to sit. It had absolutely no impact on our performance on Friday night.

[CropleyWasGod]

How on earth am I finding another reason for moaning at Hibs. As far as I am aware, Hibs had no input in to Goodwin being suspended or where hecdeciddd to sit. It had absolutely no impact on our performance on Friday night.

and... again.... no-one has suggested it did.

[Sir David Gray]

So has it been decided that Jim Goodwin complied with his touchline ban on Friday night. Absolutely laughable if that is seen to be ok.

Based on the SFA's rulebook there doesn't appear to be anything which outlaws Goodwin's actions on Friday night.

As you say it is pretty laughable that is the case.

[FitbaFolkKen]

Based on the SFA's rulebook there doesn't appear to be anything which outlaws Goodwin's actions on Friday night.

As you say it is pretty laughable that is the case.

Which is mental, the ban is a punishment and so he shouldn’t be able to do his job.

If a player is banned they can’t influence the game on the pitch, if the manager is banned they shouldn’t be allowed to influence the game from sideline.


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[JimBHibees]

Based on the SFA's rulebook there doesn't appear to be anything which outlaws Goodwin's actions on Friday night.

As you say it is pretty laughable that is the case.

Yep it is pathetic if that was the case. Noticed Goodwin made comment before the game of using technology to speak to the players at half time. Totally spineless authorities in this country. Noticed LJ look at the stand just before the game it must have been at Goodwin and was probably thinking what on earth is going on here.

[matty_f]

Based on the SFA's rulebook there doesn't appear to be anything which outlaws Goodwin's actions on Friday night.

As you say it is pretty laughable that is the case.

He’s acted within the letter, but not the spirit, of the laws. It’s farcical.

[JimBHibees]

He’s acted within the letter, but not the spirit, of the laws. It’s farcical.

The rule book needs rewritten completely

[OldEast]

How on earth am I finding another reason for moaning at Hibs. As far as I am aware, Hibs had no input in to Goodwin being suspended or where hecdeciddd to sit. It had absolutely no impact on our performance on Friday night.

Wow you really are entrenched in your opinion aren't you? I don't believe for one second you hate Hibs as some on here say, and I understand your frustrations, but come on, step back and take a fresh look at this topic. Nobody as far as I can see is saying anything other than Goodwin shouldn't have been anywhere near his bench. The influence he had or otherwise is neither here nor there.

[Carheenlea]

Based on the SFA's rulebook there doesn't appear to be anything which outlaws Goodwin's actions on Friday night.

As you say it is pretty laughable that is the case.


Yep it is pathetic if that was the case. Noticed Goodwin made comment before the game of using technology to speak to the players at half time. Totally spineless authorities in this country. Noticed LJ look at the stand just before the game it must have been at Goodwin and was probably thinking what on earth is going on here.


He’s acted within the letter, but not the spirit, of the laws. It’s farcical.

Everyone understands what the rules and punishment is meant to entail, but the SFA probably thought they didn’t have to spell it out for adults in the game and legislate for looking for every loophole in the written text in a childish manner.

Shows Goodwin up for what he is - a total tool.

[Donegal Hibby]

Nothing surprises me anymore about Goodwin he really has no principles or morales
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/sport/football/jim-goodwin-rejects-marvin-bartley-28432767

[Kato]

Nothing surprises me anymore about Goodwin he really has no principles or morales
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/sport/football/jim-goodwin-rejects-marvin-bartley-28432767He's got a really really high opinion of himself. Typical for such a dick I suppose.

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[green day]

I didnt watch Sportscene, but its good to hear that both pundits suggested Duk dived.

Regardless of what Goodwin says, this places the Duk Diver narrative front and centre.

A Livi and Hibs win tonight would be fun - Livi and Hibs would both leapfrog Hearts and Aberdeen, at least for a day.

[OstKurve Hibs]

As a player he was very limited in what he could do so he would resort to dirty tactics, surprise surprise hes took that into management.

[Mick O'Rourke]

As a player he was very limited in what he could do so he would resort to dirty tactics, surprise surprise hes took that into management.


"Sleekit heels" Goodwin
"I dont encourage my players to dive",he says.
That is a dig at Hibs,in that he accused us of doing just that.
Also says he has no problem with Marv's comments, then goes on to say compliance officer might want to listen to the comments made about Duk the Diver.
Marv will do well to hold his temper tonight with this clown.
Marshall will be annoyed at this liar as well, as he was accused of smashing Duk with his shoulder .

Goodwin the snake is sure racking up enemies in the game.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Duk was diving when we played at Easter road. I think he got subbed before getting a second yellow

[OstKurve Hibs]

"Sleekit heels" Goodwin
"I dont encourage my players to dive",he says.
That is a dig at Hibs,in that he accused us of doing just that.
Also says he has no problem with Marv's comments, then goes on to say compliance officer might want to listen to the comments made about Duk the Diver.
Marv will do well to hold his temper tonight with this clown.
Marshall will be annoyed at this liar as well, as he was accused of smashing Duk with his shoulder .

