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Unseen work
30-07-2022, 05:29 PM
Don’t want to over board with a thread about each individual player after a last minute winner over St Johnstone but wanted to give him a mention as I’ve not seen his name mentioned.
Thought that was his best game for us by a mile and looked a lot more composed and assumed in possession.
Defensively he was very good and wins the ball back a hell of alot, also had a great last ditch tackle to prevent a certain goal in the second half.
I was a bit sceptical in pre season/league cup games and it’s still early days but he can take alot of confidence from that today. Hallberg, Davidson etc are anything but easy players to play against or impose yourself on and he done it very well.
Well done Nohan and hopefully he continues to improve.
SChibs
30-07-2022, 05:46 PM
Don’t want to over board with a thread about each individual player after a last minute winner over St Johnstone but wanted to give him a mention as I’ve not seen his name mentioned.
Thought that was his best game for us by a mile and looked a lot more composed and assumed in possession.
Defensively he was very good and wins the ball back a hell of alot, also had a great last ditch tackle to prevent a certain goal in the second half.
I was a bit sceptical in pre season/league cup games and it’s still early days but he can take alot of confidence from that today. Hallberg, Davidson etc are anything but easy players to play against or impose yourself on and he done it very well.
Well done Nohan and hopefully he continues to improve.
I agree. I definitely looked a lot better today and seems to be adjusting to the pace of the game up here and settling in. I think given a run of games in the league he will begin to show what he is all about and be a real asset
Libby Hibby
30-07-2022, 05:49 PM
Rolls Royce.
Since452
30-07-2022, 05:51 PM
What a player he could develop in to.
SlickShoes
30-07-2022, 05:52 PM
The most shocking thing about him is how young he is, lots of potential, hope he gets the chance develop as much as possible.
green day
30-07-2022, 05:53 PM
Kept it simple, won it, passed it short.
Perfect
Mikey_1875
30-07-2022, 05:57 PM
Thought he was decent at the defensive stuff which I suppose is his main role. When we were all over them in the second half I thought he was quite slow in getting the ball moving and JDH made a difference in that when replacing him. Would definitely be starting Kenneh next week though.
Unseen work
30-07-2022, 06:06 PM
Thought he was decent at the defensive stuff which I suppose is his main role. When we were all over them in the second half I thought he was quite slow in getting the ball moving and JDH made a difference in that when replacing him. Would definitely be starting Kenneh next week though.
Think we’ll see JDH start next week in place of Tavares and push Henderson out to the left.
JamesHFC
30-07-2022, 06:08 PM
I hope he’s just fooling people with his shooting and he’s actually going to put one in the top corner against Hearts next week.
xyz23jc
30-07-2022, 06:10 PM
Kept it simple, won it, passed it short.
Perfect
Clarosesque...The Leeds Pitbull! :greengrin
Billy Whizz
30-07-2022, 06:11 PM
I hope he’s just fooling people with his shooting and he’s actually going to put one in the top corner against Hearts next week.
I can’t understand why we have him in that position just outside the box from corners etc. Someone like Melkerson would hit the ball much sweeter
Unseen work
30-07-2022, 06:21 PM
I can’t understand why we have him in that position just outside the box from corners etc. Someone like Melkerson would hit the ball much sweeter
Think that’s the issue, I’d personally prefer someone like Melkersen in the box pouncing on any scraps.
Cabraja/Henderson etc on the edge would be a good option though imo if they’re not taking the corner
Allant1981
30-07-2022, 06:22 PM
Thought he was ok, clearly still finding his feet but no major issue today
Pretty Boy
30-07-2022, 06:24 PM
Looked a million times better today than any of the LC games. He'll need to be on it next week if we are to win the midfield battle. He certainly won't be found wanting for effort.
Northernhibee
30-07-2022, 06:25 PM
Kept it simple, won it, passed it short.
Perfect
Looks like Johnson is still working on undoing the Maloney philosophy and we’re seeing the impact that’s having on players like Rocky, Campbell and JDH. Simple instructions, simple roles and all the better performances to go with it.
Kenneh may be a new signing but he’ll fit in nicely with that philosophy.
ZitellZeTime
30-07-2022, 06:33 PM
I can’t understand why we have him in that position just outside the box from corners etc. Someone like Melkerson would hit the ball much sweeter
Early days but definitely looking decent and should only get better the more he trains and plays and the team gel. Give us a good bit of prescence in that area and should help stopping other teams midfields run all over us like they have the last year or so.
Henderson looked good last season with some of the balls he played etc, reads the game well too. He looks a lot physically stronger and thats going to help him. Think we're going to have a decent season and play some fast exciting football with some of the new additions too.
New boy at LB was all over the place and looked great considering he'd basically just arrived and been thrown straight in. Thought he was going to be good but wasn't sure if we were going to start him today or not but can see why we did, only one game but definitely looks good.
Brightside
30-07-2022, 06:51 PM
He’s quality. Our best signing of the season.
Allant1981
30-07-2022, 07:25 PM
He’s quality. Our best signing of the season.
Not based on performances so far, not to say he wont be but not a chance he has been the best so far
Brightside
30-07-2022, 07:45 PM
Not based on performances so far, not to say he wont be but not a chance he has been the best so far
He’s not had poor game yet. Some people appear to be a bit obsessed about how often he makes a poor pass yet our final third players make poor passes about half the time. He’s a DM and already better than anything we have had for years.
JohnM1875
30-07-2022, 07:46 PM
The young man deserves the plaudits tonight! I haven't been overly impressed with him so far but he was fantastic today. Never ever shy of putting a challenge in, I love that.
Callum_62
30-07-2022, 07:50 PM
He did save an almost certain St Johnstone goal with being really switched on 2nd half too
Only 19 too - has massive potential
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IberianHibernian
30-07-2022, 07:56 PM
Thought he was outstanding today , probably our best player . Even in LC games where some criticised him I thought he was good . Does a lot of good stuff as well as covering for mistakes of teammates . Obviously he`s not played against strong opposition yet and he`s still very young but I think he could turn out to be a fantastic signing in terms of helping us in coming months and years ( hopefully ) and sell on ( don`t like saying it but that is reality ) . From what I`ve seen of him so far , recruitment team deserve a lot of praise . We`ve had lots of young players from big English clubs on loan or after they`ve been released and very few if any have made a big impact with us or their following clubs . Not quite sure yet why he ended up with us but hopefully it`s because our recruitment team identified him early and went the extra mile ( and pound obviously ) to persuade him to join us .
EdinMike
30-07-2022, 08:02 PM
I said a few weeks back, I don’t think some people are seeing what he does that allows others around him to play a bit more freely. Newell for one.
Allant1981
30-07-2022, 08:30 PM
He’s not had poor game yet. Some people appear to be a bit obsessed about how often he makes a poor pass yet our final third players make poor passes about half the time. He’s a DM and already better than anything we have had for years.
He also hasnt had a game yet where he has stood out amd made you think wow what a player, so cant say he is the best signing we have made so far this summer. Not to say he wont be and hopefully he will be but he hasnt been the best so far
cameronw-hfc
30-07-2022, 09:08 PM
He also hasnt had a game yet where he has stood out amd made you think wow what a player, so cant say he is the best signing we have made so far this summer. Not to say he wont be and hopefully he will be but he hasnt been the best so far
He had a good game today. Kenneh playing well means we notice him as little as possible. He's not meant to stand out and make you think wow what a player, he's meant to quietly go about his business. That's how a defensive mid plays
Allant1981
30-07-2022, 09:16 PM
He had a good game today. Kenneh playing well means we notice him as little as possible. He's not meant to stand out and make you think wow what a player, he's meant to quietly go about his business. That's how a defensive mid plays
Nah sorry if he has a good game he will be noticed, plenty of them do, bartley was always praised amd notoced after a good game, kenneh played ok today, but to suggest if he plays well we dont notice him is wrong, again only my opinion and hope he turns out to be a cracking signing
JammyDoidger
30-07-2022, 09:17 PM
I can't actually believe this. Amazing what a last minute goal can do. He done absolutely nothing, we created nowt. He never helped in terms is an attacking threat and in truth he wasn't really needed against a crap St.Johnstone. He would have been the first player hooked if I was manager, and in my opinion Johnson's subs were pointless and he got away with one. Much better needed going forward. We never created a proper chance. Worrying as expected.
Callum_62
30-07-2022, 09:19 PM
I can't actually believe this. Amazing what a last minute goal can do. He done absolutely nothing, we created nowt. He never helped in terms is an attacking threat and in truth he wasn't really needed against a crap St.Johnstone. He would have been the first player hooked if I was manager, and in my opinion Johnson's subs were pointless and he got away with one. Much better needed going forward. We never created a proper chance. Worrying as expected.[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
Jesus H Christ
Pointless subs right enough
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HFC93
30-07-2022, 10:11 PM
I can't actually believe this. Amazing what a last minute goal can do. He done absolutely nothing, we created nowt. He never helped in terms is an attacking threat and in truth he wasn't really needed against a crap St.Johnstone. He would have been the first player hooked if I was manager, and in my opinion Johnson's subs were pointless and he got away with one. Much better needed going forward. We never created a proper chance. Worrying as expected.
Pointless subs apart from bringing the guy on who scored the winner.
JammyDoidger
31-07-2022, 05:57 AM
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Jesus H Christ
Pointless subs right enough
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He's a tactical genius then? A set piece and body's in the box, it's a numbers game..his subs were wild, bringing off 2 attackers and keeping Kenneh on the park wasn't the answer. And there's no way the goal was Campbell's either.
Juice-Terry
31-07-2022, 07:15 AM
I can't actually believe this. Amazing what a last minute goal can do. He done absolutely nothing, we created nowt. He never helped in terms is an attacking threat and in truth he wasn't really needed against a crap St.Johnstone. He would have been the first player hooked if I was manager, and in my opinion Johnson's subs were pointless and he got away with one. Much better needed going forward. We never created a proper chance. Worrying as expected.
Sad but (mostly) true.
flash
31-07-2022, 07:20 AM
I can't actually believe this. Amazing what a last minute goal can do. He done absolutely nothing, we created nowt. He never helped in terms is an attacking threat and in truth he wasn't really needed against a crap St.Johnstone. He would have been the first player hooked if I was manager, and in my opinion Johnson's subs were pointless and he got away with one. Much better needed going forward. We never created a proper chance. Worrying as expected.
Horrible, horrible post.
Heisenberg
31-07-2022, 08:01 AM
I can't actually believe this. Amazing what a last minute goal can do. He done absolutely nothing, we created nowt. He never helped in terms is an attacking threat and in truth he wasn't really needed against a crap St.Johnstone. He would have been the first player hooked if I was manager, and in my opinion Johnson's subs were pointless and he got away with one. Much better needed going forward. We never created a proper chance. Worrying as expected.
You can’t believe people are being positive and supporting the players after a win on the opening day of the season and after a less than ideal start in the league cup? Ffs. Take a day off.
angus hibby
31-07-2022, 08:09 AM
He's a tactical genius then? A set piece and body's in the box, it's a numbers game..his subs were wild, bringing off 2 attackers and keeping Kenneh on the park wasn't the answer. And there's no way the goal was Campbell's either.
