Positives around Hibs

[Torto7062]

Are their any ?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Boyle and Marshall.

Honestly, on the football side of things, that’s it imo.

[Libby Hibby]

Commercially we are very efficient. That cannot be taken for granted. That side of the business headed up by Greg McEwan is a success.

The playing side in the other is a lot to be desired.

[hibee-boys]

We ‘might” not see that same midfield combination again🤔

[Jones28]

We’re gonna romp the 2028 top six finish campaign.

[makaveli1875]

the prawn sandwiches are top notch .

[Northernhibee]

Josh Campbell. Things didn’t come off for him yesterday and he didn’t have the right players around him in midfield but yet again he tried to make things happen, chased down every lost cause, tried to get into the box and showed a great attitude. Wouldn’t have subbed him off (would have taken Newell off for Kenneh) but I think he’s come on tenfold under LJ.

[hibee-boys]

We have a 3pm home kick off time next Saturday which means I can have a solid 2 hours plus of drinking pre game to help dull the inevitable pain.

[hibsbollah]

We’ve got Boyle, we’ve got Marshall. Club did well there.
Yoann looks promising, yesterday apart.
Some potential quality still to come back from injury.
We should still have cash at bank to buy more.

[hibee-boys]

Josh Campbell. Things didn’t come off for him yesterday and he didn’t have the right players around him in midfield but yet again he tried to make things happen, chased down every lost cause, tried to get into the box and showed a great attitude. Wouldn’t have subbed him off (would have taken Newell off for Kenneh) but I think he’s come on tenfold under LJ.

Has come on tenfold? Didn’t he do all those things under previous managers as well🤔 Chasing down, right attitude etc should be the basic minimum requirement of a professional footballer. Much as I respect that element of his game, which I agree is better than some of his colleagues efforts, which really isn’t saying much at the moment, he’s nowhere near the quality of footballer we need in midfield.

[MWHIBBIES]

Josh Campbell. Things didn’t come off for him yesterday and he didn’t have the right players around him in midfield but yet again he tried to make things happen, chased down every lost cause, tried to get into the box and showed a great attitude. Wouldn’t have subbed him off (would have taken Newell off for Kenneh) but I think he’s come on tenfold under LJ.

He was the worst of the terrible trio in midfield yesterday. Although I do think he's looked better this season.

[Northernhibee]

Has come on tenfold? Didn’t he do all those things under previous managers as well🤔 Chasing down, right attitude etc should be the basic minimum requirement of a professional footballer. Much as I respect that element of his game, which I agree is better than some of his colleagues efforts, which really isn’t saying much at the moment, he’s nowhere near the quality of footballer we need in midfield.
You need technically good players but you also need players like Josh who do the hard work and he does that very well as well as looking to get into the box for crosses and to create chances.

It may not be the highest of bars right now but Josh is one of my first names on the team sheet.

[Torto7062]

We have a 3pm home kick off time next Saturday which means I can have a solid 2 hours plus of drinking pre game to help dull the inevitable pain.

Perfect Plan

[Dmas]

We’ve got Boyle, we’ve got Marshall. Club did well there.
Yoann looks promising, yesterday apart.
Some potential quality still to come back from injury.
We should still have cash at bank to buy more.

Cabraja also, poor yesterday but has looked good in his other games

[J-C]

Big screens.

[Sir David Gray]

Martin Boyle is back which will help to mask a lot of the glaring deficiencies in our squad and in David Marshall we have one of the best goalkeepers in our recent history.

As far as positives on the park are concerned that's about it for me.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Boyle and Marshall.

Honestly, on the football side of things, that’s it imo.

Agreed. Clutching at straws just now.

[mcfly]

Club appears to be spending lots of money in big screens, electronic advertising boards and new hospitality

Forgetting the fact that fans only really care about winning football
Matches.

Priorities are all wrong.

Big week ahead for hibs - no league cup games either to look forward to.

Club has to give fans a lift with some real quality not 18yr old development players

[thebausburst]

Still money to come in from the Doig deal, long as we don’t waste it on the next big thing from Mongolian 3rd Division B team.

[Smartie]

Good goalkeeper.

