I like the new manager.

[HIBS NUTS]

I’ve enjoyed the pre season games in portugal, and especially the new signings, i enjoyed the first half against Clyde.
Tonight the first half against Falkirk was Horrendous, but they deserved at least a draw after 90 minutes .
LJ would have hopefully have learned that some of the guys from last season can’t play the ball forward, or press.
I fully expect him to pick a different team,and we will win against bonnyrigg and Morton.
I am now ready for the ridiculous over reactive replies.

[Smartie]

I like him as well, and think no less of him for tonight, as pish as it admittedly was.

[Ozyhibby]

I like him as well, and think no less of him for tonight, as pish as it admittedly was.

I suspect he didn’t take tonight’s game as seriously as he should have with that line up. Alarm bells are ringing.


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[Jim44]

I’ve enjoyed the pre season games in portugal, and especially the new signings, i enjoyed the first half against Clyde.
Tonight the first half against Falkirk was Horrendous, but they deserved at least a draw after 90 minutes .
LJ would have hopefully have learned that some of the guys from last season can’t play the ball forward, or press.
I fully expect him to pick a different team,and we will win against bonnyrigg and Morton.
I am now ready for the ridiculous over reactive replies.

Well you might be disappointed, as I don’t think you’ll get many or any over reactive replies. Few can argue with the gist of your post and most will want what you want. I think your last sentence is unnecessary and just really invites reactions. Even if a few folk take the bait and react, it’s only inevitable that they are annoyed and disgusted by the disgraceful performance tonight.

[HIBS NUTS]

I suspect he didn’t take tonight’s game as seriously as he should have with that line up. Alarm bells are ringing.


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He alluded to the fact that the first half was boring and negative.
Let’s hope we can get the new signings in the team soon.

[Hermit Crab]

I like him but he most certainly got a wake up call tonight. He will know that tonight was nowhere near good enough. He will put it right on Sunday.

[munchar]

Well you might be disappointed, as I don’t think you’ll get many or any over reactive replies. Few can argue with the gist of your post and most will want what you want. I think your last sentence is unnecessary and just really invites reactions. Even if a few folk take the bait and react, it’s only inevitable that they are annoyed and disgusted by the disgraceful performance tonight.

👏
1st half not acceptable. Same old side to side with nobody wanting to take the ball in the middle of the park & be creative. 2nd we battered them. Just a wee bit luck deserted us. If we’d got 1, I’m sure another couple would have followed. These games are for trying things out & trying to win also. Hopefully we win next 2 games & win the group. Disaster if we go out in first round.

[Hermit Crab]

👏
1st half not acceptable. Same old side to side with nobody wanting to take the ball in the middle of the park & be creative. 2nd we battered them. Just a wee bit luck deserted us. If we’d got 1, I’m sure another couple would have followed. These games are for trying things out & trying to win also. Hopefully we win next 2 games & win the group. Disaster if we go out in first round.


We will struggle to win the group now. Falkirk will beat Bonnyrigg and Clyde.

If we go out at the group stage then LJ is in for a very rough ride.

[HIBS NUTS]

Well you might be disappointed, as I don’t think you’ll get many or any over reactive replies. Few can argue with the gist of your post and most will want what you want. I think your last sentence is unnecessary and just really invites reactions. Even if a few folk take the bait and react, it’s only inevitable that they are annoyed and disgusted by the disgraceful performance tonight.

yeh your right about inviting reactions.👍🏻

[Mcbizz1998]

I agree in the main but the initial team selection was poor and the subs were strange.

We took off Mclelland who had a much better first half than Bushiri. We brought on Henderson which is fine but then take off our most creative player in McGeady, whilst leaving that atrocious midfield 3 of Newell, JDH and bloody Campbell.

If he learns his lessons then maybe tonight was a blessing in disguise. I like him though and still hopeful he will get us playing.

[HIBS NUTS]

We will struggle to win the group now. Falkirk will beat Bonnyrigg and Clyde.

If we go out at the group stage then LJ is in for a very rough ride.

we can qualify by being second.

[Hermit Crab]

we can qualify by being second.

We can but I think only 4 teams can qualify through that method, anyway, finishing 2nd in that group is well below par. Nowhere near acceptable.

