Minutes applause tomorrow for Andy Goram

[gbhibby]

I have heard there is going to be a minutes applause before kick off for Andy Goram.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

I noticed Rangers have said this.

[BH Hibs]

Without wanting to go over old ground this could be controversial.

[GreenPJ]

Why?

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Hibs have said nothing about this, but Rangers have, is it a Hun initiative? Which would be bizarre, as would any such tribute long after the event

[Crunchie]

It would be a great gesture, if it happens, I hope our young neds are respectful of our best ever goalkeeper.

The hun link shouldn't come into it.

[JimBHibees]

Hibs have said nothing about this, but Rangers have, is it a Hun initiative? Which would be bizarre, as would any such tribute long after the event

Wonder if we are being bounced into this. Personally don't have an issue with it however hope our more intellectually challenged fans don't embarrass the club.

[BH Hibs]

Why?

His posing with a UVF flag for a start.

[Helensburghhibs]

If it happens and you don't agree the sensible thing to do is stay quiet and don't clap.

[JohnM1875]

If it happens and you don't agree the sensible thing to do is stay quiet and don't clap.

It is. But not a chance of that happening I reckon. Too many of the younger crew I'd guess will just see him as a Rangers keeper. Can't see it going well

[Nakedmanoncrack]

If it happens and you don't agree the sensible thing to do is stay quiet and don't clap.

Correct, which I'm sure a few will do.

[Bushwoof]

This may be a a controversial viewpoint, but some credit to the huns for recognising that Goram was a well-loved player at Hibs, and thinking that a minutes applause or whatever when his 2 main clubs played each other was a good thing to do.
I'm struggling to think of many other occasions when the huns have deserved any credit, so fair do's this time.

[JimBHibees]

It is. But not a chance of that happening I reckon. Too many of the younger crew I'd guess will just see him as a Rangers keeper. Can't see it going well

They then need educated on the history of the club they think they support.

[weecounty hibby]

Great keeper, best I've ever seen. Signed for the hun, sadly many Hibs players have. Not all have got involved in the more unsavoury, bigoted side of the hun like he did sadly but i think he was given poor advice and too easily led. Still due respect for being a Hibs player for almost as long as he was a hun. As has been said, just ignore the applause if you want to

[JohnM1875]

They then need educated on the history of the club they think they support.

Absolutely agree with you. Still think it'll cause an issue if it goes ahead. Obviously hope it doesn't.

[JimBHibees]

This may be a a controversial viewpoint, but some credit to the huns for recognising that Goram was a well-loved player at Hibs, and thinking that a minutes applause or whatever when his 2 main clubs played each other was a good thing to do.
I'm struggling to think of many other occasions when the huns have deserved any credit, so fair do's this time.

This isn't their home game and personally not sure I would give them any credit.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Find it strange that they've announced it and we've not said a dickie bird

[Bushwoof]

This isn't their home game and personally not sure I would give them any credit.

It does stick in the throat somewhat.

[Billy Whizz]

This isn't their home game and personally not sure I would give them any credit.

Have they had a minutes applause for Goram at a home game?

[Brooster]

It is. But not a chance of that happening I reckon. Too many of the younger crew I'd guess will just see him as a Rangers keeper. Can't see it going well

I can't agree

[wookie70]

He was a great Hibs Keeper but surely this should have happened already. We have both had home games since he passed.

[Carheenlea]

Is this proposed to take place before KO?

Probably the appropriate thing to do given two of his former clubs are still playing, but as it is our home game it surely should be being led by us and not Rangers?

Maybe there is a communication still to be released from Hibs. Glad it’s an applause rather than silence..!

[derekduval]

They then need educated on the history of the club they think they support.

Maybe a picture on the screens of him in hibs kit. Like one of those panini sticker ones with birth and death dates below. Would also show the rangers whose in charge.

[Keith_M]

His posing with a UVF flag for a start.


I'd never heard of that but a quick search brought this up...

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What a weird thing to do.

[Billy Whizz]

Is this proposed to take place before KO?

Probably the appropriate thing to do given two of his former clubs are still playing, but as it is our home game it surely should be being led by us and not Rangers?

Maybe there is a communication still to be released from Hibs. Glad it’s an applause rather than silence..!

I had a look and it’s on their website. I won’t post a link

“There will be a minutes applause for Andy Goram prior to the kick-off as a mark of respect for a legend who played for both clubs”

[IberianHibernian]

A very strange decision if true . Would have thought a silence / applause at a Rangers home match would have been more appropriate if Rangers wanted that .

[Jones28]

It would be a great gesture, if it happens, I hope our young neds are respectful of our best ever goalkeeper.

The hun link shouldn't come into it.

Agree

[hibeerealist]

Andy Goram certainly enjoyed his success at Rangers, however, he also loved his time at Hibs AND the fee we received staved off a likely administration/liquidation.

Therefore I would hope our support recognise the contribution Andy made to the club on and off the pitch.

I was not impressed with some of the stuff Andy got involved in whilst at Rangers but as others have said he really did not appreciate how much this angered/upset a number of Hibs's supporters. He was married to a lovely catholic girl and he had NO sectarian views/beliefs.

However, when surrounded by people who hold such views/beliefs it would be difficult to not be seen as sharing these.