Fullbacks are good, even if they didn't have a great day yesterday.

Centre halves who are much better than they showed yesterday and we should really now appreciate the guy that is going to be out injured for a couple of months.

All of the central midfielders are good individually, they just don't work together or in this system. Any of them might be part of a decent team, just not that 3 together. Kenneh and Henderson might also prove to be decent players.

Boyle and Youan should be good choices as the wide players in a front 3.

Several injured players might turn out very useful - McGeady, Mitchell, Magennis. I think we've missed Stevenson and he showed a bit of bite when he went on yesterday, something we badly need.

We have a raft of youngsters who should kick on and compete to get into the squad eventually. No consolation when our first team is poor right now, but it's better to have them than to have no hope of anyone breaking in over the next few years as the development squad is poor.

The problems are becoming increasingly obvious and we still have a few days to add to the squad. Surely to goodness we won't see that 3 in midfield together, ever again? Surely nobody thinks that a team who play Christian Doidge in the middle of a front 3 are going to compete to get into the top 6?

We know what we need to do. We're not far off imo but it feels like we're miles away. FWIW I don't expect us to do what we need to do this week and the first half of the season will be a dire struggle, but that's a shocking state of affairs given how many good players and reasons for positivity that we've actually got.

[SHODAN]

We're not Dundee United.

[My old man]

Boyle and Marshall.

Honestly, on the football side of things, that’s it imo.

Youan
Rocky
think that’s about it
maybe the boss

[Key West]

Youan
Rocky
think that’s about it
maybe the boss

There is still time to improve things.

[James70]

We haven't lost 9 goals to Celtic (yet)

[HFC93]

Getting rid of Jack Ross was probably the right decision.

[Spike Mandela]

we're not dundee united.

………….yet!!!!!!

[Hibernia&Alba]

We're not Dundee United.

There's always somebody worse off than yersel :greengrin

[Ronniekirk]

L J saying he needs to Nurture and Develop the players at the club right now

[MWHIBBIES]

L J saying he needs to Nurture and Develop the players at the club right now

If that's the route we're taking hearts and Aberdeen will be out of sight before these lads are anything like ready. Honestly, our club is run by ****ing idiots.

[Steven79]

We're not Dundee United.I came on this thread to say the exact same thing...

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[HendoDelivered]

The Gordon's and Kensell wont be here forever.

[xqnq1875]

The Gordon's and Kensell wont be here forever.

Ron needs to sell the club to someone who actually understands football he’s a disgrace


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[He's here!]

We're not Dundee United.

Yep, United are surely going to ensure we don't finish bottom.

[GRA]

Every aspect off the pitch we are doing great in terms of community involvement, revenue streams, fan engagement to name but a few.

But, as Ron said a few months ago when Maloney was punted, doesn't mean anything if the football side isn't performing. And, despite some decent players, that isn't happening nowhere near as often as it should. Buck stops with LJ there.

[HendoDelivered]

Yep, United are surely going to ensure we don't finish bottom.

Their season kick starts when they play us!

[Alfred E Newman]

There are only 33 games left till the end of the season, yesterday it was 34.

[loanheadhibby]

Josh Campbell. Things didn’t come off for him yesterday and he didn’t have the right players around him in midfield but yet again he tried to make things happen, chased down every lost cause, tried to get into the box and showed a great attitude. Wouldn’t have subbed him off (would have taken Newell off for Kenneh) but I think he’s come on tenfold under LJ.
Dear me if Josh Campbell is a positive we are in the toils big time.
The lad gives his all but has absolutely no ability.

[Bridge hibs]

Dear me if Josh Campbell is a positive we are in the toils big time.
The lad gives his all but has absolutely no ability.
Apart from the ability to control the ball on his chest, bring it down and plant it into the rangers net from 20 odd yards with his left foot, **** sake give the laddie some credit eh !

[Hibees1973]

Just heard Ron's son is resigning.

[RMQ1967]

Club appears to be spending lots of money in big screens, electronic advertising boards and new hospitality

Forgetting the fact that fans only really care about winning football
Matches.

Priorities are all wrong.

