Atmosphere for Killie game

[hibsbollah]

Reading this site and seeing the reaction at the whistle yesterday I fear for a toxic atmosphere.

I’d love it for three stands to roar the boys on from kickoff, anything else is counter productive, especially for some of the younger players, but there’s no point calling for that. It’s down to the players to create the atmosphere by doing what they’re paid to do, especially first 20 minutes. Im working so won’t make the game but I’m hoping the fans play their part.

You only perform well in a positive environment.

[green day]

Reading this site and seeing the reaction at the whistle yesterday I fear for a toxic atmosphere.

I’d love it for three stands to roar the boys on from kickoff, anything else is counter productive, especially for some of the younger players, but there’s no point calling for that. It’s down to the players to create the atmosphere by doing what they’re paid to do, especially first 20 minutes. Im working so won’t make the game but I’m hoping the fans play their part.

You only perform well in a positive environment.

If LJ picks that midfield and Doidge again, there will be only one outcome on the field and the fans will react to that.

Hopefully Ron is there to see and hear it.

[MWHIBBIES]

McInnes will know exactly what to do. Keep it tight and frustrate us first 25 minutes, crowd will get right on the players backs and made Killies lives significantly easier. He done it almost every time with Aberdeen. If we go for a first half like Livi and St Mirren, we will lose the match. Absolutely massive game. I think LJ will really struggle to recover if we lose it. Abuse he was getting at full time was already brutal yesterday.

[MWHIBBIES]

If LJ picks that midfield and Doidge again, there will be only one outcome on the field and the fans will react to that.

Hopefully Ron is there to see and hear it.

What if he picks that midfield and our new players let us down again like they did yesterday? I don't get this logic whatsoever.

Doidge could play like Pele or Ali Dia next week, it wouldn't matter if others fail. 11 players win, 11 players lose.

[green day]

What if he picks that midfield and our new players let us down again like they did yesterday? I don't get this logic whatsoever.

Doidge could play like Pele or Ali Dia next week, it wouldn't matter if others fail. 11 players win, 11 players lose.

My point was perhaps not clear, but the thread is about next weeks atmosphere - so many people are utterly pissed off at that midfield and our immobile striker that if they start, the grumbles will begin in the pubs pre match.

Which players let us down yesterday has been debated to death in other threads.

But I can guarantee you that very few people will be happy if we see that same midfield formation next week.

[hibee-boys]

If I didn’t have to leave the house 2 hours before kick off I’d be waiting to see the starting XI before deciding to turn up next week. Saying that, I might just stay in the pub if it’s that same midfield with Doidge ‘leading the line’🙈

[Johnny_Leith]

The fans will react to what is happening on the park. If there's a team going their all creating chances and trying to win then they'll get the best backing.

If we have players sauntering around not trying, hiding and giving up, then they'll hear about it.

[WhileTheChief..]

There won't be any chants calling for anyone's head.

The worst that will happen is that ER will remain like a library until the end of the game, at which point the result will determine the reaction of the fans.

We've been absolutely sound so far this season.

[hibsbollah]

My point was perhaps not clear, but the thread is about next weeks atmosphere - so many people are utterly pissed off at that midfield and our immobile striker that if they start, the grumbles will begin in the pubs pre match.

Which players let us down yesterday has been debated to death in other threads.

But I can guarantee you that very few people will be happy if we see that same midfield formation next week.

That’s the concern; it’s a downward spiral of poor play results in grumbling results in booing results in hurling abuse results in more poor play.

[Mikey_1875]

I wouldn’t have too many concerns about the atmosphere next week at least for the start of the game. The fans have been largely brilliant this season imo. As you say it all comes down to the players, show us from the start that the desire is there to put yesterday right. Start the killie game like yesterday and people will be letting them know all about it.

The club themselves can make a big difference as well by signing the players we need before Thursday. Go into Saturday with the same sub standard squad and perform poorly again then I agree it will be toxic at FT.

[MWHIBBIES]

My point was perhaps not clear, but the thread is about next weeks atmosphere - so many people are utterly pissed off at that midfield and our immobile striker that if they start, the grumbles will begin in the pubs pre match.

Which players let us down yesterday has been debated to death in other threads.

But I can guarantee you that very few people will be happy if we see that same midfield formation next week.