[Sir David Gray]

We can but I think only 4 teams can qualify through that method, anyway, finishing 2nd in that group is well below par. Nowhere near acceptable.

Only 3 runners up qualify.

[SMAXXA]

We can but I think only 4 teams can qualify through that method, anyway, finishing 2nd in that group is well below par. Nowhere near acceptable.

Shussss you, we will be fine

[HIBS NUTS]

Only 3 runners up qualify.

We have good goal average, and 3 wins would be enough.
However getting beat by falkirk is poor.

[Nemo]

I agree in the main but the initial team selection was poor and the subs were strange.

We took off Mclelland who had a much better first half than Bushiri. We brought on Henderson which is fine but then take off our most creative player in McGeady, whilst leaving that atrocious midfield 3 of Newell, JDH and bloody Campbell.

If he learns his lessons then maybe tonight was a blessing in disguise. I like him though and still hopeful he will get us playing.


I think he knows they're ***** and wants more money, so played them, cause how can you not know they're *****, i mean how can you not ffs!!

[Dmas]

I agree in the main but the initial team selection was poor and the subs were strange.

We took off Mclelland who had a much better first half than Bushiri. We brought on Henderson which is fine but then take off our most creative player in McGeady, whilst leaving that atrocious midfield 3 of Newell, JDH and bloody Campbell.

If he learns his lessons then maybe tonight was a blessing in disguise. I like him though and still hopeful he will get us playing.

Although some wont agree because its competitive cup football I think you need to take into consideration its pre season, Mcgeady didn't start against Clyde as he'd taken a knock in training which could well be the reason he only got 45mins last night, cant just play the same players in the games and expect everyone in the squad to be match fit and to grips with what a new manager is wanting, there was more than enough in the starting 11 to beat Falkirk and the idea would probably have been to take players that played majority v Clyde off rather than the 4 changes at half time to try and get back into the game.

the midfield 3 is an issue though, Kenneh isn't enough to sort that out I hope LJ can see that now and still has the budget to sort it out, there's no pressing they don't show for the ball and I still don't think Campbell knows his role a lot of headless running around standing behind players pointing for passes to go elsewhere

[Since452]

We really should have had 3 or 4 in the 2nd half. First half cost us though and Lee has got to be accountable for that. Need to start your best players in these games. Harsh lesson for everyone last night.

[MWHIBBIES]

We really should have had 3 or 4 in the 2nd half. First half cost us though and Lee has got to be accountable for that. Need to start your best players in these games. Harsh lesson for everyone last night.

Don't think its about starting best players. You have to rotate in cup ties, we need to get everyone fit and up to speed. The problem was, replacements such as McLelland, Dabrowski, Hauge and McGeady played dreadfully.

[Dmas]

Don't think its about starting best players. You have to rotate in cup ties, we need to get everyone fit and up to speed. The problem was, replacements such as McLelland, Dabrowski, Hauge and McGeady played dreadfully.

I didn’t think mcgeady was too bad to be fair, frustrating he was flapping the arms about so much I’m not really wanting the huffs n that to be honest he’s been brought into a young team for his experience he’s helping no one if he’s going to be doing that when the chips are down

[OldEast]

Don't think its about starting best players. You have to rotate in cup ties, we need to get everyone fit and up to speed. The problem was, replacements such as McLelland, Dabrowski, Hauge and McGeady played dreadfully.

I agree rotation is important but having 5 subs I'd always start with the strongest available 11. Play LJ's stated way of high press, hunt in packs, plenty bodies in the box and hopefully score a goal or two. Half-time or early second half for me would be the time to rest/swap players. Chasing the game after a crap first half seldom works for Hibs.

[Dmas]

I agree rotation is important but having 5 subs I'd always start with the strongest available 11. Play LJ's stated way of high press, hunt in packs, plenty bodies in the box and hopefully score a goal or two. Half-time or early second half for me would be the time to rest/swap players. Chasing the game after a crap first half seldom works for Hibs.

