Collum

[dastardly8]

Was on the same flight as me yesterday from Copenhagen to Edinburgh , heard him say to one of the guys he was with “ aye Easter Road tomorrow same as usual hostile crowd and properly the same result , he is one cheating west coast twat

[tonyrougier123]

Corruption to the core!
Bout time paying fans came together and demanded more action on that pish.

[Basildon Hibs]

You should've plastered that all over every social media platform on the planet!
Then people would see what every non weegie team is up against.

[easty]

Was on the same flight as me yesterday from Copenhagen to Edinburgh , heard him say to one of the guys he was with “ aye Easter Road tomorrow same as usual hostile crowd and properly the same result , he is one cheating west coast twat

Aye of course that happened.

[tonyrougier123]

That doesn’t make up for it either,he knows that penalty decision reeks of corruption that’s why he’s red carded him there.
Making out he’s just incompetent rather than pure corruption.

[dastardly8]

Aye of course that happened.

It certainly did , you calling me a liar why would I say it if it didn’t happen ya clown

[Dashing Bob S]

The cheating bigot, even by the low bar set in Scottish football, is an embarrassment. But he’ll be delighted. It’s all about this posturing clown and not about any of the players on the park.

[dp00]

He is a terrible ref , I’d be raging if we got those two red cards against us


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[I'm_cabbaged]

He is a terrible ref , I’d be raging if we got those two red cards against us


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Second one was a stick on?

[cannastar]

thought he left himself with nowhere to go once he started dishing out the cards and i wouldnt have said it was a particularly dirty game. im not usually one for berating referees but thought he brought his own grief upon himself with a few of his decisions.

[WeeRussell]

Second one was a stick on?

Yep. I’d be arguing against the first if it was us but the second one was simply nobody to blame but Morelos being a tit.. again.

Even Kris Boyd managed to admit that.

[A Hi-Bee]

Yep. I’d be arguing against the first if it was us but the second one was simply nobody to blame but Morelos being a tit.. again.

Even Kris Boyd managed to admit that.

Do you think, if that was Porto making that tackle it would have been a yellow, no way on this planet, it was a red and the second one was even redder, that ugly one needs to be banned from the game for as long as he stays in Scotland.

:lolrangers:

[WeeRussell]

Do you think, if that was Porto making that tackle it would have been a yellow, no way on this planet, it was a red and the second one was even redder, that ugly one needs to be banned from the game for as long as he stays in Scotland.

:lolrangers:

Perhaps not. But I would be arguing that a red was maybe harsh. (I shouted red when it happened live right enough).

I wouldn’t be arguing the Morelos one. Simply him being an idiot again.

[hibsbollah]

Do you think, if that was Porto making that tackle it would have been a yellow, no way on this planet, it was a red and the second one was even redder, that ugly one needs to be banned from the game for as long as he stays in Scotland.

:lolrangers:

The Lundstrom one was cynical, stopped a breakaway and was a nasty high contact as well. Just because in Scotland its often given as a yellow doesnt mean a red isnt deserved. Morelos No discussion. The foul count today was 19 fouls Us 7 them, he was given us nothing. The Rocky penalty decision was soft, yes there was a pull but well off the ball and you KNOW we never would have got that.

[Northernhibee]

Just seen the penalty, missed the first half. What the ****ing hell is that about? Blatant from Collum 😂😂😂

[Lancs Harp]

Just seen the penalty, missed the first half. What the ****ing hell is that about? Blatant from Collum 😂😂😂

Was more contact on Rocky at the other end. Very inconsistent refing. Was very soft penalty. On the sending offs, personally thought the first should have been a yellow, second 100% red.

[Libby Hibby]

He’s a cheat

[Mon Dieu4]

thought he left himself with nowhere to go once he started dishing out the cards and i wouldnt have said it was a particularly dirty game. im not usually one for berating referees but thought he brought his own grief upon himself with a few of his decisions.

