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theonlywayisup
08-09-2022, 05:09 AM
In all my years supporting the Hibees, we've had 22 managers (excluding caretaker managers). Some I remember with affection; some I don't. However, even those that I liked had reasons for me not to like them.

The best football I've seen was the end of the Lennon season in 2018, peaking with the 5-5 game. However, there were lows, none more so than the 2-1 defeat at Tiny days before.

My most enjoyable moment was the Scottish Cup final in 2016 with Stubbs as manager, but the week before I had enough of him as his second attempt at getting us out of the Championship failed. He also gave us some embarrassing defeats against the likes of Dumbarton.

It was pretty grim watching an Alex Miller team, but he gave us some great moments like League Cup final win in 1991 and entertaining players like Crunchie and O'Neil amongst others. John Collins also gave us a League Cup final win, but failed to build on that platform. Alex McLeish and Tony Mowbray gave us teams that were entertaining. Jack Ross got us to 3rd place in the league.

So, excluding Eddie Turnbull and our current manager, who has been our best managers since the start of the 80s. List being:

Bertie Auld
Pat Stanton
John Blackley
Alex Miller
Jim Duffy
Alex McLeish
Franck Sauzée
Bobby Williamson
Tony Mowbray
John Collins
Mixu Paatelainen
John Hughes
Colin Calderwood
Pat Fenlon
Terry Butcher
Alan Stubbs
Neil Lennon
Paul Heckingbottom
Jack Ross
Shaun Maloney

Comiston Hibee
08-09-2022, 08:29 AM
For attractive and mildly successful football my top three would be Alex McLeish
Tony Mowbray ( Collins won the cup with his team)
Neil Lennon just pipping Stubbs

SHODAN
08-09-2022, 08:33 AM
No contest for me really.

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Weir07
08-09-2022, 08:46 AM
Mowbray hands down, the turnaround from Williams team to Mowbray's team was quite astonishing, all done with a couple (few?) shrewd signings and releasing the potential of the Golden Generation. Superb manager.

Stubbs 2nd and McLeish 3rd

Paulie Walnuts
08-09-2022, 08:47 AM
No contest for me really.

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:agree:

All day, every day.

heretoday
08-09-2022, 08:48 AM
McLeish.

MartinfaePorty
08-09-2022, 08:54 AM
I'm honestly struggling. All the ones I like didn't stay long enough. McLeish managed the best team I've seen, but left as soon as another job came up and also he had more funds available than any other manager. Lennon's team were probably 2nd, but, again, his tenure ended ignominiously. Miller also put some great teams together, with very little money, but I can't forgive him for his record against Hearts and his defensive line-ups (Mickey Weir back to defend corners, playing Pat McGinlay and Brian Hamilton in defence at Ibrox, rather than promote youngsters into the team and still getting pumped).

Will probably vote Mowbray. Although he had some terrible results against Hearts, he got us all excited about going to games again, marrying some great youngsters with his own, astute singings.

Since452
08-09-2022, 09:03 AM
Mowbray by miles for me. Regularly going to Glasgow and playing them off the park then losing to the likes of Falkirk the following week was some ride. More often than not the football was outstanding. Great time to be a Hibs fan and at a time where i'd just started going with my mates every week. Great times.

NORTHERNHIBBY
08-09-2022, 09:06 AM
Mowbray. Couldn't wait for Saturday's to come around.

Yorkshire HFC
08-09-2022, 09:08 AM
I think the best manager is Alex Miller - for me, only Lennon comes close. Perhaps Tony Mowbray as well, although I didn't see many of his games and he wasn't there very long.

Unfortunately, it's not a very distinguished list.

Bostonhibby
08-09-2022, 09:13 AM
Stubbs, Miller, Mowbray.

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Doh Rae Me
08-09-2022, 09:25 AM
Lennon tops it for me for attitude and 5-5, a game I'll never forget. Good football with Mowbray and Collins. Stubbs a legend. I know Miller got us the league Cup but that was a long 10 years of watching his style of play.

ian cruise
08-09-2022, 09:38 AM
Lee Johnson, obviously 😁

I'd probably go with Stubbs. Not solely the cup win, his teams played attractive football. Neil Lennon championship season the football was in the main painful to watch, but it got us up. Stubbs was trying to play football against teams that had no interest in doing so.

