Tartan Army Support Base

[The Mook]

Dont follow Scotland myself (being a filthy sassenach) and therefore cant comment from experience but interesting talking to weegies of both persuasions recently on where the Scotland supporter base comes from and how this has changed over the years.


Apparently in the 60s and 70s Scotland supporters were a huge majority of Rangers. Is this correct? At that time Celtc didnt really bother with the national team (presume they followed ROI or just didnt care?). They both said also that Aberdeen have always been well represented.

Fast forward to today and its (apparently) majority Celtc. Huns seem to feel marginalised by 'Nationalist tendancies' and all of Scotland against them so many have stopped going. Not sure I buy this as the rest of Scotland has always hated them along with the other cheeks. Interested in our take on this, especially older posters went back in the day as well as now. Also what about ourselves and the gunts relationship with the TA?

[hibby rae]

Dont follow Scotland myself (being a filthy sassenach) and therefore cant comment from experience but interesting talking to weegies of both persuasions recently on where the Scotland supporter base comes from and how this has changed over the years.


Apparently in the 60s and 70s Scotland supporters were a huge majority of Rangers. Is this correct? At that time Celtc didnt really bother with the national team (presume they followed ROI or just didnt care?). They both said also that Aberdeen have always been well represented.

Fast forward to today and its (apparently) majority Celtc. Huns seem to feel marginalised by 'Nationalist tendancies' and all of Scotland against them so many have stopped going. Not sure I buy this as the rest of Scotland has always hated them along with the other cheeks. Interested in our take on this, especially older posters went back in the day as well as now. Also what about ourselves and the gunts relationship with the TA?

Definitely not majority Celtic, that probably is experience bias creeping in on their part.

The proper diehards, the ones who go abroad etc. I know have Scotland first ahead of any other team, and a lot of the time their other team is lower league.

[The Spaceman]

Definitely not majority Celtic, that probably is experience bias creeping in on their part.

The proper diehards, the ones who go abroad etc. I know have Scotland first ahead of any other team, and a lot of the time their other team is lower league.

Biggest Scotland followers I know are St Johnstone and Raith Rovers fans!

[147lothian]

My experience is of the majority of the Scotland support in particular of the tartan army who travel is of coming from supporters of teams outside the OF my theory of the reason for this is that the OF are in Europe every year, so they have the opportunity to do this with their teams whereas supporters of teams outside the OF don't so they do this with the tartan army.

[The Mook]

Definitely not majority Celtic, that probably is experience bias creeping in on their part.

The proper diehards, the ones who go abroad etc. I know have Scotland first ahead of any other team, and a lot of the time their other team is lower league.

Similar to Engerlund then, who have always had big following from the lower leagues. Possibly those fans only experience of 'high profile games'

The other thing you also always got at England games back in the day (not sure about now) were the rival club squabbles - London firms fighting amongst themselves, geordies vs mackems, portsmouth v soton at a lot of games. Wondering if this kind of stuff went on within the TA?

[McD]

Only person I know that’s TA is a rangers fan, but he’s home and away with Scotland, whilst only a couple of times a year at ibrox

[DIXIHIBS]

Been following scotland abroad for 20 plus years and there really is a mix of fans from all clubs. There are still plenty rangers fans ( not huns) but they tend to keep a lower profile now as they know the anti hun bias in the TA and also the anti Scottish bias amongst huns. Always plenty hibs/hearts and really all non OF fans. Tbh social media isn't really that reflective of who follows scotland as it reflects the more extreme views. FWIW ive seen very little animosity between fans of different clubs on Scotland trips.

[jacomo]

Similar to Engerlund then, who have always had big following from the lower leagues. Possibly those fans only experience of 'high profile games'

The other thing you also always got at England games back in the day (not sure about now) were the rival club squabbles - London firms fighting amongst themselves, geordies vs mackems, portsmouth v soton at a lot of games. Wondering if this kind of stuff went on within the TA?


Nah, thankfully the TA has been a place where club rivalries are put to the side, by and large.