So on Saturday, lets show we as a support did appreciate him by clapping OR remain silent, Hibs class.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

This isn't their home game and personally not sure I would give them any credit.

I wouldn't give them any credit, more likely setting a trap of sorts to claim the high ground if Hibs don't fully embrace it

[JimBHibees]

I wouldn't give them any credit, more likely setting a trap of sorts to claim the high ground if Hibs don't fully embrace it

:agree:

[Gmack7]

I will definitely applaud if this goes ahead as he was the best keeper I've ever seen in a hibs shirt, however surely this is a decision made by the Home club

[Bishop Hibee]

I’ll applaud. As has been said, many Hibs players, some of them Hibs supporters, have signed for Rangers. Craig Patterson was at a party singing the sash etc after he won a trophy with them. The sort of thing social media would be all over now.

It is odd for the away team to instigate this though.

[Kato]

I'd never heard of that but a quick search brought this up...

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What a weird thing to do.Paid for events. If you're knee deep to the bookies, cash helps.



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[Kato]

I wouldn't give them any credit, more likely setting a trap of sorts to claim the high ground if Hibs don't fully embrace itTotally.

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[The Harp Awakes]

I wouldn't give them any credit, more likely setting a trap of sorts to claim the high ground if Hibs don't fully embrace it

Yes, exactly how I see it. Cue the weedgie press and BBC Scotland side show, if a few Hibs fans disrespect it. I can hear the rant from Tom English already. Hibs yobs bla bla bla....

[JimBHibees]

Yes, exactly how I see it. Cue the weedgie press and BBC Scotland side show, if a few Hibs fans disrespect it. I can hear the rant from Tom English already. Hibs yobs bla bla bla....

Absolutely

[Sir David Gray]

Unfortunately this has the potential to end up quite badly for us but hopefully our extremist minority who don't want to engage with any tribute decide to either stay in the concourse for 60 seconds or just stay silent, rather than giving the club a red neck.

[Carheenlea]

I'd never heard of that but a quick search brought this up...

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What a weird thing to do.

Given some previous bloopers I’m not ruling out this being the image chosen to adorn the big screen!

[Centre Hawf]

I will definitely applaud if this goes ahead as he was the best keeper I've ever seen in a hibs shirt, however surely this is a decision made by the Home club

It will have been. Rangers already paid tribute to him I believe not long after he died, this will be Hibs' one. But being we played Hearts first game I can imagine it made sense to wait for Rangers in the hope both fans can get involved.

[WhileTheChief..]

Unfortunately this has the potential to end up quite badly for us but hopefully our extremist minority who don't want to engage with any tribute decide to either stay in the concourse for 60 seconds or just stay silent, rather than giving the club a red neck.

Nah. It will pass without incident. Have some faith!

[Nakedmanoncrack]

It will have been. Rangers already paid tribute to him I believe not long after he died, this will be Hibs' one. But being we played Hearts first game I can imagine it made sense to wait for Rangers in the hope both fans can get involved.

If that was the case Hibs would surely have mentioned it.

[Mick O'Rourke]

They had a minutes silence for him before their pre season match against Sunderland at ibrox.
I added my condolences on the thread created here when he died in remembrance of a great goalie.
And i met Andy a couple of times in the old Barnton hotel bar.

I wont be at the Holy Ground the morn.
Had i been, i would stay in the concourse till it was done.
They are sure to burst into a no surrender type song right after it as well.

Andy sought to be pals with a group of men involved with an organisation responsible for the murders of hundreds of Catholics.
So i couldnt possibly applaud him.

I dont see it going smoothly and why has our club not mentioned this ?

[Centre Hawf]

If that was the case Hibs would surely have mentioned it.

Do we really think a month after he's died when they've already done a tribute to him at a game straight after, Rangers will demand this at a game away from home?

It's easy to see that this will have been Hibs' decision imo and it makes sense given his affinity with both clubs. I really hope this doesn't descend into anything like some people have pointed out. The man has tragically died and it would be a shame if this occasion was marred by anything negative.

[Since452]

Rangers at Easter Road is probably our most highly charged atmosphere. Maybe a tribute on the big screens when the players are warming up would be a better idea.

[Mick O'Rourke]

Do we really think a month after he's died when they've already done a tribute to him at a game straight after, Rangers will demand this at a game away from home?

It's easy to see that this will have been Hibs' decision imo and it makes sense given his affinity with both clubs. I really hope this doesn't descend into anything like some people have pointed out. The man has tragically died and it would be a shame if this occasion was marred by anything negative.

I know i have made my point clear on the issue.

But this is it again! Them! Its about them Not Andy,them! and their sense of superiority in the game.
No bad for a 10 yr old club.
Just as the club that died acted
This 55 nonsense,too They need to be noticed !
AS someone said if this goes ahead and its not "fully observed"
Fingers will point ,and it wont be at them.

[Centre Hawf]

I know i have made my point clear on the issue.

But this is it again! Them! Its about them Not Andy,them! and their sense of superiority in the game.
No bad for a 10 yr old club.
Just as the club that died acted
This 55 nonsense,too They need to be noticed !
AS someone said if this goes ahead and its not "fully observed"
Fingers will point ,and it wont be at them.