🙄. At very worst, it’s an assist for Campbell.
loanheadhibby
31-07-2022, 08:13 AM
I can't actually believe this. Amazing what a last minute goal can do. He done absolutely nothing, we created nowt. He never helped in terms is an attacking threat and in truth he wasn't really needed against a crap St.Johnstone. He would have been the first player hooked if I was manager, and in my opinion Johnson's subs were pointless and he got away with one. Much better needed going forward. We never created a proper chance. Worrying as expected.
You’ve maybe went in 2 footed here but I tend to agree with most of it.
We created a couple of decent chances but never threatened enough.
kenneh’s a young guy, just here so let’s give him time to settle in. Hopefully he’ll grow in to games. We won’t mind him playing that role as should let Newell/Magennis/Henderson play with a bit more freedom. A bit like Gogic.
We definitely got away with one however. It had 0 0 written all over it. I actually think when we play better sides it might help us. Saints played a horrible defensive game yesterday.
Carheenlea
31-07-2022, 08:18 AM
Other than giving the ball away cheaply once in the first half I didn’t think he did a lot wrong.
Looks a player and will continue to improve with first team game time, which is still a novel situation for him. I think he’ll stand out a bit more against better quality opposition where his work will more visual.
hibee-boys
31-07-2022, 08:29 AM
Some extreme views as ever, pretty sure reality sits somewhere in the middle. He did well breaking up play, up for the physical challenge, did allow Joe to work further forward which better suits his game…….needs to improve on the ball I’d say but solid start for a 19 year old who will only get better.
Unseen work
31-07-2022, 08:34 AM
I can't actually believe this. Amazing what a last minute goal can do. He done absolutely nothing, we created nowt. He never helped in terms is an attacking threat and in truth he wasn't really needed against a crap St.Johnstone. He would have been the first player hooked if I was manager, and in my opinion Johnson's subs were pointless and he got away with one. Much better needed going forward. We never created a proper chance. Worrying as expected.
That’s not just harsh it’s just not true to say he done nothing.
He won the ball back and quick throughout the game and whilst doing nothing flashy on the ball kept it simple and used it well.
His ability to win the ball back actually helped us create a couple of chances. Cabraja over done it it the first half, Kenneh immediately slid into the opposition player back to win the ball and then Newell played through Tavares who cut in and blazed his shot over.
Every player plays a different role, just because he’s not the main creator doesn’t mean he was poor. St Johnstone couldn’t get a foot on the ball and hardly created, a part of that down to him. He also saved a certain goal for them with a last ditch challenge.
I don’t know how you can say putting Doidge, Mitchell and the goalscorer Campbell on as pointless subs?
We’re nowhere near the finished article but there were some positive signs there for me in the first half, second was just a game made scrappy by them and we digged deep for the win. I agree we need to create more chances but we had plenty yesterday that should have been converted.
That’s not just harsh it’s just not true to say he done nothing.
He won the ball back and quick throughout the game and whilst doing nothing flashy on the ball kept it simple and used it well.
His ability to win the ball back actually helped us create a couple of chances. Cabraja over done it it the first half, Kenneh immediately slid into the opposition player back to win the ball and then Newell played through Tavares who cut in and blazed his shot over.
Every player plays a different role, just because he’s not the main creator doesn’t mean he was poor. St Johnstone couldn’t get a foot on the ball and hardly created, a part of that down to him. He also saved a certain goal for them with a last ditch challenge.
I don’t know how you can say putting Doidge, Mitchell and the goalscorer Campbell on as pointless subs?
We’re nowhere near the finished article but there were some positive signs there for me in the first half, second was just a game made scrappy by them and we digged deep for the win. I agree we need to create more chances but we had plenty yesterday that should have been converted.
Well said.
He's a tactical genius then? A set piece and body's in the box, it's a numbers game..his subs were wild, bringing off 2 attackers and keeping Kenneh on the park wasn't the answer. And there's no way the goal was Campbell's either.
1 0 Hibs. Nae luck.
degenerated
31-07-2022, 08:43 AM
Horrible, horrible post.Entirely expected though.
Since452
31-07-2022, 08:48 AM
Kenneh was good yesterday. Hugely encouraging signs. He could be a Glen Kamara type when he's properly settled in.
Pretty Boy
31-07-2022, 08:49 AM
I can't actually believe this. Amazing what a last minute goal can do. He done absolutely nothing, we created nowt. He never helped in terms is an attacking threat and in truth he wasn't really needed against a crap St.Johnstone. He would have been the first player hooked if I was manager, and in my opinion Johnson's subs were pointless and he got away with one. Much better needed going forward. We never created a proper chance. Worrying as expected.
We didn't create nowt.
Henderson missed an absolute sitter in the 1st half, that goes in and the game plays out differently. Their CB had a flying header about a yard of the goal line to prevent a tap in and we had a host of half chances in and around the box. Oh and we scored as well.
It wasn't perfect but even if we had drawn 0-0 I would have been happy to afford the performance a level of praise. We were the only team who went out to win the game. We had some really nice passages of passing play, looked assured at the back, absolutely dominated the ball and created a couple of good chances and a few more half chances. Kenneh was good at what he was in there to do, he also used the ball far better than the previous times I have seen him.
That all has to be balanced by acknowledging the opposition was a poor St Johnstone team. Against better teams we will have to improve, I don't think anyone feels otherwise. Are we ready for 3rd or 4th yet? Not for me. That's not really a concern last night or today though. After the LC games and the general atmosphere around the club currently I pitched up fearing the worst yesterday. As it was the team was backed by a brilliant, noisy support and got a well deserved win. A win that has for most, but not all it seems, lifted a bit of the gloom.
Unseen work
31-07-2022, 09:06 AM
We didn't create nowt.
Henderson missed an absolute sitter in the 1st half, that goes in and the game plays out differently. Their CB had a flying header about a yard of the goal line to prevent a tap in and we had a host of half chances in and around the box. Oh and we scored as well.
It wasn't perfect but even if we had drawn 0-0 I would have been happy to afford the performance a level of praise. We were the only team who went out to win the game. We had some really nice passages of passing play, looked assured at the back, absolutely dominated the ball and created a couple of good chances and a few more half chances. Kenneh was good at what he was in there to do, he also used the ball far better than the previous times I have seen him.
That all has to be balanced by acknowledging the opposition was a poor St Johnstone team. Against better teams we will have to improve, I don't think anyone feels otherwise. Are we ready for 3rd or 4th yet? Not for me. That's not really a concern last night or today though. After the LC games and the general atmosphere around the club currently I pitched up fearing the worst yesterday. As it was the team was backed by a brilliant, noisy support and got a well deserved win. A win that has for most, but not all it seems, lifted a bit of the gloom.
Agreed re the chances, we got in a lot of good positions too that we should have got more from. Off the top of my head
Youan’s 1-2 and cut back should have lead to a better chance
Henderson’s sitter
Tavares cutting in and hitting it over the bar - square to Melkersen and it’s a tap in
Youan’s ball over the top to Tavares. Flagged offside when he was actually on and it was a 1v1
Cadden flashed it across goal and the defender cleared it off the line before Tavares tapped it in
The last ditch header off the line when Doidge was about to tap it in
It’s a lot of ifs and buts and yes we’ll need to create more and test the goalie more but that’s the first time they’ve played together at a tough away ground.
I was encouraged the positions we got ourselves in but the quality needs to be better, I think Cadden was played through 2 or 3 times but his first touch was poor and allowed the defender to get back and block his cross.
It will come
Libby Hibby
31-07-2022, 09:10 AM
I can't actually believe this. Amazing what a last minute goal can do. He done absolutely nothing, we created nowt. He never helped in terms is an attacking threat and in truth he wasn't really needed against a crap St.Johnstone. He would have been the first player hooked if I was manager, and in my opinion Johnson's subs were pointless and he got away with one. Much better needed going forward. We never created a proper chance. Worrying as expected.
Slaver.
green day
31-07-2022, 09:15 AM
He done absolutely nothing, we created nowt. He never helped in terms is an attacking threat and in truth he wasn't really needed against a crap St.Johnstone.
You are getting a bit of stick for this, and I can see why.
He (Kenneh) is not there to be the creative, he is there to do exactly what he did yesterday - win the ball in midfield, play it short to a "creative" player and start us again.
IMV he did this perfectly yesterday, it allowed the likes of Newell and Hendo to do their stuff, play balls into the wings and create chances.
Last season we didnt have someone doing that and this forced the likes of Newell to do defensive work and hence blunted our attacking.
My observation of the setup yesterday was that we didnt convert the chances that our excellent leadup play deserved - that needs addressed, but in part is down to the players needing to gel.
But its not down to Kenneh, he did everything asked.
Oh, and I think LJ subs were well timed, indeed one of them scored....................
I can't actually believe this. Amazing what a last minute goal can do. He done absolutely nothing, we created nowt. He never helped in terms is an attacking threat and in truth he wasn't really needed against a crap St.Johnstone. He would have been the first player hooked if I was manager, and in my opinion Johnson's subs were pointless and he got away with one. Much better needed going forward. We never created a proper chance. Worrying as expected.
I prefer pointless subs who actually help us win a game to a pointless post from someone who is relentlessly negative about our Club, or rather, my Club!
The Captain....
31-07-2022, 09:23 AM
Looked a million times better today than any of the LC games. He'll need to be on it next week if we are to win the midfield battle. He certainly won't be found wanting for effort.Could be the perfect game for him, the hurly burly midfield battle of a derby as opposed to games where we dominate the ball.
I think the key for Kenneh is to keep it simple as possible, hold his position, not go wandering and play the simple pass. Give the other midfield players license to play a bit.
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JammyDoidger
31-07-2022, 09:32 AM
On reflection My post maybe came across a bit harsh I can see that, I was full of the drink by the time I posted it yesterday tbf, I get he's not there to carry an attacking threat, my point was more that he wasn't really needed when they went down to 10 IMO, we've had these debates over and over about the likes of a need for gogic, bartley etc..they're ideal IMO away from home but when we are playing against 10 men I think we would be better with a more forward thinking player in there. There was positives to take from yesterday of course, but for the most part it wasn't great. And I genuienly didn't see a goal coming.
Callum_62
31-07-2022, 09:33 AM
On reflection My post maybe came across a bit harsh I can see that, I was full of the drink by the time I posted it yesterday tbf, I get he's not there to carry an attacking threat, my point was more that he wasn't really needed when they went down to 10 IMO, we've had these debates over and over about the likes of a need for gogic, bartley etc..they're ideal IMO away from home but when we are playing against 10 men I think we would be better with a more forward thinking player in there. There was positives to take from yesterday of course, but for the most part it wasn't great. And I genuienly didn't see a goal coming.He wasn't needed but stopped a certain goal for St Johnstone 2nd half
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GreenNWhiteArmy
31-07-2022, 09:33 AM
Genuinely thought he was immense in first half. Stopped numerous counter attacks before they even got in our half. Getting it to Newell/Hendo to start another attack
If he is that effective against hearts next week we'll hear all about it from fans that don't think he done that much.