[Mick O'Rourke]

My first Scotland game was V England at Hampden 1966 .4-3 loss
Scotland side had 4 rangers and 4 celts that day.
What i did notice in those years was the old flat cap bunnet fans use to wear, team colours/name on them.
Well I use to see lots of Hun bunnets at Scotland games then.
No real colour clash of course ,as a Celtic or Hibs bunnet would certainly be !

Strange though,the old hun bunnets,as Celtic were well represented in the national side at the time.
For good reason! Won the EC in '67

[Speedy]

Loads from up north. And a mix of fans from everywhere else, lots of supporters of smaller teams.

[Keith_M]

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Fast forward to today and its (apparently) majority Celtc. Huns seem to feel marginalised by 'Nationalist tendancies' and all of Scotland against them so many have stopped going. Not sure I buy this as the rest of Scotland has always hated them along with the other cheeks. Interested in our take on this, especially older posters went back in the day as well as now. Also what about ourselves and the gunts relationship with the TA?


Not a dig at you but that is utter nonsense, and only reflects the biases and paranoia of an element of the (The) Rangers support.

[Bishop Hibee]

I travel with the Edinburgh Tartan Army. The club ran 3 buses to Hampden yesterday. Mostly Hibs and Hearts fans but supporters of many other clubs and none go too.

[BoomtownHibees]

Just going by the usual folk who sit around me at Hampden I would say up north, Aberdeen in particular, have a big presence at Scotland games

[CentreLine]

Been going to internationals since the early 70’s and was lucky enough to be in Germany for the World Cup in 1974. Only WC I’ve been at but we thought we’d always be there.
Not really seen a huge change in the makeup of the support but there does seem to be less of it these days. I’m not a TA member but my son is and I actually think the creation of the Tartan Army put a lot of people off, even though those who are in it do a wonderful job of creating a friendly and fun atmosphere around internationals.

[DIXIHIBS]

Pedantic but a lot of people are talking about fans being in the Tartan Army. They are really talking about members of the travel club ( now scotland supporters club i think). TA is a general name for all scotland fans although some groups are called Edinburgh TA, west of Scotland TA etc.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Just going by the usual folk who sit around me at Hampden I would say up north, Aberdeen in particular, have a big presence at Scotland games

That's tended to be my experience too.

[Auckland Hibs]

My experience has been OF fans are very much in the minority at most games I've attended (which have mainly been outside of Scotland).

Interested I wore my Hibs top before a game in Holland many moons ago and was pulled aside by a few TA people and told it wasn't the done thing. There was no threats or anything, just a friendly bit of advice.

[Carheenlea]

I’m saw a photo on social media of a small group of fans from my home town at Hampden last night - most were Old Firm fans!

[Pretty Boy]

Biggest Scotland fan I knew was a huge Rangers fan. Home and away every week with Rangers and same with Scotland when it was international time. I've not seen him for a while but he never saw any conflict between club and country so I'd assume he's not involved in all this not supporting Scotland nonsense that some Rangers fans are.

My cousin also follows Scotland home and away and he's a Hearts fan. Most of the Hibs fans I know are a bit like me. Like Scotland to do well, will watch on the TV but aren't as invested as they are with Hibs. When I lived in Aberdeen it always seems the locals I worked with were more into Scotland than a lot of Edinburgh people I knew and know. That could just be the groups I moved in though.

Personally speaking I attended Scotland games for years. Lost interest in the mid to late 00s and haven't been to a game since Netherlands away before the Ferguson/McGreggor incident. Have been considering rejoining the supporters club and getting my daughter involved recently though. She's half English so I need to make sure there are no split loyalties.

[Lendo]

I think there are way more Rangers who support Scotland than they care to admit. Although there are still plenty who refer to the Tartan Army as the Trannies.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

In my experience majority of regular Scotland followers are from outside of the central belt, or at least not from the main towns and cities between Edinburgh and Glasgow. I also think dislike for the TA isn’t just confined to Rangers fans, they do look pretty daft with their Glengarrys and Timberlands to be fair


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[hibby rae]

Similar to Engerlund then, who have always had big following from the lower leagues. Possibly those fans only experience of 'high profile games'

The other thing you also always got at England games back in the day (not sure about now) were the rival club squabbles - London firms fighting amongst themselves, geordies vs mackems, portsmouth v soton at a lot of games. Wondering if this kind of stuff went on within the TA?