It's not about them. It's about us and paying tribute to a former player and one of the best goalkeepers the club has had.

If we don't observe our own minutes silence for a former player then thats on us and says more about our fans and deflecting it onto them helps no one.

[Mick O'Rourke]

It's not about them. It's about us and paying tribute to a former player and one of the best goalkeepers the club has had.

If we don't observe our own minutes silence for a former player then thats on us and says more about our fans and deflecting it onto them helps no one.

How many home games have we played since Andy died?
We have had ample opportunities to observe minute silence/applause
No need to do this along with them
Be different if there was some kind of cameraderie going on with them and us.
But there never has been .......Never
They seem to be orchestrating this unilaterally,and expecting Hibs to go along with it.
Caught us between a rock and a hard place,if thats the case.

[Jones28]

How many home games have we played since Andy died?
We have had ample opportunities to observe minute silence/applause
No need to do this along with them
Be different if there was some kind of cameraderie going on with them and us.
But there never has been .......Never
They seem to be orchestrating this unilaterally,and expecting Hibs to go along with it.
Caught us between a rock and a hard place,if thats the case.

So then just go along with and applaud the dead former player who played well for both teams surely?

There’s no morale high ground here, only morale low ground.

[gbhibby]

Club might not be endorsing this as we gave an end of season tribute to fans and players, which I thought was very well done. I think if there is applause it is up to each Hibs fan to either go along with the applause or not just don't do anything that will give the press an excuse to print negative stories about the club. There have been ex players whose deaths been missed by the club in the past with nothing said. Andy Goram divides opinion amongst us due to the company he got in with at Rangers. I would have applauded him if he had not got into bed with those individuals in Northern Ireland.

[Centre Hawf]

How many home games have we played since Andy died?
We have had ample opportunities to observe minute silence/applause
No need to do this along with them
Be different if there was some kind of cameraderie going on with them and us.
But there never has been .......Never
They seem to be orchestrating this unilaterally,and expecting Hibs to go along with it.
Caught us between a rock and a hard place,if thats the case.

Let's look at this objectively, we have played two shan league cup games and one game against Hearts that we know is a terrible time to do anything of this type and then it just so happened the next one was against his former club who also consider him one of their best ever keepers. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out why we're doing it and I very much doubt out it was forced upon us.

You don't have to be pals with Rangers to just pay respect for 60 seconds to a guy who died ffs.

[IberianHibernian]

Let's look at this objectively, we have played two shan league cup games and one game against Hearts that we know is a terrible time to do anything of this type and then it just so happened the next one was against his former club who also consider him one of their best ever keepers. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out why we're doing it and I very much doubt out it was forced upon us.

You don't have to be pals with Rangers to just pay respect for 60 seconds to a guy who died ffs." Why we`re doing " Still not seen anything from Hibs saying this is happening . Nothing on website in info for fans . I think there was something on website when he died so club have already done something to recognise passing of an ex player . Many other ex players who were held in high regard by fans were not given recognition . As for LC ties being " shan " , they were still competitive matches and club decided that it would not be appropriate to have ceremony to remember Goram if they even thought about it . Hibs fans old enough to remember him playing for us know he was a great goalie but I don`t know any Hibbie who thinks of him with affection and thinks of him as someone who would be remembered as a great Hibee .

[phoenixfire]

" Why we`re doing " Still not seen anything from Hibs saying this is happening . Nothing on website in info for fans . I think there was something on website when he died so club have already done something to recognise passing of an ex player . Many other ex players who were held in high regard by fans were not given recognition . As for LC ties being " shan " , they were still competitive matches and club decided that it would not be appropriate to have ceremony to remember Goram if they even thought about it . Hibs fans old enough to remember him playing for us know he was a great goalie but I don`t know any Hibbie who thinks of him with affection and thinks of him as someone who would be remembered as a great Hibee .

He was a great goalie one of the best ,sorry guys died truly I am ! Played for hibs and then went to rangers and really got into that culture worse than that he got into seeing a group that killed people ! There's been enough games to pay respects to him as previous it's poster has said it's about THEM ! Think respects have been paid over last few weeks time to let go !

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

They had a minutes silence for him before their pre season match against Sunderland at ibrox.
I added my condolences on the thread created here when he died in remembrance of a great goalie.
And i met Andy a couple of times in the old Barnton hotel bar.

I wont be at the Holy Ground the morn.
Had i been, i would stay in the concourse till it was done.
They are sure to burst into a no surrender type song right after it as well.

Andy sought to be pals with a group of men involved with an organisation responsible for the murders of hundreds of Catholics.
So i couldnt possibly applaud him.

I dont see it going smoothly and why has our club not mentioned this ?

Pretty much where I am with it, too. I won’t be applauding, I’ll just hang back a bit. I’ve said my piece and gave my condolences, that’s as far as I’m willing to go for someone aligned - in any way - with anti catholic, sectarian terrorists. Hope this goes without incident.


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[mayo hibee]

Under absolutely no circumstances should any self respecting Hibs supporter take part in a commemoration for a terrorist sympathising thug like Andy Goram. Just leave it to the Huns.

I appreciate those are strong words for someone deceased, but if Hibs are going to start commemorating terrorist sympathisers - and make no mistake, that is what Goram became - we are then no better than the two Glasgow clubs with regard to sectarian issues.