Mcbizz1998
08-09-2022, 09:38 AM
I just can’t see past Stubbsy. Gave us the greatest moment ever as Hibs fans.

H18S NX
08-09-2022, 09:40 AM
Mowbray.

ZitellZeTime
08-09-2022, 09:51 AM
Only one man arrived in a helicopter and brought Jimmy Bocco here, so only one answer !

nonshinyfinish
08-09-2022, 09:55 AM
Only one man arrived in a helicopter and brought Jimmy Bocco here, so only one answer !

Reported.

KWJ
08-09-2022, 09:59 AM
From tape to tape it's probably Mowbray because he left us in a far better position than he arrived and Collins was able to build on his success.

If only he could've signed a goalkeeper :rolleyes:

McLeish then Lennon are probably the best going by what they've achieved over their whole managerial career but they both left us on a downslide.

Stubbs is a strong shout going by my Mowbray reasonings but we were still in the Championship. What's he doing now?

Since452
08-09-2022, 10:41 AM
Wonder if Alex Miller will try and hold on to his current 1-1 draw with Jim Duffy?

My old man
08-09-2022, 10:43 AM
No contest for me really.

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10/10 absolutely no doubt
you can vote for attractive football or not

Stubbsy won us the holy grail

so for that reason he’s got my vote

GG2TH

Paulie Walnuts
08-09-2022, 10:49 AM
10/10 absolutely no doubt
you can vote for attractive football or not

Stubbsy won us the holy grail

so for that reason he’s got my vote

GG2TH

With fairly attractive football thrown in :agree:

BILLYHIBS
08-09-2022, 10:59 AM
Mowbray the real deal

Text book Manager

Maybe a goalie and a couple of signings away from a really great side

My old man
08-09-2022, 11:08 AM
No contest for me really.

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10/10 absolutely no doubt
you can vote for attractive football or not

Stubbsy won us the holy grail

so for that reason he’s got my vote

GG2TH

My old man
08-09-2022, 11:10 AM
With fairly attractive football thrown in :agree:



abolutely had Der huns number on more than 1 occasion

GG2TH

Steve20
08-09-2022, 11:12 AM
McLeish easily.

Most enjoyable time watching Hibs, best team, most entertaining football, had Latapy and Sauzee and a good derby record.

Brightside
08-09-2022, 12:42 PM
I expected Ross to get more votes.

Bobby's Cinema
08-09-2022, 03:02 PM
Mowbray was the most consistently entertaining. I was younger then and his first season was my first ST but it's the only time I can remember walking up to ER genuinely expecting to score goals and win every single week.

But Stubbs has to be my favourite time supporting Hibs. The season we won the Scottish Cup we got to both cup finals and a play-off semi-final, what a ride. It was also the most away games I'd been to in a season. He had us competing and winning the big games, turned ER into a fortress for big games and had us going to Ibrox and Tynecastle without fear and picking up results. Lennon carried this on for a while with the momentum taking us back to Hampden for the semi the next year - we were flying. We had a belief at that time that I don't think has been replicated.

Mick O'Rourke
08-09-2022, 03:25 PM
When i saw the poll/names.
I guessed correctly the "top 3"
I too voted for Tony
Tony got top 4 league position twice and won SPL manager of the year.
Interesting had Tony not guided his side into Europe,we would not have met Dnipro and the lasting and now life saving outcome,all from that visit by the fans who made it,DniproKids,happen.


Had the poll went further back,i likely would have voted for Bob Shankly.
Yes! His teams were great to watch,for me,as much as the Tornadoes.
"See Naples and Die "was the headline 4-1
Well, Napoli died at the Holy Ground 5-0
That was down to Bob

Swedish hibee
08-09-2022, 03:25 PM
Stubbs. Did what noone else could.

