Jake Doyle Hayes

[Northernhibee]

Really got a feeling that he’s going to have a good season. Started really well last year and faded but it looks like LJ is playing him to his strengths and in a more attack minded sense. In the games so far he’s been brilliant at winning the ball back and immediately looked to do something positive with it.

I think this season we’ll see a few players who had been close to written off surprise us and just now I think he’s odds on favourite to do that.

Also think LJs “He’s a real poacher, isn’t he?” comment post Clyde makes me think that Doidge has given the manager a dilemma up front too and has shown something he maybe hadn’t seen of him before.

[JohnM1875]

He's looked much much better in the few games he's played under LJ. Really hoping he can keep the form up when we start playing a higher standard of opponent. I have faith that he will.

Could be a right old battle to start in our midfield this season. Good signs.

[PPZPOL]

I was really excited by JDH as he started last season how I want Hibs to play. Was running to get ball back in play, restart game quicker and generally had a buzz about him. That seemed to fade as his fitness/confidence took a knock and he seemed to settle into the same pattern as those around him.

When I heard LJ talk about getting ball back in play quickly I thought he might flourish under him? Hope so, be good to work with what we have and I think he might develop, still young as well.

[Since452]

Anyone would have found it difficult to improve in a team riddled with injuries, Covid, fixture congestion and a manager painfully out of his depth. I've said it about others too but clean slate for me. Positive start to this season.

[Hibiza]

Watching him last season was painful but hope he comes on

[H18S NX]

Really got a feeling that he’s going to have a good season. Started really well last year and faded but it looks like LJ is playing him to his strengths and in a more attack minded sense. In the games so far he’s been brilliant at winning the ball back and immediately looked to do something positive with it.

I think this season we’ll see a few players who had been close to written off surprise us and just now I think he’s odds on favourite to do that.

Also think LJs “He’s a real poacher, isn’t he?” comment post Clyde makes me think that Doidge has given the manager a dilemma up front too and has shown something he maybe hadn’t seen of him before....Totally agree with you m8,I think he will be very good this year,give him the freedom,he won't let you down,IMO.

[WeeRussell]

I know it’s only highlights and ‘only Clyde’ etc etc but those YouTube highlights for me made both him and Campbell look like different players. Positive signs and long may it continue.

[loanheadhibby]

Really got a feeling that he’s going to have a good season. Started really well last year and faded but it looks like LJ is playing him to his strengths and in a more attack minded sense. In the games so far he’s been brilliant at winning the ball back and immediately looked to do something positive with it.

I think this season we’ll see a few players who had been close to written off surprise us and just now I think he’s odds on favourite to do that.

Also think LJs “He’s a real poacher, isn’t he?” comment post Clyde makes me think that Doidge has given the manager a dilemma up front too and has shown something he maybe hadn’t seen of him before.
You are kidding yourself.
Contributed nothing last season and his performances in the two Hearts games at the end of the season were awful.
We are so keen to draw a line over last season.
If we're relying on JDH we are in trouble.

[andrew70]

You are kidding yourself.
Contributed nothing last season and his performances in the two Hearts games at the end of the season were awful.
We are so keen to draw a line over last season.
If we're relying on JDH we are in trouble.

Nonsense. Good player who will thrive this season.

You can draw a line, admit players were poor but also accept that there will be improvements. JDH has talent.

[Northernhibee]

You are kidding yourself.
Contributed nothing last season and his performances in the two Hearts games at the end of the season were awful.
We are so keen to draw a line over last season.
If we're relying on JDH we are in trouble.

😂😂😂😂

If you fed the main board into an algorithm to create an average .net post it would be this.

[BILLYHIBS]

You are kidding yourself.
Contributed nothing last season and his performances in the two Hearts games at the end of the season were awful.
We are so keen to draw a line over last season.
If we're relying on JDH we are in trouble.