I said as much to my pal, after the first yellow for Hendo he had nowhere to go, other than the blatent red cards I didn't think there was a bad tackle worthy of a yellow in the whole game, penalty was blatent cheating though

[Eyrie]

Looking at the major incidents -

Goldson bringing down Boyle for a booking - Sky didn't show a replay but live it looked liked he was the last defender, given Boyle's pace.
Doyle-Hayes chopping down a hun is usually given as yellow in the defensive half, although with no prospect of getting the ball it should be red.
Tavernier dragging down Bushiri was a clear penalty not given.
Bushiri's slight tug on Colak was a penalty, despite the exaggerated dive.
Yellow for Bushiri was correct, as it wasn't a goal scoring opportunity.
Red for Lundstrom - very similar to Doyle-Hayes above, so slightly unlucky.
Red for Morelos was correct - deliberate swing of the arm to hit Cabraja.

So I'd say Collum got four correct, two wrong (one each way) and one I'm uncertain about.

[The Harp Awakes]

Collum makes decisions too quickly. He should give himself a couple of seconds before calling it.

The Rangers pen was very soft. Their forward has thrown himself to the groud at the merest touch.

He should have booked their keeper for time wasting and there was far more than 5 mins I.T.

That said he'snot biased like Beaton and Walsh, just a bit headstrong.

[CMac1988]

Looking at the major incidents -

Goldson bringing down Boyle for a booking - Sky didn't show a replay but live it looked liked he was the last defender, given Boyle's pace.

Think this was when Goldson ran into Youan and chucked himself at the ground, winning a free kick. Would like to see it again but Boyle was away and it was never a foul.

Doyle-Hayes chopping down a hun is usually given as yellow in the defensive half, although with no prospect of getting the ball it should be red.

Don't like it but unfortunately it's part of the modern game and has been for a while. It's a yellow.

Tavernier dragging down Bushiri was a clear penalty not given.

Penalty all day. Bushiri should have put a blue top on.

Bushiri's slight tug on Colak was a penalty, despite the exaggerated dive.

It's a bit soft but still a penalty. Bushiri thinks he has a chance to win the ball as the pass back was a little short. Don't think he knows Colak is still there but hindsight and all he should have played it forward. Bushiri needs to keep his hands to himself in this case though.

Yellow for Bushiri was correct, as it wasn't a goal scoring opportunity.

Agree.

Red for Lundstrom - very similar to Doyle-Hayes above, so slightly unlucky.

See JDH but I think everyone would probably agree this is a yellow. If he raked his studs down then fair enough but I can't see why this was a red Vs JDH's yellow.

Red for Morelos was correct - deliberate swing of the arm to hit Cabraja.

Give that **** two reds. Bellend.



See replies for my take. Just a poor ref who isn't consistent. Don't think there's more to it than that.

[allezsauzee]

Not a chance he's biased. The penalty was a shocker but he wouldn't have sent off two of their players if he'd been biased against us. Fair play to him for having the bawz to send off 2 Rangers players, a lot of other refs would have bottled it.

[LewysGot2]

The cheating bigot, even by the low bar set in Scottish football, is an embarrassment. But he’ll be delighted. It’s all about this posturing clown and not about any of the players on the park.

Bigot?
:confused:

[Pretty Boy]

He's just a terrible ref as opposed to an out and out cheat like Beaton. I struggle to see how he keeps getting the biggest games.

By the standards we have come to expect in recent years today was pretty tame for a Hibs Rangers game. Yet everyone is talking about the referee and both sets of fans could argue with some justification he cost their team 2 points today.

[Broken Gnome]

Hibs would not have got that penalty at the Rangers end. Don't even know think it's that a disagreeable thing to say.

If the Morelos incident happened first, I'm not sure he would have sent Lundstrom off as it would have been too borderline and controversial to put them down to nine like that.

I think he'd have sent Porteous off for the Lundstrom tackle regardless of when it happened.

Shows what an absolute cluster**** refereeing can be, but also how easily influenced I imagine they all are.

[loanheadhibby]

It certainly did , you calling me a liar why would I say it if it didn’t happen ya clown

What exactly did he say?

[HoboHarry]

It certainly did , you calling me a liar why would I say it if it didn’t happen ya clown

Youre right, you said it on the internet so it must be true.

[The Harp Awakes]

Hibs would not have got that penalty at the Rangers end. Don't even know think it's that a disagreeable thing to say.

If the Morelos incident happened first, I'm not sure he would have sent Lundstrom off as it would have been too borderline and controversial to put them down to nine like that.

