Hibs and plastic pitches

[dastardly8]

We are always absolute rotten on plastic pitches , do we not train on them or try and learn from past experiences on them , couldn’t pass wind , constantly giving away possession , pathetic

[Since452]

Shouldn't be allowed. An obvious advantage to the team that has them.

[MWHIBBIES]

This is a myth. Look at our recent results on these pitches. It's no worse than grass. Beat Kilmarnock, livi and Hamilton all away the season we finished 3rd.

Also beat alloa and cove that season on plastic parks.

It's our rubbish team and tactics that hurt us. 3 wee boys up front away at livi is just a manager who hasn't done his homework.

[Gatecrasher]

Stop blaming the pitch guys, it maybe has a part in it but we're just no very good.

[Itsnoteasy]

Shouldn't be allowed. An obvious advantage to the team that has them.

The team gaining the advantage is Livi not Man Cily. We should be beating them whether playing at Saughton Park or Portobello beach.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

I thought we trained on both types of pitches🤷

[A Hi-Bee]

Stop blaming the pitch guys, it maybe has a part in it but we're just no very good.

:top marksWhen they put that jersey on they should be able to play on sand never mind a pitch, just no good enough for sure, been that way for a few years now.

[buktapurple79]

Shouldn't be allowed. An obvious advantage to the team that has them.

100%. Embarassed for them, pissed off good money paid to go there and see Hibs, that ‘pitch’ is a total disgrace, you’d have to practice on that as nae other artificial surface is that bad, total anathema to our playing style.

[LewysGot2]

Whether we cope on them or not they make a mockery of the game. They lessen the product. We pay good money for a game of football.

It would be nice if conditions were conducive to decent play, of a reasonable tempo with passes that can be weighed and tackles can be made.

They spoil the product.

[zitelli62]

Should only be allowed in the top league once a major final has used them until then should be nowhere near the top league.

[wookie70]

We played fine on that pitch in the second half. The problem in the first half wasn't the pitch it was the players' application and work rate. In the second half we played to a decent standard and only the application of Doidge falling asleep late on cost us a point.

[Halmyre Hibee]

Livingston are never easy games. Our record at Almondvale since 2017/18 season is played 8 won 2 drawn 1 lost 5. Don’t like the plastic pitch but even at Easter Road played 7 won 2 drawn 3 and lost 2. The problem is that our team never seem to match their desire and ability to win these type of games.

[hibbydog]

I’m sure some facts would prove or disprove the point.

Can anyone be ar5ed to pull together a summary of results on plastic pitches vs grass over the last few years?

[cabbageandribs1875]

i've lost the thread i was discussing the pitch yesterday so i'll reply to this one after earlier today looking at Livingston results last season...


only two sides failed to take at least a point at Livingston, out of the sides that played there twice only two sides took away absolutely zilch

those two were Dundee and....Hibs

Aberdeen
Motherwell
St Johnstone
St Mirren
Hearts
Sevco
Sellick

all managed to win

Dundee utd and Ross co at least took a point

why are we so different and always blame the pitch at livingston for the reason we lose, other sides manage to win

[BT58]

Didnt Hibs invest in a plastic pitch at East Mains so that they would be used to playing on other plastic pitches :dunno::dunno:
B

[Vault Boy]

Completely removing Saturday’s result from the picture, these monstrosities need to be banned from the top flight. It hurts the quality of play, it’s potentially more dangerous for the players, and they create an imbalanced sporting advantage. They’re not fit for the Premiership.

[Stubbsy90+2]

i've lost the thread i was discussing the pitch yesterday so i'll reply to this one after earlier today looking at Livingston results last season...


only two sides failed to take at least a point at Livingston, out of the sides that played there twice only two sides took away absolutely zilch

those two were Dundee and....Hibs

Aberdeen
Motherwell
St Johnstone
St Mirren
Hearts
Sevco
Sellick

all managed to win

Dundee utd and Ross co at least took a point

why are we so different and always blame the pitch at livingston for the reason we lose, other sides manage to win

The pitch isn’t the issue. It’s our team. That much is clear as day.

[LewysGot2]

Didnt Hibs invest in a plastic pitch at East Mains so that they would be used to playing on other plastic pitches :dunno::dunno:
B

It's probably higher spec than that thing at The Spaghettihad. 🤪

[Billy Whizz]

Didnt Hibs invest in a plastic pitch at East Mains so that they would be used to playing on other plastic pitches :dunno::dunno:
B

Yes but we don’t train on it at the moment
Lee said on his pre Livingston presser, that we only train on the grass just now, as he thinks it’s a problem chopping and changing from grass to Astro
Obviously when the grass is not in good condition they’ll move over to the Astro

Said his dream would be to have a desso pitch at East Mains, but cost prohibits at the moment

[SlickShoes]

This is a myth. Look at our recent results on these pitches. It's no worse than grass. Beat Kilmarnock, livi and Hamilton all away the season we finished 3rd.

