Norwich fans view.

[stuart-farquhar]

On a forum. Hibs are about a Rotherham. And they played their under 23's against our full strength "Rotherham" team really.

Oh well! Lol

[Keith_M]

I'd have to say that's a fairly generous appraisal.

I don't think we're at the level of an English Championship side

[stuart-farquhar]

I'd have to say that's a fairly generous appraisal.

I don't think we're at the level of an English Championship side

I think they meant small club.

[Billy Whizz]

If I’d been a Norwich fan who came upto Edinburgh to watch my team, I’d have seriously hacked off at the team they played

[Hibbyradge]

I think they meant small club.

Not in the context you wrote, imo.

[Wilson]

If I’d been a Norwich fan who came upto Edinburgh to watch my team, I’d have seriously hacked off at the team they played

They should be supportive regardless. Call themselves a twelfth man? LETS BE 'AVIN YOOOUUUU!

[hibby rae]

If I’d been a Norwich fan who came upto Edinburgh to watch my team, I’d have seriously hacked off at the team they played

They played at Parkhead yesterday as well.

Which also means this was a pretty pointless exercise for us.

[1875Sean]

I'd have to say that's a fairly generous appraisal.

I don't think we're at the level of an English Championship side

I’d say we are, loads of decent teams in the English Championship but I’d back us against teams like Wigan, Preston, Rotherham etc, We are certainly better than League 1

[hibby rae]

I think they meant small club.

Tbf their stadium only takes just over 5k than us.

What you see with a team like Norwich, or Rotherham, is skewed reality of club size. Which is purely down to the money in English football. Which can also skew the reality of quality in teams down south.

[stuart-farquhar]

Not in the context you wrote, imo.

Opinions Mr K. I differ. And can draw my own inferences.

[kentao]

On a forum. Hibs are about a Rotherham. And they played their under 23's against our full strength "Rotherham" team really.

Oh well! Lol

What version of their team did we play with the development squad that scudded them 5 -1? Must have been the worst visit to Scotland as a Norwich fan, travelling all that way here getting turned over by Hibs and Celtic.

[JamesHFC]

Two defeats in two days for them in Scotland with zero goals scored. Two league cups in their clubs history. Our development team beat theirs 8-0 and our second/third string team beat them today. 🙂

[Since452]

On a forum. Hibs are about a Rotherham. And they played their under 23's against our full strength "Rotherham" team really.

Oh well! Lol

We played our reserves 2nd half. Pretty equal age comparison I'd say. Far from our strongest team.

[Jones28]

We played our reserves 2nd half. Pretty equal age comparison I'd say. Far from our strongest team.

I’d like to see a comparison but I think our second half team would have an average age of about 19 if it wasn’t for McGregor.

[LewysGot2]

Tbf their stadium only takes just over 5k than us.

What you see with a team like Norwich, or Rotherham, is skewed reality of club size. Which is purely down to the money in English football. Which can also skew the reality of quality in teams down south.

Misplaced sense of stature.

Suppose we shouldn’t be too hard on them though as they’re supporting their local team.

The chants of “this is a loibree” were amusing. They maybe hadn’t realised that they weren’t box office enough for folk. :wink:

[uwxm07]

Two defeats in two days for them in Scotland with zero goals scored. Two league cups in their clubs history. Our development team beat theirs 8-0 and our second/third string team beat them today. 🙂

Only one shot in two games ,according to their fans post match !

[NAE NOOKIE]

Is anybody really bothered about English fans opinions any more, invariably negative / dismissive. Though I do presume that was a pretty weak Norwich side, at least I hope it was for their sake, they weren't exactly a bother for a mix and match Hibs team that were hardly playing at 100% themselves from what I saw today.

[Billy Whizz]

The size of their club is determined by the hefty TV Deal, they get. Quite scary really



2021 2020
Turnover £57,179M £119,352M
Broadcasting £47,852M £90,219M

82% of turnover in 2021 (Covid) came from TV money

[Jones28]

English football fans views of Scottish football will never change: farmers league, diddy league, tinpot, etc etc.