I think he'd have sent Porteous off for the Lundstrom tackle regardless of when it happened.

Shows what an absolute cluster**** refereeing can be, but also how easily influenced I imagine they all are.

You're spot on with all your points mate. Couldn't agree more.

[Bishop Hibee]

Hibs would not have got that penalty at the Rangers end. Don't even know think it's that a disagreeable thing to say.

If the Morelos incident happened first, I'm not sure he would have sent Lundstrom off as it would have been too borderline and controversial to put them down to nine like that.

I think he'd have sent Porteous off for the Lundstrom tackle regardless of when it happened.

Shows what an absolute cluster**** refereeing can be, but also how easily influenced I imagine they all are.

Agree 100%. I thought the Lundstrum hack was a red due to the height he connected with Boyle but the fact every Hibs fan leapt up and howled for a red definitely influenced him.

[Libby Hibby]

Agree 100%. I thought the Lundstrum hack was a red due to the height he connected with Boyle but the fact every Hibs fan leapt up and howled for a red definitely influenced him.

😂😂

I leapt up twice it was that bad.

[WhileTheChief..]

He’s a cheat

In who's favour? :confused:

Both sets of fans saying he's against them!

[Libby Hibby]

In who's favour? :confused:

Both sets of fans saying he's against them!

The ‘penalty’ it’s down right cheating. They were struggling to score and up he steps to assist them.

If the shoe was in the other foot, I’m sure our forward would’ve got booked for diving.

[hibsbollah]

In who's favour? :confused:

Both sets of fans saying he's against them!

Yeah, but one set are Us, the others are ****ing disgusting bigoted knuckledragging huns.

[JohnM1875]

Honestly thought Campbell was fantastic today! Really impressive Performance

[007]

Wouldn't surprise me if he looked at the penalty incident at half-time and realised how dodgy the decision was so gave Lungestram a red, when he would normally have given yellow, in a bizarre attempt at evening it up.

[WestCoastHibby]

Willie Collum loves himself , of that there’s no doubt but people really do get their knickers in a twist because of him far too easily

[Helensburghhibs]

One of the very few people who unite Scottish football. Andy walker is another

[WhileTheChief..]

Yeah, but one set are Us, the others are ****ing disgusting bigoted knuckledragging huns.

Fair point, eloquently put :greengrin

[Silky]

Wouldn't surprise me if he looked at the penalty incident at half-time and realised how dodgy the decision was so gave Lungestram a red, when he would normally have given yellow, in a bizarre attempt at evening it up.

I think that did merit a red though! There was no attempt to play the ball, he was off the ground and was reckless. Porteous was sent off at Ibrox for being reckless and off the ground, despite winning the ball. Boyle gets hacked every week. A lot of creative players in our league do. It's about time tackles like that were called out. I don't think Collum is a very good ref, but for me that was a red. We want consistency and if Ryan walks at Ibrox, then Lundstram walks at ER.

[007]

I think that did merit a red though! There was no attempt to play the ball, he was off the ground and was reckless. Porteous was sent off at Ibrox for being reckless and off the ground, despite winning the ball. Boyle gets hacked every week. A lot of creative players in our league do. It's about time tackles like that were called out. I don't think Collum is a very good ref, but for me that was a red. We want consistency and if Ryan walks at Ibrox, then Lundstram walks at ER.

I agree, I think a red was correct but was surprised Collum didn't give just a yellow.

[matty_f]

I'm surprised that anyone thinks the penalties decision was correct. Rocky touches him but there's nothing in that at all. Never a penalty in a million years, and the Rangers player bought it by throwing himself to the ground.

[phoenixfire]

I'm surprised that anyone thinks the penalties decision was correct. Rocky touches him but there's nothing in that at all. Never a penalty in a million years, and the Rangers player bought it by throwing himself to the ground.

Rangers player went down with very little contact , down like he had been hit by a bus! He done it earlier in match and bought a free kick too ! Rocky's was more a penalty ,he was getting dragged down ! Two penalty claims ref got wrong way around imo!

[JohnM1875]

I'm surprised that anyone thinks the penalties decision was correct. Rocky touches him but there's nothing in that at all. Never a penalty in a million years, and the Rangers player bought it by throwing himself to the ground.