Well if you're talking about football casuals, then from reading a couple books on it Scottish firms teamed up, except the Inter City Firm who sided with the English gangs. This is the 80s and early 90s though

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Well if you're talking about football casuals, then from reading a couple books on it Scottish firms teamed up, except the Inter City Firm who sided with the English gangs. This is the 80s and early 90s though

Correct - think it might have been These Colours Don’t Run that details CCS and ASC teaming up for England coming to Hampden maybe late 80s? English firms taking liberties in Glasgow city centre but were ambushed getting off the train at Waverley from Kings Cross iirc


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[Green_one]

Logically, by simple geography, a lot of OF fans must go to Scotland games. If we are talking pure TA and away supporting then my impression from ones I know is they tend to be non OF. Pretty varied bunch. Especially East coast. Don’t seem to take their football rivalries into the TA

In the late 60c and early 70s Celtic had a lot of players in the side. Rangers much less so. That might have seemed to alter the balance a little. Nothing to do with independence except in the small minds of some Rangers fans who are always looking for some conspiracy against them when the opposite is true. The biggest change is that few OF players actually qualify to play for Scotland. Especially Rangers.

[Helensburghhibs]

I like following scotland and treat it completely seperate to folling hibs. One thing that annoys me now though is the social media drive to find flaws with the support and root out who supports who.

"bood" james mclean the ta is full of catholoc hating bigots. No he got bood because he is one of their high profile players. As did coleman and the lad up front who scored against us on dublin.

Scotland is no different to hibs. When they are doing well and crowds are up theres more fannys attend. Its no differemt to any other support in the world. I though irelands support was decent but evem they had a few "up the ra" dittiea.

[lyonhibs]

I'd say in my experience of going away with Scotland, lower League clubs are disproportionately represented. Also that, happily, whatever club team you support doesn't matter or really get overly discussed whilst travelling with Scotland

[ronaldo7]

I like following scotland and treat it completely seperate to folling hibs. One thing that annoys me now though is the social media drive to find flaws with the support and root out who supports who.

"bood" james mclean the ta is full of catholoc hating bigots. No he got bood because he is one of their high profile players. As did coleman and the lad up front who scored against us on dublin.

Scotland is no different to hibs. When they are doing well and crowds are up theres more fannys attend. Its no differemt to any other support in the world. I though irelands support was decent but evem they had a few "up the ra" dittiea.

I met a few Irish guys on the train through and had a great crack with them. Another group on the way home were a bit different telling me it was 4-2 on aggregate. 😂

[Spudster]

I remember when there was talk of moving away from Hampden about 15 years ago McCoist was a pundit for a game and mentioned that the majority of Scotland fans come from Aberdeenshire. It stuck with me cos he mentioned my hometown. When I was out on Saturday in Aberdeen about 11am the streets were swarming with folk heading for the game. So I'd agree Aberdeen(shire) takes up a bigger % of the TA.

[son of haggart]

I'd say in my experience of going away with Scotland, lower League clubs are disproportionately represented. Also that, happily, whatever club team you support doesn't matter or really get overly discussed whilst travelling with Scotland


I would say that's about right. Used to be a member of the travel club way back. Going way back to the world cup in 82 there were supporters of all teams including the OF but definitely a bias towards the highlands and teams outside the Old Firm. I would say as the years progressed thee proportion of OF fans, particularly rangers has diminished. I remember in 1998 our bus (mixture of non-OF with one Hun , but club allegiance never referred to) at St Etienne Hotel discovered there was a busload of openly rangers fans at the next hotel and spent a few days trying to make sure we never ended in the same bar as them.

Lots of Aberdeenshire too as people say

[NAE NOOKIE]

One thing I just don't get is the 'are you a Scotland supporter' question you sometimes hear getting asked. When I was a kid growing up even in the pretty tepid football area of the Borders if you had asked that question nobody would have had a clue what you were on about ... if you were into the fitba then you were automatically a Scotland supporter, it would never have crossed your mind that disinterest in the fortunes of the national team could even be a thing.