Paulie Walnuts
08-09-2022, 03:26 PM
Mowbray was the most consistently entertaining. I was younger then and his first season was my first ST but it's the only time I can remember walking up to ER genuinely expecting to score goals and win every single week.

But Stubbs has to be my favourite time supporting Hibs. The season we won the Scottish Cup we got to both cup finals and a play-off semi-final, what a ride. It was also the most away games I'd been to in a season. He had us competing and winning the big games, turned ER into a fortress for big games and had us going to Ibrox and Tynecastle without fear and picking up results. Lennon carried this on for a while with the momentum taking us back to Hampden for the semi the next year - we were flying. We had a belief at that time that I don't think has been replicated.

I honestly thought we were going to retain the cup that year. When we got it back against Aberdeen I thought it was written in the stars.

J-C
08-09-2022, 03:29 PM
Difficult to choose between Mowbray and Stubbs.

Nakedmanoncrack
08-09-2022, 03:41 PM
Stubbs' record was poor, 14th & 15th best in his two seasons, but finished on the highest of highs - rightly the most POPULAR, popular not necessarily same as BEST, which for me would be McLeish or Mowbray, difficult to choose.

WeeRussell
08-09-2022, 03:41 PM
Mowbray, McLeish and Stubbs. In some order.

Mowbray for style and excitement.

McLeish for strength of team.

Stubbs for the cup.

theonlywayisup
10-09-2022, 05:20 AM
Interesting comments and not a surprise really. It was always going to be between Stubbs and Mowbray, with McLeish getting good reviews.

However, for pure entertainment, I'll go for Neil Lennon. It wasn't all great, but the end to the 2017/18 season was the best period for entertainment (from January excluding the two defeats at Tiny) that I've ever seen in all my years watching Hibs. At the time, I believed we had a manager who I thought could take us to at least 2nd in the league, but as we know it all unravelled.

I also wonder about what Mixu could have achieved as Hibs manager. Yes, the football was pretty grim, but IIRC we had just defeated the Hertz and drew with the Old Firm at Easter Road, both of which were neck and neck in the SPFL title race.

Just_Jimmy
10-09-2022, 07:45 AM
Stubbs for winning it. He also built a team with a real connection.

Mowbray, only pipped by the guy who won the holy grail on that technicality. Otherwise wins by miles. His team were fearless. It was such a good time to follow hibs. The odd Derby result and goalkeepers being the only blip at the time.

Mcleish. Had the biggest budget but he gave us sauzee, latapy, zitelli, mixu, laursen, O'Neil and the original matty Jack role. 6-2, a Scottish cup final, third. Athens. It was just great.. until he ruined it by taking his 30 pieces of silver.

Mentions for Collins and lennon who got mowbrays team over the hump to a cup and who played good football. Neither really long enough or significant impact in big picture to make top 3.



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Keith_M
10-09-2022, 08:40 AM
Looks like I'm still the only one that voted for Bertie Auld

AgentDaleCooper
10-09-2022, 09:54 AM
I voted Mowbray, because we never really dipped under him, we were consistently pushing for 3rd and pumping Rangers regularly.

But when I think about it, Mowbray, McLeish, Lennon and Collins were all blessed by fortune - Mowbray inherited the Golden Generation in their prime - just think about Riordan, Brown, O'Connor, Whittaker, Thomson - that's half a team of top class players all maturing in unison. That just doesn't happen. He only really made 3 or 4 great signings - Murphy, Boozy, Sproule and Jones. Zemmama and Benji were exciting but too inconsistent IMO.

McLeish was obviously a good manager and made great signings, but am I not right in thinking that he did so with quite hefty investment? Were Latapy, Sauzee etc not on pretty big wages? Not necessarily to take away from how good the team was, and I might also just be wrong about that, but it seems to me he got more help than most other managers financially.

Lennon basically just inherited Stubbs' team. He breathed a bit of fire into them, and it was great, but as soon as the team was broken up we fell to bits
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Collins, same as lennon - inherited Mowbray's team.