He now needs to be watching reruns of previous midfield battles in derby's. No amount of data can prepare the newbies for this match. Its a battle played at 100mph. So get ready for it
Libby Hibby
31-07-2022, 09:35 AM
On reflection My post maybe came across a bit harsh I can see that, I was full of the drink by the time I posted it yesterday tbf, I get he's not there to carry an attacking threat, my point was more that he wasn't really needed when they went down to 10 IMO, we've had these debates over and over about the likes of a need for gogic, bartley etc..they're ideal IMO away from home but when we are playing against 10 men I think we would be better with a more forward thinking player in there. There was positives to take from yesterday of course, but for the most part it wasn't great. And I genuienly didn't see a goal coming.
Fair play for admitting you were a bit harsh. Drink or no drink, some of your posts are way too harsh. I urge you to try and see the positives. We are a team that’s 100% trying to be successful.
JammyDoidger
31-07-2022, 09:42 AM
Fair play for admitting you were a bit harsh. Drink or no drink, some of your posts are way too harsh. I urge you to try and see the positives. We are a team that’s 100% trying to be successful.
It's no easy being a hibby at times, Cabraja really impressed me, Rocky has been better than expected, and I think youan would be better when given more room to run into, definitely a lot of positives, not denying that, but we are still 2 or 3 away from competing for 3rd and 4th spots where we should be, hopefully get one or 2 in this week and get a real buzz going into the derby.
Fair play for admitting you were a bit harsh. Drink or no drink, some of your posts are way too harsh. I urge you to try and see the positives. We are a team that’s 100% trying to be successful.
I second all of that.
B.H.F.C
31-07-2022, 10:20 AM
He’s very good when we don’t have the ball but needs to be sharper when we do have it.
Think there is potential there. Also think he’s one of those players that has come in and ‘gets it’ from what I’ve seen. He was buzzing at the end yesterday.
hibbyfraelibby
31-07-2022, 10:25 AM
He's a tactical genius then? A set piece and body's in the box, it's a numbers game..his subs were wild, bringing off 2 attackers and keeping Kenneh on the park wasn't the answer. And there's no way the goal was Campbell's either.
How would you know from your seat in the Wheatfield holding up a bit of pink Busby foil?
It's no easy being a hibby at times, Cabraja really impressed me, Rocky has been better than expected, and I think youan would be better when given more room to run into, definitely a lot of positives, not denying that, but we are still 2 or 3 away from competing for 3rd and 4th spots where we should be, hopefully get one or 2 in this week and get a real buzz going into the derby.
Well said. 👍
Walter
31-07-2022, 10:51 AM
He's definitely one of these players who's good work is not going to be noticed and everytime we don't win is going get the blame
Allant1981
31-07-2022, 11:20 AM
He's definitely one of these players who's good work is not going to be noticed and everytime we don't win is going get the blame
Why would his good work not get noticed, breaking up play, stopping attacks, dpubling up with defenders, filling in for defenders when they push forward are all things that will get noticed or should get noticed
NORTHERNHIBBY
31-07-2022, 11:23 AM
Hope that LJ works closely with this lad and gives him easy instructions to follow. He's not in the team to be our double figure goal scoring midfielder. Looks to be real quality though.
Paulie Walnuts
31-07-2022, 11:49 AM
To be fair, there’s a lot of posts saying he’s not here to do anything creative and I’d agree that’s his role in the team.
Kenneh did say however that he tries to style his play on Vieira and he could definitely get forward. We’ll maybe see more going forward in future.
Leith Green
31-07-2022, 12:33 PM
If newell plays the role he played yesterday , taking the ball forward and looking to play forward passes , then kennehs role is simple. For it to work , kenneh needs to sit and break the play , newell needs to be box to box (which i think he did well yesterday) and Henderson needs to link midfield with the 3 attackers .. I could see that happening for large spells yesterday. Alright there were a few heavy touches , some slowish play in final 3rd , and some slack passes .. But this is the beginning, im encouraged by what i watched yesterday.
B.H.F.C
31-07-2022, 12:51 PM
If newell plays the role he played yesterday , taking the ball forward and looking to play forward passes , then kennehs role is simple. For it to work , kenneh needs to sit and break the play , newell needs to be box to box (which i think he did well yesterday) and Henderson needs to link midfield with the 3 attackers .. I could see that happening for large spells yesterday. Alright there were a few heavy touches , some slowish play in final 3rd , and some slack passes .. But this is the beginning, im encouraged by what i watched yesterday.
Definitely a better balance than we saw last year.
Thought Newell really tried to drive us on yesterday. He has a hell of a lot of the ball though, needs a bit more end product.
Greenio
31-07-2022, 01:16 PM
He did save an almost certain St Johnstone goal with being really switched on 2nd half too
Only 19 too - has massive potential
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Is he? Never knew that. He plays like someone with a lot of experience. Was quality yesterday. There was one point when he did a little almost 360 pivot turn on the spot when I think he had two StJ players close in on him, avoided them both and found a Hibs player with the pass forward. Class
Brightside
31-07-2022, 01:48 PM
I can't actually believe this. Amazing what a last minute goal can do. He done absolutely nothing, we created nowt. He never helped in terms is an attacking threat and in truth he wasn't really needed against a crap St.Johnstone. He would have been the first player hooked if I was manager, and in my opinion Johnson's subs were pointless and he got away with one. Much better needed going forward. We never created a proper chance. Worrying as expected.
You don’t actually watch football based on your recent comments. He never helped in an attacking threat? He’s a DM. His job is to allow the rest the freedom to get forward and not have to defend as much. Football is really simple if people carry out their roles properly. That’s what Kenneh is doing.
JammyDoidger
31-07-2022, 02:59 PM
You don’t actually watch football based on your recent comments. He never helped in an attacking threat? He’s a DM. His job is to allow the rest the freedom to get forward and not have to defend as much. Football is really simple if people carry out their roles properly. That’s what Kenneh is doing.
You obviously don't read all the comments before posting either.
Callum_62
31-07-2022, 03:10 PM
You obviously don't read all the comments before posting either.Hibs totally dominated the midfield
He was a big reason why
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Leith Green
31-07-2022, 04:19 PM
Definitely a better balance than we saw last year.
Thought Newell really tried to drive us on yesterday. He has a hell of a lot of the ball though, needs a bit more end product.
Hopefully the runs of our quicker forwards we have signed will see this improve. It will take newell and the forwards time to suss each other out. Whoever plays left attacker has won a watch though, make the run beyond the full back because the new left back will play you in time and again.
Leith Green
31-07-2022, 04:20 PM
Definitely a better balance than we saw last year.
Thought Newell really tried to drive us on yesterday. He has a hell of a lot of the ball though, needs a bit more end product.
He actually has a lot more dig than given credit for as well
JohnM1875
07-08-2022, 04:31 PM
I know after today there will be loads of player threads popping up, but really impressed with Kenneh today (hadn't been previously). Love how committed he is and thought he made a lot of great tackles. Unfortunately he'll need to get used to refereeing like Beaton, but think we have a real player on our hands.
Brightside
07-08-2022, 04:32 PM
Excellent again.
I thought he was a shadow of the player that dominated last week.
Brightside
07-08-2022, 04:37 PM
I thought he was a shadow of the player that dominated last week.
I’m not sure how you get to that opinion. They got nothing through the middle bar when both of CBs were lost in action. He must have made 20 plus important tackles in the first half alone.
Hibernian Verse
07-08-2022, 04:38 PM
I’m not sure how you get to that opinion. They got nothing through the middle bar when both of CBs were lost in action. He must have made 20 plus important tackles in the first half alone.
Agree. Every opportunity they got they bypassed the midfield.
Unseen work
07-08-2022, 04:39 PM
Off the ball I again thought he was very good, some brilliant tackles and interceptions.
Needs to brush up a bit on the ball at times but think that will come.
Only 19 and this is his first couple of games at mens football, very encouraging signs
bingo70
07-08-2022, 04:41 PM
Excellent again.
I agree. I thought he was excellent today.
Worth bearing in mind he’s only 19 too, imo he’s an incredible talent and games like this suit him far more than playing the likes of Morton at home. Really excited about him.
eastmainsmsh
07-08-2022, 04:44 PM
Didn't realise he was 19 big future looks the part
Nicho87
07-08-2022, 04:48 PM
Was very good imo
Even from the league cup games he has improved and realised Scottish football is 100mph
Keep it up
theonlywayisup
07-08-2022, 04:50 PM
Off the ball I again thought he was very good, some brilliant tackles and interceptions.
Needs to brush up a bit on the ball at times but think that will come.
Only 19 and this is his first couple of games at mens football, very encouraging signs
Yes, considering his age and lack of games, I'm very impressed with him.
Our midfield needs new recruits, but Kenneh would be the one that I would retain, albeit we should be resting him in games that we'll dominate the ball and need more creative players.
Northernhibee
07-08-2022, 04:52 PM
He’s the real deal.
gazzag70
07-08-2022, 05:08 PM
He is already a really good player and at 19 years old he is only going to get better and better.I think we have a real class act here and I am looking forward to seeing him mature into a great player
Coach Jon
07-08-2022, 05:16 PM
Did well for a 19 year old in a derby, can only get better for the experience.
EdinMike
07-08-2022, 05:16 PM
I’m glad people are now seeing what I saw glimpses of the first few games he played. Can only go strength to strength.
Johnny_Leith
07-08-2022, 05:26 PM
Once he gets better in possession, which he will, he'll come on leaps and bounds. Got a very bright future. Hibs will make millions from him.
Sgt. Hartman
07-08-2022, 05:45 PM
For a 19 year old to play the anchor in midfield is so impressive, wise beyond his years in the dark arts.
We have won a watch with that laddie!
Pretty Boy
07-08-2022, 05:49 PM
Thought he played well.
Only relatively minor criticism is I thought there were a couple of times that he looked for the man to try and get involved in something physical when the ball was there to be had without it. It happened in the run up to the goal albeit to blame him for that would be harsh in the extreme.
We have big issues in midfield but he isn't one of them. Does what he does well. He was left ruthlessly exposed at times today as well. There was a period in the 1st half were he made about 5 or 6 tackles in a 5 minute spell as Hearts walked by the other 2.
Eyrie
07-08-2022, 06:55 PM
Kenneh gives us a solidity that will allow the other two midfielders to push up and support the front line.
A game like today was ideal for him to demonstrate that, and his ball playing will improve as he gains in experience.
Paulie Walnuts
07-08-2022, 07:00 PM
Done really well.
Thought he’s been poor before today generally but he was very good.
CapitalGreen
07-08-2022, 07:01 PM
Done really well.
Thought he’s been poor before today generally but he was very good.
You thought he was poor v St Johnstone?
Paulie Walnuts
07-08-2022, 07:03 PM
You thought he was poor v St Johnstone?
Generally I thought he’d been poor. He was ok v St J but I thought he was really poor in alot of the league cup games. So overall, I thought he’d generally been quite poor so far.
LaMotta
07-08-2022, 07:28 PM
Generally I thought he’d been poor. He was ok v St J but I thought he was really poor in alot of the league cup games. So overall, I thought he’d generally been quite poor so far.
You are right he was very poor in the league cup games, particularly v Bonnyrigg and Morton.
Today was his best game for us, and he did much better than I thought he would based on his previous performances. That said I think the jury is still out and I'm struggling to understand some of the superlatives on here. Eg lost a 60 40 in his favour today v Shankland and think he needs to be much better on the ball.