Started well with St Mirren …faded

Started well with us ….faded

Let’s see what happens

Fingers crossed

At least he now moving the ball forward

[Lago]

You are kidding yourself.
Contributed nothing last season and his performances in the two Hearts games at the end of the season were awful.
We are so keen to draw a line over last season.
If we're relying on JDH we are in trouble.
Rubbish complete and utter rubbish

[loanheadhibby]

Rubbish complete and utter rubbish

It's the truth and as the last poster stated all we can do is wait and see.
He is a St Mirren standard player and not good enough if we are to challenge the likes of Hearts and Aberdeen.
I'm mystified what people saw in him last season.

[Golden Bear]

JDH is a class act and he'll go to prove it this season.

[loanheadhibby]

JDH is a class act and he'll go to prove it this season.

What a ridiculous statement.
I form an opinion on players in games v Hearts and other big games.
He was completely anonymous.

[loanheadhibby]

JDH is a class act and he'll go to prove it this season.

Genuine question, based on what is he a class act?

[H18 SFR]

I really like JDH, looking forward to seeing and hearing the support get 100% behind him this yeah.

[WeeRussell]

Genuine question, based on what is he a class act?

Okay you don’t like him, we get it. You said further up the thread all we can do is wait and see, and I’m sure you’ll agree it’ll be nice if you turn out to be wrong and he has a good season with us.

[loanheadhibby]

Okay you don’t like him, we get it. You said further up the thread all we can do is wait and see, and I’m sure you’ll agree it’ll be nice if you turn out to be wrong and he has a good season with us.

Absolutely.
Nothing would give me greater pleasure if he rammed my words down my throat.

[WeeRussell]

Absolutely.
Nothing would give me greater pleasure if he rammed my words down my throat.

👍 fingers crossed

[loanheadhibby]

Okay you don’t like him, we get it. You said further up the thread all we can do is wait and see, and I’m sure you’ll agree it’ll be nice if you turn out to be wrong and he has a good season with us.

I’ll be over the moon if he is a class act. I’ll be delighted to be proved wrong.

Mines is a genuine question tho. What are people basing him as a class act/amazing player?

[WeeRussell]

I’ll be over the moon if he is a class act. I’ll be delighted to be proved wrong.

Mines is a genuine question tho. What are people basing him as a class act/amazing player?

I’ll let someone else answer as I haven’t used those terms (here or in real life) to describe him - I’m yet to be convinced he’s a “class act” but I have faith there’s far more football in the lad than what we’ve seen so far. I think we could pick on almost anyone for underperforming in our team last season, and do think JDH has something to offer yet.

Like I said earlier in the thread, the snippets I’ve seen from him this summer makes him look a different player. But agree we’ll have to wait and see.

[Smartie]

What a ridiculous statement.
I form an opinion on players in games v Hearts and other big games.
He was completely anonymous.

He was very good in the Easter Road derby in January.

[Northernhibee]

I’ll be over the moon if he is a class act. I’ll be delighted to be proved wrong.

Mines is a genuine question tho. What are people basing him as a class act/amazing player?

From how different a role he’s played so far under LJ and how well he’s adapting to it. Twice now he’s supplied an assist by pressing high up the pitch, winning possession back and feeding it with a nice pass forwards.

Much more positive and attack minded.

[CapitalGreen]

He was very good in the Easter Road derby in January.

He was absolutely brilliant in the semi-final v Rangers too.

Let’s also remember that he played the majority of last season as a defensive holding midfielder under 2 ultra-pragmatic managers which isn’t his best position. He’ll have a a lot more license under LJ to get forward and influence the game higher up the pitch as we saw on Saturday and during pre-season.

[jacomo]

It's the truth and as the last poster stated all we can do is wait and see.
He is a St Mirren standard player and not good enough if we are to challenge the likes of Hearts and Aberdeen.
I'm mystified what people saw in him last season.


It’s an OPINION man.

You are entitled to it, but don’t be making claims for your own comments that can’t be backed up.

My view is that both managers last season had the players restricted by their system and it didn’t go well. LJ seems to be encouraging them to express themselves more - there are risks in this approach too but also opportunities.

As others have said, let’s give the entire squad a fresh start. JDH might surprise us.