On that basis, maybe the correct answer is actually Stubbs, not just because he won the cup, but because he built arguably our best team in 15-20 years from the ground up, left us with a trophy and a foundation upon which we built to get promoted and enjoy one of our best seasons ever in the top flight.

HendoDelivered
10-09-2022, 10:01 AM
Lennon, Mowbray, Stubbs (in no particular order)

Northernhibee
10-09-2022, 10:08 AM
No contest for me really.

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Yep. Did remarkably well in his first season given how few players we had, how low we had fallen and did well to finish second, with a 4-0 humping of The The’s along the way.

Probably competed on one too many fronts in his second season and we came close to burning ourselves out but what a way to sign off. More young talent signed that season too.

A truly remarkable spell for us. Left the club far, far stronger than when he left with arguably the best midfield in Scotland.

JamesHFC
10-09-2022, 10:16 AM
Yep. Did remarkably well in his first season given how few players we had, how low we had fallen and did well to finish second, with a 4-0 humping of The The’s along the way.

Probably competed on one too many fronts in his second season and we came close to burning ourselves out but what a way to sign off. More young talent signed that season too.

A truly remarkable spell for us. Left the club far, far stronger than when he left with arguably the best midfield in Scotland.

Why do you think he's failed in his two jobs since and not managed for a few years now?

Not a dig at him as I love the guy and enjoyed his company when he was at the club, interested to hear people's opinion on why he's gone downhill in management since that day.

matty_f
10-09-2022, 10:32 AM
I’m going to say Stubbs, with the only negative that he never had Kevin Nisbet on his side. Not because that’s what i think, i just really want to see how Winston Ingram views this take.

The Modfather
10-09-2022, 10:35 AM
I expected Ross to get more votes.

Out of interest, genuinely, why? He achieved 3rd which is the match of McLeish and Mowbray and he deserves credit for that. However, he’s up against other managers that won a trophy, whose teams are still revered for their style and/or the foundations they left for the next man. I’m not sure Ross ticks any of those boxes other than 3rd.

I voted for Collins for the level he briefly had us at and the cup win in style. However, probably should have voted for Mowbray. Felt like the 6 months under Lennon but over a longer period. Plus doing it with a unique home grown team coming through together.

WeeRussell
10-09-2022, 10:52 AM
Out of interest, genuinely, why? He achieved 3rd which is the match of McLeish and Mowbray and he deserves credit for that. However, he’s up against other managers that won a trophy, whose teams are still revered for their style and/or the foundations they left for the next man. I’m not sure Ross ticks any of those boxes other than 3rd.

I voted for Collins for the level he briefly had us at and the cup win in style. However, probably should have voted for Mowbray. Felt like the 6 months under Lennon but over a longer period. Plus doing it with a unique home grown team coming through together.

Decent post but I’m assuming the Ross suggestion wasn’t serious.

blackpoolhibs
10-09-2022, 11:31 AM
King Jack. :top marks

KeithTheHibby
10-09-2022, 11:35 AM
Mowbray for me. Williamson laid the foundations however I’m not convinced he’d have been able to build the team the same way Mowbray did.
McLeish had pots of cash at his disposal but did have 1 great season in the top league.
Special mention to Lennon, Collins, Miller, Stubbs and Ross who all in their own right had success at ER.
The rest are all pretty meh and some such as Butcher, Duffy, Calderwood and Maloney were just dreadful.

gbhibby
10-09-2022, 11:50 AM
All the managers who won a trophy those are the only ones that deserve a vote.

hibees 7062
10-09-2022, 12:49 PM
Big Eck for me . We feared no one

jacomo
10-09-2022, 01:34 PM
No contest for me really.

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Exactly.

Hibs fans seem to have an issue recognising managers who win silverware, while simultaneously complaining we rarely win silverware.

This conversation (or ones very like it) has been done to death for me, but only three names on that list have lifted a cup so I’d start with them and then maybe entertain compelling arguments for one or two others.