Would we get that in their box? 44/45 minute or not. Absolutely no chance.

[phoenixfire]

Think he got both sending offs right ! Surprised there wasn't a third at the end that barisic lost the plot at ref ! Looked a total nut job btw

[hibsbollah]

Would we get that in their box? 44/45 minute or not. Absolutely no chance.

That’s always the question you’ve got to ask yourself, when reviewing these decisions. If you say , Well, Rocky’s to blame because there’s a ‘chance’ you’re giving the ref ‘a decision to make’ or whatever, that’s just ignoring the fact that we NEVER EVER get those kind of penalty decisions against The Rangers and the boots on the other foot.

[matty_f]

That’s always the question you’ve got to ask yourself, when reviewing these decisions. If you say , Well, Rocky’s to blame because there’s a ‘chance’ you’re giving the ref ‘a decision to make’ or whatever, that’s just ignoring the fact that we NEVER EVER get those kind of penalty decisions against The Rangers and the boots on the other foot.

We'd already seen we don't get those decisions in their box.

Touching someone in the box isn't a foul, Rocky's put his hands on him but he's not fouled or impeded him, the boy's dived and the ref's bought it.

[hibsbollah]

We'd already seen we don't get those decisions in their box.

Touching someone in the box isn't a foul, Rocky's put his hands on him but he's not fouled or impeded him, the boy's dived and the ref's bought it.

I had a boy behind me abusing Rocky; screaming ‘****ing idiot! ****ing idiot!’ ‘It’s a penalty! The refs got it right!’ For about 10 minutes into the second half. It’s like he wanted to tell everyone around him booing at Collum that he was cleverer than everyone else :greengrin

[Scouse Hibee]

I think that did merit a red though! There was no attempt to play the ball, he was off the ground and was reckless. Porteous was sent off at Ibrox for being reckless and off the ground, despite winning the ball. Boyle gets hacked every week. A lot of creative players in our league do. It's about time tackles like that were called out. I don't think Collum is a very good ref, but for me that was a red. We want consistency and if Ryan walks at Ibrox, then Lundstram walks at ER.


It was never a red card in a million years for me, stoped the counter attack and was taking one for the team, it should have been yellow but I’ll take the the red with gratitude 😀

[phoenixfire]

It was never a red card in a million years for me, stoped the counter attack and was taking one for the team, it should have been yellow but I’ll take the the red with gratitude 😀

Feet off the ground , studs showing , you could argue it's a tackle from the back too ! Red card all day long for me ! Specially with some of the terrible decisions they have got against us over the years! Pay backs a b***h:greengrin

[plhibs]

If it was reversed and Porto made the same tackle on Kent at Hunbox what do you think would have happened.

[Waxy]

It was never a red card in a million years for me, stoped the counter attack and was taking one for the team, it should have been yellow but I’ll take the the red with gratitude 😀

I thought it was a straight red. Just lunging at a player to bring him down with no chance of getting the ball.Red card.
Campbell earlier at least was going for the ball.

[Smartie]

Referee was terrible at the big calls.

Should either both have been penalties or neither and I thought that Lundstram’s tackle was no different to JDH’s first half. Morelos can have no complaints.

Overall, they evened themselves out and a draw was a fair result but that’s not what you want.

Again though, might be worth having some sympathy for the referee? He gets one look, from one angle.

Bushiri being held - happens at every corner. Rangers penalty - might have looked worse from Collum’s angle, and there was contact. Lundram’s tackle was a hefty lunge with no attempt to win the ball, ref might have been forgiven for thinking that it was worse than it actually was (simply a good foul, a trip, a definite yellow to stop us in our tracks).

And it was refreshing to have Morelos sent off for a clear red card offence, doesn’t happen often enough. But he’ll swing elbows carelessly when he’s so used to getting away with murder in this fixture.

Tin hat on - I think VAR would have got them all right and the game may have taken a different direction as a result.

[gbhibby]

Let's give the ref some praise sending off 2 Rangers players in one game. Has that ever happened against them?
Over to you BILLYHIBS.

[hibby rae]

Was on the same flight as me yesterday from Copenhagen to Edinburgh , heard him say to one of the guys he was with “ aye Easter Road tomorrow same as usual hostile crowd and properly the same result , he is one cheating west coast twat

"Who's the Fenian in the black?" :aok::aok:

[Since90+2]

Referee was terrible at the big calls.