WestStandWillie
08-08-2022, 07:49 AM
More positives then negatives for me. Think he also gives the centre halves a wee bit confidence.
Sure he gives the ball away a few times a match but he bursts a gut to win it back. Young laddie, still raw in places. Will only get better
KdyHby
08-08-2022, 12:45 PM
https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/liam-cooper-aston-villa-midfielder-24692826
Northernhibee
08-08-2022, 03:50 PM
https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/liam-cooper-aston-villa-midfielder-24692826
An admirable, switched on young man.
Torto7
08-08-2022, 04:56 PM
Teams aren't getting the same space on counter attacks against us so far. Last season there was gaping holes behind JDH. I think a lot of the good play Kenneh does won't always be obvious when watching.
Steve88
08-08-2022, 05:06 PM
Kennah's role will forever be one of thee most unglamorous but critical roles in our style of play.
The guy was brilliant yesterday, watch the game back and just watch him.
We'll only ever know just how pivotal he is until he's gone, much like a certain Mr Bartley...
Mikey_1875
08-08-2022, 05:28 PM
Opening half hour especially I thought he was winning everything. I don’t really buy into the whole unseen work stuff but yesterday was a game I would have expected him to play well in and he did.
It will be interesting to see how his game adapts against teams where we are on top for the majority of it.
Cuikyhibs
08-08-2022, 06:43 PM
No player in the spfl has had more tackles, interceptions and recoveries so far than Kenneh...taken from the official website, impressive
Since452
08-08-2022, 06:43 PM
No player in the spfl has had more tackles, interceptions and recoveries so far than Kenneh...taken from the official website, impressive
Only 19. Very impressive.
I like him,hopefully improves each game
Libby Hibby
08-08-2022, 06:51 PM
Lovely fellow too
Callum_62
08-08-2022, 10:13 PM
Early days but I reckon this lad has real potential - think we have got a diamond here myself
Already making a mark in a position that takes real maturity and only 19
Brightside
09-08-2022, 06:42 AM
No player in the spfl has had more tackles, interceptions and recoveries so far than Kenneh...taken from the official website, impressive
Exactly why we brought him onboard.
Northernhibee
09-08-2022, 06:52 AM
I have no doubt he’s got massive potential in the future way beyond this league. Enjoy him when he’s here. It’s the calmness about him that impressed me the most.
Hibernian Verse
09-08-2022, 07:16 AM
I have no doubt he’s got massive potential in the future way beyond this league. Enjoy him when he’s here. It’s the calmness about him that impressed me the most.
For a 19 year old he's very chilled. It's easy to forget how old he is whilst you're at the game as there's a lot more on your mind, and maybe because he just looks a player beyond his years.
Hope he kicks on as we could have a very good prospect on our hands.
sambajustice
09-08-2022, 07:27 AM
A few of the Leeds fans I know were disappointed he left. Rated him pretty highly. Had a lot of players in his position in front of him, including Phillips so wasn't likely to get much game time so backed himself and his ability and went elsewhere for football.
How long is his contract?
Since452
09-08-2022, 07:33 AM
Leeds will be trying to get him back at this rate.
green day
09-08-2022, 07:38 AM
No player in the spfl has had more tackles, interceptions and recoveries so far than Kenneh...taken from the official website, impressive
Good to know - do you have a link to that detail, like much of the SPFL website I am struggling to find anything apart from the top line "scorers, cards" bit?
Paulie Walnuts
09-08-2022, 07:42 AM
Good to know - do you have a link to that detail, like much of the SPFL website I am struggling to find anything apart from the top line "scorers, cards" bit?
Hibs put it on social media. It’s on instagram, may well be on others.
green day
09-08-2022, 07:49 AM
Hibs put it on social media. It’s on instagram, may well be on others.
Cheers, hadnt spotted that............spending too much time rewatching Boyles goal :thumbsup:
McGruber
09-08-2022, 07:55 AM
Thought Kenneh was great yesterday. Got caught under the ball at the Shankland goal but that was more on the 2 centre backs going awol and him having to cover.
Was an interesting observation aswell though regarding the Kenneh/JDH substitution. Some bumping of gums JDH coming on chasing a goal instead of an attacking sub however it gave us more foward passing from deep - Kenneh 16 passes in 80 mins and JDH 14 passes in 10 mins, including 1 through ball. Played a big part in the last 10 min press
SHODAN
09-08-2022, 08:16 AM
Wasn't too impressed pre-season, coming onto a game now.
Libby Hibby
09-08-2022, 08:49 AM
He’s Rolls Royce
Tambo
09-08-2022, 10:33 AM
King Kenneh
Greencore
09-08-2022, 10:39 AM
Wasn't too impressed pre-season, coming onto a game now.
Needed time to settle in. Like our other signings
SChibs
09-08-2022, 10:39 AM
At 19 moving to a new league with new players and new manager I wasn't surprised when it took him a while to get going. Keep forgetting he's only 19 when I watch him play
ZitellZeTime
09-08-2022, 10:57 AM
At 19 moving to a new league with new players and new manager I wasn't surprised when it took him a while to get going. Keep forgetting he's only 19 when I watch him play
Exactly add the fact he's never actually played professional football before, only under 23, only made the bench as an unused sub on matchday I think like 10 times i read.
Saw flashes in pre season but since the leagues started and he must be getting more used to the system we play, players around him, playing against grown men/professional players each week he has been great since the start of the league.
Watching him against hearts when they had a player driving forward a few times, which last season would have went through us or out to mckay or through to a striker, but he times it perfectly ti either intercept the play or challenge that player, get up back up with the ball at his feet then playing it to one of our players, same the week before.
Last season they probably would have resulted in goals or atleast chances, makes a big difference and like you say only 19 only his second game in a professional league and he looks so composed out there like he been here for years. He aint a striker or a flashy winger but does his job and does it well, has a decent pass on him when he does attempt a decent ball too, won'r score many I don't think but he will prevent a a lot of chances which could lead to goals.
I googled to see how long he's with us, with him getting used to being a pro in a proper league only two games in, unless something happens he's just going to get better and better so hopefully its a decent contract.
Alan62
09-08-2022, 10:59 AM
I'm not seeing it yet, personally. He always seems to be stretching for everything and never really in control. Time will tell. I hope I'm wrong.
Unseen work
09-08-2022, 11:07 AM
I think the difference having him in there is very noticeable, he seems to have great positioning for his age and pops up winning the ball all over the place.
There’s room for improvement of course, especially on the ball but it’s been a really good start.
If he was get a bit more quality in us touch and passing what a player we’ll have. A lot of it could be nerves, he’s went from playing 23s football to Sunday in front of a full Easter road.
overdrive
09-08-2022, 01:31 PM
I was quite worried when in I saw him in pre-season and the League Cup games but he’s been really good in the two league games. Maybe goes to ground a bit often when he could stay on his feet and distribute it once he’s won the ball.
Greenbeard
13-08-2022, 07:41 PM
I've only just seen the highlights but can anyone who was there explain to me how the f... Kenneh was justified in staying on the park for the second half after what must be one of the most feeble attempts on a 50/50 ball combined with a jog back not bothering one jot about getting in a challenge or even a block to make up for his Under-9 level mistake in midfield?
Unseen work
13-08-2022, 07:46 PM
I've only just seen the highlights but can anyone who was there explain to me how the f... Kenneh was justified in staying on the park for the second half after what must be one of the most feeble attempts on a 50/50 ball combined with a jog back not bothering one jot about getting in a challenge or even a block to make up for his Under-9 level mistake in midfield?
Think he was caught on his toes and then when Nouble had the ball and running that he never wanted to give away a foul and they would end up crowding him out and winning it back - Hanlon then dived in and made his mind up for him
A really poor goal to concede.
That aside I thought Kenneh was again one of our better players today, denied another certain goal with a last ditch tackle in the second half
Greenbeard
13-08-2022, 07:50 PM
Think he was caught on his toes and then when Nouble had the ball and running that he never wanted to give away a foul and they would end up crowding him out and winning it back - Hanlon then dived in and made his mind up for him
A really poor goal to concede.
That aside I thought Kenneh was again one of our better players today, denied another certain goal with a last ditch tackle in the second half
That aside, I thought based on that one incident that he should have been hooked and given an abslolute rocket never ever again to play pansy half-hearted football like that in a Hibs jersey.
B.H.F.C
13-08-2022, 07:53 PM
He needs to get up to the pace of the game here for me.
Wants too much time on the ball at times. The fact he just jogged back at the opening goal is being highlighted but he was just waiting on the ball coming to him in the first place while the Livi player saw that and sprinted 10, 15 yards to get there first. He needs to realise that what happens up here, especially somewhere like that.
SlickShoes
13-08-2022, 07:58 PM
I've only just seen the highlights but can anyone who was there explain to me how the f... Kenneh was justified in staying on the park for the second half after what must be one of the most feeble attempts on a 50/50 ball combined with a jog back not bothering one jot about getting in a challenge or even a block to make up for his Under-9 level mistake in midfield?
The pass to him was daft, he was under pressure instantly, he then lost the ball around the halfway line to one of the slowest players on earth. Our defence should have been capable of defending that, very poor.
B.H.F.C
13-08-2022, 08:23 PM
The pass to him was daft, he was under pressure instantly, he then lost the ball around the halfway line to one of the slowest players on earth. Our defence should have been capable of defending that, very poor.
If he goes and meets the ball I don’t think he’s under much pressure. He was flat footed, waiting on it. And his reaction was even worse.
Good midfielders will take the ball under pressure no problem anyway.
Scotty Leither
13-08-2022, 08:55 PM
Are our players cynical and streetwise enough?
There are teams in this league who would not have let Noubile have a clear run at them like that- our mates across the city are past masters at it, one of them tried to fell Boyle last week in the lead up to our goal and the amount of sly breaking up and slowing down of play is something we seem to regularly be on the wrong side of too…
B.H.F.C
13-08-2022, 09:17 PM
Are our players cynical and streetwise enough?
There are teams in this league who would not have let Noubile have a clear run at them like that- our mates across the city are past masters at it, one of them tried to fell Boyle last week in the lead up to our goal and the amount of sly breaking up and slowing down of play is something we seem to regularly be on the wrong side of too…
He’d have had to actually run after him properly to be able to foul him.
Brightside
13-08-2022, 09:19 PM
The pass to him was daft, he was under pressure instantly, he then lost the ball around the halfway line to one of the slowest players on earth. Our defence should have been capable of defending that, very poor.
It’s a hospital pass.
matty_f
13-08-2022, 09:23 PM
It’s a hospital pass.
The pass was short and under-hit. Kenneh should have reacted better and moved towards the ball, i think he was caught out by the Livi player’s speed. Cabraja then Kenneh then Hanlon we’re culpable for the goal.
Brightside
13-08-2022, 09:24 PM
The pass was short and under-hit. Kenneh should have reacted better and moved towards the ball, i think he was caught out by the Livi player’s speed. Cabraja then Kenneh then Hanlon we’re culpable for the goal.
I don’t disagree.
Brightside
13-08-2022, 09:26 PM
He’d have had to actually run after him properly to be able to foul him.
He a was the only one running back v hearts when our CBs went walkabout. Our defensive shape is appalling in a lot of our games now.