MWHIBBIES
10-09-2022, 01:39 PM
Stubbs truly achieved something unique. The highest of highs. He's the one we'll always remember. Built a fantastic side too. All things considered I think it's him, but Mowbray done similar. If he'd won the league cup then he'd be my pick. 2 great times to support the cabbage.

SideBurns
10-09-2022, 02:14 PM
I honestly couldn't pick my top manager; they all faced different challenges (in terms of finance, and the fitba' landscape at the time).

McLeish's years were fantastic, even if the wheels were coming off by the time he went to the Huns. What might be forgotten about slightly is that he almost kept us up after taking over from Duffy, and the 2-1 derby victory when Harper scored the winner effectively ended any hopes a very good Hearts team had of challenging for the title.

Mowbray was a bit unlucky in that his tenure coincided with the Mad Vlad era when Hearts were paying crazy money and were difficult to beat. He had some heavy defeats in derbies, but also won a few memorable occasions. We scored 3 goals twice at Ibrox, and once at Parkhead - I suppose that tells you all you need to know about the approach his young team took. They had no respect for the Old Firm.

Apart from the obvious cup win, Stubbs did have the team playing superb stuff at times and had to build a squad almost from scratch. He made some great signings, and Lennon was the beneficiary of that in time (not to detract from Lennon's achievements either - it was a shame how it all went pear shaped).

Great discussion!

Kato
10-09-2022, 03:23 PM
Why do you think he's failed in his two jobs since and not managed for a few years now?

Not a dig at him as I love the guy and enjoyed his company when he was at the club, interested to hear people's opinion on why he's gone downhill in management since that day.Maybe because, alongTaff and Doolan, they had made a great partnership?

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ancient hibee
10-09-2022, 03:53 PM
Miller for me. Managed at a most difficult time-helped keep the club afloat and unexpectedly won a trophy.

Mick O'Rourke
10-09-2022, 04:01 PM
Maybe because, alongTaff and Doolan, they had made a great partnership?

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I always thought that too.
Teamwork
I dont think either followed Alan to any other club he managed.

Mick O'Rourke
10-09-2022, 04:11 PM
Miller for me. Managed at a most difficult time-helped keep the club afloat and unexpectedly won a trophy.
You could say most of that about Stubbs

Miller never had the backing of the support Alan had.
Alex thinks it was just all about his rAngers connection
Credit the cup win,but some of the football was dire
I think he was at Hibs far too long and signing his sons didnt go down well either .
Not just with fans
He did go on to have a good coaching career,it must be said.
I always thought if he fell down a siver he would come up with a lollypop :greengrin

Bostonhibby
10-09-2022, 04:16 PM
Miller for me. Managed at a most difficult time-helped keep the club afloat and unexpectedly won a trophy.I think the same, never going to win a popularity contest but did a great job leading up to and during the Mercer abomination then won a cup shortly after.

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ekhibee
10-09-2022, 04:59 PM
McLeish easily.

Most enjoyable time watching Hibs, best team, most entertaining football, had Latapy and Sauzee and a good derby record.

Yep, and Zitelli. Brilliant team to watch, and the 6-2 game will always stick in my mind. Fantastic team.

Hibiza
10-09-2022, 05:08 PM
Mowbs : easy.

A Hi-Bee
10-09-2022, 05:15 PM
A. Stubbs for sure, honorable mention to T. Mowbray, N. Lennon and J.Collins, just cannot bring myself to look back at Judas with any affection even if his well paid team turned out pretty guid.

:flag::flag::flag:

Since452
10-09-2022, 05:36 PM
Mowbray, McLeish and Ross my favourites. Just couldn't take to Lennon I'm afraid. Honourable mention to Stubbs for winning the holy grail.

loanheadhibby
10-09-2022, 05:42 PM
Stubbs truly achieved something unique. The highest of highs. He's the one we'll always remember. Built a fantastic side too. All things considered I think it's him, but Mowbray done similar. If he'd won the league cup then he'd be my pick. 2 great times to support the cabbage.

Were we not always in the 2nd division under Stubbs.
Obviously the cup win was fantastic but are you serious rating him above McLeish and Mowbray.