[LewysGot2]

We played our reserves 2nd half. Pretty equal age comparison I'd say. Far from our strongest team.

A reserve keeper as our international one is injured.
A young fringe player midfielder at LB because our first choice ones are injured or not through customs
A pairing at CB that is incredibly young and both right sided - not the first choice pairing
A 2nd choice RB as our first choice is injured
A makeshift midfield due to injury
A front three that will also not play together too often because…yep, our international striker and our new striker are injured or not through customs yet.


What honestly did they think was in front of them. McIntyre is about 5 ft 4 and 7 stone :rolleyes::greengrin

[Wilson]

English football fans views of Scottish football will never change: farmers league, diddy league, tinpot, etc etc.

They seem to know their stuff.

[SHODAN]

Last major trophy was in 1985. Small club.

[Gloucester Hibs]

English football fans views of Scottish football will never change: farmers league, diddy league, tinpot, etc etc.

Spot on. Ignorance from supporters who aspire to see their team play In the tourist league - the footballing equivalent of what WWE is to combat sports.

[Baader]

Don't mind Norwich as known a few fans, seem a decent club.

Bit rich though when you have only ever won 2 league cups in your 120 year history!

The most recent win it was still sponsored by Milk!

[Since452]

I know nothing about Norwich other than Grant Holt played for them and our patched up makeshift first team and our development team both scudded them in the space of a week.

Something tells me they might avoid us for a while.

[Bostonhibby]

Don't mind Norwich as known a few fans, seem a decent club.

Bit rich though when you have only ever won 2 league cups in your 120 year history!Am friends with one, been to Carrow road a few times, great fans, very welcoming, great little ground and atmosphere.

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[HendoDelivered]

Last major trophy was in 1985. Small club.

:agree:

I seen Hibs fans bickering on Twitter yesterday (or the day before) about who the bigger club was out of Hibs and Norwich. Apparently because Norwich have more money than us they are bigger, and history means nothing?

[Sir David Gray]

I’d like to see a comparison but I think our second half team would have an average age of about 19 if it wasn’t for McGregor.

Almost 21 without McGregor.

[Smartie]

In fairness to our carrot crunching friends, even our reserves are better than Hibs.

[Iain G]

They played at Parkhead yesterday as well.

Which also means this was a pretty pointless exercise for us.

We needed more game time in the players so hardly a pointless exercise? And a win will be good for confidence

[Allant1981]

We needed more game time in the players so hardly a pointless exercise? And a win will be good for confidence

Yip thats a couple of times ive seen someone say it was pointless, we had no game scheduled, norwich sent a team so gave our players more game time, was definitely not pointless

[hibby rae]

We needed more game time in the players so hardly a pointless exercise? And a win will be good for confidence

I meant a pointless exercise as for a paid game for the fans. Was marketed as the big pre-season game, but nothing to get excited about as they were always going to put out a 2nd team.

If we even compare to other recent pre-season games against say Arsenal or Newcastle, granted I'd say Arsenal was a bit of a coup. But this was never going to be anything to get excited about.

[SteveHFC]

Average club who will end up getting promoted back to the premier league this season again before getting relegated once again the following season.

[hibby rae]

:agree:

I seen Hibs fans bickering on Twitter yesterday (or the day before) about who the bigger club was out of Hibs and Norwich. Apparently because Norwich have more money than us they are bigger, and history means nothing?

They probably have a slightly bigger fanbase, but factor in they are in a country with 10 times the population, god knows what the difference is in exposure between the leagues they play in/sometimes play in, and don't share a direct rival for support in the same urban area.

[Pretty Boy]

I was at a game with a Norwich fan. He was very complimentary about us.

Was also speaking to 2 Stoke fans in the pub last night who were complimentary about Hearts.

Plenty English football fans know the game, know the circumstances and appreciate what teams like ourselves and Hearts do. The 'my nan could play in the league' loudmouths on Facebook aren't representative imo.

