Rocky Hated by fans

[Billychaotic182]

After getting told of what was said at tonight’s Q&A with the management team. It really annoyed me and actually found it quite upsetting that Rocky had to ask Ben why the fans hated him. This isn’t right. No Hibs player should ever be made to feel like that. I hope fans can get behind him now and show the big man some love. I hope he uses this as motivation to prove a lot of people wrong. But that line tonight from the Q&A is a very poor reflection on our fan base.

[matty_f]

After getting told of what was said at tonight’s Q&A with the management team. It really annoyed me and actually found it quite upsetting that Rocky had to ask Ben why the fans hated him. This isn’t right. No Hibs player should ever be made to feel like that. I hope fans can get behind him now and show the big man some love. I hope he uses this as motivation to prove a lot of people wrong. But that line tonight from the Q&A is a very poor reflection on our fan base.

I saw someone refer to that on Twitter and it really is shameful.

Folk, at some point, need to reflect on how toxic their words can be.

[SHODAN]

That's absolutely pathetic. Really feel for him, completely inexcusable.

The people who're actually responsible won't care though. Free speech etc.

[H18 SFR]

Our fan base seems to have been taken over by absolute *****.

[basehibby]

Football players should be banned from viewing social media.

As fans we all offer our critique of our players. Sadly, for some, a paucity of vocabulary seems to limit the terms of their critiques to either "brilliant" or "sheight" or variations on the theme.

There is absolutely NO WAY that I Hate Rocky. However, from what I've seen so far he is a limited footballer and on that basis I doubt the wisdom of extending his stay at ER. That said he is certainly a unit! And He's also a young player who will hopefully improve with good coaching. So I'm hopeful he will prove me wrong.

I think my opinion reflects that of most Hibs fans - so Rocky should pay less attention to the social edit haters and know that there are thousands in the stands 100% behind him and aching for him to succeed

[StevesFamau5]

I actually hate some of our support on social media. Some properly weird and creepy wee freaks with too much time on their hands.

I genuinely hope Rocky will be a success and show these wee scrotes up to be pathetic little wallopers.

[Smartie]

There is so much about the whole Rocky situation that just doesn’t reflect well on us, either the club or the supporters.

[Bishop Hibee]

I saw this referred to on Twitter as well. I personally don’t know fans who hate him but I know fans, myself included, who wonder if he’s the level of player Hibs should be aspiring to. Up to him to have a good pre-season and then prove myself and other doubters wrong. No need for folk going OTT but sadly that’s Twitter etc for you.

A good thing for centre halves like Mark Fulton and Neil Cooper that social media wasn’t about in the 80’s. Compared to them Rocky looks like Van Dyke.

[Unseen work]

That’s actually really sad that any person is made to feel like that, especially a young footballer who is new to a club and trying to make his way in the game.

He seemed to love the club and the city.

The abuse he’s got has been ridiculous, hopefully he can kick on and prove everyone wrong.

[Callum_62]

Yep, we really do have some absolutely moronic, immature A holes in our support

Immature, angry men who are quite frankly a disgrace (one look on twitter or FB will confirm that)

I hope rocky goes into the prove them wrong while connecting with one of his 'north sea punts' to there face



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[cameronw-hfc]

Our fan base seems to have been taken over by absolute *****.

Its been like this for a bit. I remember Stevenson having 7/10 performances every week yet groans and boos towards him constantly as he came through as a kid.

Our fans NEED a scapegoat, always have always will. See Liam Craig, Stevenson, Hanlon, Nish, Macey, Rocky, all got some pretty disgusting abuse, it's only easier for everyone else to notice now that its the age of social media. The same idiots were about years ago as well, the old "Hibs fans use to support their own" myth has never been true. We're a fickle set of fans and as every year goes on the pre social media age of Hibs fans seem to get better and better.

For as long as I've been alive and going to Hibs games we've had fans like this, its infuriating but its nothing new.

If you're a player at Hibs you're either world class or couldn't get a game for Broxburn Juniors. There's never an in-between with our fans, one extreme to another.

If you look at the FB profiles giving abuse and listing the mental comments most come from 30-60yo Hibs Da's.

[MWHIBBIES]

Really sad to hear this. Some folk simply are not Hibs supporters, regardless of attending games etc. They are pathetic

[DstN75]

Football players should be banned from viewing social media.

As fans we all offer our critique of our players. Sadly, for some, a paucity of vocabulary seems to limit the terms of their critiques to either "brilliant" or "sheight" or variations on the theme.

There is absolutely NO WAY that I Hate Rocky. However, from what I've seen so far he is a limited footballer and on that basis I doubt the wisdom of extending his stay at ER. That said he is certainly a unit! And He's also a young player who will hopefully improve with good coaching. So I'm hopeful he will prove me wrong.

I think my opinion reflects that of most Hibs fans - so Rocky should pay less attention to the social edit haters and know that there are thousands in the stands 100% behind him and aching for him to succeed

Excellent summary, I agree entirely.

He’s not at the standard we need at the moment, IMO. I’d love him to get there though and I wish him well in his efforts to do so. Would I put him in the hibs team every week? Absolutely not. But that’s not his fault and maybe he can get there. I certainly don’t think abusing him works for anybody.