MWHIBBIES
10-09-2022, 05:46 PM
Were we not always in the 2nd division under Stubbs.
Obviously the cup win was fantastic but are you serious rating him above McLeish and Mowbray.

I am, yes.

heretoday
10-09-2022, 06:46 PM
Maybe Lee Johnson will prove to be the best. Who knows?

I hope he's recovering well from his op.

WeeRussell
10-09-2022, 07:06 PM
Were we not always in the 2nd division under Stubbs.
Obviously the cup win was fantastic but are you serious rating him above McLeish and Mowbray.

If Lennon goes unquestioned for inheriting Alan’s team and giving us some excitement for a few months, I don’t think it’s unreasonable for Stubbs to be suggested when he won the Scottish cup.

He’d absolutely have got us promoted in 2017 in my opinion. And it would have been better to watch as well.

jacomo
10-09-2022, 07:31 PM
Maybe Lee Johnson will prove to be the best. Who knows?

I hope he's recovering well from his op.


Obviously that would be brilliant. And yes, hopefully he’s making a good recovery.

jacomo
10-09-2022, 07:32 PM
Were we not always in the 2nd division under Stubbs.
Obviously the cup win was fantastic but are you serious rating him above McLeish and Mowbray.


This is such a weird comment I’m not sure it deserves a serious answer.

MWHIBBIES
10-09-2022, 07:57 PM
This is such a weird comment I’m not sure it deserves a serious answer.

Yeah, weird as you say.

There is no ''but'' with Stubbs winning the cup. Its the greatest achievement of any Hibs manager since the 50s.

lucky
10-09-2022, 09:14 PM
Stubbs won the Scottish Cup so for me he has to be No1

O'Rourke3
10-09-2022, 11:00 PM
Best Manager? Has to Alex Miller. Everyone else on the list is 2-3 years. No other manager had to put up with less money to spend(for a long time) and while the football was far from inspiring at times - he met the brief of keeping us up. Signed by Kenny Waugh, Waugh's reasoning was St Mirren always finish above us. He was there throughout the Duff Gray era which ended with the Mercer "merger". Won a trophy. Then put together one of the best sides I've witnessed since the Tornadoes. The McLeish side was brilliant but he then f/o'd. Mowbray - same result. I'd a huge amount of time and affection for JC and hoped his methods got bought into by the team - that didn't happen. Stubbs gave me the single most memorable Hibs game in my lifetime - possibly the greatest season bar two results - then left. Lennon promised so much but is his own box of fireworks and it quickly went wrong.
If the poll was most exciting team or single greatest season - the Lexi is not the answer. In this case - he is.

pacorosssco
11-09-2022, 12:00 AM
[QUOTE=lucky;7097974]Stubbs won the Scottish Cup so for me he has to be No1[/QUOT

Agreed. Trophies count and highest trophy won since league in 50s

Mr Grieves
11-09-2022, 12:44 AM
My Hibs fandom started under the reign of miller and let's be honest, except the League cup win, it was ****ing boring. Most entertainment has been under McLeish, Mowbray and Lennon. Special mention for Stubbs for you know what

Since452
11-09-2022, 05:52 AM
Alex Miller gave us the most embarrassing derby run in our history. 22 without a win was it? One solitary league cup win in a ten year reign doesn't make up for it imo. The vast majority of his football was chronic with one 3rd place thrown in. If social media was around then he'd have been hounded out after a couple of seasons. Sure he had more draws than wins over his decade in charge.

NORTHERNHIBBY
11-09-2022, 07:46 AM
Yeah, weird as you say.

There is no ''but'' with Stubbs winning the cup. Its the greatest achievement of any Hibs manager since the 50s.

No doubt the poll would look differently had Stubbs stayed on, won the Championship and then had a chance to play his team in the SPL but that's always going to be an if.

Mick O'Rourke
11-09-2022, 07:56 AM
No doubt the poll would look differently had Stubbs stayed on, won the Championship and then had a chance to play his team in the SPL but that's always going to be an if.