Ultimately the fans don't pick the side. If Johnson watches them train all week, they do well, it works, its part of his plan, then he should play them. He'll live or die by that choice but it is his to make, no one elses. If folk are going to get on the teams back before a ball is kicked, they should stay at home.

Boyle was as ***** as Doidge yesterday. Youan worse. They all need to step up. Not just the midfield or 1 striker. Everyone.

[He's here!]

There won't be any chants calling for anyone's head.

The worst that will happen is that ER will remain like a library until the end of the game, at which point the result will determine the reaction of the fans.

We've been absolutely sound so far this season.

Once Killie take the lead and we show no sign of being able to get back into the game I can see the booing hitting high levels.

[B.H.F.C]

Atmosphere will reflect what happens in front of us.

The level of support this year shows that the support, in general, are desperate for something to get behind.

[Shrekko]

Once Killie take the lead and we show no sign of being able to get back into the game I can see the booing hitting high levels.

Sounds like you’re relishing the prospect.

[Pretty Boy]

I'll be there supporting the players. No abuse, no vitriol.

Many of the aren't good enough but it isn't through lack of effort. They are what we have and they are going to need our support this season. My anger is aimed elsewhere but airing that at a game is counter productive.

[MWHIBBIES]

Once Killie take the lead and we show no sign of being able to get back into the game I can see the booing hitting high levels.

We've got back into games vs Livi, Hearts and Rangers this season, so this isn't likely.

[SChibs]

Reading this site and seeing the reaction at the whistle yesterday I fear for a toxic atmosphere.

I’d love it for three stands to roar the boys on from kickoff, anything else is counter productive, especially for some of the younger players, but there’s no point calling for that. It’s down to the players to create the atmosphere by doing what they’re paid to do, especially first 20 minutes. Im working so won’t make the game but I’m hoping the fans play their part.

You only perform well in a positive environment.

We need to get out of this mindset that it's down to the players to play well to create an atmosphere. Nah we're there first and foremost to support the team and giving them encouragement is far more beneficial than giving them abuse after 10 mins. Let's get behind them and try to give the players some confidence and belief

[B.H.F.C]

I'll be there supporting the players. No abuse, no vitriol.

Many of the aren't good enough but it isn't through lack of effort. They are what we have and they are going to need our support this season. My anger is aimed elsewhere but airing that at a game is counter productive.

The reaction at full time yesterday was about more than than just the performance IMO. Obviously the manager and players take the brunt of it but people are just so bloody frustrated with the neglect shown to certain aspects of the team.

[Lago]

Sounds like you’re relishing the prospect.
I think more than a few are sadly.

[Hibernia&Alba]

If we go behind, it won't be pretty. If the team show some fight from the kick-off, the fans will respond. A bit of passion, same as the Rangers game, is all we ask. It's when players don't look bothered what happens that fans get angry.

[LunasBoots]

Lafferty should be fun up top for our defence, Murray in midfield to cause our slow midfield problems.

If he continues to play the same midfield throughout this season the atmosphere will become more and more toxic

[hibeerealist]

I think more than a few are sadly.

There are NO Hibs' supporters relishing this mess, why would they if they support the club?

Just because some sound off, rightly, hardly supports your accusation that they are relishing it! Have a go at the fans and lets forget what is going on.

Our club IS in a mess, it has been this way for two years with little sign of it improving that is where the concern is from a number of our fellow fans.

[B.H.F.C]

There are NO Hibs' supporters relishing this mess, why would they if they support the club?

Just because some sound off, rightly, hardly supports your accusation that they are relishing it! Have a go at the fans and lets forget what is going on.

Our club IS in a mess, it has been this way for two years with little sign of it improving that is where the concern is from a number of our fellow fans.

This. Was a pretty hostile reaction at full time yesterday but I doubt anybody actually enjoyed it. I certainly don’t enjoy watching what we’ve become even if I have moan about it.