B.H.F.C
13-08-2022, 09:28 PM
The pass was short and under-hit. Kenneh should have reacted better and moved towards the ball, i think he was caught out by the Livi player’s speed. Cabraja then Kenneh then Hanlon we’re culpable for the goal.
That’s definitely something Kenneh needs to get to grips with. Players up here aren’t all technically gifted but the press you and sprint to everything. Well players for teams like Livingston do. Even in the league cup games there were times he wanted too much time on the ball. He needs to sharpen up for me. He’s young and I see potential there but I’ve not seen the Rolls Royce performances folk have been talking about.
B.H.F.C
13-08-2022, 09:33 PM
He a was the only one running back v hearts when our CBs went walkabout. Our defensive shape is appalling in a lot of our games now.
He ran back today as well, just too slowly. He’s part of that defensive shape for me. I do feel a bit sorry for him because he’s another one of these young guys that we’re asking to go in and solve our problems. He needs help and he’s not going to get it from the others around him in midfield.
brydekirk
13-08-2022, 09:58 PM
I like him but he did have a poor first half
brydekirk
13-08-2022, 10:00 PM
I've only just seen the highlights but can anyone who was there explain to me how the f... Kenneh was justified in staying on the park for the second half after what must be one of the most feeble attempts on a 50/50 ball combined with a jog back not bothering one jot about getting in a challenge or even a block to make up for his Under-9 level mistake in midfield?
We don't have anyone to replace him.
lucky
14-08-2022, 06:59 AM
He’s not good enough to be playing week in week out at this level. He’s too used to playing youth and reserve football. His jog back yesterday at the first goal was shocking but Hanlon also deserves a special mention for his feeble attempt at a tackle.
Paulie Walnuts
14-08-2022, 07:13 AM
He ran back today as well, just too slowly. He’s part of that defensive shape for me. I do feel a bit sorry for him because he’s another one of these young guys that we’re asking to go in and solve our problems. He needs help and he’s not going to get it from the others around him in midfield.
That’s my concern with guys like Kenneh. He’s decent, I don’t think he’s exceptional at this point though and I’m not sure he’ll massively improve us. Guys like Newell will do absolutely nothing to help him out though and will just end up dragging him down.
Allant1981
14-08-2022, 07:17 AM
He had one good game a couple of weeks ago and thats been about it, got told on here he is the best signing we have made this year, the guy at the moment isnt good enough to improve us, he may well turn out to be but he is a young guy still learning, not what we needed just now
SquashedFrogg
14-08-2022, 09:09 AM
He’s not good enough to be playing week in week out at this level. He’s too used to playing youth and reserve football. His jog back yesterday at the first goal was shocking but Hanlon also deserves a special mention for his feeble attempt at a tackle.
Our left back also deserves a shout for yet another poor, misplaced pass which led to the goal. He would've been more effective yesterday sitting up beside me in the stand.
And why does Porto always evade criticism? Embarrassing dives all over the place. A liability in defence. Even Omeonga looked embarrassed for him at one stage.
Libby Hibby
14-08-2022, 09:17 AM
Our left back also deserves a shout for yet another poor, misplaced pass which led to the goal. He would've been more effective yesterday sitting up beside me in the stand.
And why does Porto always evade criticism? Embarrassing dives all over the place. A liability in defence. Even Omeonga looked embarrassed for him at one stage.
Did he now? Is he now? Interesting
BoomtownHibees
14-08-2022, 09:20 AM
Our left back also deserves a shout for yet another poor, misplaced pass which led to the goal. He would've been more effective yesterday sitting up beside me in the stand.
And why does Porto always evade criticism? Embarrassing dives all over the place. A liability in defence. Even Omeonga looked embarrassed for him at one stage.
Thought Porto had a decent game yesterday 🤷🏻
Callum_62
14-08-2022, 09:25 AM
Our left back also deserves a shout for yet another poor, misplaced pass which led to the goal. He would've been more effective yesterday sitting up beside me in the stand.
And why does Porto always evade criticism? Embarrassing dives all over the place. A liability in defence. Even Omeonga looked embarrassed for him at one stage.Did he aye? [emoji38]
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Paulie Walnuts
14-08-2022, 09:28 AM
Did he aye? [emoji38]
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To be fair he did at one point. Omeonga barely touched him, if at all and he was down rolling around. It’s getting old and getting old fast.
JimBHibees
14-08-2022, 09:55 AM
He a was the only one running back v hearts when our CBs went walkabout. Our defensive shape is appalling in a lot of our games now.
Yep no idea what our centre backs were doing with the goal particularly Porto charging out though if Kenneh watches the ball it is a simple clearance. Yesterday he made an average pass into a poor one by not reacting quickly enough imo and he should have levelled Holt no point having that sort of player in centre mid if they don't offer the physicality required especially up against teams like Livingston. Got to be said that pitch is absolutely horrific and imo should be banned until of a requisite standard
JimBHibees
14-08-2022, 10:05 AM
To be fair he did at one point. Omeonga barely touched him, if at all and he was down rolling around. It’s getting old and getting old fast.
Clear booking for me deliberately late tackle. Porto played well yesterday and showed a bit backbone in standing up for Boyle when cleared out which should have after he second tackle a couple of mins later resulted in a clear red unfortunately a weak as a kitten ref didn't help.
JimBHibees
14-08-2022, 10:05 AM
Thought Porto had a decent game yesterday 🤷🏻
He did but apparently that isn't a good thing. :greengrin
CallumHibs07
14-08-2022, 10:10 AM
Haven't been impressed with him in any game. Zero technical ability and apparently another heartless imposter.
SaulGoodman
14-08-2022, 10:14 AM
Haven't been impressed with him in any game. Zero technical ability and apparently another heartless imposter.
Nice. He’s 19 years old.
WhileTheChief..
14-08-2022, 10:14 AM
He had one good game a couple of weeks ago and thats been about it, got told on here he is the best signing we have made this year, the guy at the moment isnt good enough to improve us, he may well turn out to be but he is a young guy still learning, not what we needed just now
Same with most of our signings this summer.
Actually, it's the same with most signings since RG took over.
There's not many we can point to and say, "yup, he's been sound for us" or look to sell on for a profit.
Stuart93
14-08-2022, 10:16 AM
Haven't been impressed with him in any game. Zero technical ability and apparently another heartless imposter.
What the **** are you talking about
JimBHibees
14-08-2022, 10:20 AM
If he goes and meets the ball I don’t think he’s under much pressure. He was flat footed, waiting on it. And his reaction was even worse.
Good midfielders will take the ball under pressure no problem anyway.
Agree with that. Go towards the ball first touch away from pressure protect it and no issue.
CallumHibs07
14-08-2022, 10:23 AM
Nice. He’s 19 years old.
So that's an excuse to not bother your arse?
Cool.
JimBHibees
14-08-2022, 10:28 AM
What the **** are you talking about
Yep incredible take. Must have been gutted when he scored.
JimBHibees
14-08-2022, 10:31 AM
So that's an excuse to not bother your arse?
Cool.
He didn't react quickly enough simple as but definitely should have been helped by a better pass and the defenders behind him. He is 19 years old and coming to terms with new surroundings pace of game and frankly a pitch not at a standard for a top level game.
DinkyTwo
14-08-2022, 10:34 AM
Haven't been impressed with him in any game. Zero technical ability and apparently another heartless imposter.That's not just massively unfair on the lad, but quite obviously incorrect. I'd rather have him in our midfield right now than not.
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CallumHibs07
14-08-2022, 10:37 AM
Yep incredible take. Must have been gutted when he scored.
Nope. I'm gutted that we've lost to that tinpot outfit for the 4th time in a row though
That's not just massively unfair on the lad, but quite obviously incorrect. I'd rather have him in our midfield right now than not.
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Disagree. Would rather have JDH or Delferriere who we've sent to League 1
JimBHibees
14-08-2022, 10:42 AM
Nope. I'm gutted that we've lost to that tinpot outfit for the 4th time in a row though
As are everyone else though your clearly emotional analysis of a young 19 year old player does seem a trifle at the extreme end of criticism :greengrin
GreenGray
14-08-2022, 10:54 AM
The clip on Livi’s Twitter of the first goal is pretty damning on Kenneh tbh.
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DarrenSQH
14-08-2022, 11:16 AM
The clip on Livi’s Twitter of the first goal is pretty damning on Kenneh tbh.
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Saw the same thing. Shocker of a ball into him by Cabreja and Hanlons attempt at a tackle is woeful. However I can live more with mistakes than a lack of effort. It's the 6th minute and hes gave up there. No excuse for that.
flash
14-08-2022, 11:18 AM
Haven't been impressed with him in any game. Zero technical ability and apparently another heartless imposter.
What a horrible take.
CMac1988
14-08-2022, 11:20 AM
https://youtu.be/cf1myyu45J4
GreenGray
14-08-2022, 11:21 AM
Saw the same thing. Shocker of a ball into him by Cabreja and Hanlons attempt at a tackle is woeful. However I can live more with mistakes than a lack of effort. It's the 6th minute and hes gave up there. No excuse for that.
The effort is so little I’m now just wondering if he’d really slow
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LaMotta
14-08-2022, 12:19 PM
The effort is so little I’m now just wondering if he’d really slow
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He isnt energetic enough to play at this level IMO. He looked out his depth v Bonnyrigg and Morton and some of the plaudits he's recieved over the last few weeks are mystifying.
It's a real worry for me if he is going to be a regular in the team.
Ronniekirk
14-08-2022, 12:32 PM
We have to stick with him I think he will develop
Paulie Walnuts
14-08-2022, 12:37 PM
The view of the goal in Livingstons tweet does Kenneh absolutely no favours. Half hearted is an absolute understatement. Terrible from him, terrible from Hanlon.
RMQ1967
14-08-2022, 12:41 PM
He isnt energetic enough to play at this level IMO. He looked out his depth v Bonnyrigg and Morton and some of the plaudits he's recieved over the last few weeks are mystifying.
It's a real worry for me if he is going to be a regular in the team.
He's 19 in his first season of first team football.
None of that gives any excuse but to say he looks out of his depth is extreme - he's been fine or better & i haven't seen anything that concerns me - in fact there are a lot of encouraging signs.
Heisenberg
14-08-2022, 12:49 PM
He’s been very slow since pre season. Continually gets caught on the ball. Hopefully he sharpens up a bit. Shouldn’t be relying on a 19 year old to hold our midfield together but that’s where we are with this squad and this transfer window.
JDH, Newell and Campbell new deals have proven to be horrific decisions.
Smartie
14-08-2022, 12:55 PM
I like Kenneh.
He's far from perfect and makes mistakes (some costly) but you can only expect him to improve with games and time.
There are other players who are much further from being able to make a positive contribution for us who we're going to have to tolerate playing a decent amount of first team football.
Our "project" works when the players are like Kenneh.
LaMotta
14-08-2022, 01:08 PM
He's 19 in his first season of first team football.
None of that gives any excuse but to say he looks out of his depth is extreme - he's been fine or better & i haven't seen anything that concerns me - in fact there are a lot of encouraging signs.
There was a passage of play in the Bonnyrigg game where their midfielder strolled past him like he wasn't there and he fell on his arse. That is seriously worrying against a part time team.