Should either both have been penalties or neither and I thought that Lundstram’s tackle was no different to JDH’s first half. Morelos can have no complaints.

Overall, they evened themselves out and a draw was a fair result but that’s not what you want.

Again though, might be worth having some sympathy for the referee? He gets one look, from one angle.

Bushiri being held - happens at every corner. Rangers penalty - might have looked worse from Collum’s angle, and there was contact. Lundram’s tackle was a hefty lunge with no attempt to win the ball, ref might have been forgiven for thinking that it was worse than it actually was (simply a good foul, a trip, a definite yellow to stop us in our tracks).

And it was refreshing to have Morelos sent off for a clear red card offence, doesn’t happen often enough. But he’ll swing elbows carelessly when he’s so used to getting away with murder in this fixture.

Tin hat on - I think VAR would have got them all right and the game may have taken a different direction as a result.

The thing is, if the initial penalty is given the other incidents don't happen (not saying other incidents wouldn't have).

[RyeSloan]

"Who's the Fenian in the black?" :aok::aok:

Got to hand it to the Huns for that one…might make the festivals top 10 one liners list [emoji1787][emoji1787]

[The_Sauz]

We'd already seen we don't get those decisions in their box.

Touching someone in the box isn't a foul, Rocky's put his hands on him but he's not fouled or impeded him, the boy's dived and the ref's bought it.
I think it was more the ES offical who gave it than Collum:agree:

[dastardly8]

What exactly did he say?

He said what I said , Easter Road tomorrow usual hostile crowd and probably the same result

[LewysGot2]

He said what I said , Easter Road tomorrow usual hostile crowd and probably the same result

I mean, he's not wrong about the first bit is he?

The atmosphere is always hostile between the two clubs.

He's a Roman Catholic teacher of RE in a RC school.


He's not Brother Beaton.

He's just Mr Bean with a whistle.

[JimBHibees]

We'd already seen we don't get those decisions in their box.

Touching someone in the box isn't a foul, Rocky's put his hands on him but he's not fouled or impeded him, the boy's dived and the ref's bought it.

Yep never a penalty in a million years. Question you need to ask is which teams in the league would have got that decision? One maybe two.

[matty_f]

Referee was terrible at the big calls.

Should either both have been penalties or neither and I thought that Lundstram’s tackle was no different to JDH’s first half. Morelos can have no complaints.

Overall, they evened themselves out and a draw was a fair result but that’s not what you want.

Again though, might be worth having some sympathy for the referee? He gets one look, from one angle.

Bushiri being held - happens at every corner. Rangers penalty - might have looked worse from Collum’s angle, and there was contact. Lundram’s tackle was a hefty lunge with no attempt to win the ball, ref might have been forgiven for thinking that it was worse than it actually was (simply a good foul, a trip, a definite yellow to stop us in our tracks).

And it was refreshing to have Morelos sent off for a clear red card offence, doesn’t happen often enough. But he’ll swing elbows carelessly when he’s so used to getting away with murder in this fixture.

Tin hat on - I think VAR would have got them all right and the game may have taken a different direction as a result.

I don’t agree with the both/neither assessment of the penalty incidents. One is a clear foul and should have been a penalty, the other is a dive from the striker SB should have been a foul and a booking for simulation. Making contact is not a foul, making the amount of contact that Rocky did is never, ever a foul. I feel like we’ve been talked into believing that any touch is a foul and that players are entitled to go down.

If what Rocky did is enough for a foul then we’re going to see free kicks at every throw in, every corner, every time a player challenges for a header etc.

He’s touched him, he’s not pulled him back with force or pushed him forward, i honestly feel like we’re supporting a narrative that it’s ok to cheat if you feel someone touch you.

[bingo70]

I don’t agree with the both/neither assessment of the penalty incidents. One is a clear foul and should have been a penalty, the other is a dive from the striker SB should have been a foul and a booking for simulation. Making contact is not a foul, making the amount of contact that Rocky did is never, ever a foul. I feel like we’ve been talked into believing that any touch is a foul and that players are entitled to go down.