He would have topped the poll,imo,had he also won the LC and got promotion.

And it was close !... but no cigar. :boo hoo:

Eyrie
11-09-2022, 08:42 AM
All depends on what you mean by "best".

Is it success on the pitch? Then it's Stubbs.
Is it success in the face of adversity? Then it's Miller.
Is it entertaining football? Then it's Mowbray?
Is it using a bloated budget to sign exceptional players? Then it's the GJP.

I voted Mowbray.

Keith_M
11-09-2022, 09:14 AM
All the managers who won a trophy those are the only ones that deserve a vote.


Ah, so you're a Bertie Auld fan as well then.


:wink:

Mick O'Rourke
11-09-2022, 09:23 AM
Ah, so you're a Bertie Auld fan as well then.


:wink:

And a few others on the list......... with other clubs.:greengrin

loanheadhibby
11-09-2022, 06:21 PM
This is such a weird comment I’m not sure it deserves a serious answer.

Didn't mean to be weird but the thread is relating to people's opinions on the best Hibs manager since the start of the 80s.
I'm just a bit surprised that some are picking a guy who only managed us in the 2nd division.
I do realise the cup win was an amazing achievement.

jacomo
11-09-2022, 06:59 PM
Didn't mean to be weird but the thread is relating to people's opinions on the best Hibs manager since the start of the 80s.
I'm just a bit surprised that some are picking a guy who only managed us in the 2nd division.
I do realise the cup win was an amazing achievement.


You are entitled to your opinion of course. If you think someone else has done a better job than Alan Stubbs that’s up to you.

But to dismiss another poster as ‘not serious’ for putting forward his name is just plain weird. He achieved what no other manager achieved in 114 years. Of course he deserves consideration as our best manager of recent times.

darwenhibby
12-09-2022, 01:39 PM
Miller managed us in some concerning times for Hibs
It was not all doom and gloom
We had a good team to watch with likes of Archibald Goram Collins
After the Mercer fiasco the league cup winning team was good at watch as was the crunchy O’Neil team
His Derby record was woeful
McLeish had a good team but didn’t kick a ball after Christmas when they were looking good against strong old firm teams
Mowbray team brilliant team of kids wish we weren’t skint and held that team for a couple more years
Collins won the cup but with Mowbrays team
Think his ideas were good but man management was poor
Stubbs built a team from nothing
Great to watch
Has us fighting on 3 fronts bar a league stumble in February March and last minute goal v Ross County could have had us on a glorious treble
He even challenged teams in the premier in cup games
Would have had us competing comfortably in the top flight
Pity he left when he did has not gone well for him since
All round I would say Stubbs

Northernhibee
12-09-2022, 01:44 PM
Why do you think he's failed in his two jobs since and not managed for a few years now?

Not a dig at him as I love the guy and enjoyed his company when he was at the club, interested to hear people's opinion on why he's gone downhill in management since that day.
I honestly don’t care what he’s done since, he could **** my partner, pan in my cars windscreen and punch me in the face and I’d still apologise and ask for his autograph.

I loved that two year spell under Stubbs. The team of him, Taff and Doolan worked so well and is possibly why it didn’t work elsewhere. With us they built something special that even Lennon couldn’t dismantle within a couple of seasons (though the cracks were showing badly in season three).

Crunchie
12-09-2022, 02:01 PM
No contest for me really.

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:top marks

Crunchie
12-09-2022, 02:08 PM
Stubbs' record was poor, 14th & 15th best in his two seasons, but finished on the highest of highs - rightly the most POPULAR, popular not necessarily same as BEST, which for me would be McLeish or Mowbray, difficult to choose.
Stubbs record was poor? **** me the mind boggles at some of the stuff on here. He started with about 7 players at his disposal and won us the Holy Grail ffs. What the guy did was nothing short of a miracle, and he nearly won us 2 cups in the 1 season.