[CraigHibee]

Certainly don't hate him by any means and more than willing to give him a chance if he stays. Some of the stuff I've seen on twitter by neanderthals is embarrassing though, you actually wonder if they are actually hibs fans half the time

[NAE NOOKIE]

Some of the nonsense spouted by so called fans goes way beyond acceptable. But there's little doubt the general consensus amongst the fans is that few were impressed by his outings for the club during his loan spell and just as few were keen to see him given a contract based on those performances.

The plain fact is, a few morons aside who will spout OTT nonsense no matter who the player is, that Rocky isn't a hit with our fanbase just now, it's not 'hate' it's simply a lack of enthusiasm for a player we don't rate, and I'll freely admit I'm one of them. I'll be more than happy to see him ram that assessment right down my throat.

Hate him? ... Absolutely not.

Don't rate him? ... absolutely.

In short. The folk who post hateful pish will always do that and cant be won over, 90 odd percent of fans simply call things as they see them and if you prove them wrong they'll love you for it ..... over to you Rocky.

[McIntosh]

We have some real morons in our fan base, goodness me, who says that is not right in the head. This is not just shameful, it is sad, those who said it need to get a real life.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Awful that he's become the scapegoat tbh. He's not done as much wrong as people seem to think.. In fact, in his time here, darling Porto has probably made more errors

[DstN75]

Some of the nonsense spouted by so called fans goes way beyond acceptable. But there's little doubt the general consensus amongst the fans is that few were impressed by his outings for the club during his loan spell and just as few were keen to see him given a contract based on those performances.

The plain fact is, a few morons aside who will spout OTT nonsense no matter who the player is, that Rocky isn't a hit with our fanbase just now, it's not 'hate' it's simply a lack of enthusiasm for a player we don't rate, and I'll freely admit I'm one of them. I'll be more than happy to see him ram that assessment right down my throat.

Hate him? ... Absolutely not.

Don't rate him? ... absolutely.

In short. The folk who post hateful pish will always do that and cant be won over, 90 odd percent of fans simply call things as they see them and if you prove them wrong they'll love you for it ..... over to you Rocky.

Maybe it’s not just hibs and all fanbases have a minority who just brutally hate on players who they don’t feel are up to it. But I’m old enough to remember Stuart Lovell getting pelters and, while in no way a footballer blessed with endless flair, he was an absolutely solid player in a really good hibs team.

I do sometimes feel that if we were winning the champions league there would be a section of fans going mental about one of our full backs and how one footed they were or whatever.

[Jim44]

I am regularly embarrassed by and ashamed of some of the remarks made by supposed Hibs supporters on this website and further afield on ‘anti-Social media. And I don’t believe for a second that most or even a lot comes from Jambo gatecrashers. After 21 years on this messageboard, I can easily see a time when I’ll bow out avoid the unpleasantness of it all. :bitchy:

[FilipinoHibs]

I am regularly embarrassed by and ashamed of some of the remarks made by supposed Hibs supporters on this website and further afield on ‘anti-Social media. And I don’t believe for a second that most or even a lot comes from Jambo gatecrashers. After 21 years on this messageboard, I can easily see a time when I’ll bow out avoid the unpleasantness of it all. :bitchy:

Agree. Too many fans on here shout down other fans contributions with virtole.

[Stairway 2 7]

Hardly surprising from the same support who booed James Scott and dray Wright when they came on. This message board has been pretty vile and over negative in recent months also.

[Broken Gnome]

Same sort of attention seeking ****s that reply to the officials tweets on McGinn and Macey with 'YASSSSSSSSS' and the like.

Mini online celebrities in their own minds. Embarrassing.

[Yorkshire HFC]

"Football fans" are not nice people - you just have to go to a game to see that.

And then there's the internet - just look at what has been written on here about previous managers - and after every defeat about some of the players.

Yet people still complain that fans are treated badly by the owners and authorities. No - fans are badly treated because of how they behave.

[Dalianwanda]

Same sort of attention seeking ****s that reply to the officials tweets on McGinn and Macey with 'YASSSSSSSSS' and the like.

Mini online celebrities in their own minds. Embarrassing.

Exactly, probable self confidence issues so take the simple route and pick on others.

This just makes me so sad re Rocky..As said he’s a young lad with potential. He just got played a bit more than expected last season. I sent him a message of support on twitter, felt had to do something.

[Libby Hibby]

I don’t think Rocky is as bad as some make out. He has all the attributes to be a good defender, pacy, big, strong and athletic. I think if properly coached we could a good defender on our hands. A real cult hero… remember them?

I’m sure he was playing through an injury last season at some point due to suspensions and other injuries to the squad which probably didn’t help with performances.

Maybe if we do get right behind him and he has a good pre-season, it will give him a bit of confidence then maybe just maybe he could do well for us. Funnier things have happened.

[BILLYHIBS]

Rocky in danger of becoming the next Drey Wright

Getting the vibe that our normally unflappable and always positive Chairman Ron Gordon is getting pissed off with a section of our support as well

[The dalmeny]

I actually hate some of our support on social media. Some properly weird and creepy wee freaks with too much time on their hands.

I genuinely hope Rocky will be a success and show these wee scrotes up to be pathetic little wallopers.

You only have to see the post about macey on the official Twitter

[Since452]

After getting told of what was said at tonight’s Q&A with the management team. It really annoyed me and actually found it quite upsetting that Rocky had to ask Ben why the fans hated him. This isn’t right. No Hibs player should ever be made to feel like that. I hope fans can get behind him now and show the big man some love. I hope he uses this as motivation to prove a lot of people wrong. But that line tonight from the Q&A is a very poor reflection on our fan base.