[CraigHibee]

Just tweeted by the club

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1560891821236027392?t=X_BG3YK-EAxTo_w-tEXvDg&s=19

[Jones28]

This has got **** storm written all over it.

[Sir David Gray]

Just tweeted by the club

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1560891821236027392?t=X_BG3YK-EAxTo_w-tEXvDg&s=19

The early responses aren't great!

[Helensburghhibs]

I might be being daft here but all I can find is one picture (stupid moment possibly) and a rag top article written from his ex missus who he was divorcing. Is that the extent of this sympathiser talk?

[Helensburghhibs]

The early responses aren't great!

Attention seekers shout the loudest on twitter usually.

[Hiber-nation]

Don't give a monkey's about the huns, I'll join in to commemorate the best keeper I've ever seen in a Hibs jersey.

[h1bs4life]

Now the club have announced it is taking place I will be taking part in the minutes applause in memory of his time at us nothing more.
Watched him throughout his time at Easter Road a fantastic goalkeeper only hope if the club put a picture up on the big screen it is Goram in a Hibs top only.

[Helensburghhibs]

Don't give a monkey's about the huns, I'll join in to commemorate the best keeper I've ever seen in a Hibs jersey.

I actually think this will be the overarching response. With some staying silent and a minority booing

[Hibs90]

Attention seekers shout the loudest on twitter usually.

Maybe they’ve got a point? Take it you’ve seen the picture above?

The club is so out of touch with these things.

[bigwheel]

The guys has died , a young man …if anyone has negative thoughts about him ( and I can understand some of the unease), why not just stay silent rather than disrespect a kind act of remembrance for him

[hibee-boys]

Don't give a monkey's about the huns, I'll join in to commemorate the best keeper I've ever seen in a Hibs jersey.

Here, here👍

[Jones28]

The guys has died , a young man …if anyone has negative thoughts about him ( and I can understand some of the unease), why not just stay silent rather than disrespect a kind act of remembrance for him

That’s how it should be. If you’ve nothing nice to say, say nothing at all. Wait in the concourse until it’s over. Anyone who actively looks to sabotage a minute of remembrance should do so by not being present and that’s it.

[bod]

Have they had a minutes applause for Goram at a home game?

That’s what I was thinking , pictures & maybe footage of his goal on the big screen for a minute .
Every ex player should get 1 minute before a home game

[Helensburghhibs]

Maybe they’ve got a point? Take it you’ve seen the picture above?

The club is so out of touch with these things.

I've seen one picture so far yes. That won't stop me appreciating what he done as a Hibs player

[NGP]

Strange that The Rangers requested this, since Andy never actually played for them.

[Crunchie]

Under absolutely no circumstances should any self respecting Hibs supporter take part in a commemoration for a terrorist sympathising thug like Andy Goram. Just leave it to the Huns.

I appreciate those are strong words for someone deceased, but if Hibs are going to start commemorating terrorist sympathisers - and make no mistake, that is what Goram became - we are then no better than the two Glasgow clubs with regard to sectarian issues.
You're not a spokeserson for self respecting Hibs supporters so you can respectfully keep your thoughts to yourself.

[Just Alf]

Maybe they’ve got a point? Take it you’ve seen the picture above?

The club is so out of touch with these things.To be fair it sounds, reading and listening to folks in the real world, that it's the twitter 'shouters' that appear out of touch with the general support.

[Antifa Hibs]

After being in the press after the Perth pub song incident, then again last week with the missile throwing against Hearts, you'd think the club would want to lay low. How on earth did anyone in the board think this is a good idea?

Barely anyone under 35-40 will remember Goram as a Hibs keeper. What they will know about him though is he was a UVF loving Hun.

Live on sky, a powderkeg fixture were both fans absolutely despise eachother and a minutes applause for a rangers supporting loyalist. What could possibly go wrong. Glasgow press will be rubbing their hands as we speak.

[Crunchie]

That’s how it should be. If you’ve nothing nice to say, say nothing at all. Wait in the concourse until it’s over. Anyone who actively looks to sabotage a minute of remembrance should do so by not being present and that’s it.
I always went to the toilet at the end of the night when in the lodge at Shrubhill, it was full of Hibby's and the like who didn't want to stand for the Queen.

[Hibs90]

After being in the press after the Perth pub song incident, then again last week with the missile throwing against Hearts, you'd think the club would want to lay low. How on earth did anyone in the board think this is a good idea?

Barely anyone under 35-40 will remember Goram as a Hibs keeper. What they will know about him though is he was a UVF loving Hun.

Live on sky, a powderkeg fixture were both fans absolutely despise eachother and a minutes applause for a rangers supporting loyalist. What could possibly go wrong. Glasgow press will be rubbing their hands as we speak.

My point exactly.

[Crunchie]

After being in the press after the Perth pub song incident, then again last week with the missile throwing against Hearts, you'd think the club would want to lay low. How on earth did anyone in the board think this is a good idea?

Barely anyone under 35-40 will remember Goram as a Hibs keeper. What they will know about him though is he was a UVF loving Hun.

Live on sky, a powderkeg fixture were both fans absolutely despise eachother and a minutes applause for a rangers supporting loyalist. What could possibly go wrong. Glasgow press will be rubbing their hands as we speak.
Powderkeg fixture? Don't be disappointed when it passes without incident, it really isn't a big deal.