[BILLYHIBS]

JDH has a good engine and not afraid to stick the boot in

Still young, his raw talent, enthusiasm and natural aggression just needs to be channelled in the right direction

Booked 12 times in 44 appearances last season :confused:

Prefer him further forward was outstanding versus Ross County and the Hun

Big season for JDH and HIBS

[Libby Hibby]

What a ridiculous statement.
I form an opinion on players in games v Hearts and other big games.
He was completely anonymous.

Can you define ‘big games’ please?

[blackpoolhibs]

Can you define ‘big games’ please?

Aw FFS man, lets not start that one again. :greengrin

[flash]

JDH has a good engine and not afraid to stick the boot in

Still young, his raw talent, enthusiasm and natural aggression just needs to be channelled in the right direction

Booked 12 times in 44 appearances last season :confused:

Prefer him further forward was outstanding versus Ross County and the Hun

Big season for JDH and HIBS

That booking stat is so unlikely i actually had to check it. You are of course right but it still shocked me.

[PeeJay]

Don't rate him highly myself - he has to show more drive and commitment going forward this season - he is still with us, so you have to hope he will have a good season - bit like Campbell for me, he too really has to up his game massively on a regular basis ...

[bigwheel]

Don't rate him highly myself - he has to show more drive and commitment going forward this season - he is still with us, so you have to hope he will have a good season - bit like Campbell for me, he too really has to up his game massively on a regular basis ...

Players can’t just do what they want on the park - He’s been following manager instructions …playing the role he has been given . If LJ wants him driving forward - I’m sure we will see that more

[Brightside]

Players can’t just do what they want on the park - He’s been following manager instructions …playing the role he has been given . If LJ wants him driving forward - I’m sure we will see that more

Exactly. I do wonder what some fans think players do in games. Do you think him and Newell just decided to be much more defensive? Some of the comments on the main board are laughable these days. People are just desperate to put players down but it’s ok as it’s just their “opinion” JDH is a good player with a big future for us.

[patlowe]

Started well with St Mirren …faded

Started well with us ….faded

Let’s see what happens

Fingers crossed

At least he now moving the ball forward

Surely quite a standard pattern for a young player. Not saying I think JDH is going to be a huge star for us, just that the promise shown is enough to suggest that there is something to build on there as he further develops.

I personally wonder if the expectation to boss games from deep for a club like Hibs was a bit much responsibility for a young guy over the course of a long season in which we were riddled with injuries and a lack of cohesion. I may be wrong but I don't think there are many guys in their early 20s doing that consistently in our league. My initial thought was Ali McCann and he was picked off almost immediately. As someone suggested above, perhaps LJ is freeing JDH up a bit more to express himself and this will help him to flourish.

[BILLYHIBS]

Surely quite a standard pattern for a young player. Not saying I think JDH is going to be a huge star for us, just that the promise shown is enough to suggest that there is something to build on there as he further develops.

I personally wonder if the expectation to boss games from deep for a club like Hibs was a bit much responsibility for a young guy over the course of a long season in which we were riddled with injuries and a lack of cohesion. I may be wrong but I don't think there are many guys in their early 20s doing that consistently in our league. My initial thought was Ali McCann and he was picked off almost immediately. As someone suggested above, perhaps LJ is freeing JDH up a bit more to express himself and this will help him to flourish.

Agree but have to take account of other outside contingencies such as covid loss of form consistency and confidence and playing under restrictive instructions

Fresh start new season things looking positive so far under LJ

Hopefully JDH will flourish in a new more advanced role

Onwards and upwards

[Golden Bear]

Agree but have to take account of other outside contingencies such as covid loss of form consistency and confidence and playing under restrictive instructions

Fresh start new season things looking positive so far under LJ

Hopefully JDH will flourish in a new more advanced role

Onwards and upwards

I agree.

Early last season Jake looked to be an outstanding signing and at that stage of the proceedings he was being played in a more advanced role. As the season progressed, he was asked to play in a deeper role and his form and confidence suffered - along with many of his teammates. I'd rather have him in the team than Joe Newell and based on last season's evidence it's difficult to accommodate both of them. The new Manager may think otherwise however.