There's a really worrying trend amongst our fans to rip in to players and the club itself. It's damaging. Ron mentioned it himself in a recent interview. What do people expect to achieve by it? Drey Wright didn't deserve the abuse he got and was clearly in his shell. The Macey as McGinn replies on social media were embarrassing. Do people not think that it reflects poorly on us as a club? Rocky unfortunately is going to be the new Wright. Is it a social media thing? Quite sad. Are fans of other clubs the same? I always hear hat you cant blame the fans for poor performances but if you were being constantly publicly slated would your work performance suffer?

[The dalmeny]

Football players should be banned from viewing social media.


Let’s try something novel and ban the haters

[Libby Hibby]

Let’s try something novel and ban the haters

100% agree

[JimBHibees]

What a depressing thread unfortunately social media is totally unregulated and allows social misfits a voice they shouldn't have. Players if they were sensible would stay off it or control their use of it. The club should turn off comments also and the more hateful posts reported as if that would do anything as it seems governments don't care enough about it.

[jacomo]

Solidarity with Rocky!

Folk hurling abuse on social media are a total embarrassment.

[Gatecrasher]

I haven't heard or seen what happened but whilst it sounds like a horrible moment the club should never put them in that position in the first place, anyone with a bit of common sense would know the reaction to his signing and the controversy around that may have come up.

Are the questions not even vetted at these things to protect everyone from the morons?

[lyonhibs]

If Rocky thinks what he sees on Twitter from the vocal minority of windae licking fuds represents the Hibs support at large then that's on him. That said, people that spout absolute ***** are an absolute embarrassment, mainly to themselves.

He's not been up to par yet, and clearly were it not for the clause that was triggered it's improbable that he'd still be here, but I hope he proves lots of us wrong.

[andudare2]

I wonder how many of them would have the balls to slag Rocky to his face,would hazard a guess at a big fat zero.

[Since90+2]

What actually happened here? Was he being slagged on Twitter or was he actually at the Q&A and people were slagging him off?

[Eaststand]

Let’s try something novel and ban the haters

I'm with you on this Dalmeny.

Good healthy debate and having an opinion is great, but there are around 5 or 6 regular posters on here who constantly criticise our club, players, and our decent posters too.

These posters manage to stay just inside the line for being reported but they regularly bring threads down by spouting their constantly sad pathetic negative pish.

This site would be a much better place for the majority of decent minded supporters if the site admins could clear some of these tossers out.

C'mon the clear out 👍🏻

*Edit, while I'm on a roll with my rant. There used to be a poster on here, a guy who lived in France.
His posts were always worth reading as IMHO he posted lots of good stuff worth reading, and it shone through from his posts that he loved Hibs.

He often tried defending our club and players from the constantly negative crap, but in trying to defend them he got involved in an argument or two and he no longer posts on here. Sad that this site lost a decent supporter like that.

End of rant, I'm getting ready to take my wee mutt a walk to the park.

GGTTH

[Slim Shady]

What a lot of piss.

Why do fans hate me. I haven’t seen any hatred posted towards Rocky.

I have seen fans really pissed off at his sub standard performances, notable being rag dolled off the ball at Tynie that led to a goal.

If you want fans to give you ‘love’ - show the fans what they want.
Fight and win your personal battle on the pitch at all costs.

If you don’t. Someone else behind you will and you will move on.

[Brightside]

Solidarity with Rocky!

Folk hurling abuse on social media are a total embarrassment.

This site, FB, and Twitter are awash with people happy to make personal comments about players and staff. Just because we buy tickets doesn’t give you a right to make those comments. It’s possible to be a critical of a player without saying they are crap, pish, garbage etc. We’ve all probably been guilty of going too far with those comments at some point so don’t be suddenly surprised to hear that they effect players. We can all do better.

[lyonhibs]

I'm with you on the Dalmeny.
Good healthy debate and having an opinion is great, but there are around 5 or 6 regular posters on here who constantly criticise our club and players. These posters manage to stay just inside the line for being reported but they regalarly bring threads down by spouting their constantly sad pathetic negative pish.

This site would be a much better place for the majority of decent minded supporters if the site admins could clear some of these tossers out.

C'mon the clear out 👍🏻

GGTTH
If you think the moaners on .net are bad, I take it you're not au fait with Twitter or Facebook?

[flash]

I have muted probably 50 or 60 people on twitter.

It does make for a better experience.

I should say that nothing on this forum comes anywhere near social media levels of bile towards Hibs.

[Eaststand]

If you think the moaners on .net are bad, I take it you're not au fait with Twitter or Facebook?

I don't do either of those for that very reason bud.

GGTTH

[HH81]

Rocky if he stays, will prove everyone wrong this season with a good pre-season under his belt.

[Mr. Wonderful]

As much as it's awful and I feel for the big guy, the club scored an own goal in the last minute with the way they announced the signing. PR department should be looking at the mistake they made on that one and making sure it doesn't happen again

[Dalianwanda]

What a lot of piss.

Why do fans hate me. I haven’t seen any hatred posted towards Rocky.

I have seen fans really pissed off at his sub standard performances, notable being rag dolled off the ball at Tynie that led to a goal.