His reaction yesterday to the pass from Cabreja and attempt to get back also looked like a player miles out his depth.
When Chris Mueller got outpaced by a Cove player ( Fyvie I think) on his debut again the warning signs were there of things to come about him being not good enough to play here. I hope you are right about Kenneh but I doubt it.
Brightside
14-08-2022, 01:12 PM
Isn’t energetic? Eyes must be painted on some people.
LaMotta
14-08-2022, 01:17 PM
Isn’t energetic? Eyes must be painted on some people.
He looks likes he's wading through treacle at times. You need new specs. To be fair you've been one of the ones going way OTT and overrating his performances so no surprise.
Paulie Walnuts
14-08-2022, 01:23 PM
Isn’t energetic? Eyes must be painted on some people.
The goal on Saturday couldn’t be further from an energetic player. He’s chasing their striker back as if he’s coming up to the finish line of a marathon despite it being about 10 minutes into the game. He even makes a couple of half arsed grabs at him which were pitiful and finishes it off with a really crap flick of his boot trying to clip his heels.
It’s one of the least energetic period of plays I’ve ever seen.
B.H.F.C
14-08-2022, 01:23 PM
Isn’t energetic? Eyes must be painted on some people.
Did he look energetic trying to run back about five minutes in to the game yesterday?
MWHIBBIES
14-08-2022, 01:24 PM
Haven't been impressed with him in any game. Zero technical ability and apparently another heartless imposter.
ffs
This place is gone honestly.
LaMotta
14-08-2022, 01:25 PM
The goal on Saturday couldn’t be further from an energetic player. He’s chasing their striker back as if he’s coming up to the finish line of a marathon despite it being about 10 minutes into the game. He even makes a couple of half arsed grabs at him which were pitiful.
Did he look energetic trying to run back about five minutes in to the game yesterday?
Reassuring that I'm not the only one with my "eyes painted on".
Paulie Walnuts
14-08-2022, 01:29 PM
Reassuring that I'm not the only one with my "eyes painted on".
https://twitter.com/livifcofficial/status/1558722434307686401?s=21&t=S9gMJaRB5Gzk7Qb8fZsVdQ
LaMotta
14-08-2022, 01:30 PM
https://twitter.com/livifcofficial/status/1558722434307686401?s=21&t=S9gMJaRB5Gzk7Qb8fZsVdQ
It's absolutely shocking mate.
JimBHibees
14-08-2022, 01:34 PM
Are we desperate to slaughter every player we have particularly young ones who have just scored their first goal? Any sort of context that would lift the quality of debate would help. Bit of patience for a new squad and players and manager.
Allant1981
14-08-2022, 01:43 PM
Isn’t energetic? Eyes must be painted on some people.
You also claimed he is the best signing of the summer
LaMotta
14-08-2022, 01:46 PM
Are we desperate to slaughter every player we have particularly young ones who have just scored their first goal? Any sort of context that would lift the quality of debate would help. Bit of patience for a new squad and players and manager.
Of course we are not - what we are desperate for is for Hibs to be doing well on the park.
Nobody has anything against him, we all want him to be a good Hibs player. I dont think saying that you can't criticise a player because he is relatively new and relatively young is really lifting the quality of the debate.
JimBHibees
14-08-2022, 01:58 PM
Of course we are not - what we are desperate for is for Hibs to be doing well on the park.
Nobody has anything against him, we all want him to be a good Hibs player. I dont think saying that you can't criticise a player because he is relatively new and relatively young is really lifting the quality of the debate.
He definitely should have done better with both yesterday's first goal and also last weeks imo but some of the criticism is ridiculous. He needs help in the middle also he wasn't exactly helped in either goal by some of his team mates. He did an interview after the game on Hibs tv and was definitely honest enough to say we were nowhere near good enough particularly first half. He needs to do better he knows that but needs support also.
His performance in the Gunts game made me realise he’s got loads of promise. How many 19 year-olds hold down a defensive midfield role in the SPL. And now he’s scored a goal, something we’ve been crying out for for years.
All it takes on a messageboard is for a few critics, panic merchants and closet Yams to band together to pull down morale during a period of rebuilding. Thankfully the Hibs players and the majority of long life Hibees appreciate a young guy doing his best when pulling on the jersey.
Paulie Walnuts
14-08-2022, 02:38 PM
His performance in the Gunts game made me realise he’s got loads of promise. How many 19 year-olds hold down a defensive midfield role in the SPL. And now he’s scored a goal, something we’ve been crying out for for years.
All it takes on a messageboard is for a few critics, panic merchants and closet Yams to band together to pull down morale during a period of rebuilding. Thankfully the Hibs players and the majority of long life Hibees appreciate a young guy doing his best when pulling on the jersey.
Or alternatively, all it takes is getting pumped out the League Cup by Falkirk, Morton, Clyde and Bonnyrigg Rose and then doing nothing to set the heather alight in your first 3 league games and not bother sorting out the glaring deficiencies throughout the spine of our team whilst delivering some abysmal performances like the first 45 mins yesterday culminating with us losing the match to two terrible goals to concede. Thats a much more sure fire way to pull morale down amongst the fans.
LaMotta
14-08-2022, 03:01 PM
His performance in the Gunts game made me realise he’s got loads of promise. How many 19 year-olds hold down a defensive midfield role in the SPL. And now he’s scored a goal, something we’ve been crying out for for years.
All it takes on a messageboard is for a few critics, panic merchants and closet Yams to band together to pull down morale during a period of rebuilding. Thankfully the Hibs players and the majority of long life Hibees appreciate a young guy doing his best when pulling on the jersey.
Absolutely bizarre take.
cabbageandribs1875
14-08-2022, 03:03 PM
His performance in the Gunts game made me realise he’s got loads of promise. How many 19 year-olds hold down a defensive midfield role in the SPL. And now he’s scored a goal, something we’ve been crying out for for years.
All it takes on a messageboard is for a few critics, panic merchants and closet Yams to band together to pull down morale during a period of rebuilding. Thankfully the Hibs players and the majority of long life Hibees appreciate a young guy doing his best when pulling on the jersey.
name them
Northernhibee
14-08-2022, 03:09 PM
Didn’t start yesterday the best but I think he’s a brilliant prospect and will be a huge player for us. Like him a lot.
B.H.F.C
14-08-2022, 03:52 PM
His performance in the Gunts game made me realise he’s got loads of promise. How many 19 year-olds hold down a defensive midfield role in the SPL. And now he’s scored a goal, something we’ve been crying out for for years.
All it takes on a messageboard is for a few critics, panic merchants and closet Yams to band together to pull down morale during a period of rebuilding. Thankfully the Hibs players and the majority of long life Hibees appreciate a young guy doing his best when pulling on the jersey.
What pulls the morale down is the type of performance and result we saw yesterday.
The criticism, IMO, isn’t really being at aimed at a young guy like Kenneh, it’s at the fact we’re asking a 19 year old like him to get us through this period of rebuilding we keep talking about. Same with Tavares. Or Melkersen
For all the talk about rebuilding we these young guys need help or they don’t stand a chance.
SlickShoes
14-08-2022, 03:59 PM
What pulls the morale down is the type of performance and result we saw yesterday.
The criticism, IMO, isn’t really being at aimed at a young guy like Kenneh, it’s at the fact we’re asking a 19 year old like him to get us through this period of rebuilding we keep talking about. Same with Tavares. Or Melkersen
For all the talk about rebuilding we these young guys need help or they don’t stand a chance.
It is though, otherwise we wouldn't have a 7 page thread about him.
If this guy had came through our youth ranks, had played like he has in the first 3 league games, making one costly mistake and scoring a goal, we would be raving about him.
B.H.F.C
14-08-2022, 04:07 PM
It is though, otherwise we wouldn't have a 7 page thread about him.
If this guy had came through our youth ranks, had played like he has in the first 3 league games, making one costly mistake and scoring a goal, we would be raving about him.
Disagree. He’s not done anything to merit being raved about but neither has he been terrible.
It’s him that is out on the pitch so obviously we are going to comment on what he’s doing when he’s there. I think the vast majority of people realise he’s a kid with no first team experienced though and there is more frustration that we’re asking him to fix the glaring issues in that area of the pitch than there is with him.
He does deserve a bit of stick for his attempt to track back yesterday because that’s just a lack of application on his part.
Since452
14-08-2022, 04:15 PM
Kenneh has really impressed me for a 19 year old. Really pleased he's joined us but we also need another experienced player in there. Don't ask me who though!
Big_Franck
14-08-2022, 04:25 PM
https://twitter.com/livifcofficial/status/1558722434307686401?s=21&t=S9gMJaRB5Gzk7Qb8fZsVdQ
That's the first time I've seen the goal and that's absolutely shocking from Kenneh and Hanlon. I've come to expect it from Hanlon but I was hoping for more from Kenneh. It's absolutely criminal that our only attempt at sorting our disaster of a midfield has been to sign a teenager who had never played men's football.
blackpoolhibs
14-08-2022, 04:41 PM
I think he is a very good prospect, and that's the problem, we have way too many good prospects, littered with some utter crap.
Hibernian Verse
14-08-2022, 04:55 PM
That's the first time I've seen the goal and that's absolutely shocking from Kenneh and Hanlon. I've come to expect it from Hanlon but I was hoping for more from Kenneh. It's absolutely criminal that our only attempt at sorting our disaster of a midfield has been to sign a teenager who had never played men's football.
The initial problem was Cabraja’s ***** square pass
LewysGot2
14-08-2022, 04:56 PM
The initial problem was Cabraja’s ***** square pass
Yup. And that’s where the team directed their ire.
BoomtownHibees
14-08-2022, 05:05 PM
The initial problem was Cabraja’s ***** square pass
It wasn’t a great pass but Kenneh was asleep waiting for it. And then his pitiful attempt at getting back alongside Hanlon turning in to the invisible man compounded it
BoomtownHibees
14-08-2022, 05:05 PM
Yup. And that’s where the team directed their ire.
Kenneh got a bit stick as well tbf
My laddie played youth football from U10 to U18. Whenever a new player joined the squad he was phased in and it usually took half a dozen games for him to knit into the playing style.
We sign a young boy from Leeds and straight away he’s playing SPL. Then he makes a mistake and some fan nies are on his back.
They probably didn’t even notice that he scored his first goal for the club. That must be a great feeling for a young man at a new club.
Well done lad. Welcome to Hibs.
SlickShoes
14-08-2022, 06:14 PM
My laddie played youth football from U10 to U18. Whenever a new player joined the squad he was phased in and it usually took half a dozen games for him to knit into the playing style.
We sign a young boy from Leeds and straight away he’s playing SPL. Then he makes a mistake and some fan nies are on his back.
They probably didn’t even notice that he scored his first goal for the club. That must be a great feeling for a young man at a new club.
Well done lad. Welcome to Hibs.
It’s a whole new challenge changing teams, never mind countries, and like you say players deserve time to settle in get used to their new life.
I don’t really think any of our new players are where our problems lie, but we want to have a go at everyone it seems.
Brightside
14-08-2022, 06:18 PM
You also claimed he is the best signing of the summer
Stick by that. Superb young talent.
Paulie Walnuts
14-08-2022, 06:28 PM
It’s a whole new challenge changing teams, never mind countries, and like you say players deserve time to settle in get used to their new life.