[H18 SFR]

Hope JDH starts tonight again tonight with NK behind him again. Another assist incoming for me.

[PeeJay]

Players can’t just do what they want on the park - He’s been following manager instructions …playing the role he has been given . If LJ wants him driving forward - I’m sure we will see that more

Seriously? IMO, he doesn't do enough going forward with the ball - often, last season, when we were trailing and he kept going sideways or passing backwards, did you really think he was doing what the manager told him?

Doesn't really matter, hope he proves me wrong this season and has a good one, after all, it's in the interest of the team.

[Brightside]

Seriously? IMO, he doesn't do enough going forward with the ball - often, last season, when we were trailing and he kept going sideways or passing backwards, did you really think he was doing what the manager told him?

Doesn't really matter, hope he proves me wrong this season and has a good one, after all, it's in the interest of the team.

Yes - he was doing what he was told to do. Otherwise they'd have dropped him. I think we can all agree that we sleepwalked into a very pedestrian way of playing football once Boyle left. No risk and always safe or back.

[SChibs]

Seriously? IMO, he doesn't do enough going forward with the ball - often, last season, when we were trailing and he kept going sideways or passing backwards, did you really think he was doing what the manager told him?

Doesn't really matter, hope he proves me wrong this season and has a good one, after all, it's in the interest of the team.

Well yeah. Maloneys style was clearly keep the ball at all costs and play safe passes. A lack of movement in the final third was a big problem for us so if there wasn't an option in front the ball wasn't going to go in that direction

[B.H.F.C]

Seriously? IMO, he doesn't do enough going forward with the ball - often, last season, when we were trailing and he kept going sideways or passing backwards, did you really think he was doing what the manager told him?

Doesn't really matter, hope he proves me wrong this season and has a good one, after all, it's in the interest of the team.

Think the truth lies somewhere in the middle, as is generally the case IMO.

The poor form of the players can’t solely be blamed on Maloney. The way he wanted to play was definitely a factor but the players could have still been more progressive within that for me.

[Northernhibee]

Should say that for the same reasons as I outlined for JDH, I’m keen to see more of Josh Campbell too. Think he’s had a good pre season so far.

[PeeJay]

Yes - he was doing what he was told to do. Otherwise they'd have dropped him. I think we can all agree that we sleepwalked into a very pedestrian way of playing football once Boyle left. No risk and always safe or back.

As I said, we will see how it pans out ...

[theonlywayisup]

I'm convinced that JDH and Campbell are good players, hoping that last year's poor form was more down to poor team structure and managerial direction than poor players. A clean slate from me.

I was actually quite impressed by Campbell on Saturday - he was certainly more offensive with his forward runs which is something we missed last season.

JDH was trying the find more space in midfield and was attempting the crossfield ball to the strikers a lot. Yes, he did have some backward passes too.

They need competition to keep them on their toes, so I'm hoping our midfield is more dynamic and skillful this season.

[1875Sean]

After the first half the jury is still very much out

[Nicho87]

Contract should never have been extended.

[Steve88]

JDH found his level vs clyde

Don't mistake that one game performance for a good player

[chrisski33]

Jdh and newell can gtf now

[BILLYHIBS]

Dud!

[loanheadhibby]

Dud!

Campbell, JDH and Newell are all duds.
Why do I get shot down for stating this.
They are miles away from what we need.

[Jdawg]

Campbell, JDH and Newell are all duds.
Why do I get shot down for stating this.
They are miles away from what we need.

Nah you are spot on.

[Not In The Know]

Not got the mentality to play at the level we need. 5 mins to go and he was hiding when could easily received a throw in on the half way line.

Interestingly, while watching Wimbledon the commentator mentioned that all the players on tour are great players on their day, but it’s the ones that can apply consistency that make a success off it. Ones that have that mental strength to apply their self week in week out.

Same could be said about half our team.

In football you sometimes get the opposite, not as good players with perhaps not the most ability in the team. But have the mentality to play in a team week in week out.

[jakeshibs]

I am sorry but i just don't rate JDH, he is too lightweight and not direct enough or forward thinking enough to impact the midfield.