If you want fans to give you ‘love’ - show the fans what they want.
Fight and win your personal battle on the pitch at all costs.

If you don’t. Someone else behind you will and you will move on.

There’s a big difference critiquing his performce and personally abusing the guy. I’m guessing you don’t read facebook or twitter if you have read to abuse/hatred he gets.

He was thrown in at the deep end and had to be played as we didn’t have back up. He’s a young guy that has potential. Wish some ‘supporters’ would show a bit more empathy.

[Aldo]

What a lot of piss.

Why do fans hate me. I haven’t seen any hatred posted towards Rocky.

I have seen fans really pissed off at his sub standard performances, notable being rag dolled off the ball at Tynie that led to a goal.

If you want fans to give you ‘love’ - show the fans what they want.
Fight and win your personal battle on the pitch at all costs.

If you don’t. Someone else behind you will and you will move on.

Why is it a lot of piss (your words)

Hatred takes form in many ways and it’s about perception!

Young player at a new club and he’s struggled to settle. Few mistakes and folk like yourself right on his back and coming out with this sort of piss (my words).

He’s a young man and just because he hasn’t played well doesn’t give you or anyone else the right to abuse him.

Just think for a minute about his current situation? Made worse by the club who screwed up and he’s back where the manager has told him he’s not in his plans?

When Rocky does finally move on whose next on your hit list!

I really do hope this never happens to you as the world can be a very lonely place!


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[flash]

What a lot of piss.

Why do fans hate me. I haven’t seen any hatred posted towards Rocky.

I have seen fans really pissed off at his sub standard performances, notable being rag dolled off the ball at Tynie that led to a goal.

If you want fans to give you ‘love’ - show the fans what they want.
Fight and win your personal battle on the pitch at all costs.

If you don’t. Someone else behind you will and you will move on.

Graceless drivel.

[marinello59]

Full support for Rocky if he has been getting a hard time on social media. Unfortunately Twitter allows a loud minority to have a platform.

Did the player himself come out and say this was happening or did somebody else make it public?

[.Sean.]

That’s ****ing outrageous, the self entitled wee keyboard warrior fuds on Twitter and Facebook need to have a long hard look at themselves

[Colr]

Supporter:
1.
a person who approves of and encourages a public figure, political party, policy, football team etc.
"Hibs supporters"

[hibsbollah]

Very very difficult for young professional sportsmen to know what to do on social media. On one hand, everyone knows you're guaranteed to be abused at some point, or in some cases systematically. Everyone also knows that can have a terrible effect on mental health, no matter the occasional idiot that crops up with the 'man up' or 'just play better' chat.

But on the other hand, no young person these days doesn't engage on multiple platforms these days, so going offline is cutting yourself of from your friends in most cases.

Online bullying, FFS what a ****show. I really wish we could go back to 1994 sometimes and set the world up properly.

[itslegaltender]

If this was Ben at the Q and A it does seem to have been effective in diverting attention away from the issue of whether we ended up signing him because we made the error of playing him in those last two games. 🤔

Hope he goes on to progress and be a Hibee legend.

[Hibernian Verse]

vocal minority of windae licking fuds

That was poetic.

[The Spaceman]

He goes into this season with my full backing. He showed glimpses last season of being a good player - still young and developing. Our system last season invited pressure onto our defence to soak up play - hoping this season it’s tilted further up the park.

[Hibernian Verse]

As much as it's awful and I feel for the big guy, the club scored an own goal in the last minute with the way they announced the signing. PR department should be looking at the mistake they made on that one and making sure it doesn't happen again

"I feel for him but it's the clubs fault"

How about we all act like the adults we are?

[Callum_62]

What a lot of piss.

Why do fans hate me. I haven’t seen any hatred posted towards Rocky.

I have seen fans really pissed off at his sub standard performances, notable being rag dolled off the ball at Tynie that led to a goal.

If you want fans to give you ‘love’ - show the fans what they want.
Fight and win your personal battle on the pitch at all costs.

If you don’t. Someone else behind you will and you will move on.Well if you haven't seen it, it must not have happened

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[Hibbyradge]

What a lot of piss.

Why do fans hate me. I haven’t seen any hatred posted towards Rocky.



Clearly, he has.

[dalkeith stu]

What a lot of piss.

Why do fans hate me. I haven’t seen any hatred posted towards Rocky.

I have seen fans really pissed off at his sub standard performances, notable being rag dolled off the ball at Tynie that led to a goal.

If you want fans to give you ‘love’ - show the fans what they want.
Fight and win your personal battle on the pitch at all costs.

If you don’t. Someone else behind you will and you will move on.

Players at our level occasionally make mistakes, if he was the finished article he unfortunately wouldn't be anywhere near Easter Road!!! Support the team FFS or perhaps away and support Real ****in Madrid!!!!!

[CallumLaidlaw]

If this was Ben at the Q and A it does seem to have been effective in diverting attention away from the issue of whether we ended up signing him because we made the error of playing him in those last two games. [emoji848]

Hope he goes on to progress and be a Hibee legend.

It was mentioned at a separate point after Kensell had already explained the end of the loan/start of new deal


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[Golden Bear]

100% agree

Seconded.

[Mr. Wonderful]

"I feel for him but it's the clubs fault"

How about we all act like the adults we are?