It's been a good few years since I've been to see Scotland at Hampden, but I was a pretty regular attendee at Easter Road for under 21 games until the SFA took the ludicrous decision to base them in Paisley for the majority of the time. To this day if I had the chance to go along to Hampden with a lift there and back I would almost certainly take it.

I only know one guy who could be described as a faithful Tartan army member going to quite a few away games, and he's a massive Sticky Bun :greengrin

[Keith_M]

Dropped the missus off at Edinburgh airport and there was loads of Scotland fans heading out to Poland.

So the East of Scotland seems pretty well represented.

[DIXIHIBS]

One thing I just don't get is the 'are you a Scotland supporter' question you sometimes hear getting asked. When I was a kid growing up even in the pretty tepid football area of the Borders if you had asked that question nobody would have had a clue what you were on about ... if you were into the fitba then you were automatically a Scotland supporter, it would never have crossed your mind that disinterest in the fortunes of the national team could even be a thing.

It's been a good few years since I've been to see Scotland at Hampden, but I was a pretty regular attendee at Easter Road for under 21 games until the SFA took the ludicrous decision to base them in Paisley for the majority of the time. To this day if I had the chance to go along to Hampden with a lift there and back I would almost certainly take it.

I only know one guy who could be described as a faithful Tartan army member going to quite a few away games, and he's a massive Sticky Bun :greengrin

I cannot understand a football fan in scotland who doesnt support scotland to some extent. I get it that some arent really that fussed about the national team but some actually want scotland to lose...others actively support other nations. We must be one of the few countries in the world that have this problem.

[Smartie]

There’s definitely been a subtle shift since Rangers died and we had the referendum.

My group has been dwindling (myself included, I had bought the package of tickets at the start of the year but didn’t go to any of the games this week) for various reasons. We’re mainly ageing and have family commitments over bevvy commitments but there are other reasons. One hun has got into the whole SFA conspiracy theory business and hasn’t been seen in ages.

One mate who is a weird split Morton / Rangers fan is keener than he’s ever been and we’ve recruited some new blood who go a lot.

What I’ve noticed, possibly since the referendum is that there’s a cohort of people who might have been ambivalent to the national side who now actively hate the national side and the tartan army. They’re not just Rangers fans either. I reckon you can pick up on undercurrents of it even on here when you have the most pro union posters on the independence threads often being the most cynical about those who choose to spend their time following the national side.

There are also those who follow domestic football and their own team for a passion, for whom the international weeks get in the way and are a chore.

[Brummie_Hibs]

The biggest twats I've seen following Scotland have been Hearts fans. Lithuania, Malta and Hungary are all places I could tell stories about them.

Saying that, I got drunk with a Jambo in Moscow, and he was fine.

I hang about with Celtic, Rangers, Airdrie, Ayr, Dunfermline, Partick Thistle and Falkirk fans.

[Hibee Ryan]

I go with a group of about 20 people and in there is mainly Hibs and Hearts fans, there is also Stranraer, Celtic, Rangers and Partick fans in there.

There is always good friendly banter about club teams when at Scotland games, between mates, but there's a few unwritten rules like no singing songs of club teams, and couple of times people have been told to shut it, when at games. Interestingly I've noticed the last few games at home people singing club songs namely Celtic and Hearts. But I put this down to people who are going to their first international games now that we are relatively successful compared to previous years.

[He's here!]

I cannot understand a football fan in scotland who doesnt support scotland to some extent. I get it that some arent really that fussed about the national team but some actually want scotland to lose...others actively support other nations. We must be one of the few countries in the world that have this problem.

Be surprised if any Scottish football fan actually wants the national team to lose, but I've no problem admitting I am utterly indifferent to how they get on. I grew up supporting them as a matter of course (remember greetin' as a wee boy when we lost to Peru in 78...I really thought we were going to win the WC!) and used to go and watch them. Travelled to Euro 96 and WC 98 but the last time I even watched a game on TV was when Garry O'Connor and Derek Riordan kicked off the second half as Scotland's front two, which was a lovely moment but must have been more than 15 years ago.

