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Stuart93
28-08-2022, 01:15 AM
How many times.

Paulie Walnuts
28-08-2022, 08:20 AM
How many times.

And we had people on here trying to slaughter posters who were angry after the Falkirk game telling us we wouldn’t see the 3 of them playing together again.

5 games in and that’s exactly what we’re seeing.

MWHIBBIES
28-08-2022, 08:24 AM
And we had people on here trying to slaughter posters who were angry after the Falkirk game telling us we wouldn’t see the 3 of them playing together again.

5 games in and that’s exactly what we’re seeing.

You speak as if thats the posters fault or it was something ridiculous to say. Like we vote for the team or something.

Paulie Walnuts
28-08-2022, 08:28 AM
You speak as if thats the posters fault or it was something ridiculous to say. Like we vote for the team or something.

I don’t speak as if it’s the posters fault. Why would it be?

It was a ridiculous thing to say though because it was clear as day we would see them playing together again because of the shambles of a squad we’ve assembled and the inexplicable decision to play Joe Newell every week.

GreenNWhiteArmy
28-08-2022, 08:32 AM
Individually meh. Collectively brutal

How many goals have they directly contributed to whilst playing together?

MWHIBBIES
28-08-2022, 08:35 AM
I don’t speak as if it’s the posters fault. Why would it be?

It was a ridiculous thing to say though because it was clear as day we would see them playing together again because of the shambles of a squad we’ve assembled.

That game was weeks ago though. I certainly thought we'd bring in another midfielder in that time, and wouldn't give up on Kenneh so quickly.

Paulie Walnuts
28-08-2022, 08:38 AM
That game was weeks ago though. I certainly thought we'd bring in another midfielder in that time, and wouldn't give up on Kenneh so quickly.

Many of us never had any confidence in us signing a midfielder at all. If we do end up signing one though, I’ve no confidence they’ll actually be any good.

Sadly this won’t be the last time this 3 play together.

Kenneh, the manager appears to have given up on him already.

MWHIBBIES
28-08-2022, 08:40 AM
Many of us never had any confidence in us signing a midfielder at all. If we do end up signing one though, I’ve no confidence they’ll actually be any good.

Sadly this won’t be the last time this 3 play together.

Kenneh, the manager appears to have given up on him already.


Sadly I've nothing to offer you for this wonderful foresight.

Northernhibee
28-08-2022, 10:26 AM
Individually the three are fine but as a trio it just doesn’t work.

Id go for Kenneh, Newell and Campbell next time around, maybe swapping Newell for JDH or Henderson.

Stuart93
28-08-2022, 10:34 AM
And we had people on here trying to slaughter posters who were angry after the Falkirk game telling us we wouldn’t see the 3 of them playing together again.

5 games in and that’s exactly what we’re seeing.

Had posters telling us yesterday that we’re moaning before the games even started as if we didn’t know they 3 don’t work together.

hibbyfraelibby
28-08-2022, 02:24 PM
Individually the three are fine but as a trio it just doesn’t work.

Id go for Kenneh, Newell and Campbell next time around, maybe swapping Newell for JDH or Henderson.

With you mostly but I'd draft Stevenson into midfield instead of Newell withe Kenneh and Campbell...and why Tait is being wasted I have no idea.

Paulie Walnuts
28-08-2022, 06:57 PM
Individually the three are fine but as a trio it just doesn’t work.

Id go for Kenneh, Newell and Campbell next time around, maybe swapping Newell for JDH or Henderson.

Don’t think the 3 are fine individually either. I think all 3 of them aren’t good enough. You can possibly get away with one of them in there but not two and definitely not three.

As a unit though they make up one of the worst midfields I’ve seen at Hibs.

xqnq1875
28-08-2022, 06:59 PM
All not good enough offer absolutely nothing yet we refuse to replace any of them with some actual quality


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xqnq1875
28-08-2022, 07:00 PM
All not good enough offer absolutely nothing yet we refuse to replace any of them with some actual quality


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Referring to Newell, Jdh and Campbell


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Hibernia&Alba
28-08-2022, 07:05 PM
Horrendous, and I worry what will happen if they aren't changed.

The Modfather
28-08-2022, 07:08 PM
Horrendous, and I worry what will happen if they aren't changed.

We know what will happen with those 3. Relegation battles at worst, sneaking into the top 6 at best. Most likely safe from relegation but bottom 6 and waiting for another season to be over long before xmas.

Hibernia&Alba
28-08-2022, 07:11 PM
We know what will happen with those 3. Relegation battles at worst, sneaking into the top 6 at best. Most likely safe from relegation but bottom 6 and waiting for another season to be over long before xmas.

With those three, I would gladly take sneaking into the top six. I think that's optimistic.

Badge
28-08-2022, 07:12 PM
Referring to Newell, Jdh and Campbell


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Edwards, Stanton and Cropley

If only

Tambo
28-08-2022, 07:20 PM
Edwards, Stanton and Cropley

If only

Before my time that trio.

Not to long ago we had a trio of Mcginn,Mcgeouch and Allan who we all knew what their roles was.