Club brought some unwarranted abuse on rocky by announcing the permanent signing in the way that they did. He was already a scapegoat and if Kensell knew that (which he clearly did) he should've said nothing about the clause at all.

[Slim Shady]

Club brought some unwarranted abuse on rocky by announcing the permanent signing in the way that they did. He was already a scapegoat and if Kensell knew that (which he clearly did) he should've said nothing about the clause at all.

And last night. Ben has managed to deflect any criticism away from himself or the club.

[Hibbyradge]

And last night. Ben has managed to deflect any criticism away from himself or the club.

By explaining what actually happened?

[Hibernian Verse]

Club brought some unwarranted abuse on rocky by announcing the permanent signing in the way that they did. He was already a scapegoat and if Kensell knew that (which he clearly did) he should've said nothing about the clause at all.

My point is the unwarranted abuse. Anyone with an ounce of humility about them knows that it is unwarranted.

I guess it runs deeper than anything that can be discussed on a football forum, and has more to do with how people are brought up in general.

[stantonhibby]

What a lot of piss.

Why do fans hate me. I haven’t seen any hatred posted towards Rocky.

I have seen fans really pissed off at his sub standard performances, notable being rag dolled off the ball at Tynie that led to a goal.

If you want fans to give you ‘love’ - show the fans what they want.
Fight and win your personal battle on the pitch at all costs.

If you don’t. Someone else behind you will and you will move on.

Which goal at Tynie was that then?

[Hibee Mac]

It was mentioned at a separate point after Kensell had already explained the end of the loan/start of new deal


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWhat did Kensell say at the Q+A about the end of the loan/start of new deal?

EDIT - sorry mate nevermind, just saw your reply to the same question on the other thread

[Hibernian Verse]

Which goal at Tynie was that then?

Think he's confusing him with Hanlon.

Either that or just making something up to prove his point, surely that doesn't happen on Hibs net?

[J-C]

Twitter and FB is toxic but don't represent the majority of our fans. Hibs twitter needs to stop allowing comments to be added.

[Since452]

I have muted probably 50 or 60 people on twitter.

It does make for a better experience.

I should say that nothing on this forum comes anywhere near social media levels of bile towards Hibs.

I was the same. Ended up probably muting more people than i followed then ended up thinking whats the point. Maybe i'm the problem! Anyway glad i got rid of Twitter. It isn't healthy being triggered by idiots all the time.

[DIXIHIBS]

Feel for the big guy. Not shown as much of a player so far but no need for the level of abuse he gets. Many on here saying players should stay off social media but unfortunately its becoming more evident at games. Up at dundee at the end of last season and it was a very poor performance but the level of abuse at certain players was off the scale. One young 'fan' screamed at Macey as he was leaving the ground then high fived his mate after he done it. They seem to think its a laugh...its not. Yes it has always happened to some extent but it really is starting to put some fans off going to games. It might even put players off coming too.

[Jones28]

Which goal at Tynie was that then?

The one that Hanlon was ragdolled off the ball at 😂

[Jones28]

I hope he gets a chance to prove himself with us. Young and raw but has tremendous physical attributes.

Prove the haters wrong big man 👊🏻👊🏻

[Colr]

If Rocky thinks what he sees on Twitter from the vocal minority of windae licking fuds represents the Hibs support at large then that's on him. That said, people that spout absolute ***** are an absolute embarrassment, mainly to themselves.

The kind of people who get invited to a wedding then spend the whole time moaning about the food!

We all have our opinions and share some frustrations but you back the team. You give then your support. If you don’t want to do that, I don’t know what you are!

[Since452]

I guess slating our own players has always happened but social media has given more people a platform to spout their view on a daily basis. My old man told me Joe Tortolano used to get some amount of stick from our own fans during games.

The stick i've seen the likes of Whittaker, Macey, Hanlon, Wright get on the socials is nuts to the point you cringe whwnever Hibs Tweet or post something as you know what's coming. I guess thats the wonderful world we live in now.

[Mr. Wonderful]

My point is the unwarranted abuse. Anyone with an ounce of humility about them knows that it is unwarranted.

I guess it runs deeper than anything that can be discussed on a football forum, and has more to do with how people are brought up in general.

Our fan base on social media are an absolute embarrassment. A lot of very entitled young supporters who've not seen the real hard times. It's a shame the club have to defend players from them but, unfortunately, they do

[Gloucester Hibs]

Never mind the fans, he wasn't exactly shown much love from the club either with the way his signing was announced.

[jacomo]

I'm with you on this Dalmeny.

Good healthy debate and having an opinion is great, but there are around 5 or 6 regular posters on here who constantly criticise our club, players, and our decent posters too.

These posters manage to stay just inside the line for being reported but they regularly bring threads down by spouting their constantly sad pathetic negative pish.

This site would be a much better place for the majority of decent minded supporters if the site admins could clear some of these tossers out.

C'mon the clear out 👍🏻

*Edit, while I'm on a roll with my rant. There used to be a poster on here, a guy who lived in France.
His posts were always worth reading as IMHO he posted lots of good stuff worth reading, and it shone through from his posts that he loved Hibs.

He often tried defending our club and players from the constantly negative crap, but in trying to defend them he got involved in an argument or two and he no longer posts on here. Sad that this site lost a decent supporter like that.

End of rant, I'm getting ready to take my wee mutt a walk to the park.