Gradually lost all interest partly because we were so cr*p for so long and partly because I came to realise I was only really there for the bevvy with mates. I'd be 'over' a defeat the instant the final whistle went. I just couldn't feel even remotely as attached to a bunch of players from other clubs as I do to Hibs. I read the team line-up recently and had no idea who most of the players are.

[DIXIHIBS]

Be surprised if any Scottish football fan actually wants the national team to lose, but I've no problem admitting I am utterly indifferent to how they get on. I grew up supporting them as a matter of course (remember greetin' as a wee boy when we lost to Peru in 78...I really thought we were going to win the WC!) and used to go and watch them. Travelled to Euro 96 and WC 98 but the last time I even watched a game on TV was when Garry O'Connor and Derek Riordan kicked off the second half as Scotland's front two, which was a lovely moment but must have been more than 15 years ago.

Gradually lost all interest partly because we were so cr*p for so long and partly because I came to realise I was only really there for the bevvy with mates. I'd be 'over' a defeat the instant the final whistle went. I just couldn't feel even remotely as attached to a bunch of players from other clubs as I do to Hibs. I read the team line-up recently and had no idea who most of the players are.

I understand losing interest etc as i have felt like that myself at times but if you think there aren't scots who want scotland to lose you are sadly mistaken. Just have a look on follow follow when scotland play.

[Keith_M]

I was in a pub in Glasgow years ago when there was a fight between some Scotland supporters and what I thought were England Fans.

I have to admit to being a bit confused when I heard the 'England Fans' talking with weegie accents, until I saw the Rangers tattoos.

There was apparently a spell where wearing England tops was fairly common among the weirdest parts of their support, but I still can't get my head round why.

[Carheenlea]

I was in a pub in Glasgow years ago when there was a fight between some Scotland supporters and what I thought were England Fans.

I have to admit to being a bit confused when I heard the 'England Fans' talking with weegie accents, until I saw the Rangers tattoos.

There was apparently a spell where wearing England tops was fairly common among the weirdest parts of their support, but I still can't get my head round why.

A good example of one of those creatures here around the 40 seconds. Good Rangers men.


https://youtu.be/pmGjiokfQ2A

[JimBHibees]

A good example of one of those creatures here around the 40 seconds. Good Rangers men.


https://youtu.be/pmGjiokfQ2A

Hysterical and depressing in equal measure. :greengrin

[Brummie_Hibs]

There was trouble in Krakow last night - young Scotland fans fighting over club loyalties.

[wookie70]

If Scotland win more often then it may attract OF Glory Hunters

[Spudster]

I read the team line-up recently and had no idea who most of the players are.

Such a high standard of player in the current squad so that is quite an accomplishment!

[heretoday]

I'd say there has always been a preponderance of non-OF fans in the Scotland support.

Starved of regular trophies, we take every opportunity to travel abroad and have some fun without getting too heavy about it all.

[JimBHibees]

Such a high standard of player in the current squad so that is quite an accomplishment!

Yep more Scots playing in top league in England than for 20 to 30 years.

[He's here!]

Such a high standard of player in the current squad so that is quite an accomplishment!

Not going to pretend I watch any football regularly these days other than Hibs matches so that will go a long way to explaining my ignorance.

Pity they weren't of a high enough standard to get to the World Cup, though there again I'm not exactly a fan of a mid season tournament in Qatar.

[Kato]

Not going to pretend I watch any football regularly these days other than Hibs matches so that will go a long way to explaining my ignorance.

Pity they weren't of a high enough standard to get to the World Cup, though there again I'm not exactly a fan of a mid season tournament in Qatar.Would you prefer a UK team?

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[Green Reaper]

At the World Cup in 98 I met a load of Hibees, from Musselburgh, one jambo and quite a few from smaller teams and up North

[Keith_M]

Not going to pretend I watch any football regularly these days other than Hibs matches so that will go a long way to explaining my ignorance.

Pity they weren't of a high enough standard to get to the World Cup, though there again I'm not exactly a fan of a mid season tournament in Qatar.


How do you feel about them now?

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Not going to pretend I watch any football regularly these days other than Hibs matches so that will go a long way to explaining my ignorance.