[superfurryhibby]

You're not a spokeserson for self respecting Hibs supporters so you can respectfully keep your thoughts to yourself.

And neither are you, so stop trying to stop people offering their opinion.

[Since452]

Powderkeg fixture? Don't be disappointed when it passes without incident, it really isn't a big deal.

When was the last time a Hibs Rangers game at ER passed without incident? It's most definitely a powderkeg fixture. Hearts is a rivalry this is hatred.

[Crunchie]

And neither are you, so stop trying to stop people offering their opinion.
I'm not, I'm suggesting we join in and show our appreciation for one of our former players who's died. If you can't respect that don't embarrass the club with your faux outrage at the hun link and stay silent.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Just tweeted by the club

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1560891821236027392?t=X_BG3YK-EAxTo_w-tEXvDg&s=19

Belatedly when they've had little choice after the Huns decided this was happening.

[fife hfc]

Under absolutely no circumstances should any self respecting Hibs supporter take part in a commemoration for a terrorist sympathising thug like Andy Goram. Just leave it to the Huns.

I appreciate those are strong words for someone deceased, but if Hibs are going to start commemorating terrorist sympathisers - and make no mistake, that is what Goram became - we are then no better than the two Glasgow clubs with regard to sectarian issues.Anthony stokes is a terrorist sympathiser but we all celebrate his contribution and when the time comes (hopefully a long time yet) he will be celebrated for his contribution to the club and rightfully so. Why shouldn't a player seen as one of our best ever goalie not be afforded the same.

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[Crunchie]

When was the last time a Hibs Rangers game at ER passed without incident? It's most definitely a powderkeg fixture. Hearts is a rivalry this is hatred.
You mean like throwing a gas canister or the likes? what sort of incident are you talking about.

[Crunchie]

Anthony stokes is a terrorist sympathiser but we all celebrate his contribution and when the time comes (hopefully a long time yet) he will be celebrated for his contribution to the club and rightfully so. Why shouldn't a player seen as one of our best ever goalie not be afforded the same.

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[GRA]

I don't remember his Hibs days, I was too young, but heard many stories about his excellent performances. Let's put aside his faults, as everyone has them, and pay him the respect he deserves.

[superfurryhibby]

I'm not, I'm suggesting we join in and show our appreciation for one of our former players who's died. If you can't respect that don't embarrass the club with your faux outrage at the hun link and stay silent.



You are and now you're telling me to be silent as well. What does my post have to do with respect and embarrassing the club with faux outrage?

You're getting way beyond yourself in the imagination stakes.

The boy said he couldn't support a minutes applause , due to Goram's well dodgy links to terrorist groups. That's his opinion and it's a reasonable one.

You should calm yourself down.

[Crunchie]

You are and now you're telling me to be silent as well. What does my post have to do with respect and embarrassing the club with faux outrage?

You're getting way beyond yourself in the imagination stakes.

The boy said he couldn't support a minutes applause , due to Goram's well dodgy links to terrorist groups. That's his opinion and it's a reasonable one.

You should calm yourself down.
I'm calmer than calm :aok:. I know what I say on here unfortunatley won't change anyone's behaviour.
PS when I said your I wasn't specifically meaning you.

[EdinMike]

If you were lucky enough to remember how great he was for us then clap.

If not just be quiet. Is that too hard ?

[Roxyhibee]

Greatest goalkeeper I’ve seen in a Hibs shirt who gave his absolute all for the team when he was with us. Saved us from hidings on more than a few occasions. Deserves applause today.

[Brightside]

I always went to the toilet at the end of the night when in the lodge at Shrubhill, it was full of Hibby's and the like who didn't want to stand for the Queen.

You went to a lodge?

[Brightside]

Anthony stokes is a terrorist sympathiser but we all celebrate his contribution and when the time comes (hopefully a long time yet) he will be celebrated for his contribution to the club and rightfully so. Why shouldn't a player seen as one of our best ever goalie not be afforded the same.

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Is he? Which terrorist group does he support.

[superfurryhibby]

You went to a lodge?

I recall that Shrubhill was the home to either a Masonic or Orange Lodge at some point.

[Pretty Boy]

I won't be applauding but I wouldn't dream of spoiling it for those who want to show their respect or appreciation or whatever.

If you want to applaud then do so. If you don't then stay in the concourse or just stand quietly.

[JimBHibees]

Greatest goalkeeper I’ve seen in a Hibs shirt who gave his absolute all for the team when he was with us. Saved us from hidings on more than a few occasions. Deserves applause today.

Agree also the best keeper I have seen for Hibs.

[fife hfc]

Is he? Which terrorist group does he support.IRA. They are terrorist just like the UVF are terrorists. Killing innocent people on either side make the groups terrorists. But that won't suit your narrative. I support Hibs as I don't want my club to be involved or take sides in any of that.

I know people still cling to the past that we were started by Irish Catholics, but so what. We are now a secular Scottish club that should be inclusive to all and leave that sh*t to the two bigoted clubs in the West.

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[Brightside]

IRA. They are terrorist just like the UVF are terrorists. Killing innocent people on either side make the groups terrorists. But that won't suit your narrative. I support Hibs as I don't want my club to be involved or take sides in any of that.