GGTTH


The poster you are talking about is welcome back imo, but his own behaviour was way out of line at times, with personal attacks from nowhere. Sometimes taking some time off is a good idea.

[Dmas]

Twitter and FB is toxic but don't represent the majority of our fans. Hibs twitter needs to stop allowing comments to be added.

I don’t use FB so can only comment on Twitter and it’s horrific, it’s basically online abuse if any of the posters where subjected to it themselves or heaven forbid their children they’d be phoning the police that’s how bad it is.

I was against the idea of stopping comments on the posts in a previous discussion about it but I think it’s the only option the club has, there can’t be anyone reading the comment on official posts now expecting anything other than abuse or absolute **** patter.

[CapitalGreen]

Club brought some unwarranted abuse on rocky by announcing the permanent signing in the way that they did. He was already a scapegoat and if Kensell knew that (which he clearly did) he should've said nothing about the clause at all.

Yeah because people obviously had no choice but to abuse him. Some Hibs fans need to take personal responsibility for their actions rather than trying to trying to justify it by blaming the actions of others.

[OldEast]

Where's Mr.Oagwible?

[marinello59]

By explaining what actually happened?

What did Kensell say actually happened with the transfer then.

[The dalmeny]

Our fan base on social media are an absolute embarrassment. A lot of very entitled young supporters who've not seen the real hard times. It's a shame the club have to defend players from them but, unfortunately, they do

I got called a 'condescending tube' on twitter from a 'fan' yesterday because I said his comment reflected he was quite young,suppose I got of lightly

[SlickShoes]

If this was Ben at the Q and A it does seem to have been effective in diverting attention away from the issue of whether we ended up signing him because we made the error of playing him in those last two games. 🤔

Hope he goes on to progress and be a Hibee legend.

Ah yes I am sure this was the plan all along to deflect everyone away from the real issue, the big conspiracy continues.

It's not surprising the guy felt the way he did, peoples reactions to hibs re-signing him have been frankly disgusting even on here, I can't imagine what it would be like on Twitter.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Rocky is one of us now. He is part of Hibernian FC. Show him some love and from now on "Eye of the Tiger" should be played every time he appears at Easter Rd...

[Hibbyradge]

Where's Mr.Oagwible?

He rethought his ways and because wonderful.

[J-C]

Where's Mr.Oagwible?

Mr Wonderful now 🤣🤣

[Dmas]

Feel for the big guy. Not shown as much of a player so far but no need for the level of abuse he gets. Many on here saying players should stay off social media but unfortunately its becoming more evident at games. Up at dundee at the end of last season and it was a very poor performance but the level of abuse at certain players was off the scale. One young 'fan' screamed at Macey as he was leaving the ground then high fived his mate after he done it. They seem to think its a laugh...its not. Yes it has always happened to some extent but it really is starting to put some fans off going to games. It might even put players off coming too.

See after the Scottish cup win there was some cracking stuff between players and fans on Twitter fowk where lapping it up it was great, now there’s nothing even remotely close and it’s really no wonder I wouldn’t bother my arse either but these same people who have caused the separation will be howling at the moon about a ‘diconnect’ etc when things aren’t going well, it is a vocal minority of younger guys but it’s putting a lot of people off.

I love using Twitter but I’m considering muting hibs content once the window closes there’s nothing to be gained reading it imo only so long until sponsors etc see the same

[Hibbyradge]

What did Kensell say actually happened with the transfer then.

Callum L posted the following on the other thread;

"There was a difference between the end of the loan date and the start of his contract which is why he was included in the article thanking the loans."

He goes on to say;

"Johnson says regarding development and game time, rocky should be viewed as a 19yr old. Says he’s an absolute beast physically. So strong. But needs a lot of defensive coaching and they will work on him for that. Has all the right attributes."

[EdinMike]

I have Twitter just to read tweets, I daren’t ever read the comments. It just reminds you there are some sad, insecure people out there.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

There is a generation aspect to this I think. For us " older" fans, it's easy perhaps to write this sort of garbage off to sticks and stones. I can remember Alex Ferguson saying that he sought advice from Sir Matt, when he was getting torn apart in newspaper columns in his early Man U days, and the advice was don't read them.

Anything said on social media, "is in my opinion " and what really matters is what happens during the 90 minutes.

That said, we do seem to like a boo-boy and perhaps in that, we are no different to any other club. Now that Matt Macey has left, it leaves a vacancy to be filled . Maybe we should officially re-instate wee Lewis, club legend, just to show how ridiculous this can become.

[LaMotta]

What a lot of piss.

Why do fans hate me. I haven’t seen any hatred posted towards Rocky.

I have seen fans really pissed off at his sub standard performances, notable being rag dolled off the ball at Tynie that led to a goal.

If you want fans to give you ‘love’ - show the fans what they want.
Fight and win your personal battle on the pitch at all costs.

If you don’t. Someone else behind you will and you will move on.

Chris Cadden made the worst error for the goal you are talking about at Tynecastle. There were 3 or 4 players far worse than Rocky that day. Yet Rocky got the brunt of the abuse?

He got widely blamed on here for Morelos goal at Ibrox, despite the fact that Porto was far more at fault. Very strange.

Sometimes once a player gets a reputation amongst fans for being pish, it becomes "gospel" and people jump on a bandwagon and look for reasons to confirm their view. Then it just becomes fun for them to post abuse and snide comments all over social media about how **** they are, presumably to make them feel slightly better about their own unhappy disposition in life.