Big week ahead for hibs - no league cup games either to look forward to.

Club has to give fans a lift with some real quality not 18yr old development players

Easy to knock the club when things aren't going well but criticising them for spending on improvements that are actually generating money for the team doesn't make sense.

[Callum_62]

Just heard Ron's son is resigning.Resigning a longer term contract? [emoji23]

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[Northernhibee]

Headed to the Hibs Womens team game today. Fiver to get in. Enjoyable game, no negativity in the support and a fast paced game with plenty of skill on show.

First time at a Hibs Womens game but won’t be the last.

[loanheadhibby]

Apart from the ability to control the ball on his chest, bring it down and plant it into the rangers net from 20 odd yards with his left foot, **** sake give the laddie some credit eh !
Yeah lovely goal but Josh isn't the answer.

[Trinity Hibee]

Apart from the ability to control the ball on his chest, bring it down and plant it into the rangers net from 20 odd yards with his left foot, **** sake give the laddie some credit eh !

Absolutely was a brilliant goal but his performances (and others) overall is poor.

[Bridge hibs]

Absolutely was a brilliant goal but his performances (and others) overall is poor.Im not disputing that

[mcfly]

Easy to knock the club when things aren't going well but criticising them for spending on improvements that are actually generating money for the team doesn't make sense.

Things haven’t gone well for years mate.

We are a joke - even st mirren fans say that and our manager agrees.

Any extra transfer money we are generating is being wasted on new contracts for players who should have been shown the door.

It’s hard to be confident about our future at the moment.

[Glory Lurker]

Commercially we are very efficient. That cannot be taken for granted. That side of the business headed up by Greg McEwan is a success.

The playing side in the other is a lot to be desired.

I am putting a lot of store in the commercial department making a big increase in income. The football department has probably spent a fortune in pay offs and signings over the last 12 months that I can't see being matched by gate receipts and prize money. If it wasn't for what will hopefully prove to be a much improved commercial performance I'd be very worried about what our financial position might be.

[hhibs]

He was the worst of the terrible trio in midfield yesterday. Although I do think he's looked better this season.

Thought he was clearly the best of a poor lot.

[HappyAsHellas]

The biggest positive for me was that I couldn't afford a season ticket this year.

[Tambo]

Just heard Ron's son is resigning.

Who told you that? A jambo?

Would be great if true and a few others leave, Ron ain't here to ruin our club but like everyone knows he needs to get rid of people and get in someone who knows football and Ron can just relax.

I was hoping things would of changed backroom after Maloney.

But anyways positives would be Boyle back and Marshall. A few feisty undefeated games vs the Huns and diets was positive ( all though wins would of been nice)

Let's hope the hour lock in was a positive wake up call for the players and we have a positive week in the transfer market with ins and outs.

GGTTH.

[McGruber]

Are their any ?

Yes there are - there are loads of positives. There is also loads of negatives. New players, new manager, inconsistency - it's not all that surprising really is it. An up and down start to the season was widely predicted - even by the manager and so it is panning out.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Thought he was clearly the best of a poor lot.

Newell was the worst by a mile imo.

[phoenixfire]

Yes there are - there are loads of positives. There is also loads of negatives. New players, new manager, inconsistency - it's not all that surprising really is it. An up and down start to the season was widely predicted - even by the manager and so it is panning out.
Important player Mcgennis getting closer to returning who will make a difference to our midfield !

[JohnM1875]

Important player Mcgennis getting closer to returning who will make a difference to our midfield !

Magennis hasn't played first team football in almost a year. He'll take a good while to get anywhere near the levels he showed at the start of last season. We need someone to come into that midfield straightaway and make a difference. Big week ahead and hopefully we can make a signing to improve the first XI.

[phoenixfire]

Magennis hasn't played first team football in almost a year. He'll take a good while to get anywhere near the levels he showed at the start of last season. We need someone to come into that midfield straightaway and make a difference. Big week ahead and hopefully we can make a signing to improve the first XI.

I realize he hasn't played for near a year though did he not do some light training with the squad lately ? Know it will take time but he's definitely on the right track to coming back. Just being positive about things ,too many doom and gloom posts lately ,some even revelling in it!