Pity they weren't of a high enough standard to get to the World Cup, though there again I'm not exactly a fan of a mid season tournament in Qatar.

Do you never get bored of belittling your National team? It's becoming very boring.

[JimBHibees]

Do you never get bored of belittling your National team? It's becoming very boring.

Yep endless trolling about we are too wee and too stupid to be good at anything. Takes no interest in the national team but enough to run them down at every opportunity

[AndyM_1875]

I go to all the home Scotland games and have a SSC Membership and the TA fans I'm in contact with are generally Hibs, Hearts, St Mirren, Celtic, Aberdeen and Dunfermline.

Certainly much more Celtic than Rangers presence.

[WeeRussell]

Do you never get bored of belittling your National team? It's becoming very boring.

Been at it for years. Treats anything scotland related like the holy ground wanting attention from anyone that will react, all the while claiming to be “indifferent”.

I’d say that it’s quite sad given it’s fellow hibs supporters but then I’ve seen HH insist he’s not that fussy about Hibs anymore either.

[He's here!]

Been at it for years. Treats anything scotland related like the holy ground wanting attention from anyone that will react, all the while claiming to be “indifferent”.

I’d say that it’s quite sad given it’s fellow hibs supporters but then I’ve seen HH insist he’s not that fussy about Hibs anymore either.

Definitely less fussed about Hibs and football overall than I once was. In fact if I had my time again I'd spend way less time than I once did obsessing over it! I just feel there are more rewarding ways to spend my time as I get older/more family oriented. The club are in my blood though and I'll always stick by them.

Re Scotland I don't think my view is unreasonable. It just doesn't do it for me watching them and hasn't for years. You'll not find me commenting on the match threads and as far as I'm aware I've never criticised anyone else's right to enjoy following the national team.

As a Hibs fan I'm pleased to hear Porto played well though after the outrageous flak he's endured. Fully deserved and, like McGinn, he's got the make-up to be an international stalwart.

[Frazerbob]

The SSC actually release this info from time to time. I think you are asked which club you support when you join/renew. IIRC correctly the last time, a few years ago, Rangers were top with Celtic over taking Aberdeen into 2nd place, Aberdeen 3rd, Hearts 4th, Hibs 5th. That is from the circa 30k SSC membership. No surprise that Glasgow provides most of the support at home games. From my experience, away games are very different. Possibly due to Rangers & Celtic fans who actually attend games will have several European trips every year where as for the rest if us foreign trips are far too rare so Scotland away games are a bigger deal.

I also travel with Edinburgh Tartan Army, a great mix of clubs represented. Mostly Hibs & Hearts as expected but lots of Edinburgh based Aberdeen fans, Dunfermline, Raith, St Johnstone and many more represented. Thankfully, when it comes to Scotland trips, club rivalries are very much put on the back burner.

I found an old poll on the main Tartan Army FB page which IIRC returned similar results to the SSC:

Rangers 13%
Celtic 13%
Aberdeen 11%
Hibs 4%
Hearts 4%
Dundee Utd 4%
Killie 3%
Motherwell 3%
Dundee 3%
Dunfermline 3%

[DIXIHIBS]

The SSC actually release this info from time to time. I think you are asked which club you support when you join/renew. IIRC correctly the last time, a few years ago, Rangers were top with Celtic over taking Aberdeen into 2nd place, Aberdeen 3rd, Hearts 4th, Hibs 5th. That is from the circa 30k SSC membership. No surprise that Glasgow provides most of the support at home games. From my experience, away games are very different. Possibly due to Rangers & Celtic fans who actually attend games will have several European trips every year where as for the rest if us foreign trips are far too rare so Scotland away games are a bigger deal.

I also travel with Edinburgh Tartan Army, a great mix of clubs represented. Mostly Hibs & Hearts as expected but lots of Edinburgh based Aberdeen fans, Dunfermline, Raith, St Johnstone and many more represented. Thankfully, when it comes to Scotland trips, club rivalries are very much put on the back burner.