[BILLYHIBS]

From a Hibs fans point of view Hibs are the biggest club

I have asked five independent Hibs fans who the biggest club is Hibernian or Norwich and they all say Hibs

Today’s result proves it conclusively 😀

So there we are

[SHODAN]

Any time you see the fans of one of these English clubs coming out with the pub league pish, presumably as we have the affront to be interested in one of their players, you can always comfort yourself by checking when they last won a major trophy. It's usually last century. Or never.

[LewysGot2]

Any time you see the fans of one of these English clubs coming out with the pub league pish, presumably as we have the affront to be interested in one of their players, you can always comfort yourself by checking when they last won a major trophy. It's usually last century. Or never.

If you look at Norwich in terms of their local derby and comparator club, Ipswich Town, they lose that there, too. Although I'm sure they'll argue that over the last couple of decades they are relatively more successful. Will they ever have European glory? Chances are, no.

[Not In The Know]

I meant a pointless exercise as for a paid game for the fans. Was marketed as the big pre-season game, but nothing to get excited about as they were always going to put out a 2nd team.

If we even compare to other recent pre-season games against say Arsenal or Newcastle, granted I'd say Arsenal was a bit of a coup. But this was never going to be anything to get excited about.


give it a rest Ffs. I took my kid, cost us £15 and it was a nice warm day and really enjoyed it. ER was looking great with the recent post season upgrades.

[bingo70]

Any time you see the fans of one of these English clubs coming out with the pub league pish, presumably as we have the affront to be interested in one of their players, you can always comfort yourself by checking when they last won a major trophy. It's usually last century. Or never.

Have Norwich ever won a trophy other than a promotion?

[He's here!]

Norwich have a significantly bigger support than us, or at least a support which turns up in far greater numbers than Hibs fans. They averaged well over 25,000 for their home games last season despite getting relegated and were averaging similar numbers in the Championship prior to that. On that basis they're a bigger club than Hibs, and indeed all Scottish clubs bar the big two. The fact they've 'only' won two League Cups hardly makes them small time. Plenty of big English clubs whose trophy haul is paltry.

[SChibs]

Norwich have a significantly bigger support than us, or at least a support which turns up in far greater numbers than Hibs fans. They averaged well over 25,000 for their home games last season despite getting relegated and were averaging similar numbers in the Championship prior to that. On that basis they're a bigger club than Hibs, and indeed all Scottish clubs bar the big two. The fact they've 'only' won two League Cups hardly makes them small time. Plenty of big English clubs whose trophy haul is paltry.

I agree regarding the cups. There's double the ammount of league teams in England but there's still only 3 major trophies so it's gonna be much harder for mid level teams to win them than up here

[He's here!]

If you look at Norwich in terms of their local derby and comparator club, Ipswich Town, they lose that there, too. Although I'm sure they'll argue that over the last couple of decades they are relatively more successful. Will they ever have European glory? Chances are, no.

I remember them knocking Bayern Munich out of the Uefa Cup the season after they'd finished third in the first ever Premier League circa 1993. In fact IIRC they were actually in with a shout of being champions of England that year. Fair to suggest that's more than Hibs have achieved in the league or in Europe since the 1970s?

[California-Hibs]

All they find themselves in is a league with more money. They are the equivalent of St Johnstone in our league. Hibs are a much bigger club than Norwich. Won more, more European appearances, basically just far more history, on top of having I'd argue a larger fans base at large.

And I mean the fact is our patched up 1st half team was too much for them and then when they brought on the likes of Gunn, Krul, Pukki, Hernandez, McLean etc We in turn brought on the kids and had our 2nd/3rd team out and were comfortable and easily the team looking most likely to score again.

Norwich are literally nobodies and trying to spout rubbish about us being like Rotherham after they LOST to us and not only that but they played absolutely pish and could have lost by more, id not be running my mouth off if I was a Norwich fan right now 🤣

[judas]

Spot on. Ignorance from supporters who aspire to see their team play In the tourist league - the footballing equivalent of what WWE is to combat sports.