If what Rocky did is enough for a foul then we’re going to see free kicks at every throw in, every corner, every time a player challenges for a header etc.

He’s touched him, he’s not pulled him back with force or pushed him forward, i honestly feel like we’re supporting a narrative that it’s ok to cheat if you feel someone touch you.

I’m too lazy to read the whole thread so apologies if this has been well covered already but regarding the Lundstrom one, as much as I think it was relatively soft, if it was Porteous that made that challenge there would have been an outcry about it being reckless and dangerous etc.

At the time I thought it was a shocker and a red card all day long, I can see why it looked soft on the tele though.

[matty_f]

I’m too lazy to read the whole thread so apologies if this has been well covered already but regarding the Lundstrom one, as much as I think it was relatively soft, if it was Porteous that made that challenge there would have been an outcry about it being reckless and dangerous etc.

At the time I thought it was a shocker and a red card all day long, I can see why it looked soft on the tele though.

I think the big difference between Lundstrom’s foul and JDH’s is their proximity to the ball at the time of making the challenge. JDH is late but looks more of a mistimed tackle than a cynical foul (it was a cynical foul but you could see how he gets the benefit of the doubt).

Lundstrom’s not even in the same postcode as the ball when he goes through Boyle. There’s no chance of playing the ball so his only intention has been to kick Boyle.

Porteous would 100% have been sent off for it. There’s no question.

[hibbie02]

Interesting that in the Newcastle v City game, the ref gave a straight red to Trippier for a similar “tackle” to Lundstrum and overturned it on VAR.


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[007]

Interesting that in the Newcastle v City game, the ref gave a straight red to Trippier for a similar “tackle” to Lundstrum and overturned it on VAR.


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Yes it was similar, more so than JDH's. The difference with Trippier's (appropriate name) was that he came from the side vs Lundstram from behind, but the impact was similar, catching him on the knee and wiping him out. Didn't hit him particularly hard but were going very fast so for me that's dangerous.

[hibsbollah]

Not enough talk about the foul count, 19 against us 7 against them. Did anyone really think that was indicative of the game? He favoured them throughout, the fact the huns are crying about the red cards just tells you about their rancid sense of entitlement. **** them.

[Pretty Boy]

I mean, he's not wrong about the first bit is he?

The atmosphere is always hostile between the two clubs.

He's a Roman Catholic teacher of RE in a RC school.


He's not Brother Beaton.

He's just Mr Bean with a whistle.

He's not. He left Cardinal Newman HS well over a year ago, might even have been before lockdown.

He works for the education inspectorate now.

[bingo70]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/willie-collum-backed-rangers-row-27794992

Spot on assessment from David Marshall there I think. On each occasion the player has given the ref a difficult decision to make and with refs scrutinised so closely now.

I’ve focused on the rangers penalty being soft, and it was, players got to take responsibility there too though as no need for Rocky to do what he did.

[007]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/willie-collum-backed-rangers-row-27794992

Spot on assessment from David Marshall there I think. On each occasion the player has given the ref a difficult decision to make and with refs scrutinised so closely now.

I’ve focused on the rangers penalty being soft, and it was, players got to take responsibility there too though as no need for Rocky to do what he did.

Yes, good assessment by Marshall I suppose. Rocky didn't need to put his hands on Colak. He gave him the opportunity to play the sniper victim.

Nothing though of our penalty claim with Tavernier pulling down Rocky, a more obvious penalty than theirs. We don't know if that's down to the DR or Marshall not mentioning it. Notice they call Lundstram's an innocuous trip on Boyle which is a p**s-take. It was at best a cynical lunge. Hope the appeal fails.

[jacomo]

Looking at the major incidents -

Goldson bringing down Boyle for a booking - Sky didn't show a replay but live it looked liked he was the last defender, given Boyle's pace.
Doyle-Hayes chopping down a hun is usually given as yellow in the defensive half, although with no prospect of getting the ball it should be red.
Tavernier dragging down Bushiri was a clear penalty not given.
Bushiri's slight tug on Colak was a penalty, despite the exaggerated dive.
Yellow for Bushiri was correct, as it wasn't a goal scoring opportunity.
Red for Lundstrom - very similar to Doyle-Hayes above, so slightly unlucky.
Red for Morelos was correct - deliberate swing of the arm to hit Cabraja.