Paired with Campbell its a very poor midfield and easily dominated, as witnessed last season.

[Nicho87]

Contract extension soon probably

[delbert]

JDH is a class act and he'll go to prove it this season.

Well he is going about it in a surprisingly stupid way, because right now he looks like a little boy lost !

[Smartie]

If I saw either Joe Newell or JDH's name on the team sheet I'd be far more likely to predict a woeful team performance from the Joe Newell team.

If the pair of them were in it together I'd think it highly likely.

JDH just strikes me as being the more likely of the 2 to find his place in a cohesive and competitive midfield unit.

Worryingly, I don't think we're much (any?) closer to fixing the midfield problem and it was one of our biggest issues last season.

I'm back to hoping this Croatian lad comes in to play LB so we can get Lewis into the middle. Lewis (or Kenneh) JDH and Henderson is probably the best we can do with what we have currently.

[Stubbsy90+2]

If I saw either Joe Newell or JDH's name on the team sheet I'd be far more likely to predict a woeful team performance from the Joe Newell team.

If the pair of them were in it together I'd think it highly likely.

JDH just strikes me as being the more likely of the 2 to find his place in a cohesive and competitive midfield unit.

Worryingly, I don't think we're much (any?) closer to fixing the midfield problem and it was one of our biggest issues last season.

I'm back to hoping this Croatian lad comes in to play LB so we can get Lewis into the middle. Lewis (or Kenneh) JDH and Henderson is probably the best we can do with what we have currently.

We’re not any closer to fixing it imo.

We’ve added another midfielder who looks like he’ll be nothing but defensive (which isn’t a criticism of Kenneh) and kept 3 players who offer nothing in an attacking sense.

The centre of our midfield will be every bit as bad as last season without some new additions.

[flash]

If I saw either Joe Newell or JDH's name on the team sheet I'd be far more likely to predict a woeful team performance from the Joe Newell team.

If the pair of them were in it together I'd think it highly likely.

JDH just strikes me as being the more likely of the 2 to find his place in a cohesive and competitive midfield unit.

Worryingly, I don't think we're much (any?) closer to fixing the midfield problem and it was one of our biggest issues last season.

I'm back to hoping this Croatian lad comes in to play LB so we can get Lewis into the middle. Lewis (or Kenneh) JDH and Henderson is probably the best we can do with what we have currently.
The mere fact you suggest Stevenson in midfield is the way forward shows how bad our midfield options currently are.

[Smartie]

We’re not any closer to fixing it imo.

We’ve added another midfielder who looks like he’ll be nothing but defensive (which isn’t a criticism of Kenneh) and kept 3 players who offer nothing in an attacking sense.

The centre of our midfield will be every bit as bad as last season without some new additions.

It's a bit concerning (although not remotely surprising) that there's not been any sign of Magennis.

He brought something different out of Newell and JDH last season.

I'm loathe to write any of them off as a result but that 3 from last night certainly don't cut it together and never will.

[w pilton hibby]

The Jake Doyle-Hayes progress that signals Hibs are finally dealing with midfield issues

From the EEN

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/the-jake-doyle-hayes-progress-that-signals-hibs-are-finally-dealing-with-midfield-issues-4073898

[easty]

The Jake Doyle-Hayes progress that signals Hibs are finally dealing with midfield issues

From the EEN

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/the-jake-doyle-hayes-progress-that-signals-hibs-are-finally-dealing-with-midfield-issues-4073898

That article is pretty rubbish to be honest, I’m all for being positive, but let’s give it a few games before stating JDH is “thriving under Johnson”. It was one game.

His start against Celtc was his first start for us since August. In 2023, he’s played once in March, 7 mins in February and 25 mins in January.

[Libby Hibby]

He was flawless on Saturday, long may it continue.

[Johnny_Leith]

He's a very good player imo, hopefully we can keep him fit, he'll go on to earn international recognition if so.

[Smartie]

He was flawless on Saturday, long may it continue.

He’s had a few very good performances for us.

Like his pal Joe Newell though, he’s also had a number of quieter ones and has been part of some pretty miserable collective midfield and overall team performances.