It’s the 3rd game into pre season and the 2nd match in a few days can’t just pick same players to play high tempo this early on, easy to say in hindsight the 11 he should have picked there was more than enough in the starting 11 to play better than we did 1st half the players have to shoulder the blame for the effort

[GreenCastle]

It’s the 3rd game into pre season and the 2nd match in a few days can’t just pick same players to play high tempo this early on, easy to say in hindsight the 11 he should have picked there was more than enough in the starting 11 to play better than we did 1st half the players have to shoulder the blame for the effort

Clyde and Falkirk were competitive games not pre-season.

There is a trophy at the end of the this competition.

Hibs and clubs need to start back earlier if they have issues getting up to speed.

There is no excuse for last night as part time Falkirk have a smaller squad and looked just as hungry and sharp as our full time players.

[GreenCastle]

I agree rotation is important but having 5 subs I'd always start with the strongest available 11. Play LJ's stated way of high press, hunt in packs, plenty bodies in the box and hopefully score a goal or two. Half-time or early second half for me would be the time to rest/swap players. Chasing the game after a crap first half seldom works for Hibs.

Yup - we aren’t Real Madrid with 22 great players.

I’m struggling to pick a good 11 just now to start games.

So playing an inexperienced spine with not much quality was a risk.

The lack of leadership was obvious too.

I’ve rarely ever seen us go to Falkirk and have an easy game. He made changes at half time against Clyde so surely could have used some players he took off to start last tonight again.

[Dmas]

Clyde and Falkirk were competitive games not pre-season.

There is a trophy at the end of the this competition.

Hibs and clubs need to start back earlier if they have issues getting up to speed.

There is no excuse for last night as part time Falkirk have a smaller squad and looked just as hungry and sharp as our full time players.

The manager mentioned the return back to training was wrong in one of if not the opening press conference of him joining, it’s pre season no matter the nature of the games were playing in during it, I’m not making excuses for the performance it was rotten I just think the manager has more to think about at this stage than just getting the same 11 players starting from a game 3 days ago

[OldEast]

It’s the 3rd game into pre season and the 2nd match in a few days can’t just pick same players to play high tempo this early on, easy to say in hindsight the 11 he should have picked there was more than enough in the starting 11 to play better than we did 1st half the players have to shoulder the blame for the effort

A couple things in reply. I didn't say the same players I said best available 11 should always start then tinker if you must at/after half time

Secondly it's hardly pre season it's the league cup which should always be treated as seriously as possible.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

It's hardly pre season it's the league cup which should always be treated as seriously as possible.

I don't know why some folk are unable to comprehend that.

[Hibernian Verse]

I don't know why some folk are unable to comprehend that.

It's quite literally pre-season. I.e. games before the league season begins.

However, getting out the group is important and I fully expect LJ to have learned from his mistake last night and win the next 2 with strong team selections. Hopefully Youan and Tavares can come in for Bonnyrigg.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

It's quite literally pre-season. I.e. games before the league season begins.

However, getting out the group is important and I fully expect LJ to have learned from his mistake last night and win the next 2 with strong team selections. Hopefully Youan and Tavares can come in for Bonnyrigg.

Is that the official definition?🤔

The Norwich game is a pre-season game, Saturday and last night's game were League Cup fixtures.

[Since452]

As annoyed as i am about last night i think a bit of perspective is needed. We were all very impressed with the games in Portugal, even the opposition were singing our praises. We were 5-0 up at half time on Saturday and we could/should have scored three of four in the second half last night. I am in no way making excuses for that first half last night or saying it's acceptable, but i'd rather get it out the way now than realise theres a problem after the transfer window has shut well in to our season. As poor as that was last night, it's probably/hopefully served as a huge wake up call that the players need to be at it from the off playing for this club.

Last night wasn't the game to be starting a weakened team on astro turf against a good manager in McGlynn. Get the buisness done on the park first, then give guys minutes. Lessons learned hopefully.

[LaMotta]

It's quite literally pre-season. I.e. games before the league season begins.

However, getting out the group is important and I fully expect LJ to have learned from his mistake last night and win the next 2 with strong team selections. Hopefully Youan and Tavares can come in for Bonnyrigg.

It's not pre season. How can anyone seriously think that? The league cup is part of the season.

[Paulie Walnuts]

It's quite literally pre-season. I.e. games before the league season begins.

However, getting out the group is important and I fully expect LJ to have learned from his mistake last night and win the next 2 with strong team selections. Hopefully Youan and Tavares can come in for Bonnyrigg.