I know people still cling to the past that we were started by Irish Catholics, but so what. We are now a secular Scottish club that should be inclusive to all and leave that sh*t to the two bigoted clubs in the West.

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The IRA were Paramilitaries. I don’t think we get to decide if they were terrorists but that’s maybe a debate for the Holy Ground. Personally I’ll be ignoring the applause.

[blackpoolhibs]

I couldnt join that lot in anything, great keeper though.

[Bridge hibs]

I won't be applauding but I wouldn't dream of spoiling it for those who want to show their respect or appreciation or whatever.

If you want to applaud then do so. If you don't then stay in the concourse or just stand quietly.Likewise

[fife hfc]

All a matter of perceptions. UVF also can be seen as a paramilitary group but to me both them and IRA are terrorists. But as you say this board is not the place for this. I personally believe alot of fans will try justifying booing by claiming a terrorist link, while wouldn't do the same for Stokes. Totally hypocritical.

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[wookie70]

Has there ever been a minutes applause so long after someone had passed. If this fixture was at Ibrox do you think they would have held one. To me this is an attempt, which has worked, to force us into a minutes applause on The Rangers terms. The club were between a rock and a hard place. I always think there should be a policy for these things as there will have been players who have passed that have not received an applause and now we are having one for a player which has been organised by the opposition. I think I will stand in the concourse

[oneone73]

The IRA were Paramilitaries. I don’t think we get to decide if they were terrorists but that’s maybe a debate for the Holy Ground. Personally I’ll be ignoring the applause.

Not sure how many paramilitaries bomb pubs and shopping centres,but agree that's not a debate for GHC.

[OstKurve Hibs]

IRA. They are terrorist just like the UVF are terrorists. Killing innocent people on either side make the groups terrorists. But that won't suit your narrative. I support Hibs as I don't want my club to be involved or take sides in any of that.

I know people still cling to the past that we were started by Irish Catholics, but so what. We are now a secular Scottish club that should be inclusive to all and leave that sh*t to the two bigoted clubs in the West.

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What do you mean, so what ? Just cos you dont give a **** about the clubs history and founding members doesnt mean we all feel the same way.

[Antifa Hibs]

All a matter of perceptions. UVF also can be seen as a paramilitary group but to me both them and IRA are terrorists. But as you say this board is not the place for this. I personally believe alot of fans will try justifying booing by claiming a terrorist link, while wouldn't do the same for Stokes. Totally hypocritical.

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What the ****s Stokes and alleged links to the IRA (who pretty much disbanded when Stokes was 6) have to do with Goram and the UVF?

Whataboutery at it's finest. Can't have a discussion about one without bringing in the otherm

[Antifa Hibs]

IRA. They are terrorist just like the UVF are terrorists. Killing innocent people on either side make the groups terrorists. But that won't suit your narrative. I support Hibs as I don't want my club to be involved or take sides in any of that.

I know people still cling to the past that we were started by Irish Catholics, but so what. We are now a secular Scottish club that should be inclusive to all and leave that sh*t to the two bigoted clubs in the West.

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Loooooool.

But not Irish republicans?

[LeithMike]

Andy was my favourite player as a child and I have great memories of him. It was sad when he signed for Rangers but he then got the respect his goalkeeping deserved that it never got at Hibs. It was even sadder to read about the way he was drawn into the culture that surrounds Rangers.

I think as Hibs fans we are perfectly entitled to a minute's applause for the contribution he made to the club. It doesn't mean we approve of everything he did.

We can also dislike what some of the Rangers fans or players have stood for without hating or despising them as people. That type of hatred is what underpins bigotry in the first place.

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[superfurryhibby]

As the song said, two Andy Goram's. Maybe Hibs can claim the original one, the guy who joined and served us with distinction and the Huns can claim the other one? Then everybody's happy.

I had mixed feelings when Goram died. He actually came across well in interviews, the kind of guy you could imagine having a pint and a laugh with . On the other hand, he courted the attentions of high profile murderers, fully buying into the sectarian culture at Ibrox. That I found a bit of a challenge. It's not as if he was born into or grew up around it.

People mentioning Stokes. I don't know if he was involved with the IRA or whether he just happened to know folk that were, but it's not really relevant. Fact is that there will be a minutes applause for Goram today, most will respect it, a few bams will not.

[Helensburghhibs]

I won't be applauding but I wouldn't dream of spoiling it for those who want to show their respect or appreciation or whatever.

If you want to applaud then do so. If you don't then stay in the concourse or just stand quietly.

Far too much common sense here mate. Where's your outrage

[Mick O'Rourke]

Just tweeted by the club

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1560891821236027392?t=X_BG3YK-EAxTo_w-tEXvDg&s=19

Reprehensible

I will applaud all Hibs Fans who remain in the concourse while this goes on.

[He's here!]

Greatest goalkeeper I’ve seen in a Hibs shirt who gave his absolute all for the team when he was with us. Saved us from hidings on more than a few occasions. Deserves applause today.

Agree 100%. One of the best players I've ever seen at ER.

I'd be surprised if the club WEREN'T acknowledging his very sad passing.

[HFC93]

Clap or just ignore it. Some absolute children in our support.