Yesterday I had no idea what Newell and JDH roles was? Both sitting playmakers? Newell got forward a couple times all game while JDH wasn't involved that much.

We all know what kennehs and Henderson roles is but unfortunately they are young and unproven at the top lev all though I do think it was harsh if Kenneh has been dropped just because of the goal.

Dream scenario would be move on Newell and JDH in my opinion before I get shot down.

loanheadhibby
28-08-2022, 07:24 PM
Individually the three are fine but as a trio it just doesn’t work.

Id go for Kenneh, Newell and Campbell next time around, maybe swapping Newell for JDH or Henderson.
Are you kidding, individually the three are fine.
If we are to progress none of these guys should be near a first pick.

LaMotta
28-08-2022, 07:27 PM
Many of us never had any confidence in us signing a midfielder at all. If we do end up signing one though, I’ve no confidence they’ll actually be any good.

Sadly this won’t be the last time this 3 play together.

Kenneh, the manager appears to have given up on him already.


I'm not really surprised after his performances this season. Worrying that we have Kenneh on a 3 year deal. We really need a very good midfielder in by the end of the deadline.

Onion
28-08-2022, 07:44 PM
Are you kidding, individually the three are fine.
If we are to progress none of these guys should be near a first pick.

None of these players are top 6 quality. Collectively, they will move managers on.

He's here!
28-08-2022, 09:18 PM
Many of us never had any confidence in us signing a midfielder at all. If we do end up signing one though, I’ve no confidence they’ll actually be any good.

Sadly this won’t be the last time this 3 play together.

Kenneh, the manager appears to have given up on him already.

Surely he hasn't given up on Kenneh. He's only just signed him. I'm assuming he feels he's not quite ready yet. Not that that is particularly reassuring when we're desperate for a stronger midfield.

JohnM1875
28-08-2022, 09:25 PM
I honestly think under LJ that Campbell has been the best out of the three. I know JDH has been injured and just recently back, but think Campbell has been pretty good so far this season.

Been really disappointed in Newell, and I was one who was pleased he signed an extension. Just think out of the three he's the one who suits LJ's style least. Painfully slow in both pace and in terms of getting us up the pitch.

I'd be starting Kenneh, Campbell and hopefully a new signing (or Magennis when match fit)

Paulie Walnuts
29-08-2022, 07:03 AM
Surely he hasn't given up on Kenneh. He's only just signed him. I'm assuming he feels he's not quite ready yet. Not that that is particularly reassuring when we're desperate for a stronger midfield.

When I say given up, I don’t necessarily mean for good but he doesn’t appear to fancy him at all right now.

Kenneh is the type of signing we should have made on top of signing 2 centre mids that were ready to start games, not the guy to fix a woefully performing midfield having never played first team football. Plenty people called it out months ago and yet the club still haven’t done anything about it.

Everyone could see how the midfield issue was going to unfold. Football fans aren’t stupid and generally know enough to be able to make a decent judgement of what will work and what won’t. Most of us would agree that our midfield simply isn’t going to work and if that’s how it unfolds, we’ll be bottom six again and probably looking for a new manager before the season is out.

Calidad
29-08-2022, 07:53 AM
What’s happening with Tait?

J-C
29-08-2022, 08:09 AM
What’s happening with Tait?


No one seems to know, seems too good for the development squad, LJ said he lacked in his off the ball game, I take it that means his work rate and closing down but jeez have you seen the others in the team, they're not exactly wonderful at the high press either. Others seem to suggest there's a bit of a falling out with LJ, does seem weird that we need creativity which Tait gives you but he's not even quoted for the match day squad.

zitelli62
29-08-2022, 08:50 AM
Let's be truthful here every supporter will have his/hers idea how the line up and how the team plays and most people will have a difference of opinion but What most people will agree on is the midfield is crap and has been for the last couple of years and the only people who don't see this is the recruitment team which is very very worrying.

Paulie Walnuts
29-08-2022, 09:02 AM
No one seems to know, seems too good for the development squad, LJ said he lacked in his off the ball game, I take it that means his work rate and closing down but jeez have you seen the others in the team, they're not exactly wonderful at the high press either. Others seem to suggest there's a bit of a falling out with LJ, does seem weird that we need creativity which Tait gives you but he's not even quoted for the match day squad.

Lacks in ability to press yet we persist in players who lack in ability to offer anything in attack.

Using a lack of defensive ability as a reason why guys like Scott Allan last season and Tait this season shouldn’t get a game whilst continuing to play guys like Newell and JDH who have next to no attacking ability is one of the main reasons we find ourselves where we are. Utterly depressing to watch and unable to break teams down.

Still, at least we’ve got players who can cut the passing lanes and screen the back 4 to a decent standard.

A Hi-Bee
29-08-2022, 09:23 AM
Midfield 3! we have no bloody midfield 3, not even a midfield 2.
Crazy state for our team to end up in, definition o madness is doing the same thing and expecting different results.
i just wonder when the football god's will smile on us again.