The League Cup is probably the competition we have the best chance of winning. It forms a massive part of our season.

The Clyde, Falkirk, Bonnyrigg and Morton games are not in any way shape or form pre season kick abouts and they shouldn’t be treated as such.

[Since452]

It's not pre season. How can anyone seriously think that? The league cup is part of the season.

:agree: The season has started. When did Falkirk start pre season out of interest? I was impressed with their fitness levels compared to us which was worrying considering we'd been in a warm weather training camp.

[OldEast]

It's quite literally pre-season. I.e. games before the league season begins.

However, getting out the group is important and I fully expect LJ to have learned from his mistake last night and win the next 2 with strong team selections. Hopefully Youan and Tavares can come in for Bonnyrigg.

You're wrong. Don't be so literal 🤷🏻*♂️

[mcohibs]

It's quite literally pre-season. I.e. games before the league season begins.

That's a reach. League Cup is not pre season, it's a competitive fixture.

[Hibernian Verse]

I didn't suggest the games weren't important, but we are in the traditional pre-season period whether the SPFL puts some cup fixtures in it or not.

As LJ said, we weren't back early enough and that's what is causing us rotation issues.

[Dmas]

It's not pre season. How can anyone seriously think that? The league cup is part of the season.

They are competitive football I’m not denying that part but the fitness levels of the team are at pre season they started back what 2 weeks ago? They’ve had 2 bounce games where 2 separate sides played a half each, yes we should have been back earlier the manager himself made his annoyance clear on that but it wasn’t him that set that up, if we play the same 11 twice in a week when fitness levels aren’t right we risk injury now or further into the season the managers hands are tied, there should have been more than enough in the players selected last night to beat Falkirk

[Paulie Walnuts]

They are competitive football I’m not denying that part but the fitness levels of the team are at pre season they started back what 2 weeks ago? They’ve had 2 bounce games where 2 separate sides played a half each, yes we should have been back earlier the manager himself made his annoyance clear on that but it wasn’t him that set that up, if we play the same 11 twice in a week when fitness levels aren’t right we risk injury now or further into the season the managers hands are tied, there should have been more than enough in the players selected last night to beat Falkirk

Falkirk are also at the same stage of their pre season. They don’t have the access we have to higher end sports science stuff to get us ready for the season. The way people are using pre season as an excuse would make you think we were playing a 4 months into the season Falkirk.

If anyone should be using the pre season excuse it should have been Falkirk. This was a competitive game and we should be well ahead of Falkirk in terms of ability and fitness. None of that was on show last night.

[PaulSmith]

I didn't suggest the games weren't important, but we are in the traditional pre-season period whether the SPFL puts some cup fixtures in it or not.

As LJ said, we weren't back early enough and that's what is causing us rotation issues.

We’ve played European games in the “traditional pre season period”.. are these classed as pre-season games as well that we just shrug our shoulders about?

[Paulie Walnuts]

We’ve played European games in the “traditional pre season period”.. are these classed as pre-season games as well that we just shrug our shoulders about?

To be fair they usually are treated similar to last nights game.

We’ve seen us go into Europe more often than not with a half arsed squad that makes you wonder why we make such a big deal of qualifying in the first place.

[vercol36]

We can but I think only 4 teams can qualify through that method, anyway, finishing 2nd in that group is well below par. Nowhere near acceptable.

If we’re going to win the league this year, I don’t think we should be fannying around in the League Cup. It was a tactical loss by LJ

[Hibernian Verse]

We’ve played European games in the “traditional pre season period”.. are these classed as pre-season games as well that we just shrug our shoulders about?

They are games within the pre-season period. I'm not shrugging my shoulders at anything, I'm giving a reasonable explanation for why rotated the squad last night.

We've been well undercooked in European games too. The problem is not whether the games are pre-season or not, the problem lies with how far in advance of the first competitive games we start training.

[bigwheel]

They are games within the pre-season period. I'm not shrugging my shoulders at anything, I'm giving a reasonable explanation for why rotated the squad last night.

We've been well undercooked in European games too. The problem is not whether the games are pre-season or not, the problem lies with how far in advance of the first competitive games we start training.