Goodwin the snake is sure racking up enemies in the game.

Very true, hes made a complete arse of himself, it's not the first time amd wont be the last. Not that he will care, the guy has zero class.
Hopefully hes called out on this aswell.

[Tyler Durden]

Goodwin saying that “as a club we are annoyed that one of our players has been called out for diving” (words to that effect) must be the biggest brass neck hypocrisy of 2022!

Absolute *****.

[JimBHibees]

Duk was diving when we played at Easter road. I think he got subbed before getting a second yellow

If you watch the highlights of the sheeps game at Ibrox he has a ludicrous dive in the build up to their goal. As for the one in the second half on Friday with the ref 5 yards away. Dear oh dear. Didnt think ref standards could get lower

[green day]

Duk was diving when we played at Easter road. I think he got subbed before getting a second yellow

Forgot about that one - which suggests that he now has a fair bit of form, ER, Ibrox, Pittodrie (and one other which I cant remember).

While we moan that Boyle gets it tight, I think that this lad will soon take over the diver tag.

One things for sure, if he does it against Livi later Bartley and Martindale wont hold back !!

[Donegal Hibby]

"Sleekit heels" Goodwin
"I dont encourage my players to dive",he says.
That is a dig at Hibs,in that he accused us of doing just that.
Also says he has no problem with Marv's comments, then goes on to say compliance officer might want to listen to the comments made about Duk the Diver.
Marv will do well to hold his temper tonight with this clown.
Marshall will be annoyed at this liar as well, as he was accused of smashing Duk with his shoulder .

Goodwin the snake is sure racking up enemies in the game.
I also thought the 'i don't encourage my players to dive 'was a dig at us too, the other thing he said that as a club they were a little disappointed one of there players was called out this way ,he didn't seem to care much when he was doing it to Porto . Guys just really classless and the way he conducts himself I think he will eventually over step the mark again , he really is a embarrassment for any football club.

[JimBHibees]

Besuijen Maovski and Duk all divers. The one last season at Dundee when Besijen pathetically dived and rolling around feigning injury Aberdeen score and he immediately bounces up to join in the celebration. Was actually quite funny in a cheating sort of way :greengrin

[Alfred E Newman]

More garbage from that nonentity that is Charlie Nicholas.


Aberdeen penalty karma

I couldn't stop laughing over Aberdeen’s penalty against Hibs. It is funny how scripts are written in football. Ryan Porteous was accused of cheating and diving to get the penalty and red card in the first meeting of these teams. Then Duk goes down to win the spot kick on Friday for Aberdeen. People have now accused him of diving. If football was to come back and bite you then this is a great example of it.

[OstKurve Hibs]

More garbage from that nonentity that is Charlie Nicholas.


Aberdeen penalty karma

I couldn't stop laughing over Aberdeen’s penalty against Hibs. It is funny how scripts are written in football. Ryan Porteous was accused of cheating and diving to get the penalty and red card in the first meeting of these teams. Then Duk goes down to win the spot kick on Friday for Aberdeen. People have now accused him of diving. If football was to come back and bite you then this is a great example of it.

Another clown trying to stay relevant, hes the glesga levein but has medals. And an ex sheep ****ger to boot, not surprised at that drivel.

[green day]

More garbage from that nonentity that is Charlie Nicholas.


Aberdeen penalty karma

I couldn't stop laughing over Aberdeen’s penalty against Hibs. It is funny how scripts are written in football. Ryan Porteous was accused of cheating and diving to get the penalty and red card in the first meeting of these teams. Then Duk goes down to win the spot kick on Friday for Aberdeen. People have now accused him of diving. If football was to come back and bite you then this is a great example of it.

Isnt he having a go at Goodwin there - i.e. he had a go at Porto and now people are having a pop at his player?

[Hibbyradge]

Isnt he having a go at Goodwin there - i.e. he had a go at Porto and now people are having a pop at his player?

That's how I read it.

[JimBHibees]

Isnt he having a go at Goodwin there - i.e. he had a go at Porto and now people are having a pop at his player?

It's not really coming back to bite him if he wins and they benefit from the diving

[Alfred E Newman]

Isnt he having a go at Goodwin there - i.e. he had a go at Porto and now people are having a pop at his player?

He certainly isn't. It the actual article he called it Karma. He is laughing at Hibs.p

[overdrive]

He certainly isn't. It the actual article he called it Karma. He is laughing at Hibs.p

He was also accusing Porteous of cheating after the first Sheep game. Definitely having a go at Hibs.