Crunchie
12-09-2022, 02:12 PM
[/B]You could say most of that about Stubbs

Miller never had the backing of the support Alan had.
Alex thinks it was just all about his rAngers connection
Credit the cup win,but some of the football was dire
I think he was at Hibs far too long and signing his sons didnt go down well either .
Not just with fans
He did go on to have a good coaching career,it must be said.
I always thought if he fell down a siver he would come up with a lollypop :greengrin
Hibs fans got sick of his derby results, end of story. He had some great entertaining teams but against them we always seemed to blow it.

makaveli1875
12-09-2022, 02:14 PM
Stubbsy .

Since452
12-09-2022, 02:19 PM
Stubbs would have won promotion if he'd stayed after the cup win and i'd wager it would have been more enjoyable than the turgid season under Lennon. If he had stayed and finished 3rd/4th in the Prem he'd probably have been at the top of the list. Started enjoying watching Hibs again under Stubbs. A huge amount of credit needs to go to Doolan and Taff as well.

angus hibby
12-09-2022, 07:43 PM
Stubbs would have won promotion if he'd stayed after the cup win and i'd wager it would have been more enjoyable than the turgid season under Lennon. If he had stayed and finished 3rd/4th in the Prem he'd probably have been at the top of the list. Started enjoying watching Hibs again under Stubbs. A huge amount of credit needs to go to Doolan and Taff as well.

Correct. Stubbs gets my vote too. We were in the main very good to watch under him and most of his signings understood Hibs and there was a real connection between the players and the support, even without the cup win.

Donegal Hibby
12-09-2022, 09:33 PM
Miller for me ,. Managed Hibs through a awful time and to beat rangers in semi final with the team they had then was amazing and won the cup also took in some of my favourite players Jackson , Wright , O'Neil , McGinley ,Archibald ,McLeod too .

sadtom
13-09-2022, 07:53 PM
That’s a toughie. I think 4/5 realistic candidates

I voted for Stubbs purely because he delivered the holy grail. I don’t really think he was the best in truth.
As soon as I voted I wanted to change it to Mowbray.
The football under TM was sensational. Win, lose or draw, it was a joy to watch, going to the games was a treat.

McLeish did a great job and really enjoyed his tenure, watching Franck and Russell strut their stuff was as good as it gets.
However AM did have the biggest budget we’ve had and he went to ‘that lot’ which marks him down.

Loved Lennon’s time in charge. Played without fear and like Mowbray, we took on the uglies on their own patch regularly. Both he and McLeish probably came closest to getting the correct combination of good football and effective football. Style, steel and swagger.

Also hindsight has allowed me to look back on Miller’s time differently. No doubt much of the football was negative and dreary. But it was only after that it became clear the difficult circumstances he was working under. When he did get a bit cash to spend the football became much better and more attack minded. He also delivered a trophy.
Major kudos to him for seeing the club through its darkest years, would have been easy for him to jump ship but he didn’t.

Would also give a nod to Yogi, started well but a combination of bad luck and injuries saw it collapse.
A wee shout to Collins too, won a trophy, albeit with Mowbray’s team. But his lack of man management skills pretty much undid all the good work in the previous years, so not a contender despite the silverware.

Mibbes Aye
13-09-2022, 08:57 PM
Excluding the caretakers keeps the veil drawn over a few shockers but also downplays some sterling stuff by the various backroom boys who have had the crown thrust upon them.

I give you Alastair Stevenson, the ony manager of that period to have a 100% win record, thanks to beating Killie at ER with two (two)goals from the freescoring libero Chris Hogg.

I also give you Jocky Scott. First match at the helm for us, he oversaw a 2-1 victory over what was then an all-conquering Hun side. This included Brian Laudrup getting two goes in the space of a couple of minutes at beating Leighton from the penalty spot, in front of their own fans, only te denied both times :cb

erin go bragh
15-09-2022, 07:13 AM
Stubbs
Mowbray
McLeish

allezsauzee
16-09-2022, 08:06 PM
Lenny for me but I still think Hecky would have done the business had we held on to him a few more weeks and he'd have benefited from the return of Boyle and Doidge finding his shooting boots. He's doing no bad for Sheffield United.