[Lago]

Really sad to hear this. Some folk simply are not Hibs supporters, regardless of attending games etc. They are pathetic
Agree, it's even beginning to put me off football in general.

[Dmas]

There is a generation aspect to this I think. For us " older" fans, it's easy perhaps to write this sort of garbage off to sticks and stones. I can remember Alex Ferguson saying that he sought advice from Sir Matt, when he was getting torn apart in newspaper columns in his early Man U days, and the advice was don't read them.

Anything said on social media, "is in my opinion " and what really matters is what happens during the 90 minutes.

That said, we do seem to like a boo-boy and perhaps in that, we are no different to any other club. Now that Matt Macey has left, it leaves a vacancy to be filled . Maybe we should officially re-instate wee Lewis, club legend, just to show how ridiculous this can become.

It’s not just a boo boy these days, Macey was getting it as u rightly say but so was drey wright James Scott Rocky every couple weeks how Newell and the. You still had Lewis and Hanlon, that’s a decent chunk of the squad getting constant abuse, demotivated, not just at games sometimes notifications to their phones, I’m aware they’ve probs got wise and turned that off but the nature of the beast suggests that at one stage those guys where getting it whilst sitting at home

[Dmas]

Chris Cadden made the worst error for the goal you are talking about at Tynecastle. There were 3 or 4 players far worse than Rocky that day. Yet Rocky got the brunt of the abuse?

He got widely blamed on here for Morelos goal at Ibrox, despite the fact that Porto was far more at fault. Very strange.

Sometimes once a player gets a reputation amongst fans for being pish, it becomes "gospel" and people jump on a bandwagon and look for reasons to confirm their view. Then it just becomes fun for them to post abuse and snide comments all over social media about how **** they are, presumably to make them feel slightly better about their own unhappy disposition in life.

Rocky wasn’t and isn’t half as bad as a lot of posters will have you believe guy came in from 6months of no football fitness was an issue the whole time but now his confidence is shot to **** and he’ll be a nervous wreck a fine job by our own SUPPORTERS vocal minority or not

[eastmainsmsh]

Think Rocky might do ok under Decent Management

[Weir07]

And last night. Ben has managed to deflect any criticism away from himself or the club.

Call me a cynic but that was my first thought when I heard that our CEO mentioned Rocky asking why the fans hated him. Maybe he should take responsibility for the "less than ringing endorsement" club statement that came out when we signed him, basically said we don't really want you but we're contractually obliged to sign you.

If I were a betting man I'd say Rocky will be away before the end of the window.

Oh, not in any way condoning any abuse BTW, not sure where people get all that hatred from.

[G15 Hibs]

Sometimes once a player gets a reputation amongst fans for being pish, it becomes "gospel" and people jump on a bandwagon and look for reasons to confirm their view. Then it just becomes fun for them to post abuse and snide comments all over social media about how **** they are, presumably to make them feel slightly better about their own unhappy disposition in life.

It's all wee ****ing weirdos on Twitter looking for likes from other wee ****ing weirdos. Must make them feel validated as a person on something. They probably don't even understand if someone is a decent player or not, but just go with whatever's popular with the wee ****ing weirdo crowd at that time. How can these people possibly enjoy life?

[SlickShoes]

It's all wee ****ing weirdos on Twitter looking for likes from other wee ****ing weirdos. Must make them feel validated as a person on something. They probably don't even understand if someone is a decent player or not, but just go with whatever's popular with the wee ****ing weirdo crowd at that time. How can these people possibly enjoy life?

A lot of it is going to be high school age kids that don't even consider the impact of what they say on the internet, just fire something awful up and forget about it.

[Iain G]

Think Rocky might do ok under Decent Management

I like him, very raw but great attitude and think he will do well for us with the right coaching in the right team. Proper cult hero status awaits!

[LaMotta]

Rocky wasn’t and isn’t half as bad as a lot of posters will have you believe guy came in from 6months of no football fitness was an issue the whole time but now his confidence is shot to **** and he’ll be a nervous wreck a fine job by our own SUPPORTERS vocal minority or not


It's all wee ****ing weirdos on Twitter looking for likes from other wee ****ing weirdos. Must make them feel validated as a person on something. They probably don't even understand if someone is a decent player or not, but just go with whatever's popular with the wee ****ing weirdo crowd at that time. How can these people possibly enjoy life?


A lot of it is going to be high school age kids that don't even consider the impact of what they say on the internet, just fire something awful up and forget about it.

:agree::agree::agree:

[CapitalGreen]

Call me a cynic but that was my first thought when I heard that our CEO mentioned Rocky asking why the fans hated him. Maybe he should take responsibility for the "less than ringing endorsement" club statement that came out when we signed him, basically said we don't really want you but we're contractually obliged to sign you.

If I were a betting man I'd say Rocky will be away before the end of the window.

Oh, not in any way condoning any abuse BTW, not sure where people get all that hatred from.

Do you think the abuse only started after that statement came out? Stop trying to deflect away from some Hibs fans being pricks, nobody is forced to be abusive to our own players.

[Victor]

It is a psychological trait that those who initially criticise a course of behaviour, but then provide justification for those who condone it, are generally perpetrators. Just saying.


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[Smartie]

I like him, very raw but great attitude and think he will do well for us with the right coaching in the right team. Proper cult hero status awaits!