The Tourist League. I like that and it’s how I’m going to refer to that league going forward.

[Since452]

Norwich have a significantly bigger support than us, or at least a support which turns up in far greater numbers than Hibs fans. They averaged well over 25,000 for their home games last season despite getting relegated and were averaging similar numbers in the Championship prior to that. On that basis they're a bigger club than Hibs, and indeed all Scottish clubs bar the big two. The fact they've 'only' won two League Cups hardly makes them small time. Plenty of big English clubs whose trophy haul is paltry.

To be fair, if SKY were ploughing billions into Scottish football and there were world class players visiting Easter Road regularly I'm confident we'd average 20k and more if the stadium was bigger. We averaged 17/18k watching dross like Hamilton Accies with Dougie Imrie visiting.

[LewysGot2]

I remember them knocking Bayern Munich out of the Uefa Cup the season after they'd finished third in the first ever Premier League circa 1993. In fact IIRC they were actually in with a shout of being champions of England that year. Fair to suggest that's more than Hibs have achieved in the league or in Europe since the 1970s?

The comparison was with Ipswich- their local rivals - who have been relatively in the doldrums recently but have won a European trophy. And more trophies full stop than Norwich.

Would Ipswich say they were bigger? I reckon they definitely would.

[judas]

From a Hibs fans point of view Hibs are the biggest club

I have asked five independent Hibs fans who the biggest club is Hibernian or Norwich and they all say Hibs

Today’s result proves it conclusively 😀

So there we are

No offence to you because you are responding to another poster.

I have come to think that those who partake in the ‘who’s the biggest’ debate are misguided.

If you can’t beat them join them, I guess.

I would wager that I have a bigger ***** than the average Norwich fan.

[judas]

To be fair, if SKY were ploughing billions into Scottish football and there were world class players visiting Easter Road regularly I'm confident we'd average 20k and more if the stadium was bigger. We averaged 17/18k watching dross like Hamilton Accies with Dougie Imrie visiting.

This. All day long.

[Bobby's Cinema]

In terms of a support they were very quiet.

If 500 - 1000 Hibby's were down in Norwich for the weekend we'd be loud and partying that's for sure. Been too long for us without a trip like that.

[BILLYHIBS]

In terms of a support they were very quiet.

If 500 - 1000 Hibby's were down in Norwich for the weekend we'd be loud and partying that's for sure. Been too long for us without a trip like that.

This. All day long

Let’s be hav’in you !

[Keith_M]

Is anybody really bothered about English fans opinions any more, invariably negative / dismissive. Though I do presume that was a pretty weak Norwich side, at least I hope it was for their sake, they weren't exactly a bother for a mix and match Hibs team that were hardly playing at 100% themselves from what I saw today.


It was only the viewpoint of one or two fans, so I'd hardly think it's representative of their support.

FWIW, the Canaries that did come up for today's game were a decent bunch...

...though I'm still a bit confused about the 'We Shoot Burglars' song :greengrin

[I'm_cabbaged]

**** Norwich

[LewysGot2]

It was only the viewpoint of one or two fans, so I'd hardly think it's representative of their support.

FWIW, the Canaries that did come up for today's game were a decent bunch...

...though I'm still a bit confused about the 'We Shoot Burglars' song :greengrin

was there not a guy in Norfolk shoot a burglar a few years back? Tony Martin? Might be totally unrelated :greengrin

[Keith_M]

was there not a guy in Norfolk shoot a burglar a few years back? Tony Martin? Might be totally unrelated :greengrin


Ah, that makes sense.


Well it doesn't really, but maybe a bit more than it did five minutes ago.

:greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

was there not a guy in Norfolk shoot a burglar a few years back? Tony Martin? Might be totally unrelated :greengrinThink it does relate to that.

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[hibby rae]

give it a rest Ffs. I took my kid, cost us £15 and it was a nice warm day and really enjoyed it. ER was looking great with the recent post season upgrades.