[wookie70]

This. Was a pretty hostile reaction at full time yesterday but I doubt anybody actually enjoyed it. I certainly don’t enjoy watching what we’ve become even if I have moan about it. LJ was very honest when the St Mirren fan shouted your brutal half way through his after match interview. He agreed his team had been brutal. He is calling out players saying they are not good players(good players make good decisions and we made lots of bad decisions today) so has went on the offensive. Again he complemented the Hibs support. It will be make or break for him if we don't get any more signings as he is going to start calling individuals out reading between the lines of what he said. That can offer opportunities for those not starting but can create unrest too. I do like listening to him. He has personality and is honest. I hope he get it right but he has very little to choose from with the available players

[bigwheel]

LJ was very honest when the St Mirren fan shouted your brutal half way through his after match interview. He agreed his team had been brutal. He is calling out players saying they are not good players(good players make good decisions and we made lots of bad decisions today) so has went on the offensive. Again he complemented the Hibs support. It will be make or break for him if we don't get any more signings as he is going to start calling individuals out reading between the lines of what he said. That can offer opportunities for those not starting but can create unrest too. I do like listening to him. He has personality and is honest. I hope he get it right but he has very little to choose from with the available players

It’s his team this - nine competitive games …his team , his performances …he needs to up his game big time ..him, the players and the board are embarrassing us ..fans have been amazing since the starry of his reign

[Spike Mandela]

Will be th first home game I can make on my season ticket.( shifts make my seasont ticket more of a donation than a commitment at the moment)

Relishing getting along to ER but not sure what to expect of this team.

[Billy Whizz]

Always support the team, and as it’s Hibs Kids day, should be a decent crowd. Killie should bring a 1000 or so too

[silverhibee]

LJ was very honest when the St Mirren fan shouted your brutal half way through his after match interview. He agreed his team had been brutal. He is calling out players saying they are not good players(good players make good decisions and we made lots of bad decisions today) so has went on the offensive. Again he complemented the Hibs support. It will be make or break for him if we don't get any more signings as he is going to start calling individuals out reading between the lines of what he said. That can offer opportunities for those not starting but can create unrest too. I do like listening to him. He has personality and is honest. I hope he get it right but he has very little to choose from with the available players

I’m still trying to work out why a buddies fan would be shouting that at LJ, the person sounded angry. :confused:

[He's here!]

LJ was very honest when the St Mirren fan shouted your brutal half way through his after match interview. He agreed his team had been brutal. He is calling out players saying they are not good players(good players make good decisions and we made lots of bad decisions today) so has went on the offensive. Again he complemented the Hibs support. It will be make or break for him if we don't get any more signings as he is going to start calling individuals out reading between the lines of what he said. That can offer opportunities for those not starting but can create unrest too. I do like listening to him. He has personality and is honest. I hope he get it right but he has very little to choose from with the available players

Lennon started to slate the players when things were on the slide. There's only so often you can blame the teams you pick.

[Keith_M]

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Boyle was as ***** as Doidge yesterday. Youan worse. They all need to step up. Not just the midfield or 1 striker. Everyone.


Sorry but I can't agree with that.

Boyle didn't have a great game but his effort, and contribution, was night and day compared to that of Doidge.

I defend Doidge when he's contributed to a game but still gets stick, but I honestly can't think of one single moment in that game where he did anything useful.

[Alfred E Newman]

We haven’t scored in the first half of any of the league games so far which is a damming statistic.
If we could just get an early goal for a change that would help to lift the crowd out of this gloom.

[Tambo]

What changes can be made for the team line up?

Are we relying on Darren McGregor to step in?

Did they not say Miller could play RCB if needed when he signed? I love Chris Cadden going forward but defence is not his thing and so far Johnson has gone with 4 at the back so he has not been a ke to play RWB.

3-5-2 Didn't work vs the Huns but would like to see this team.

Marshall

Miller
McGregor
Hanlon

Cadden
Cabraja

Kenneh
Tait
JDH

Doidge
Boyle

Doidge is a better player for me when he has someone beside him or near him.

Unless anybody comes in that is 😉

[BoomtownHibees]

What changes can be made for the team line up?

Are we relying on Darren McGregor to step in?

Did they not say Miller could play RCB if needed when he signed? I love Chris Cadden going forward but defence is not his thing and so far Johnson has gone with 4 at the back so he has not been a ke to play RWB.

3-5-2 Didn't work vs the Huns but would like to see this team.

Marshall

Miller
McGregor
Hanlon

Cadden
Cabraja

Kenneh
Tait
JDH

Doidge
Boyle

Doidge is a better player for me when he has someone beside him or near him.