I don’t really think any of our new players are where our problems lie, but we want to have a go at everyone it seems.
Does it really seem like that? Because I’ve not seen anybody have a go at Marshall after yesterday. Or Boyle, Youan, McLelland.
The ones who performed poorly and let us down are being criticised. Kenneh is one of they players. There’s nothing untoward about that and if it seems like everyone is being criticised, that’s probably because the majority of the players who played yesterday deserve it.
Hibiza
14-08-2022, 06:34 PM
Team need support,no doubt about that , not just by us though. An experienced , talented player in midfield would be the answer.
Allant1981
14-08-2022, 06:51 PM
Stick by that. Superb young talent.
Unless you have seen him play for leeds youth team theres not a chance you can say he is a superb player based on what he has done for us so far
LaMotta
14-08-2022, 07:40 PM
My laddie played youth football from U10 to U18. Whenever a new player joined the squad he was phased in and it usually took half a dozen games for him to knit into the playing style.
We sign a young boy from Leeds and straight away he’s playing SPL. Then he makes a mistake and some fan nies are on his back.
They probably didn’t even notice that he scored his first goal for the club. That must be a great feeling for a young man at a new club.
Well done lad. Welcome to Hibs.
Calling Hibs fans fan-nies and yams because they see things differently from you. :hilarious Poor stuff.
This message board is all about opinions on the team and the players, it's what makes it interesting. No need for the schoolboy insults.
LaMotta
14-08-2022, 07:42 PM
Does it really seem like that? Because I’ve not seen anybody have a go at Marshall after yesterday. Or Boyle, Youan, McLelland.
The ones who performed poorly and let us down are being criticised. Kenneh is one of they players. There’s nothing untoward about that and if it seems like everyone is being criticised, that’s probably because the majority of the players who played yesterday deserve it.
:top marks
It wasn’t a great pass but Kenneh was asleep waiting for it. And then his pitiful attempt at getting back alongside Hanlon turning in to the invisible man compounded it
Pretty much. A catalogue of three bad mistakes which is unfortunately where we are at right now. Kenneth will hopefully learn from that one.
Tyler Durden
14-08-2022, 08:06 PM
Kenneh made a mistake by not reacting and protecting the ball and then compounded it by not sprinting back.
He likely thought that Hanlon would have the situation under control as most competent centre backs would have done. Go out to meet Nouble and usher him wide or foul him.
Unfortunately the experienced players are regularly letting the team down and therefore the young guys aren’t getting away with making these types of error.
Kenneh still looks a great prospect for me and he’s pretty much the least of our problems IMO. If he makes the same mistake again, then I’ll be concerned
at last 61
15-08-2022, 01:35 PM
Give the guy a break, he would be into training this morning and the team would sit through the game, he will know where he went wrong and hopefully learn from it, good luck 💚💚💚
WhileTheChief..
15-08-2022, 02:09 PM
Calling Hibs fans fan-nies and yams because they see things differently from you. :hilarious Poor stuff.
This message board is all about opinions on the team and the players, it's what makes it interesting. No need for the schoolboy insults.
:top marks
I wish more folk on here would think this way.
Accusing folk of being Yams should see you binned for a period of time.
Greenbeard
15-08-2022, 04:35 PM
My laddie played youth football from U10 to U18. Whenever a new player joined the squad he was phased in and it usually took half a dozen games for him to knit into the playing style.
We sign a young boy from Leeds and straight away he’s playing SPL. Then he makes a mistake and some fan nies are on his back.
They probably didn’t even notice that he scored his first goal for the club. That must be a great feeling for a young man at a new club.
Well done lad. Welcome to Hibs.
You don't need six games to develop a good work ethic and to bust a gut to make up for losing out on a 50/50 ball, no matter whether the pass was poor or not. Kenneh deserved an absolute rocket for his indefensible pitiful primary school work rate tracking back. Or maybe he should have had an arm round his shoulder and some comforting words to say that's ok, we know you're young and need time so we'll excuse your contribution to them scoring. Just run a little bit faster next time, like 60%, instead of 30%.
SlickShoes
15-08-2022, 04:40 PM
You don't need six games to develop a good work ethic and to bust a gut to make up for losing out on a 50/50 ball, no matter whether the pass was poor or not. Kenneh deserved an absolute rocket for his indefensible pitiful primary school work rate tracking back. Or maybe he should have had an arm round his shoulder and some comforting words to say that's ok, we know you're young and need time so we'll excuse your contribution to them scoring. Just run a little bit faster next time, like 60%, instead of 30%.
I mean he went on in the game to score our equaliser so that would suggest whatever was said at half time worked and that he took it on board.
We are just hyper focused on one guys single mistake that it seems to erase anything good he has ever done. It's quite depressing.
Callum_62
15-08-2022, 05:14 PM
So I guess no one else thinks Kenneh was winded hence his slow sprint back?
Looked like someone running with an issue to me
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You don't need six games to develop a good work ethic and to bust a gut to make up for losing out on a 50/50 ball, no matter whether the pass was poor or not. Kenneh deserved an absolute rocket for his indefensible pitiful primary school work rate tracking back. Or maybe he should have had an arm round his shoulder and some comforting words to say that's ok, we know you're young and need time so we'll excuse your contribution to them scoring. Just run a little bit faster next time, like 60%, instead of 30%.
Cajabra gave Kenneh a hospital pass. Not the laddies fault there. The rocket he surely got at half time for not bursting a gut to catch Nouble clearly worked. He played better second half and overall JC rated his performance as OK.
All our players let the side down first half. In his first ever Derby Nohan acquitted himself well. I think that LJ trusts him in that vital DM role which at 19 shows a lot of faith. You don’t play England youth unless you have something about you and having watched his after match interview, I see a mature lad.
Paulie Walnuts
15-08-2022, 05:36 PM
So I guess no one else thinks Kenneh was winded hence his slow sprint back?
Looked like someone running with an issue to me
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Na not for me.
Once the goal goes in he’s remonstrating with another player. If he’d been winded then I’d have expected him to take the opportunity to try and regain his breath.
He doesn’t look like someone winded to me.
Unseen work
15-08-2022, 05:47 PM
https://twitter.com/hibscentral/status/1559129995842289669?s=21&t=O8BhNzNeuf35s688yeWI4Q
Assume this was lifted from PM board?
Personally think he’ll go to St Johnstone
BoomtownHibees
15-08-2022, 06:10 PM
So I guess no one else thinks Kenneh was winded hence his slow sprint back?
Looked like someone running with an issue to me
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Not sure how he would be winded from what happened in the lead up to the goal. No point trying to look for excuses, he just didn’t show the desire to get back imo
Callum_62
15-08-2022, 06:19 PM
Not sure how he would be winded from what happened in the lead up to the goal. No point trying to look for excuses, he just didn’t show the desire to get back imoFrom the collison with the livi midfielder
Not looking for an excuse for it but it looks like somone trying to run with an issue to me
He's not that slow and it doenst look like a normal 'canter'
Anyway might be, might not be
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LaMotta
16-08-2022, 12:18 AM
I mean he went on in the game to score our equaliser so that would suggest whatever was said at half time worked and that he took it on board.
We are just hyper focused on one guys single mistake that it seems to erase anything good he has ever done. It's quite depressing.
It's not just about one mistake though. Some people aren't convinced by him overall based on watching him over 7 competetive games and several friendlies.
Fimgers crossed for more of the good stuff in the weeks ahead.
LaMotta
16-08-2022, 12:23 AM
Cajabra gave Kenneh a hospital pass. Not the laddies fault there. The rocket he surely got at half time for not bursting a gut to catch Nouble clearly worked. He played better second half and overall JC rated his performance as OK.
All our players let the side down first half. In his first ever Derby Nohan acquitted himself well. I think that LJ trusts him in that vital DM role which at 19 shows a lot of faith. You don’t play England youth unless you have something about you and having watched his after match interview, I see a mature lad.
Gael Bigirimana and Adam Eckersley both got England youth caps, as did hundreds of other players that have had undistinguished careers in the English lower leagues. It's not really a barometer as to whether a player will be good enough to be succesful in the Scottish Premiership.
basehibby
16-08-2022, 12:32 AM
https://twitter.com/livifcofficial/status/1558722434307686401?s=21&t=S9gMJaRB5Gzk7Qb8fZsVdQ
I think that goal shows his inexperience. It's a make a foul outside the box and take a card for the team moment and he fails to act. Hopefully he'll learn from that and quickly. He does have talent and showed much better attitude in the 2nd half - seeking to atone for his error and almost succeeding with his goal.
tonyrougier123
16-08-2022, 06:45 AM
He’s got qualities,but he’s got to track back better and be hungrier at winning that ball in midfield when we lose it,the Nouble goal and another chance he should’ve buried both times kenneh looked pedestrian strolling back.
19 though a player in there,hopefully the coaches pointing those two examples out to the lad.
Brightside
16-08-2022, 06:53 AM
He’s had more defensive tackles than anyone in the team. But if he’s going to be made a scapegoat every time he makes a mistake he’d be as best packing up now. Porto can make more mistakes in a single game yet still somehow gets plaudits. I’m not sure why any good young player would want to come to Hibs tbh.
Btw the pass from the left back was much worse. So it’s odd why there isn’t a 5 page thread about him.
Paulie Walnuts
16-08-2022, 06:59 AM
He’s had more defensive tackles than anyone in the team. But if he’s going to be made a scapegoat every time he makes a mistake he’d be as best packing up now. Porto can make more mistakes in a single game yet still somehow gets plaudits. I’m not sure why any good young player would want to come to Hibs tbh.
Btw the pass from the left back was much worse. So it’s odd why there isn’t a 5 page thread about him.
A bad pass happens. Kennehs lack of effort at the goal is a hell of a lot worse than a poor pass.
Hopefully he’s learned he won’t get away with that up here at this level.
B.H.F.C
16-08-2022, 07:02 AM
He’s had more defensive tackles than anyone in the team. But if he’s going to be made a scapegoat every time he makes a mistake he’d be as best packing up now. Porto can make more mistakes in a single game yet still somehow gets plaudits. I’m not sure why any good young player would want to come to Hibs tbh.
Btw the pass from the left back was much worse. So it’s odd why there isn’t a 5 page thread about him.
Why wouldn’t a good young player want to come to Hibs?
He’s gained more experience including in the last 6 weeks than he’d have got anywhere else, playing in front of good supports.
Brightside
16-08-2022, 07:03 AM
Why wouldn’t a good young player want to come to Hibs?
He’s gained more experience including in the last 6 weeks than he’d have got anywhere else, playing in front of good supports.
As long as they don’t read a forum or see social media.
tonyrougier123
16-08-2022, 07:28 AM
As long as they don’t read a forum or see social media.
Quite an introverted way to look at the world.
I think if your bothered by opinions you don’t share either as a contributor or indeed a player “looking in” maybe it’s better to worry less about it rather than hide from it.
This is what forums are for people discussing the team the club the weather,as long as it’s not personal,which I’m sure would be called out,it should be more than acceptable to discuss the performances of players.
Hibs fans do it probably even dulwich hamlet fans debate players pros and cons in the team they support.
It’s well established that being a young player at Hibernian fc is a fantastic place to be in good or bad times.