Great, I'm glad you had a good day. But that doesn't make my point any less relevant.

[Cammy]

Great, I'm glad you had a good day. But that doesn't make my point any less relevant.

It kind of does. I also enjoyed the match with my two kids, hibs got more game time into first team players and we all got a look at some of the development team talent.

[hibby rae]

It kind of does. I also enjoyed the match with my two kids, hibs got more game time into first team players and we all got a look at some of the development team talent.

Well I disagree, maybe the point I've made is being misunderstood.

[007]

Well I disagree, maybe the point I've made is being misunderstood.

I must be another one that's misunderstood it. You've said today's match was a pointless excercise but I fail to see why. Just like any pre-season friendly it's about getting players game time and match fitness as well as getting used to playing with each other and helping the manager decide on his starting 11 for next weekend. What's pointless about that?

[uwxm07]

I first went to ER in 1966 , been a season ticket holder or 90% attendee 40 of the intervening years. Watched Norwich win against Ipswich on a visit to my uncles house in the early 70s and still have a metal Norwich badge on my Hibs scarf .
First Time I saw them play a “ Derby” 😂 today.
I have also “ invested “ a considerable amount in “ doubles” many weekends over the years .
No one ever called me a glory hunter !

[hibby rae]

I must be another one that's misunderstood it. You've said today's match was a pointless excercise but I fail to see why. Just like any pre-season friendly it's about getting players game time and match fitness as well as getting used to playing with each other and helping the manager decide on his starting 11 for next weekend. What's pointless about that?

Well, the players and the manager have had 6 games already for game time and getting the team right (4 of them competitive fixtures), so I don't imagine there was much value from a non-competitive match against a second string Championship side, especially if we're talking about selecting the right team. But that wasn't the point I was making.

My point was to do with it being the marquee pre-season game, but getting a team to play us who were also playing the day before at Parkhead was a poor fixture to book, as we were always only going to be playing against their second team.

Especially when compared to previous games we've managed to get in recent years, and those games were far more competitive in nature and a bigger test for our players in their preparations. They were also a bigger draw for fans, not obviously if the team had been performing better of late we may have had a bigger attendance, but different opponents would have also provided that, and it's not unrealistic to suggest we could have got opponents like we have before.

This is in turn explains why there wasn't much of an atmosphere, and why some Norwich supporters may have noticed that and sang about it.

It's great folk went with their kids and enjoyed themselves, but that doesn't devalue my argument.

[Mcbizz1998]

Hibs are a bigger club than Norwich ffs. So are hearts and the sheep.

Norwich [emoji2357] , give me a break [emoji23]

[The Baldmans Comb]

It was a fine day and both Hibs teams played well and I liked the decision of the manager to play the full development squad 2nd half as that is so beneficial to their development playing in front of a big home crowd against reasonable opposition.

It never occurs to me to care whatsoever about what English fans think of Hibs on their visits or who is the bigger club.🤔

[The_Exile]

Norfolking clue. Know a couple of Norwich fans, nice lads and know their football. Obviously the club will have an extra 2 or 3 Sky zeroes in their bank account as is the case with the vast majority of clubs down there, and most piss it up the wall and end up being the very definition of yo-yo clubs. All this "x club is bigger than y club" is a load of old bollocks.

[Bristolhibby]

To be fair, if SKY were ploughing billions into Scottish football and there were world class players visiting Easter Road regularly I'm confident we'd average 20k and more if the stadium was bigger. We averaged 17/18k watching dross like Hamilton Accies with Dougie Imrie visiting.

I also remember reading that per capita Scotland has the highest football attendances in the world.

England is ten times the size of Scotland. By that logic English teams should be pulling in 130,000 fans every weekend to make parity with Acottiah clubs.

They just happen to have money. Remember walking through the carpark at Bolton a few years ago and seeing all the super cars. It’s then I knew the game was tragically skewed. No offence to Bolton players, but their club is from a crappy mill town and there were Lambos, Ferraris and Hummers in the carpark.