[JohnM1875]

I realize he hasn't played for near a year though did he not do some light training with the squad lately ? Know it will take time but he's definitely on the right track to coming back. Just being positive about things ,too many doom and gloom posts lately ,some even revelling in it!

Aw totally, just having him back and fit for selection is a positive in my eyes. Just hoping too much pressure isn't put on him after coming back from so long out.

[JimBHibees]

The biggest positive for me was that I couldn't afford a season ticket this year.

Yippee for you ironically the two home games this season have been the most exciting for years.

[Paloschi]

We are honestly not far away from being a good side. Injuries have meant we can’t get a settled team on the park. We have been so unlucky since Maloney was appointed. Give it time and let the new players settle in. We always struggled against Livingston but deserved something from the game and played a St Mirren team who are in good form. I think our results against Hearts and Rangers are more reflective of where we are. We need a number 9 and another defender with Bushiri now injured but we aren’t far away.

In a perfect world we would sell Newell or JDH and sign someone else to partner Kenneh.

[Unseen work]

We are honestly not far away from being a good side. Injuries have meant we can’t get a settled team on the park. We have been so unlucky since Maloney was appointed. Give it time and let the new players settle in. We always struggled against Livingston but deserved something from the game and played a St Mirren team who are in good form. I think our results against Hearts and Rangers are more reflective of where we are. We need a number 9 and another defender with Bushiri now injured but we aren’t far away.

In a perfect world we would sell Newell or JDH and sign someone else to partner Kenneh.

I actually agree.

Any team that have guys like

Nisbet
Magennis
McGeady
Mitchell
Rocky
Dabrowski

Out injured would struggle, especially since 5 of them are starters or competing for starting places.

I honestly think if we add the centre half, centre mid and striker before the window closes it will be our best window in years.

I’ve got faith we’ll get them in.

[PaulSmith]

We are honestly not far away from being a good side. Injuries have meant we can’t get a settled team on the park. We have been so unlucky since Maloney was appointed. Give it time and let the new players settle in. We always struggled against Livingston but deserved something from the game and played a St Mirren team who are in good form. I think our results against Hearts and Rangers are more reflective of where we are. We need a number 9 and another defender with Bushiri now injured but we aren’t far away.

In a perfect world we would sell Newell or JDH and sign someone else to partner Kenneh.

When you say a good side is that a side that’s good enough to avoid relegation, get into the top 6 or push for 3rd right up until the last few games?

We don’t have a trusted left sided centre half, our “number six” has been binned after 3 games, our midfield three of JDH/JN/JC is by far the worse trio in the league (proven by stats) and we don’t have a centre forward.

We’ve played 10 halves of football in the league and scored in 4 of them (3 of which came in stoppage time and we’ve been in front for 1 minute.

Pinning hopes on Macgennis and Nisbet to come back and change the season is absolutely mental. They are both months away from doing that.

[Ronniekirk]

The B Team league Kicks off soon to help develop the fringes players for the future

[andyf5]

Ron Gordon is a hands on owner who spends time trying to improve the club and on the non-footballing side has done well.

[hibsbollah]

Yippee for you ironically the two home games this season have been the most exciting for years.

I’ve got to say, the main reason I go to the football at all is that feeling of celebrating a goal, the more dramatic the better, and in that sense this is the best 2 game start to the season I’ve ever had as a fan. It was ****ing magic, basically. That shouldn’t be forgotten when certain posters are feeling smug about not being a season ticket holder anymore :greengrin

Although I get 5 points out of 15 isn’t acceptable.

[green day]

Ron Gordon is a hands on owner who spends time trying to improve the club and on the non-footballing side has done well.

Thanks Ben - any news on transfers this week?

[Trinity Hibee]

Thanks Ben - any news on transfers this week?

😂

[Eyrie]

Our women's team won yesterday.

[Northernhibee]

Our women's team won yesterday.
Went to watch them for the first time and will be back. A very good game, fiver to get in and good football on display. A nice experience with not having segregated crowds too.

[patlowe]

Good goalkeeper.

Fullbacks are good, even if they didn't have a great day yesterday.