It’s semantics really this - Our competitive season has started - the club has known about it for a long time . The manager made poor selection choices and the players didn’t turn up last night - it matters - as it makes it much less likely for success in one of the two competitions we have hope for .

[HIBS NUTS]

As annoyed as i am about last night i think a bit of perspective is needed. We were all very impressed with the games in Portugal, even the opposition were singing our praises. We were 5-0 up at half time on Saturday and we could/should have scored three of four in the second half last night. I am in no way making excuses for that first half last night or saying it's acceptable, but i'd rather get it out the way now than realise theres a problem after the transfer window has shut well in to our season. As poor as that was last night, it's probably/hopefully served as a huge wake up call that the players need to be at it from the off playing for this club.

Last night wasn't the game to be starting a weakened team on astro turf against a good manager in McGlynn. Get the buisness done on the park first, then give guys minutes. Lessons learned hopefully.

100 percent this.
let’s actually get the new signings playing, then start making predictions about the new season.

[Ozyhibby]

100 percent this.
let’s actually get the new signings playing, then start making predictions about the new season.

We haven’t signed any proven centre mids so expect more of the same until he does. If he doesn’t, he’ll be gone by Xmas. I said the same about Maloney in January. And you don’t need to be Nostradamus to see why.
We go into the new season with our current midfield options and the manager will lose his job. And he’ll deserve it for not fixing the problem.


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[One Day Soon]

We haven’t signed any proven centre mids so expect more of the same until he does. If he doesn’t, he’ll be gone by Xmas. I said the same about Maloney in January. And you don’t need to be Nostradamus to see why.
We go into the new season with our current midfield options and the manager will lose his job. And he’ll deserve it for not fixing the problem.


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This is, I'm afraid, spot on. He needs to either sign proven quality for the midfield or have all his fingers crossed that the relatively inexperienced signings we have brought in break through. That's quite high risk.

[Dmas]

Falkirk are also at the same stage of their pre season. They don’t have the access we have to higher end sports science stuff to get us ready for the season. The way people are using pre season as an excuse would make you think we were playing a 4 months into the season Falkirk.

If anyone should be using the pre season excuse it should have been Falkirk. This was a competitive game and we should be well ahead of Falkirk in terms of ability and fitness. None of that was on show last night.

I’m not using it as an excuse for last nights performance by the players 1st half, I am using it as an excuse to defend the managers team selection though, the players need mins in the legs some will have needed rested the sports science you talk about will have dictated that, the new manager will be training them hard he wants high tempo football, 2 games in 3 days at this stage of the season will demand squad rotation….it’s mid July just cause we’re in the groups for a cup doesn’t take away it’s a tournament scheduled in pre season, just like when we qualify for Europe and get papped out by some mob 6 games into there season we always moan and groan about moving to summer football cause it’s no good playing these teams whilst in pre season.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’m not using it as an excuse for last nights performance by the players 1st half, I am using it as an excuse to defend the managers team selection though, the players need mins in the legs some will have needed rested the sports science you talk about will have dictated that, the new manager will be training them hard he wants high tempo football, 2 games in 3 days at this stage of the season will demand squad rotation….it’s mid July just cause we’re in the groups for a cup doesn’t take away it’s a tournament scheduled in pre season, just like when we qualify for Europe and get papped out by some mob 6 games into there season we always moan and groan about moving to summer football cause it’s no good playing these teams whilst in pre season.

And all of those things that we need to do need to be done by Falkirk as well surely?

It’s a bit like when having to deal with COVID was always used as an excuse for Jack Ross despite the fact every other team also had to deal with COVID.

[Ozyhibby]

I’m not using it as an excuse for last nights performance by the players 1st half, I am using it as an excuse to defend the managers team selection though, the players need mins in the legs some will have needed rested the sports science you talk about will have dictated that, the new manager will be training them hard he wants high tempo football, 2 games in 3 days at this stage of the season will demand squad rotation….it’s mid July just cause we’re in the groups for a cup doesn’t take away it’s a tournament scheduled in pre season, just like when we qualify for Europe and get papped out by some mob 6 games into there season we always moan and groan about moving to summer football cause it’s no good playing these teams whilst in pre season.