J

[cabbageandribs1875]

Misplaced sense of stature.

Suppose we shouldn’t be too hard on them though as they’re supporting their local team.

The chants of “this is a loibree” were amusing. They maybe hadn’t realised that they weren’t box office enough for folk. :wink:



they were maybe thinking of Home

[Pagan Hibernia]

Tbf their stadium only takes just over 5k than us.

What you see with a team like Norwich, or Rotherham, is skewed reality of club size. Which is purely down to the money in English football. Which can also skew the reality of quality in teams down south.

correct. Without going all Craig Levein, Hibs ‘natural’ level in Scotland is top 5 or 6 , occasional trophies, and a run in Europe every few years. We don’t always get that but certainly if tv money was a thing up here that’s where we’d be at.

Norwich city’s natural level is English championship, with the occasional season in the top flight, and frankly no silverware.

we’re from the Scottish capital and one of the most stunningly beautiful cities in the world. They’re from Norwich. A dull English backwater most famous for Alan Partridge.

i don’t mind the patter from Scottish clubs… but getting trolled by these nobodys? Not having it.

[Alfred E Newman]

correct. Without going all Craig Levein, Hibs ‘natural’ level in Scotland is top 5 or 6 , occasional trophies, and a run in Europe every few years. We don’t always get that but certainly if tv money was a thing up here that’s where we’d be at.

Norwich city’s natural level is English championship, with the occasional season in the top flight, and frankly no silverware.

we’re from the Scottish capital and one of the most stunningly beautiful cities in the world. They’re from Norwich. A dull English backwater most famous for Alan Partridge.

i don’t mind the patter from Scottish clubs… but getting trolled by these nobodys? Not having it.
In relative terms we still have enough financial clout to be consistent top 5 or six up here.
Money is no guarantee of success.

[WestStandWillie]

Rather be a "Rotherham" than a yo-yo club.

[Big_Franck]

Rather be a "Rotherham" than a yo-yo club.

Rotherham are a yo-yo club :greengrin

[He's here!]

To be fair, if SKY were ploughing billions into Scottish football and there were world class players visiting Easter Road regularly I'm confident we'd average 20k and more if the stadium was bigger. We averaged 17/18k watching dross like Hamilton Accies with Dougie Imrie visiting.

I had a look at Norwich's attendances when they were in League One a few years back and they were averaging 25k even then. It's hard to imagine many world class players visiting Carrow Road regularly in that league.

Bottom line, they have consistently attracted far bigger average crowds than Hibs for a long number of years. They obviously enjoy the advantage of being a one-city team (think local rivals Ipswich are circa 40 miles away) but Norwich ain't that big a place (well under half the population of Edinburgh) so they simply seem to have a more loyal and bigger regular fan turnout than Hibs (and indeed any club in Scotland bar the big two).

[Lago]

correct. Without going all Craig Levein, Hibs ‘natural’ level in Scotland is top 5 or 6 , occasional trophies, and a run in Europe every few years. We don’t always get that but certainly if tv money was a thing up here that’s where we’d be at.

Norwich city’s natural level is English championship, with the occasional season in the top flight, and frankly no silverware.

we’re from the Scottish capital and one of the most stunningly beautiful cities in the world. They’re from Norwich. A dull English backwater most famous for Alan Partridge.

i don’t mind the patter from Scottish clubs… but getting trolled by these nobodys? Not having it.
Norwich, dull, backwater, nope not in the least, actually an attractive part of the country.

[Waxy]

Where are ya?
Letsbe avinya

[hibbyfraelibby]

If I were a Norwich fan I'd be concerned by their trip to Scotland and the outcome.

By all accounds well beaten and lucky not to be humped by Sellick.

Beaten in the 1st half by a depleted misfiring Hibernian side bereft of 4 Scotland capped players who couldn't even outmuscle a bunch of 18 year old laddies led by an aging centre half twice their age in the 2nd half...and lets not mention the BCD humping the got.