So I'd say Collum got four correct, two wrong (one each way) and one I'm uncertain about.


I watched the game with a Hun and he was spewing at Collum’s performance.

I just think he’s not very good, although he didn’t get everything wrong .

[basehibby]

Collum got some big calls wrong for both sides - missed an obvious pen for Hibs and gave a soft one to them - but on the other side the 1st red card was harsh (2nd one 100% correct).

If you want to see a shocking referee performance check out the Ross County-Killie match - two absolute horror challenges from Ross County that entirely merited red cards - ref bottled it on both occasions thus failing to protect the players and unfairly tilting the game to County who took the points in the end.

[loanheadhibby]

I think the big difference between Lundstrom’s foul and JDH’s is their proximity to the ball at the time of making the challenge. JDH is late but looks more of a mistimed tackle than a cynical foul (it was a cynical foul but you could see how he gets the benefit of the doubt).

Lundstrom’s not even in the same postcode as the ball when he goes through Boyle. There’s no chance of playing the ball so his only intention has been to kick Boyle.

Porteous would 100% have been sent off for it. There’s no question.

Both yellows in todays football and the JDH tackle every bit as bad as Lundstrom.

[maturehibby]

Think he got both sending offs right ! Surprised there wasn't a third at the end that barisic lost the plot at ref ! Looked a total nut job btw

After the Penalty LOL as he strutted back to his own half he was getting it tight for gloating at Hibs fans in the Lower West i saw him making several spitting gestures towards the fans .
Not out and out full spits but definitely spitting actions made several times towards the fans .
No Assistant Referee to see it and the fourth official was blocked by the rangers end all out jumping about .
shows you what type of a person he is

[maturehibby]

"Who's the Fenian in the black?" :aok::aok:

hope referee supervisor puts that in his match report and Colum reports it too
Funily not heard in highlights on BBC

[Northernhibee]

Open Goal's analysis is terrible. Halliday thinks the way that Martin Boyle has reacted has gotten Lundstram a red card, Kevin Kyle thinks its one of the worst refereeing decisions he's ever seen. Absolute Jambo/Glasgow love in and completely sickening. "Ten men Rangers see that out".

[JJP]

Open Goal's analysis is terrible. Halliday thinks the way that Martin Boyle has reacted has gotten Lundstram a red card, Kevin Kyle thinks its one of the worst refereeing decisions he's ever seen. Absolute Jambo/Glasgow love in and completely sickening. "Ten men Rangers see that out".

No surprise there.

[Jones28]

Open Goal's analysis is terrible. Halliday thinks the way that Martin Boyle has reacted has gotten Lundstram a red card, Kevin Kyle thinks its one of the worst refereeing decisions he's ever seen. Absolute Jambo/Glasgow love in and completely sickening. "Ten men Rangers see that out".

Ten man rangers had Morelos the basket case on the park. They also seem to forget that we equalised while the teams both had 11 men on the park.

I can’t ****ing stand open goal, it’s painful weedgie banter nonsense, and Kevin Kyle is the biggest gob***** going. He’s a pound shop Kyle Lafferty.

[007]

Open Goal's analysis is terrible. Halliday thinks the way that Martin Boyle has reacted has gotten Lundstram a red card, Kevin Kyle thinks its one of the worst refereeing decisions he's ever seen. Absolute Jambo/Glasgow love in and completely sickening. "Ten men Rangers see that out".

We were denied a penalty at around 20 minutes, they got a penalty that was never one in a million years and we scored 5 minutes into the 2nd half so we have a case to be aggrieved that Collum cost us a 2-0 lead. If the situations had been completely reversed it's a safe bet all the Rangers pundits would have been complaining about being robbed of a 2-0 lead by Collum.

I realise that had we been given the penalty the game could have taken an entirely different course (chaos theory/butterfly effect and all that) but at the very least, we should have had the chance to go 1-0 up.

[green day]

Open Goal's analysis is terrible. Halliday thinks the way that Martin Boyle has reacted has gotten Lundstram a red card, Kevin Kyle thinks its one of the worst refereeing decisions he's ever seen. Absolute Jambo/Glasgow love in and completely sickening. "Ten men Rangers see that out".