Unless anybody comes in that is 😉

Nae offence but that team looks dreadful, especially the defence. And JDH in midfield and Doidge up front

[Tambo]

Nae offence but that team looks dreadful, especially the defence. And JDH in midfield and Doidge up front

Can that defence be any worse than a duo of Porteous and Hanlon on previous form? I'm sure McClelland is out at the minute isn't he?

Someone from the midfield 3 has to play as we don't have Anyone else for someone else to replace one of them.

[BoomtownHibees]

Can that defence be any worse than a duo of Porteous and Hanlon on previous form? I'm sure McClelland is out at the minute isn't he?

Someone from the midfield 3 has to play as we don't have Anyone else for someone else to replace one of them.

The defence is a big issue without doubt and I’m not actually sure who I would play there just now. I still think Porto would start for me.

Could potentially play a midfield of Kenneh, Tait and Henderson. Although the latter has been poor as well lately

[Tambo]

The defence is a big issue without doubt and I’m not actually sure who I would play there just now. I still think Porto would start for me.

Could potentially play a midfield of Kenneh, Tait and Henderson. Although the latter has been poor as well lately

I would be happy we that Midfield if it was named 2pm. It's something different.

[percy veer]

Once Killie take the lead and we show no sign of being able to get back into the game I can see the booing hitting high levels.

And I think we know who is going to score for them don't we.

[Wilson]

And I think we know who is going to score for them don't we.

I'll go for Ash Taylor.

[JimBHibees]

Once Killie take the lead and we show no sign of being able to get back into the game I can see the booing hitting high levels.

Sounds like you want that to happen. The support has been excellent this ason.

[JimBHibees]

I’m still trying to work out why a buddies fan would be shouting that at LJ, the person sounded angry. :confused:

Saints do have a particular type of opinionated supporter. :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

I'll be there supporting the players. No abuse, no vitriol.

Many of the aren't good enough but it isn't through lack of effort. They are what we have and they are going to need our support this season. My anger is aimed elsewhere but airing that at a game is counter productive.

I think some could be accused of lack of effort on Saturday.

[RIP]

There is a lot of disappointment and negativity on this board at the moment. And on Facebook. And the Bounce.

But hardly any of the young boys and lassies who lead the singing and atmosphere at home and away, seem to post on here. This board appears to be mostly for older lads who if they go to games at all (some are definitely far flung) generally won’t be the ones standing and singing.

I agree that the support at the matches has been excellent this season. We will lose more games but the key indicator will be effort and fight. If the players show it, they will get our backing.

However, as our friend @Hibsbollah states in the OP, this will only apply if we are making an effort to drive the team forward and we don’t see the insipid, tippy tappy, standing off and a lack of tackling shown in some matches.

If there’s a lack of bottle shown, the supporters will feel let down again.

[Smartie]

We haven’t scored in the first half of any of the league games so far which is a damming statistic.
If we could just get an early goal for a change that would help to lift the crowd out of this gloom.

Our first half performances have been generally woeful.

We’ve been better after the break in almost all our games.

Johnson needs to figure out why we’ve been so lethargic and lost.

He made the early changes against Rangers but you could have made an argument for changes after 20 odd minutes in pretty much all our matches since the St Johnstone game.

[Since452]

The atmosphere will only be toxic if we aren't performing on the pitch.

[erin go bragh]

Sorry but I can't agree with that.

Boyle didn't have a great game but his effort, and contribution, was night and day compared to that of Doidge.

I defend Doidge when he's contributed to a game but still gets stick, but I honestly can't think of one single moment in that game where he did anything useful.

That’s because he did nothing in the 89 mins he was on the park . We’re basically playing with 10 men when he’s on the pitch. It’s very worrying that LJ keeps picking him 🤷*♂️

[Carheenlea]

That’s because he did nothing in the 89 mins he was on the park . We’re basically playing with 10 men when he’s on the pitch. It’s very worrying that LJ keeps picking him 🤷*♂️

I wish no ill will on Doidge, but he can’t be enjoying playing his football when hopelessly out of form and knowing the fans are frustrated watching him, and the team struggle.

[JimBHibees]

Sorry but I can't agree with that.

Boyle didn't have a great game but his effort, and contribution, was night and day compared to that of Doidge.

I defend Doidge when he's contributed to a game but still gets stick, but I honestly can't think of one single moment in that game where he did anything useful.

Totally agree no comparison at all