[He's here!]

Has there ever been a minutes applause so long after someone had passed. If this fixture was at Ibrox do you think they would have held one. To me this is an attempt, which has worked, to force us into a minutes applause on The Rangers terms. The club were between a rock and a hard place. I always think there should be a policy for these things as there will have been players who have passed that have not received an applause and now we are having one for a player which has been organised by the opposition. I think I will stand in the concourse

Or did Rangers maybe think it would be an appropriate day to hold such a tribute? They could presumanly have held one at Ibrox before now but this at least acknowledges he played with distinction for both clubs - something you rarely see mentioned in the media, who almost always refer to him only as a Rangers player.

That's would be my reading of the situation. Not really getting the head-popping rage from some. If I was going today I'd applaud Andy as a Hibs great.

[h1bs4life]

Everyone who is there will decide what to.
I will applaud for his contribution as a Hibs player just like every other time I have applauded at a football game be it for fans or opposition players .
I have had no idea what the fans or opposition players beliefs are outside football but I applaud due to there connection to the football club

[JDT]

Religion and politics should be nowhere near football but unfortunately they are. I hope it goes well, he was a great keeper, arguably Scotland's best ever.

[chippy]

Unfortunately this has the potential to end up quite badly for us but hopefully our extremist minority who don't want to engage with any tribute decide to either stay in the concourse for 60 seconds or just stay silent, rather than giving the club a red neck.
Sorry, so you’re an extremist if you don’t stand up and applaud the memory of an ex Hibs player who was a confirmed anti catholic bigot, an anti Irish racist and a supporter of the UVF?

[chippy]

Reprehensible

I will applaud all Hibs Fans who remain in the concourse while this goes on.

Me too Mick, my seats will be empty

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Not sure how many paramilitaries bomb pubs and shopping centres,but agree that's not a debate for GHC.

We'll all be standing in silence for such people once poppy season gets into full swing.

[Cletus]

Andy was a very nice guy and very good company. Yes he was an idiot too particularly with his embracing of their pish. I’m not there today but I’d undoubtedly applaud a guy who was an outstanding player for us. He always held Hibs in high regard too.

The guy is dead, some respect shouldn’t be too much to ask really.

[LunasBoots]

You can already see this isn't going to go to plan, there are very mixed views across forums and social media, just hope it's not too bad. Goram and Bell chant already being aired on Easter Road

[The Baldmans Comb]

I really couldnt imagine standing and applauding an anti Irish racist and a supporter of a terrorist organization so much so that he wore a black arm band onto the pitch when one of their kind was killed.

Something to think about as you applaud though.

[Jones28]

You can already see this isn't going to go to plan, there are very mixed views across forums and social media, just hope it's not too bad. Goram and Bell chant already being aired on Easter Road

What a seriously ****ing horrible bunch we have amongst our support.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

What a seriously ****ing horrible bunch we have amongst our support.

What for not applauding the man who wore a black armband for Billy Wright? Aye, it’s the hibs fans that are disgusting right enough


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[cabbageandribs1875]

i'll be in front of my TV, i shall not be clapping :), instead i will be remembering him with the fondness i had for him whilst at Hibs


i'm quite sure the filth in the south stand will be paying homage to AG's favourite terrorist organisation throughout 90+ minutes


hopefully no disrespect for him is shown during the clapathon

[Jones28]

What for not applauding the man who wore a black armband for Billy Wright? Aye, it’s the hibs fans that are disgusting right enough


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You’ve read the post I replied to I take it? Maybe try it and have another go.

[Jones28]

Gone off without an issue. Well done all.

[hibbie02]

No dramas then.


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[Sir David Gray]

Thankfully respected.

[He's here!]

Thankfully respected.

Good to hear. That it even seemed to be an issue for some was perplexing.

[Stairway 2 7]

Attention seekers or stirrers claiming there would be problems. Respected like it was always going to be, good stuff

[h1bs4life]

Just back from game very respectful majority on there feet applauding , no booing.
Club got it right , screens with a picture of him in Hibs strip.
RIP Andy

[The Harp]

Glad it passed off without incident. I'm in the FF upper and stood, but couldnt bring myself to applaud - most folk around me did, which is fair enough.

[Broken Gnome]

Doesn't have show how the online noise totally blows things out of proportion - from folk claiming this is a 'new low' for Hibs, to the reality of zero issue at all.

[Frazerbob]

Quite a few around me in the East remained seated, which is fair enough. I wasn’t sure if I’d join in with the applause but did in the end.

[A Hi-Bee]

Doesn't have show how the online noise totally blows things out of proportion - from folk claiming this is a 'new low' for Hibs, to the reality of zero issue at all.

Online pische more like, who cares what a couple of hundred at most say on a football forum. I like to slaver away wi the best o them, before anyone has a go.

[WhileTheChief..]

Great tribute to Goram today that passed without any of the nonsense so many were predicting on here.

Hibs fans are sound.

[WhileTheChief..]

Doesn't have show how the online noise totally blows things out of proportion - from folk claiming this is a 'new low' for Hibs, to the reality of zero issue at all.

:top marksYup, said yesterday that this would pass without any problems and it did.

Too many have no faith in their fellow Hibs fans and just want to rip into them for any reason. See it all the time on here.