Centre halves who are much better than they showed yesterday and we should really now appreciate the guy that is going to be out injured for a couple of months.

All of the central midfielders are good individually, they just don't work together or in this system. Any of them might be part of a decent team, just not that 3 together. Kenneh and Henderson might also prove to be decent players.

Boyle and Youan should be good choices as the wide players in a front 3.

Several injured players might turn out very useful - McGeady, Mitchell, Magennis. I think we've missed Stevenson and he showed a bit of bite when he went on yesterday, something we badly need.

We have a raft of youngsters who should kick on and compete to get into the squad eventually. No consolation when our first team is poor right now, but it's better to have them than to have no hope of anyone breaking in over the next few years as the development squad is poor.

The problems are becoming increasingly obvious and we still have a few days to add to the squad. Surely to goodness we won't see that 3 in midfield together, ever again? Surely nobody thinks that a team who play Christian Doidge in the middle of a front 3 are going to compete to get into the top 6?

We know what we need to do. We're not far off imo but it feels like we're miles away. FWIW I don't expect us to do what we need to do this week and the first half of the season will be a dire struggle, but that's a shocking state of affairs given how many good players and reasons for positivity that we've actually got.

Not having a go at you personally but I think the number of mights and shoulds in your post kind of shows what the problem is. A squad full (and I mean full) of players who potentially have something to offer but nowhere near enough guys that you can really hang your hat on at this level, whether in terms of fitness, physicality or consistency of performance. To be in a position where, despite signing upward of 20 players since, we are still playing the central defence and midfield that helped get a manager sacked two managers ago is just incredible. I know some of the injured guys might make a difference but track record suggests you cannot build a team around guys like McGeady, Mitchell (even when fit IMO) and Magennis. And if the multitude of signings are not good/experienced enough to fill the gap you end up with the usual suspects in the team, a bloated, inert squad and little wriggle room to direct resources where they are needed most.

Sorry, appreciate that wasn't very positive :greengrin Boyle, Marshall, Cabraja (we think) and Youan (we hope), allied with Porteous, Cadden and Nisbet when back, suggests there is something to build on. I just fear we are too lost in this cycle of scattergun recruitment and squad bloat for LJ or anyone else to do so any time soon.

[Smartie]

Not having a go at you personally but I think the number of mights and shoulds in your post kind of shows what the problem is. A squad full (and I mean full) of players who potentially have something to offer but nowhere near enough guys that you can really hang your hat on at this level, whether in terms of fitness, physicality or consistency of performance. To be in a position where, despite signing upward of 20 players since, we are still playing the central defence and midfield that helped get a manager sacked two managers ago is just incredible. I know some of the injured guys might make a difference but track record suggests you cannot build a team around guys like McGeady, Mitchell (even when fit IMO) and Magennis. And if the multitude of signings are not good/experienced enough to fill the gap you end up with the usual suspects in the team, a bloated, inert squad and little wriggle room to direct resources where they are needed most.

Sorry, appreciate that wasn't very positive :greengrin Boyle, Marshall, Cabraja (we think) and Youan (we hope), allied with Porteous, Cadden and Nisbet when back, suggests there is something to build on. I just fear we are too lost in this cycle of scattergun recruitment and squad bloat for LJ or anyone else to do so any time soon.

:greengrin

I know what you mean though.

I feel like we're close, but we're also miles away.

We're short of a really solid and robust spine of a team. 3 rock solid, dependable players who play through the middle. They don't grow on trees and to be short of 3 of them leaves you quite short of being decent.

We have so many players who I reckon would thrive with those 3 but who will wither without them.

It feels pretty inevitable to me that we're going to have a very poor season, which feels pretty ridiculous given I'm convinced we've actually got quite a lot of positives.


Scattergun does describe the recruitment process well - we sign good players, or players with decent potential, yet fail to secure what we actually need.

We knew we needed serious work done on the midfield. In my world we'd have been trying to tie down the most important transfers in February or March. Instead we'll get the usual pish about the best deals becoming available at the end of the window and end up with nothing.

[Scotty Leither]

Ron Gordon's not told us we've had another "good" transfer window. Yet.