Even if you are managing a bit of squad rotation, I would not have chosen a weaker side for an away game v Falkirk than a home game v Clyde.


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[bigwheel]

I’m not using it as an excuse for last nights performance by the players 1st half, I am using it as an excuse to defend the managers team selection though, the players need mins in the legs some will have needed rested the sports science you talk about will have dictated that, the new manager will be training them hard he wants high tempo football, 2 games in 3 days at this stage of the season will demand squad rotation….it’s mid July just cause we’re in the groups for a cup doesn’t take away it’s a tournament scheduled in pre season, just like when we qualify for Europe and get papped out by some mob 6 games into there season we always moan and groan about moving to summer football cause it’s no good playing these teams whilst in pre season.

Then he should have played last nights team on Saturday and Saturdays team last night. Falkirk away was always going to be our hardest match, and he ha donated a weaker team - it made no sense - and it resulted in a defeat

[JohnM1875]

Even if you are managing a bit of squad rotation, I would not have chosen a weaker side for an away game v Falkirk than a home game v Clyde.


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Especially when we're playing Bonnyrigg Rose this Sunday. Play the weakest XI for that game surely? Really poor decision with that team selection last night.

[ahibby]

Then he should have played last nights team on Saturday and Saturdays team last night. Falkirk away was always going to be our hardest match, and he ha donated a weaker team - it made no sense - and it resulted in a defeat

He must now realise that a result takes priority and presedence over rotation. If you work that way then rotation takes care of itself, because once you have a lead and are in control of the game then you can change accordingly. To play development players against experienced is rookie, and LJ isnt or shouldnt be in that category.

[bigwheel]

He must now realise that a result takes priority and presedence over rotation. If you work that way then rotation takes care of itself, because once you have a lead and are in control of the game then you can change accordingly. To play development players against experienced is rookie, and LJ isnt or shouldnt be in that category.

He’s had over 400 games as manager I believe. , it’s a school boy error - we can only hope it becomes a major learning moment for him

[Dmas]

Then he should have played last nights team on Saturday and Saturdays team last night. Falkirk away was always going to be our hardest match, and he ha donated a weaker team - it made no sense - and it resulted in a defeat

There wasn’t enough on the pitch to beat them, if the players gave the required effort?

It wasn’t as if he played loads of kids that barely play, the team just didn’t work hard enough

[bigwheel]

There wasn’t enough on the pitch to beat them, if the players gave the required effort?

It wasn’t as if he played loads of kids that barely play, the team just didn’t work hard enough

He got it wrong …there is no other conclusion to him
Playing a weaker side than Saturday - it does not make managerial sense

[Dmas]

Even if you are managing a bit of squad rotation, I would not have chosen a weaker side for an away game v Falkirk than a home game v Clyde.


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Do you think after 2 training park games and 2 weeks training, minus guys he’s signed awaiting visas, LJ knows what his strongest team is? he’s giving guys an opportunity to get in the team to start the league season id like to think there’s at least 2 guys who are proving to not be up to it.

[Dmas]

He got it wrong …there is no other conclusion to him
Playing a weaker side than Saturday - it does not make managerial sense

It does your just no interested in seeing it because competitive football has started

[ahibby]

There wasn’t enough on the pitch to beat them, if the players gave the required effort?

It wasn’t as if he played loads of kids that barely play, the team just didn’t work hard enough

Miller Mclelland and Haug to start together was the error. Cadden, Porteous and Melkerson would have been safer.

[bigwheel]

It does your just no interested in seeing it because competitive football has started

you seems to be arguing (I think ) that rotation is fine ..no one is disagreeing with that ..but you also seem to be ignoring the fact he picked the wrong team to start last night . Rather than playing it on Saturday against poorer opponents at home . Even he will know now he ballsed it up last night .

[MrRobot]

Genuinely find it absolutely mental that people are starting to question or raise concerns about him after just 2 competitive games, especially given he is trying to reshape a completely broken squad.

Maybe he didn’t take it seriously enough, but that line up should have been more than enough to see off a league 1 team. He doesn’t seem the type that will pussyfoot around excuses or poor performances at least.