I must admit I quite like him and have been disappointed whenever I’ve heard him linked with an exit as I think he can be part of a good team.

[The Modfather]

He’s had a few very good performances for us.

Like his pal Joe Newell though, he’s also had a number of quieter ones and has been part of some pretty miserable collective midfield and overall team performances.

I must admit I quite like him and have been disappointed whenever I’ve heard him linked with an exit as I think he can be part of a good team.

I’d keep one of JDH or Newell, although don’t think we particularly miss either as the signings of Jeggo & Egan-Reilly show IMO, and probably keep JDH out of the two.

For next season I’d have Jeggo & Campbell as starters & sign a similar type of replacement for Egan-Reilly to compliment them both. With either of JDH or Newell as quality backup.

[Since452]

I think JDH could become a very good player for us. I see a lot of potential there. LJ has demonstrated a knack for improving players. If he can do the same with JDH then we're on to a winner.

[Torto7]

Hibs have given teams the framework of how to slow Celtic down a bit. A lot of their build up play comes from the right back. Anytime Johnstone touched the ball on Sat JDH was all over him. He's a useful player but I've never thought he was a good holding player like Jeggo is as he lacks on the tactical side of things.

[Tyler Durden]

I’d keep one of JDH or Newell, although don’t think we particularly miss either as the signings of Jeggo & Egan-Reilly show IMO, and probably keep JDH out of the two.

For next season I’d have Jeggo & Campbell as starters & sign a similar type of replacement for Egan-Reilly to compliment them both. With either of JDH or Newell as quality backup.

A 3 of Campbell, Jeggo and Egan Riley is not well balanced. It worked for a period against a poor Killie side. That’s about it.

Delighted with the contribution of Jeggo and Egan Riley so far but in the games to come we’ll need Newell and his passing ability. Or JDH if he can produce something we’ve yet to see from him and actually get about the park.

Next season I’d be looking at Campbell as a starter and hopefully we get upgrades on Newell and Jeggo. Or they hit top form to keep their spots.

[Northernhibee]

A 3 of Campbell, Jeggo and Egan Riley is not well balanced. It worked for a period against a poor Killie side. That’s about it.

Delighted with the contribution of Jeggo and Egan Riley so far but in the games to come we’ll need Newell and his passing ability. Or JDH if he can produce something we’ve yet to see from him and actually get about the park.

Next season I’d be looking at Campbell as a starter and hopefully we get upgrades on Newell and Jeggo. Or they hit top form to keep their spots.
I’ll be honest, I think that’s harsh on both Newell and Jeggo. Both important players for us.

[The Modfather]

A 3 of Campbell, Jeggo and Egan Riley is not well balanced. It worked for a period against a poor Killie side. That’s about it.

Delighted with the contribution of Jeggo and Egan Riley so far but in the games to come we’ll need Newell and his passing ability. Or JDH if he can produce something we’ve yet to see from him and actually get about the park.

Next season I’d be looking at Campbell as a starter and hopefully we get upgrades on Newell and Jeggo. Or they hit top form to keep their spots.

That’s fair. It’s not my perfect midfield make up, that’s the 3 distinct roles of McGeough, McGinn & Allan. I just think having two solid midfielders and someone who gets in the box and runs ahead of the ball is suited to Scottish football. It’s not without its limitations, mainly creativity against teams that sit in. However I think having Boyle out wide and hopefully Youan out left would give us solidity while also having creativity & quality out wide.

[BILLYHIBS]

I like JDH but as others have said has a lot of quietish performances and then finds himself out of the team

Needs to keep the high tempo going played well on Saturday

Also likes to put the boot in which is not a bad thing but picks up unnecessary bookings putting himself under early pressure getting hooked before sent off

Needs to control his discipline on the park game intelligence and cut out the rash challenges will probably pick up less injuries as well

His best performance was when his mates came over from Dublin and he scored a brace against Ross County IIRC

Was surprised Hibs have recently been linked with letting him go ( did he not turn down a move or fell through ? ) has potential and needs nurtured

2 goals in 56 appearances 14 bookings