Andy Halliday and Kevin Kyle.

Wonder what they have in common?

A bit like the Daily Record stuff, it's not aimed at us. It's produced for thicko Old Firm fans from the West.

[Carheenlea]

Lundstram gets his rescinded.

After this week I bet Rangers won’t see another 2 red cards during the remainder of the season (in the domestic campaign at least).

[The Harp Awakes]

Lundstram gets his rescinded.

After this week I bet Rangers won’t see another 2 red cards during the remainder of the season (in the domestic campaign at least).

Incredible.

Pity we couldny get the 2145780347 dodgy penalties rescinded, which they've received in my lifetime following Scottish football.

[overdrive]

Two ex-refs don’t seem to have a good opinion of Collum.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/willie-collum-needs-a-rest-say-ex-referees-as-they-discuss-hibs-penalty-call-and-rangers-simulation-claim-3816012

Interesting one of them seems to think some VAR operators will be too scared to overturn decisions made by certain refs.

[007]

Two ex-refs don’t seem to have a good opinion of Collum.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/willie-collum-needs-a-rest-say-ex-referees-as-they-discuss-hibs-penalty-call-and-rangers-simulation-claim-3816012

Interesting one of them seems to think some VAR operators will be too scared to overturn decisions made by certain refs.

They speak a lot of common sense.

[JimBHibees]

Two ex-refs don’t seem to have a good opinion of Collum.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/willie-collum-needs-a-rest-say-ex-referees-as-they-discuss-hibs-penalty-call-and-rangers-simulation-claim-3816012

Interesting one of them seems to think some VAR operators will be too scared to overturn decisions made by certain refs.

Interesting there is no doubt imo a clear hierarchy in refereeing circles and incredibly cliquey hence the reasons only refs from certain areas get top games so these guys may have some personal agenda however their views on the decisions are fair imo particularly the Rangers pen which was never ever a pen. The refereeing set up is and never has been fit for purpose.

[hibsbollah]

Two ex-refs don’t seem to have a good opinion of Collum.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/willie-collum-needs-a-rest-say-ex-referees-as-they-discuss-hibs-penalty-call-and-rangers-simulation-claim-3816012

Interesting one of them seems to think some VAR operators will be too scared to overturn decisions made by certain refs.

That’s an interesting one. The two refs in question (don’t know if they were both from that same corner of Lanarkshire they all seem to be from), fell foul of the same sort of old form obsessed scrutiny that we are discussing; the first guy was harassed by Celtic fans after an OF game for chopping off a goal and not sending off Lafferty for an assault, and then after that he gave Rangers a penalty when Sone Aluko dived, and the panel banned Aluko afterwards for it. He was demoted and didn’t ref another top flight game. Celtic fans still talk about him online.

I don’t know if he’s anti Celtic or not but when you’re under that much scrutiny and pressure you’ve got no chance.

[JimBHibees]

That’s an interesting one. The two refs in question (don’t know if they were both from that same corner of Lanarkshire they all seem to be from), fell foul of the same sort of old form obsessed scrutiny that we are discussing; the first guy was harassed by Celtic fans after an OF game for chopping off a goal and not sending off Lafferty for an assault, and then after that he gave Rangers a penalty when Sone Aluko dived, and the panel banned Aluko afterwards for it. He was demoted and didn’t ref another top flight game. Celtic fans still talk about him online.

I don’t know if he’s anti Celtic or not but when you’re under that much scrutiny and pressure you’ve got no chance.

Pretty sure Conroy was on sportsound previously and indicated as a kid he supported Celtic also then went on to say most refs were Rangers supporters through the west where of course all top refs come from. Quite an odd character I think.

[Hibbyradge]

Hibs would not have got that penalty at the Rangers end. Don't even know think it's that a disagreeable thing to say.

If the Morelos incident happened first, I'm not sure he would have sent Lundstrom off as it would have been too borderline and controversial to put them down to nine like that.

I think he'd have sent Porteous off for the Lundstrom tackle regardless of when it happened.

Shows what an absolute cluster**** refereeing can be, but also how easily influenced I imagine they all are.

No, it shows what a partisan imagination can do.

Every single thing you've said is hypothetical and didn't happen. :greengrin