No need for the dramatics imo.
Hibernian Verse
16-08-2022, 07:33 AM
Quite an introverted way to look at the world.
I think if your bothered by opinions you don’t share either as a contributor or indeed a player “looking in” maybe it’s better to worry less about it rather than hide from it.
This is what forums are for people discussing the team the club the weather,as long as it’s not personal,which I’m sure would be called out,it should be more than acceptable to discuss the performances of players.
Hibs fans do it probably even dulwich hamlet fans debate players pros and cons in the team they support.
It’s well established that being a young player at Hibernian fc is a fantastic place to be in good or bad times.
No need for the dramatics imo.
Unfortunately we see quite often on here that the abuse turns personal with character assassinations on various threads (e.g. Newell thread).
Asking players "looking in" when they are being critiqued to "worry less" is pretty disingenuous. These are young men looking to make it in their chosen career, they'll be affected in various ways depending on their own individual personalities. There is a mental health crisis ongoing for young people in the UK and worry less (or "man up" as it's known) doesn't cut it.
B.H.F.C
16-08-2022, 07:52 AM
As long as they don’t read a forum or see social media.
Sorry, I forgot it’s only Hibs supporters that are ever critical.
On the flip side, a young player could look at the brilliant support they’ve had at the games they’ve played so far and think that looks half decent.
Brightside
16-08-2022, 08:00 AM
Sorry, I forgot it’s only Hibs supporters that are ever critical.
On the flip side, a young player could look at the brilliant support they’ve had at the games they’ve played so far and think that looks half decent.
Oh that’s ok then if everyone is doing it.
tonyrougier123
16-08-2022, 08:01 AM
Unfortunately we see quite often on here that the abuse turns personal with character assassinations on various threads (e.g. Newell thread).
Asking players "looking in" when they are being critiqued to "worry less" is pretty disingenuous. These are young men looking to make it in their chosen career, they'll be affected in various ways depending on their own individual personalities. There is a mental health crisis ongoing for young people in the UK and worry less (or "man up" as it's known) doesn't cut it.
So what are you suggesting then?
Close forums down as discussing what players bring to the team should be disallowed as it may affect mental health?
I think your being a tad over dramatic,I suggested in the same post anything personal or abusive should be removed,but supporters have the right to discuss their team.
It would be a sad state of affairs if people couldn’t discuss their football team in depth and honestly.
Worry less doesn’t equate to man up so that’s nonsense I’m afraid,I’m not suggesting people say what they want and don’t own it.
I’m talking about constructive criticism from forums not being something that footballers should spend time worrying about,I actually think people on here do more worrying for them than they do themselves.it comes from all angles in the game.
Fans,pundits and club officials all discuss it and it’s part of their chosen profession which we pay into and have an input on the subject.
Brightside
16-08-2022, 08:03 AM
So what are you suggesting then?
Close forums down as discussing what players bring to the team should be disallowed as it may affect mental health?
I think your being a tad over dramatic,I suggested in the same post anything personal or abusive should be removed,but supporters have the right to discuss their team.
It would be a sad state of affairs if people couldn’t discuss their football team in depth and honestly.
Worry less doesn’t equate to man up so that’s nonsense I’m afraid,I’m not suggesting people say what they want and don’t own it.
I’m talking about constructive criticism from forums not being something that footballers should spend time worrying about,I actually think people on here do more worrying for them than they do themselves.it comes from all angles in the game.
Fans,pundits and club officials all discuss it and it’s part of their chosen profession which we all pay into in order to have an input.
Oh for a forum of constructive criticism.
Walter
16-08-2022, 08:29 AM
Kenneh will become a great player. Whether the experts on here give him the time to do that is another matter
B.H.F.C
16-08-2022, 08:34 AM
Oh that’s ok then if everyone is doing it.
You’re being daft. Criticism is part and parcel of football. You’ll never miss a chance to have a go at the Hibs support (who have been outstanding so far this season) though.
If a player shows a lack of application to chase back, they’ll get criticised whether they’re 19, 29 or 39. The same player has had plenty praise also.
Smartie
16-08-2022, 08:47 AM
Oh that’s ok then if everyone is doing it.
IMO, anybody in a position to be giving Kenneh good support over the summer would be advising him 2 things -
1. You're a big lad and you're physically ready for first team football. The rough edges on your game are not going to improve training every day and playing for the reserves. Get out there, get to a club where you play every week, it's not going to be a cushy number and you'll take criticism along the way as you make mistakes but you're going to have to learn to deal with it.
2. The internet is full of nutcases - ignore it. There are actually plenty of folk who will be praising you or having decent debate about your abilities but there's nothing to be gained from seeking that out - the nutters shout loudest. Ignore them all, just don't go there.
In my opinion Hibs are as good a place as anywhere for him to be. The clubs with inexhaustible patience and no maniacs online just don't exist. If he wanted to find somewhere where they were in small enough numbers to be almost negligible he'd be having to play at a level way below his abilities and there's no point in that.
Northernhibee
16-08-2022, 09:26 AM
Kenneh will become a great player. Whether the experts on here give him the time to do that is another matter
Yep, he’s already got a lot of standout qualities both physically and mentally and he’s only 19. That’s outstanding.
wookie70
16-08-2022, 09:49 AM
He looks like a player settling in and getting used to the pace of the game. I think he has shown enough to suggest he could be a very good signing. At the moment he looks like he is really having to think about the game and is getting caught out by how quickly he is being closed down and players moving to intercept his passes etc. Defensively he has looked very good and he plays like he is much older than 19 and will only improve with games. Unfortunately, his age and lack of games means we will have lapses like we did against Livi and that will be the case with quite a few of our signings. The signing strategy is a huge gamble and pretty much guarantees we will be in a constant state of flux if successful or stuck with players that haven't hit our level if not. If successful though it does mean we can get slightly better projects every time we sell a player on.
Brightside
16-08-2022, 10:05 AM
You’re being daft. Criticism is part and parcel of football. You’ll never miss a chance to have a go at the Hibs support (who have been outstanding so far this season) though.
If a player shows a lack of application to chase back, they’ll get criticised whether they’re 19, 29 or 39. The same player has had plenty praise also.
I never miss a chance to have a go at the Hibs support? Thats complete poppycock.
B.H.F.C
16-08-2022, 10:47 AM
I never miss a chance to have a go at the Hibs support? Thats complete poppycock.
No it’s not. And your stupid comment about not knowing why a young player would want to come here (despite there being plenty good reasons) backs that up.
sleeping giant
16-08-2022, 11:58 AM
IMO, anybody in a position to be giving Kenneh good support over the summer would be advising him 2 things -
1. You're a big lad and you're physically ready for first team football. The rough edges on your game are not going to improve training every day and playing for the reserves. Get out there, get to a club where you play every week, it's not going to be a cushy number and you'll take criticism along the way as you make mistakes but you're going to have to learn to deal with it.
2. The internet is full of nutcases - ignore it. There are actually plenty of folk who will be praising you or having decent debate about your abilities but there's nothing to be gained from seeking that out - the nutters shout loudest. Ignore them all, just don't go there.
In my opinion Hibs are as good a place as anywhere for him to be. The clubs with inexhaustible patience and no maniacs online just don't exist. If he wanted to find somewhere where they were in small enough numbers to be almost negligible he'd be having to play at a level way below his abilities and there's no point in that.
What a great post.
Especially the nutters bit 😅
LaMotta
16-08-2022, 04:30 PM
Kenneh will become a great player. Whether the experts on here give him the time to do that is another matter
And if he doesn't become a great player will you admit to being not much of an expert yourself? I doubt it.
Whether he becomes a great player will have nothing to do with any posters on here by the way - it's whether he is capable and willing.
Walter
17-08-2022, 09:14 AM
And if he doesn't become a great player will you admit to being not much of an expert yourself? I doubt it.
Whether he becomes a great player will have nothing to do with any posters on here by the way - it's whether he is capable and willing.
What is the time frame for me to carry out sufficient analysis to establish my level of expertise ?
IMO, anybody in a position to be giving Kenneh good support over the summer would be advising him 2 things -
1. You're a big lad and you're physically ready for first team football. The rough edges on your game are not going to improve training every day and playing for the reserves. Get out there, get to a club where you play every week, it's not going to be a cushy number and you'll take criticism along the way as you make mistakes but you're going to have to learn to deal with it.
2. The internet is full of nutcases - ignore it. There are actually plenty of folk who will be praising you or having decent debate about your abilities but there's nothing to be gained from seeking that out - the nutters shout loudest. Ignore them all, just don't go there.
In my opinion Hibs are as good a place as anywhere for him to be. The clubs with inexhaustible patience and no maniacs online just don't exist. If he wanted to find somewhere where they were in small enough numbers to be almost negligible he'd be having to play at a level way below his abilities and there's no point in that.
Nohan if you are reading this thread please take this post as the voice of reason. You are probably the youngest defensive midfielder in the SPL and the first under 20 DM we have had at the club since Lewis Stevenson in 2007. Nobody’s perfect but the manager sees something special in you and so do I.
LaMotta
17-08-2022, 10:11 AM
What is the time frame for me to carry out sufficient analysis to establish my level of expertise ?
Well you are the one who proclaimed with expert authority that he will be a great player, so presumably you had a rough time frame in mind for when that might be measurable?
Walter
17-08-2022, 11:21 AM
Well you are the one who proclaimed with expert authority that he will be a great player, so presumably you had a rough time frame in mind for when that might be measurable?
I am flattered that my 'proclamation' has been assessed as having 'expert authority'. I can't wait to tell the wife, as she has been disputing this for years.
Ich bin expert !
LaMotta
17-08-2022, 11:33 AM
I am flattered that my 'proclamation' has been assessed as having 'expert authority'. I can't wait to tell the wife, as she has been disputing this for years.
Ich bin expert !
Well its the logical conclusion that you view yourself as an expert as you mocked people with a different view of the player than yourself by sarcastically calling them "experts".:wink:
Since452
17-08-2022, 11:34 AM
Nohan if you are reading this thread please take this post as the voice of reason. You are probably the youngest defensive midfielder in the SPL and the first under 20 DM we have had at the club since Lewis Stevenson in 2007. Nobody’s perfect but the manager sees something special in you and so do I.
Seconded :agree:
Unseen work
17-08-2022, 12:11 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/ChViewzDwSJ/igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Amazon Prime have done a series based on Leeds u23’s from last season.
Could involve Kenneh and be an interesting watch
CapitalGreen
02-10-2022, 09:23 AM
It’s now only 1 defeat in 9 games that Kenneh has started (6W 2D 1L).
Currently conceding a goal every 179 minutes while he is on the pitch, compared to every 73 minutes when he is off the pitch.
Small sample size but anyone watching us the last few weeks can surely see we look more solid defensively when he is protecting the defence. He also allows Newell and Campbell more freedom to influence the game further up the pitch when they don’t have as much defensive responsibility.
Kenneh allows the other 2 mids to be more forward thinking and creative, all top teams that play 433 have a DM that does what he does.
JimBHibees
02-10-2022, 09:30 AM
Kenneh allows the other 2 mids to be more forward thinking and creative, all top teams that play 433 have a DM that does what he does.
Get the impression he is coming into his own, good to see.
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