[The Harp Awakes]

Good to hear. That it even seemed to be an issue for some was perplexing.

I think it's perplexing that you're perplexed, but each to their own.

Andy Goram was a brilliant keeper for Hibs and we were privileged to have him.

However, me and my laddie sat down at the applause today as did a good few around us. Andy let himself down with the craziness he became involved in at the old Rangers. Soured my opinion of hm.

Having saiid that though, I'm pleased there was no scene which could be pinned on Hibs fans.

[Pretty Boy]

There were a fair few waited in the FF Upper concourse until it was over. Not hundreds but a couple of dozen I'd say.

No big deal either way. If people preferred to remain away from their seat or to sit or stand without applauding then that's their right and their choice (and it was mine). If others wanted to applaud then the same applies to them and no one should have attempted to spoil that for them. It seems no one did.

[Carheenlea]

I wasn’t sure if I’d join in with the applause but did in the end.

Likewise, but I found myself applauding for the young man in the photo with the Hibs goalkeeper top before his head was turned with the Loyalist baggage that he somehow felt the need to embrace in order to ingratiate himself with the Rangers support.

[tamig]

Likewise, but I found myself applauding for the young man in the photo with the Hibs goalkeeper top before his head was turned with the Loyalist baggage that he somehow felt the need to embrace in order to ingratiate himself with the Rangers support.

My sentiments too. I met Andy and had a few pints with him when he was here. I was surprised and disgusted when his mind became poisoned after joining them. A guy who was fairly easily manipulated. But he was the best keeper I’ve ever seen playing for Hibs, and for those memories and the nights I laughed and drank with him, he got my applause today.

[The Harp Awakes]

My sentiments too. I met Andy and had a few pints with him when he was here. I was surprised and disgusted when his mind became poisoned after joining them. A guy who was fairly easily manipulated. But he was the best keeper I’ve ever seen playing for Hibs, and for those memories and the nights I laughed and drank with him, he got my applause today.

Understandable mate. If I'd have met him like you I'd have done the same toda I'm sure.. I agree that he was a guy who was easily manipulated.

[Crunchie]

You went to a lodge?
As did many Hibs fans after a game, cheap drink and a good nights dancing.

[Scottie]

As did many Hibs fans after a game, cheap drink and a good nights dancing.
Aww the queer fellas. What time did you sacrifice the goats. Was it after the toasts or before ? :cb

[The Harp Awakes]

Aww the queer fellas. What time did you sacrifice the goats. Was it after the toasts or before ? :cb

:greengrin

[LewysGot2]

Likewise, but I found myself applauding for the young man in the photo with the Hibs goalkeeper top before his head was turned with the Loyalist baggage that he somehow felt the need to embrace in order to ingratiate himself with the Rangers support.

That the photo was him in a Hibs strip was important. :agree:

[He's here!]

I think it's perplexing that you're perplexed, but each to their own.

Andy Goram was a brilliant keeper for Hibs and we were privileged to have him.

However, me and my laddie sat down at the applause today as did a good few around us. Andy let himself down with the craziness he became involved in at the old Rangers. Soured my opinion of hm.

Having saiid that though, I'm pleased there was no scene which could be pinned on Hibs fans.

I just don't really believe the fact a footballer who was such a great player for Hibs later got roped into some nonsense he probably didn't fully grasp keeps folk awake at night and prohibits them from acknowledging the enjoyment he gave us.

We'd all buy Anthony Stokes a pint if we met him in the pub yet if anything his behaviour away from Hibs was more distasteful than Goram's.

Just my take on it tho. As you say each to their own and I'm also glad the tribute was respected.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

I applauded Goram today. I remember him as being the best Hibs goalkeeper I've seen in the 40 years I've been watching the team. I had the pleasure of interviewing him for a fanzine when he was at Hibs and he came across as a genuine guy, albeit a bit mad. He had his demons and will be remembered in the Scottish media for his time at the Huns more than he was here but as the Proclaimers once said 'I can understand why Stranraer lie so lowly, they could save a lot of points by signing Hibs goalie'. A line inspired by Andy Goram.

[Brizo]

Aside from KT for obviously very different reasons I've never had a problem with anyone who left us for the huns or for that matter come to us from the huns.

Its a job to most players and while most will put up with or turn a blind eye to the huns most sectarian elements and aspects, few have embraced that "culture" as much as Loyalist loving, UVF apologist Goram. I dont buy the excuse that his antics and actions from Ibrox to the Shankhill and back were because he's a daftie, he'd have had to have had a total f****** lobotomy to not know what he wasn't just turning a blind eye to but actively supporting.

Each to their own but my choice was not to clap.

[Killiehibbie]

Aww the queer fellas. What time did you sacrifice the goats. Was it after the toasts or before ? :cb

Would that not be a different lodge?

[weecounty hibby]

Sadly here in Alloa we have more than our fair share of knuckledraggers who are involved in that side of unionism. Some who are well known to have been, and probably still are, collectors of money for "the cause" and mix in paramilitary/terrorist circles. Goram regularly stayed with them here when at hun supporters functions. I won't go into some of the stories I've heard about his time mixed up with them but it definitely diminishes my feelings towards the best keeper Hibs have had in my half century of watching us.