Work Permits

[yerauldda]

Looks like Aberdeens new signings, Luis Duk and Miovski, may be involved tomorrow and at the weekend.

I know these things are done on a case by case basis but I wonder what the hold up is with Jair Tavares and Elie Youan?

[18Craig75]

Aberdeen striker has played internationally for Cape Verde I believe.

[Sioux]

Looks like Aberdeens new signings, Luis Duk and Miovski, may be involved tomorrow and at the weekend.

I know these things are done on a case by case basis but I wonder what the hold up is with Jair Tavares and Elie Youan?

Civil Servants, probably debating the merits between themselves, or applying the legislation to specific facts.

Are you suggesting it's the club's fault?

[Diclonius]

It's extremely frustrating but not a lot the club can do about it.

[CapitalGreen]

Looks like Aberdeens new signings, Luis Duk and Miovski, may be involved tomorrow and at the weekend.

I know these things are done on a case by case basis but I wonder what the hold up is with Jair Tavares and Elie Youan?

The home office are advising the average wait time is currently 6 weeks so those we have received have actually been quicker than average.

[yerauldda]

Civil Servants, probably debating the merits between themselves, or applying the legislation to specific facts.

Are you suggesting it's the club's fault?

Not at all. I don’t for a second believe the club aren’t doing all they can to expedite the process, just curious as to why there’s just such a difference in speed of the application process for signings from pretty similar backgrounds.

[flash]

Aberdeen striker has played internationally for Cape Verde I believe.

Their striker is a North Macedonian international but his hasn't come through fast.
It all seems very random.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Looks like Aberdeens new signings, Luis Duk and Miovski, may be involved tomorrow and at the weekend.

I know these things are done on a case by case basis but I wonder what the hold up is with Jair Tavares and Elie Youan?
Pretti Evil Patel...

[JimBHibees]

The home office are advising the average wait time is currently 6 weeks so those we have received have actually been quicker than average.

I thought there was a fast track for football clubs.

[CapitalGreen]

I thought there was a fast track for football clubs.

There usually is but the Government have temporarily suspended both the priority and super priority options.

[JimBHibees]

There usually is but the Government have temporarily suspended both the priority and super priority options.

Oh great.

[BoomtownHibees]

Jair available tomorrow

[LewysGot2]

Yeah, Hibs just announced Tavares is cleared

[green day]

https://twitter.com/p_mcpartlin/status/1549459060357038081?t=ZQY1VVmfR0odDF1EZ1W5kw&s=19

And sounds like the others close behind.

[JohnM1875]

Jair available tomorrow

Yaaassssssss!!

[Unseen work]

Brilliant news on Tavares, needs to start to get upto speed.

[Tambo]

One down two to go.

[yerauldda]

Great news. Can’t wait to see the new boys.

[SteveHFC]

:hyper :hyper

[Ozyhibby]

Not wanting to get into the permit chat, they’ll come when they come but I’m a bit curious how they can play development games and train without the permit? Sure it’s been asked already.


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[Unseen work]

Not wanting to get into the permit chat, they’ll come when they come but I’m a bit curious how they can play development games and train without the permit? Sure it’s been asked already.


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I’m the same.

Don’t get how the can play for the 23s but can’t play in competitive games or even the friendly against norwich without one?

Surely work permits relate to everything within their job.

[chippy]

The guys are allowed to train so it’s just a bit if a stretch to say these closed door games are unofficial. Not a cup or league game and not played at an elite stadium with paying spectators . The Norwich game is an official friendly with paying spectators

[cameronw-hfc]

Pretty sure you can register a trialist for friendlies without a work permit.

[number9dream]

The Home Office being swamped with applications from Ukraine has a lot to do with the hold ups but it’s interesting to note no delays for Rangers and Celtic signings. Bernabei, not an Argentina international, agreed Celtic move 15 days after we signed Tavares and yet he’s already played a few games.

*there is a points system, which will favour bigger clubs (caps at youth level, quality of selling club etc.

[CapitalGreen]

The Home Office being swamped with applications from Ukraine has a lot to do with the hold ups but it’s interesting to note no delays for Rangers and Celtic signings. Bernabei, not an Argentina international, agreed Celtic move 15 days after we signed Tavares and yet he’s already played a few games.

There’s a lot more factors than just international caps that go into calculating the number of points an applicant has. Alexandro Bernabei played 6 games in the Copa Sudamerica (South America Europa League equivalent) last year which is worth a lot of points.

He played 95% of Lanus’s minutes in the competition which is worth 10 of the 15 points required plus another 6 points because his team progressed through the group stage. So a total of 16 for that alone would entitle him to an easy pass.

[number9dream]

There’s a lot more factors than just international caps that go into calculating the number of points an applicant has. Alexandro Bernabei played 6 games in the Copa Sudamerica (South America Europa League equivalent) last year which is worth a lot of points.

He played 95% of Lanus’s minutes in the competition which is worth 10 of the 15 points required plus another 6 points because his team progressed through the group stage. So a total of 16 for that alone would entitle him to an easy pass.