I found an old poll on the main Tartan Army FB page which IIRC returned similar results to the SSC:

Rangers 13%
Celtic 13%
Aberdeen 11%
Hibs 4%
Hearts 4%
Dundee Utd 4%
Killie 3%
Motherwell 3%
Dundee 3%
Dunfermline 3%

Top 5 seems right but surprised the bottom 5 saying similar support to hibs/ hearts. My experience is there are far more hibs/hertz than the likes of dundee killie etc. Maybe i just never bumped into them!

[Mick O'Rourke]

The SSC actually release this info from time to time. I think you are asked which club you support when you join/renew. IIRC correctly the last time, a few years ago, Rangers were top with Celtic over taking Aberdeen into 2nd place, Aberdeen 3rd, Hearts 4th, Hibs 5th. That is from the circa 30k SSC membership. No surprise that Glasgow provides most of the support at home games. From my experience, away games are very different. Possibly due to Rangers & Celtic fans who actually attend games will have several European trips every year where as for the rest if us foreign trips are far too rare so Scotland away games are a bigger deal.

I also travel with Edinburgh Tartan Army, a great mix of clubs represented. Mostly Hibs & Hearts as expected but lots of Edinburgh based Aberdeen fans, Dunfermline, Raith, St Johnstone and many more represented. Thankfully, when it comes to Scotland trips, club rivalries are very much put on the back burner.

I found an old poll on the main Tartan Army FB page which IIRC returned similar results to the SSC:

Rangers 13%
Celtic 13%
Aberdeen 11%
Hibs 4%
Hearts 4%
Dundee Utd 4%
Killie 3%
Motherwell 3%
Dundee 3%
Dunfermline 3%


The article linked (D Express!) suggests an SFA study,without detailing percentages, showed that zombies still top the list



https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/sport/football/who-makes-up-tartan-army-28095875?int_source=mantis_rec&int_medium=web&int_campaign=more_like_this

[Frazerbob]

Top 5 seems right but surprised the bottom 5 saying similar support to hibs/ hearts. My experience is there are far more hibs/hertz than the likes of dundee killie etc. Maybe i just never bumped into them!

I would agree. Not sure if just cos of the circles I move in but there seems to more Hibs fans to me. The numbers above are from a Facebook poll, we all know to take social media with a huge pinch of salt.

[JasonC1875]

The ones I’ve got to know and now see at most away games support Hibs, Hearts, Livi, Ayr, Clydebank, Dunfermline, St Johnstone and West Ham amongst others

[Itsnoteasy]

We'll be coming We'll be coming.
Up there with the worst fitbaw songs.

[bod]

There was trouble in Krakow last night - young Scotland fans fighting over club loyalties.

At Ted’s doo it’s was hibs & hearts fans that clashed we were told.don’t know if they’re was other trouble

[Frazerbob]

At Ted’s doo it’s was hibs & hearts fans that clashed we were told.don’t know if they’re was other trouble

From what I heard, the young team couldn't handle their bevvy & were behaving like fannies. They didn't take kindly to being told to wind their necks in by the older guys. I know couple of older guys ended up with sore faces. Really hope this ***** gets nipped in the bud.

[DIXIHIBS]

From what I heard, the young team couldn't handle their bevvy & were behaving like fannies. They didn't take kindly to being told to wind their necks in by the older guys. I know couple of older guys ended up with sore faces. Really hope this ***** gets nipped in the bud.

Always been fairly amicable between rival fans but with social media hyping things up that could change. Hope not as it would change the whole atmosphere at away games.

[Lancs Harp]

I'd say in my experience of going away with Scotland, lower League clubs are disproportionately represented. Also that, happily, whatever club team you support doesn't matter or really get overly discussed whilst travelling with Scotland

Pretty similar in England. Massively provincial clubs not too many of the so called big six not sure if thats similar in Europe but seems to be the trend in Scotland and England.

[blackpoolhibs]

I dont understand why anyone born in Scotland wouldnt get behind the team at every match, whether it be there or in front of the tv?

It should naturally be your default position.:confused:

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I dont understand why anyone born in Scotland wouldnt get behind the team at every match, whether it be there or in front of the tv?

It should naturally be your default position.:confused:

Indeed 🖒