The reason for them being relegated is obvious and they should have no reason for optimism that they'll bounce back even with the equivalent of 10 years of Hibs turnover as a parachute payment.

Gett8ng beat by "Rotherham level" teams and their youths does not auger well for their future.

[hibbyfraelibby]

I had a look at Norwich's attendances when they were in League One a few years back and they were averaging 25k even then. It's hard to imagine many world class players visiting Carrow Road regularly in that league.

Bottom line, they have consistently attracted far bigger average crowds than Hibs for a long number of years. They obviously enjoy the advantage of being a one-city team (think local rivals Ipswich are circa 40 miles away) but Norwich ain't that big a place (well under half the population of Edinburgh) so they simply seem to have a more loyal and bigger regular fan turnout than Hibs (and indeed any club in Scotland bar the big two).

Norwich don't have the misfortune of having to compete with the glory hunting fans of the bigot sisters in their midst, nor another comparable level team in the same city.

[MWHIBBIES]

If I were a Norwich fan I'd be concerned by their trip to Scotland and the outcome.

By all accounds well beaten and lucky not to be humped by Sellick.

Beaten in the 1st half by a depleted misfiring Hibernian side bereft of 4 Scotland capped players who couldn't even outmuscle a bunch of 18 year old laddies led by an aging centre half twice their age in the 2nd half...and lets not mention the BCD humping the got.

The reason for them being relegated is obvious and they should have no reason for optimism that they'll bpunce back even with the equivalent of 10 years of Hibs turnover as a parachute payment.

Gettung beat by "Rotherham level" teams and their youths does not auger well for their future.

They will be there or there abouts for sure. Very well run club who always get back up. Wouldn't read anything into yesterday

[Since90+2]

Seem like a decent club with decent set of fans.

Are people really that precious they get offended by 1 person on a Norwich forum saying we are about Rotherham level? FWIW I would agree the level of our team at the moment is probably about that .

[Since90+2]

Norwich don't have the misfortune of having to compete with the glory hunting fans of the bigot sisters in their midst, nor another comparable level team in the same city.

They'll be competing with gloryhunting fans of Man Utd, Liverpool ect tho, and has been pointed out they are a one city team but their population is about half of Edinburgh, so that levels that playing field.

[Dashing Bob S]

A lot of English Mickey Mouse clubs are inflated by TV money and the subsequent indulgence of dodgy corporate/overseas owners. It begets a ludicrously supremacist attitude in some of their supporters. My only word in response would be: Norwich.

[Dashing Bob S]

I had a look at Norwich's attendances when they were in League One a few years back and they were averaging 25k even then. It's hard to imagine many world class players visiting Carrow Road regularly in that league.

Bottom line, they have consistently attracted far bigger average crowds than Hibs for a long number of years. They obviously enjoy the advantage of being a one-city team (think local rivals Ipswich are circa 40 miles away) but Norwich ain't that big a place (well under half the population of Edinburgh) so they simply seem to have a more loyal and bigger regular fan turnout than Hibs (and indeed any club in Scotland bar the big two).

How many do you think Hibs would attract if we were playing in the English Premiership?

How many would Norwich or Bournemouth attract if they were playing Ross County, Hearts, St Johnstone, St Mirren every week?

Like it loathe it, most football supporters are glory hunters to a greater or lesser extent.

[Keith_M]

Seem like a decent club with decent set of fans.

Are people really that precious they get offended by 1 person on a Norwich forum saying we are about Rotherham level? FWIW I would agree the level of our team at the moment is probably about that .



Exactly this.

I like Norwich, I enjoyed a good bit of banter before and after the game with their Fans and I can only wish them well in the coming season.


I think some folk are seriously overreacting to one or two comments on a Fan website.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Seem like a decent club with decent set of fans.

Are people really that precious they get offended by 1 person on a Norwich forum saying we are about Rotherham level? FWIW I would agree the level of our team at the moment is probably about that .