:greengrin

Chorley Hibee
29-08-2022, 09:25 AM
Individually the three are fine but as a trio it just doesn’t work.

Id go for Kenneh, Newell and Campbell next time around, maybe swapping Newell for JDH or Henderson.

Rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic springs to mind.

Kenneh may need more time, but the rest aren't good enough and need replaced.

easty
29-08-2022, 09:51 AM
I still rate Newell, and think in a more balanced midfield he'd do well. If we're persisting with a midfield 3 then he'd be the the last one I'd look to upgrade...that's not to say I don't want better, I just think it's more important to deal with the other 2 first.

We need a sitting midfielder, who'll sit deep, protect the defence, win the ball and give it on to the ball players. They absolutely need to be aggressive. Kenneh could still be that player, but I understand why he's out the team after that Livvy game. We don't have another player who can effectively do this.

We need a dynamic/creative midfielder. I'd hoped Henderson could do it, but he looks a million miles away from being that player for us. Magennis was doing it well, getting up and supporting the striker, getting past him when he should. It'd be naive to assume he'll stay fit based on his last few years. We don't have another player who can effectively do this.

I don't expect us to get new players in both these kind of roles in the next few days. I'll be disappointed if we don't bring in a creative central midfielder to link the midfield to the front.

Hibiza
29-08-2022, 10:09 AM
Rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic springs to mind.

Kenneh may need more time, but the rest aren't good enough and need replaced.

:top marks

heid the baw
29-08-2022, 10:33 AM
We have 2 very decent midfielders who are injured. The worrying thing is that we knew about their injury history yet still signed them. Another worry is the inability to let players go. We just keep adding to the squad without an overview. Newell, JDH, Campbell ect are all decent players at SPFL level, but if they don't work well as a unit, move one of them on and bring in a player with different attributes. No point in bringing in Kenneh if you're not freeing up a wage and place in the team.
McGeady was a pointless signing, like I said a decent player, but injury prone and well past his best
The whole thing seems rudderless

SlickShoes
29-08-2022, 12:10 PM
What happens in training that makes multiple managers use and not replace this trio?

loanheadhibby
29-08-2022, 01:29 PM
We have 2 very decent midfielders who are injured. The worrying thing is that we knew about their injury history yet still signed them. Another worry is the inability to let players go. We just keep adding to the squad without an overview. Newell, JDH, Campbell ect are all decent players at SPFL level, but if they don't work well as a unit, move one of them on and bring in a player with different attributes. No point in bringing in Kenneh if you're not freeing up a wage and place in the team.
McGeady was a pointless signing, like I said a decent player, but injury prone and well past his best
The whole thing seems rudderless
What have you seen in the three midfield guys to say they're decent at SPL level.
They are hopeless.
Week after week Newell contributes nothing and yet is rated by many.
Maybe they're right and he's a player.

LeithMike
29-08-2022, 05:17 PM
I still rate Newell, and think in a more balanced midfield he'd do well. If we're persisting with a midfield 3 then he'd be the the last one I'd look to upgrade...that's not to say I don't want better, I just think it's more important to deal with the other 2 first.

We need a sitting midfielder, who'll sit deep, protect the defence, win the ball and give it on to the ball players. They absolutely need to be aggressive. Kenneh could still be that player, but I understand why he's out the team after that Livvy game. We don't have another player who can effectively do this.

We need a dynamic/creative midfielder. I'd hoped Henderson could do it, but he looks a million miles away from being that player for us. Magennis was doing it well, getting up and supporting the striker, getting past him when he should. It'd be naive to assume he'll stay fit based on his last few years. We don't have another player who can effectively do this.

I don't expect us to get new players in both these kind of roles in the next few days. I'll be disappointed if we don't bring in a creative central midfielder to link the midfield to the front.What role do you see Newell playing?

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Paulie Walnuts
29-08-2022, 05:35 PM
We have 2 very decent midfielders who are injured. The worrying thing is that we knew about their injury history yet still signed them. Another worry is the inability to let players go. We just keep adding to the squad without an overview. Newell, JDH, Campbell ect are all decent players at SPFL level, but if they don't work well as a unit, move one of them on and bring in a player with different attributes. No point in bringing in Kenneh if you're not freeing up a wage and place in the team.
McGeady was a pointless signing, like I said a decent player, but injury prone and well past his best
The whole thing seems rudderless

Not taking the piss but unless I’m having a total mind blank, I presume it’s Magennis and…? I can’t even think of another decent midfielder we’ve not got available?

easty
29-08-2022, 08:20 PM
What role do you see Newell playing?

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Linking the back to the front. Taking the ball from the defence, or from the defensive midfielder and starting us off.

When there’s nowt on in the final third, use Newell and start again. Newell is good at finding space and looking for the ball.

I’ve nae interest in this turning into a “Newell is *****” argument. If folk dinnae rate him, I dinnae care. People can like or not like whatever players they want. I personally rate Newell. I dinnae particularly rate the other 2 of that midfield 3 we went with most of last season. Campbell has been better than last season, I still don’t think he’s a good enough footballer for our level (or where I want our level to be).