Also beat alloa and cove that season on plastic parks.

It's our rubbish team and tactics that hurt us. 3 wee boys up front away at livi is just a manager who hasn't done his homework.

In what world is Youan a wee boy?

[MWHIBBIES]

In what world is Youan a wee boy?

Certainly looked like one first half. Totally bullied. Looked better 2nd half out wide

[WeeRussell]

Certainly looked like one first half. Totally bullied. Looked better 2nd half out wide

Who that we’ve got available should’ve played in those 3 positions, and aren’t wee boys?

Plastic Pitches are pish and shouldn’t be allowed in the top league. But it’s not an excuse for our first half performance yesterday.

[MWHIBBIES]

Who that we’ve got available should’ve played in those 3 positions, and aren’t wee boys?

Plastic Pitches are pish and shouldn’t be allowed in the top league. But it’s not an excuse for our first half performance yesterday.

I personally would not have played that formation. Its just not going to work.

[SlickShoes]

Certainly looked like one first half. Totally bullied. Looked better 2nd half out wide

Couldn't disagree more about him looking like a wee boy. However, if we are going to persist with the 3 up front we need someone in the middle who is huge, almost every team in this league has a giant or two at centre half, and all we have to combat that is whatever Doidge now is.

[MWHIBBIES]

Couldn't disagree more about him looking like a wee boy. However, if we are going to persist with the 3 up front we need someone in the middle who is huge, almost every team in this league has a giant or two at centre half, and all we have to combat that is whatever Doidge now is.

Or we must learn to actually play football and do it quickly and properly to beat these sides. Not taking months to get it forward and then coming back anyway. Quick football, breaking away, running in behind.

[BoltonHibee]

Completely removing Saturday’s result from the picture, these monstrosities need to be banned from the top flight. It hurts the quality of play, it’s potentially more dangerous for the players, and they create an imbalanced sporting advantage. They’re not fit for the Premiership.

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[Lago]

This is a myth. Look at our recent results on these pitches. It's no worse than grass. Beat Kilmarnock, livi and Hamilton all away the season we finished 3rd.

Also beat alloa and cove that season on plastic parks.

It's our rubbish team and tactics that hurt us. 3 wee boys up front away at livi is just a manager who hasn't done his homework.
In a so called top league plastic pitches should never happen. The fact that Hibs have won on them does not make them right

[Lago]

In what world is Youan a wee boy?
Disrespectful comment

[MWHIBBIES]

In a so called top league plastic pitches should never happen. The fact that Hibs have won on them does not make them right

I totally agree. But Hibs had the chance to initiate the legislation to get rid of them when Livi were the only team with one last season. We done nothing.

[donno]

I dispise plastic pitches, but you can understand why Livvy has one. Basically zero maintenance, and I'm sure they rent it out during the week, to the local community.
I bet the pitch at Easter Road costs the club £250k a year to maintain. Cost of groundsmen and equipment. Water in the summer, and electricity for the lamps in the winter. Does it not get relayed every couple of years as well?

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[Pagan Hibernia]

100%. Embarassed for them, pissed off good money paid to go there and see Hibs, that ‘pitch’ is a total disgrace, you’d have to practice on that as nae other artificial surface is that bad, total anathema to our playing style.

what is our playing style?

[gbhibby]

Are there any other top leagues in Europe with plastic pitches? The SPFL could introduce a rule that if you have a plastic pitch you must change to grass if you want to play in the top league.

[007]

I totally agree. But Hibs had the chance to initiate the legislation to get rid of them when Livi were the only team with one last season. We done nothing.

Don't remember seeing anything anywhere about Hibs passing up an opportunity on something like that. Or are you just talking theoretically Hibs could have put forward a resolution for it in the same way that any team can put forward a resolution at any time to change any of the rules?

[MWHIBBIES]

Don't remember seeing anything anywhere about Hibs passing up an opportunity on something like that. Or are you just talking theoretically Hibs could have put forward a resolution for it in the same way that any team can put forward a resolution at any time to change any of the rules?

Yes. It was never really talked about, but it could and should have been. While there are 2 sides with plastic parks, it won't change.

[Hibernian Verse]

We are always absolute rotten on plastic pitches , do we not train on them or try and learn from past experiences on them , couldn’t pass wind , constantly giving away possession , pathetic

We are quite often rotten on plastic pitches but your reasoning is way off.

Our pass accuracy was 77% compared to Livis 63%.