I do hope it’s the last we see of Newell, Jdh and Campbell as a midfield trio though. Newell and Jdh as one of the midfield 3 i think is fine but they are too similar. Campbell needs to go on loan as he is currently nowhere near good enough to be a starting player for us.

[NAE NOOKIE]

I like him too, I like a manager who is brutally honest about the failings of his team. I will like him a lot less if the only reason I have for liking him becomes the way he brutally and honestly assesses his team after yet another defeat.

I want to like my clubs manager because of the number of games he wins. That last night was unacceptable and he simply can't let it happen again.

[Alfred E Newman]

I couldn't care less if I like the manager or not, I just want to watch a decent team on the park.
I liked Hecky and Fenlon but their teams were hopeless.

[Dmas]

Miller Mclelland and Haug to start together was the error. Cadden, Porteous and Melkerson would have been safer.

All 3 played the game before you can’t run them into the ground straight away that’s my point because of when these games are dictate the fact we have to rotate players, mcgeady Newell doidge stevenson bushiri JDH should have been enough experience to carry those 3 players even 2 miller has played on Olympic Games and first team football he shouldn’t need babysat

[bigwheel]

Genuinely find it absolutely mental that people are starting to question or raise concerns about him after just 2 competitive games, especially given he is trying to reshape a completely broken squad.

Maybe he didn’t take it seriously enough, but that line up should have been more than enough to see off a league 1 team. He doesn’t seem the type that will pussyfoot around excuses or poor performances at least.

I do hope it’s the last we see of Newell, Jdh and Campbell as a midfield trio though. Newell and Jdh as one of the midfield 3 i think is fine but they are too similar. Campbell needs to go on loan as he is currently nowhere near good enough to be a starting player for us.

I don’t see people raising any major concerns …just observing that he made some wrong calls, and we got turned over as a result ..Falkirk is like a mini derby ..they had Mackie, McGinn and an ex Hearts contingent ..was always going to be the toughest match ..

Until we’ve played 10-15 league games and see how we are performing, it’s way too early to make any big judgements ..

It’ll be good to get back to worrying about winning big games mind you , rather than worrying about the wee games too ! ;)

[ahibby]

All 3 played the game before you can’t run them into the ground straight away that’s my point because of when these games are dictate the fact we have to rotate players, mcgeady Newell doidge stevenson bushiri JDH should have been enough experience to carry those 3 players even 2 miller has played on Olympic Games and first team football he shouldn’t need babysat

Both, Miller, And Mclelland at fault for the goal. The little I have seen if all three told me they shouldnt be starting together with three better options in the bench. They clearly are not and were not enough.

[Hibernianinc]

We have good goal average, and 3 wins would be enough.
However getting beat by falkirk is poor.

Yep, however 3 wins and a loss is risky territory.

Currently, that definitely beats only one group (Dunfermline’s), and we’re at risk of either 3 wins and a draw or better GD beating us.

Need to scud BR on Saturday and see how the other leagues are looking.

Falkirk loss is a dull one, and takes qualifying out of our hands.

[Alfred E Newman]

Yep, however 3 wins and a loss is risky territory.

Currently, that definitely beats only one group (Dunfermline’s), and we’re at risk of either 3 wins and a draw or better GD beating us.

Need to scud BR on Saturday and see how the other leagues are looking.

Falkirk loss is a dull one, and takes qualifying out of our hands.
If we can't find a way of qualifying out of that group then the whole managerial team and all the players should be sacked ..

[Jim44]

If we can't find a way of qualifying out of that group then the whole managerial team and all the players should be sacked ..

The first part of your statement is not out of the question and the second part is totally out of the question. If we fail to qualify, we will be stuck with a manager and squad who will get most or all of season to prove themselves.

[Golden Bear]

Of course we're all assuming that Falkirk will win their remaining fixtures. Last night was perhaps the biggest game they'll have this season and they may not be quite so motivated for the other group games.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Of course we're all assuming that Falkirk will win their remaining fixtures. Last night was perhaps the biggest game they'll have this season and they may not be quite so motivated for the other group games.

Lol, not be motivated to qualify for the next stage after winning their toughest tie in the group.

[jacomo]

The first part of your statement is not out of the question and the second part is totally out of the question. If we fail to qualify, we will be stuck with a manager and squad who will get most or all of season to prove themselves.


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