Nice one… Hopefully Cabraja has racked up some useful points from playing in the group stage of the Europa League last season.

[Ringothedog]

The guys are allowed to train so it’s just a bit if a stretch to say these closed door games are unofficial. Not a cup or league game and not played at an elite stadium with paying spectators . The Norwich game is an official friendly with paying spectators

How did Hearts play their Aussie as a trialist against Crawley?

[SaulGoodman]

How did Hearts play their Aussie as a trialist against Crawley?

Was at tynecastle so it wasn’t an elite stadium

[overdrive]

Why are they allowed to train and play closed door matches without a permit? Are they not getting paid? I’m an accountant. Let’s say I was French and I get offered a job in the UK. Am I going to be allowed into the country, turn up to my employer’s office and take part in team meetings whilst I wait for my permit just so long as I don’t do any spreadsheet crunching in the meantime? Don’t think so.

Maybe I’m wrong but I just don’t get it. Training, especially, is work to me.

[Ringothedog]

Was at tynecastle so it wasn’t an elite stadium

Good point well made

[flash]

Was at tynecastle so it wasn’t an elite stadium

This is the kind of petty childishness we don't see nearly enough of these days.

[CropleyWasGod]

Why are they allowed to train and play closed door matches without a permit? Are they not getting paid? I’m an accountant. Let’s say I was French and I get offered a job in the UK. Am I going to be allowed into the country, turn up to my employer’s office and take part in team meetings whilst I wait for my permit just so long as I don’t do any spreadsheet crunching in the meantime? Don’t think so.

Maybe I’m wrong but I just don’t get it. Training, especially, is work to me.

Maybe he was training in his spare time? :greengrin

[chippy]

Why are they allowed to train and play closed door matches without a permit? Are they not getting paid? I’m an accountant. Let’s say I was French and I get offered a job in the UK. Am I going to be allowed into the country, turn up to my employer’s office and take part in team meetings whilst I wait for my permit just so long as I don’t do any spreadsheet crunching in the meantime? Don’t think so.

Maybe I’m wrong but I just don’t get it. Training, especially, is work to me.
I don’t know about accountancy but football is a funny old game

[chippy]

Come on .Net there must be an immigration lawyer on here surely

[Stubbsy90+2]

Was at tynecastle so it wasn’t an elite stadium

:greengrin

[matty_f]

This is the kind of petty childishness we don't see nearly enough of these days.

:agree: Up with this sort of thing.

[worcesterhibby]

I’m an accountant.

fair play for admitting that in public, acceptance of your problems is 50% of overcoming them :greengrin

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Why are they allowed to train and play closed door matches without a permit? Are they not getting paid? I’m an accountant. Let’s say I was French and I get offered a job in the UK. Am I going to be allowed into the country, turn up to my employer’s office and take part in team meetings whilst I wait for my permit just so long as I don’t do any spreadsheet crunching in the meantime? Don’t think so.

Maybe I’m wrong but I just don’t get it. Training, especially, is work to me.

I would imagine they aren't being paid for the time when they are not allowed to 'work', but that the contract will include subsequent recompense.

[JohnM1875]

Youan and Cabraja work permits approved now. Good stuff!

[CmoantheHibs]

Youan and Cabraja work permits approved now. Good stuff!
That’s great news. Cabrajas didn’t take too long.

[GloryGlory]

Youan and Cabraja work permits approved now. Good stuff!

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1551893982011064323

[Tambo]

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1551893982011064323

Great news! Good start to the week. Now to end it with 3 points Saturday.

[Unseen work]

Would imagine both would get minutes tonight for the development team surely?

[Since452]

Youan and Cabraja work permits approved now. Good stuff!

Yaaas roll on Saturday

[Garymcl]

That would be a bonus to see them tonight fingers crossed looking forward to game decent weather as well :thumbsup:

[Diclonius]

Yesssssssssss

[worcesterhibby]

great news I hope they both feature in the second half against St Johnstone, because we are 3-0 up at half time !! (Melks volley, Doidge Sclaff and Porteous header from corner)

[ian cruise]

Why are they allowed to train and play closed door matches without a permit? Are they not getting paid? I’m an accountant. Let’s say I was French and I get offered a job in the UK. Am I going to be allowed into the country, turn up to my employer’s office and take part in team meetings whilst I wait for my permit just so long as I don’t do any spreadsheet crunching in the meantime? Don’t think so.

Maybe I’m wrong but I just don’t get it. Training, especially, is work to me.

Not 100% sure but might be they make a concession for sports people while paperwork is going through. I'm sure the overall process differs from folk coming to the UK to work in banking, software dev, etc.

[HoboHarry]

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1551893982011064323

F**** sake, wouldn't pick a fight with that Cabraja chappie unless I was armed with a bazooka. Even then he looks like he would just eat it.

[hibbydog]

F**** sake, wouldn't pick a fight with that Cabraja chappie unless I was armed with a bazooka. Even then he looks like he would just eat it.

If you shoot him you’ll just make him mad 😂