In spite of my previous post I actually quite like Norwich, they seem a pretty inoffensive club and I would agree that they seem to have a loyal support, far better at sticking with their club in numbers when they go down than fans of some of the other yoyo clubs like Fulham or Watford for example. But when you think about it they have an absolutely ideal scenario for a pro club .... practically a whole county to themselves with a population of near on a million people and a derby rival ( at least in their eyes ) who they don't even have to compete with for support and far enough from London and the NW of England not to lose too much support to glory hunting .... you couldn't put a club in a better position if it was in your control to do so.

But I recall being told in no uncertain terms that AFC Bournemouth were a bigger club than Hibs on their fans forum when we had that American guy on loan from them and I seem to recall Jason Cummings laughing at an interviewer after the Shrewsbury Town v Liverpool cup game he scored in when it was suggested to him, a guy who had played in cup finals and the Edinburgh and Glasgow derbies, that he wouldn't have experienced an atmosphere like that before.

[Since90+2]

How many do you think Hibs would attract if we were playing in the English Premiership?

How many would Norwich or Bournemouth attract if they were playing Ross County, Hearts, St Johnstone, St Mirren every week?

Like it loathe it, most football supporters are glory hunters to a greater or lesser extent.

If Hibs played in League 1 in England we wouldn't be getting 25k, which Norwich did.

[Ringothedog]

I had a look at Norwich's attendances when they were in League One a few years back and they were averaging 25k even then. It's hard to imagine many world class players visiting Carrow Road regularly in that league.

Bottom line, they have consistently attracted far bigger average crowds than Hibs for a long number of years. They obviously enjoy the advantage of being a one-city team (think local rivals Ipswich are circa 40 miles away) but Norwich ain't that big a place (well under half the population of Edinburgh) so they simply seem to have a more loyal and bigger regular fan turnout than Hibs (and indeed any club in Scotland bar the big two).

Norwich are the only major team in Norfolk which has a population of over 900k . That is the same as the Lothians, their support is what you would expect for a club in that situation

[hibbyfraelibby]

Seem like a decent club with decent set of fans.

Are people really that precious they get offended by 1 person on a Norwich forum saying we are about Rotherham level? FWIW I would agree the level of our team at the moment is probably about that .

If we are Rotherham level then they are Forest Green given the evidence of the last week😉

[He's here!]

How many do you think Hibs would attract if we were playing in the English Premiership?

How many would Norwich or Bournemouth attract if they were playing Ross County, Hearts, St Johnstone, St Mirren every week?

Like it loathe it, most football supporters are glory hunters to a greater or lesser extent.

As I pointed out they were attracting 25k average crowds in the third tier of English football. Hardly the behaviour of glory hunters. I get the impression they are simply a loyal bunch of fans who consistently turn out in far bigger numbers to watch their team at home than Hibs fans do.

I'd actually agree that on current evidence we'd be 'a Rotherham' in English football.

[Since90+2]

If we are Rotherham level then they are Forest Green given the evidence of the last week😉

If we both played our full strength teams they'd be favourites to beat us. Let's not kid ourselves otherwise.

[Ray_]

I had a look at Norwich's attendances when they were in League One a few years back and they were averaging 25k even then. It's hard to imagine many world class players visiting Carrow Road regularly in that league.

Bottom line, they have consistently attracted far bigger average crowds than Hibs for a long number of years. They obviously enjoy the advantage of being a one-city team (think local rivals Ipswich are circa 40 miles away) but Norwich ain't that big a place (well under half the population of Edinburgh) so they simply seem to have a more loyal and bigger regular fan turnout than Hibs (and indeed any club in Scotland bar the big two).
Norwich is the biggest club by some distance in Norfolk, with Ipswich [suffolk] & Colchester [Essex], the closest local rivals. Norfolk's population is close to seven figures.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Anyway. It was a friendly, we won and they lost. Neither club achieved anything.

they’ll be there or thereabouts for promotion this season and if they do make it they’ll be there or thereabouts for relegation the following year.

we could either be there or thereabouts for Europe or for relegation this season but I’m going with the former.