Yeah, I also get the feeling now that for every internet bampot who chooses to send him abuse, there are now 10 or so people quietly rooting for him to shut a few people up.

He might not have been brilliant last season but he wasn't the worst player I've ever seen, not by a long shot, and he didn't appear to have any attitude issues to me.

There are a lot of raw materials there, although if Lee Johnson is as gung ho as some seem to suggest, it might not be a comfortable season for any of our defenders.

[CallumLaidlaw]

A couple of comments that Rocky has “liked” on twitter to point out he’s seen them….

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[Just_Jimmy]

I've thought this for a while, and obviously it's anecdotal, but I don't think it's any coincidence at all that we had our best season in a while whilst playing in empty stadiums.

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[MWHIBBIES]

This element of the support developed under Hecky and has never gone away. Disgusting and toxic.

[Victor]

I've thought this for a while, and obviously it's anecdotal, but I don't think it's any coincidence at all that we had our best season in a while whilst playing in empty stadiums.

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[ElginHibbie]

A couple of comments that Rocky has “liked” on twitter to point out he’s seen them….

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Second one classic example of the toxic online behaviour these days, slagging someone off, saying stuff you'd never say to their face, and once found out backing down and acting like you really like the guy.

[evy]

First comment I saw on a fb post about this was 'Stop greeting ffs, they're paid to take negativity'.....sums up the issue for me. Those that abuse the players will continue to do so without thought or feeling as they believe it's right as a football fan to abuse players with not comeback on themselves.

[Northernhibee]

This element of the support developed under Hecky and has never gone away. Disgusting and toxic.

Before that, at Hecky’s first home game a section of the crowd was singing “one Neil Lennon” when he was unveiled and it was heard on a few occasions after that. Always thought that was a very ****ty way to welcome a new manager.

I think as we welcomed thousands more people through the gates on a weekly basis after our cup win there was an element of louts who were inevitably part of it.

[Smartie]

Joe Tortolano (and then others) might argue that it goes back a wee bit further than Hecky.

[Northernhibee]

I’ll be honest, I usually leave my moaning about Hibs for on here as I don’t like that sort of thing at the stadium. I don’t think I’ve ever strayed from just being angry at a performance but it would make me think twice before reacting in a negative manner.

I’m not happy at all about how we’ve handled the signing of him whatsoever but he’s a Hibby, he can’t be accused of giving less than 100% and he has my full support as such.

[The dalmeny]

First comment I saw on a fb post about this was 'Stop greeting ffs, they're paid to take negativity'.....sums up the issue for me. Those that abuse the players will continue to do so without thought or feeling as they believe it's right as a football fan to abuse players with not comeback on themselves.

That rips my knitting

[Mr. Wonderful]

A couple of comments that Rocky has “liked” on twitter to point out he’s seen them….

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I bet neither of them have been to a hibs game in their puff. Probably support some pishy English Premier league team on a Saturday, drinking pimms with a straw

[ian cruise]

Not by me, guaranteed he's a fan favourite by the end of the season.

[Lago]

Joe Tortolano (and then others) might argue that it goes back a wee bit further than Hecky.
Yip add Benny Brazil

[G15 Hibs]

Yip add Benny Brazil

Talk to folk now though and both Super Joe and Benny are remembered with great fondness. Certainly more so than some others of similar eras who were maybe more talented but didn't give everything every time they played like these guys did. Funny how it goes around.

[Gus]

Second one classic example of the toxic online behaviour these days, slagging someone off, saying stuff you'd never say to their face, and once found out backing down and acting like you really like the guy.


2nd comment was me. As Callum shared the posts. There has been MANY toxic tweets from lots and lots of Hibs fans. Not seen these added

Mine was not meant in any malice. There were/are some horrible posts on every single tweet that mentioned him, sadly it's the world we live in and it is unacceptable.

I have seen similar comments as mine on the Matt Macey going to Luton but no threads about that?

I don't know Rocky personally so I can't say whether I would like him or not. I do not think he is good enough but he has been signed even by default so everyone should get behind him & the team & see how LJ gets on.

Twitter can be a horrible place and some posters on here might want to think about their tweets previously on Jack Ross especially

[Gus]

I bet neither of them have been to a hibs game in their puff. Probably support some pishy English Premier league team on a Saturday, drinking pimms with a straw

So you can assume about folk and have an opinion on someone on an online forum........

I can confirm I do not like Pimms

[Mr. Wonderful]

So you can assume about folk and have an opinion on someone on an online forum........

I can confirm I do not like Pimms

You're right that was not fair

[JohnM1875]

I actually despise some of our fans. A 22 year old thinks we hate him cause he's signed. That is absolutely shocking. Feel so bad for the guy.

[Gus]

You're right that was not fair

I do not agree with abuse players/managers anyone gets online or from the terraces.

I don't think there are many Hibs players who didn't receive abuse last season...sadly

Mueller has left & tweeting the stuff he likes to tweet and he's still getting abuse off Hibs fans

Anyway, mine was not meant in the way it's been interpreted.

We move on & get behind the Club and everyone involved

[SaulGoodman]

I do not agree with abuse players/managers anyone gets online or from the terraces.

I don't think there are many Hibs players who didn't receive abuse last season...sadly

Mueller has left & tweeting the stuff he likes to tweet and he's still getting abuse off Hibs fans

Anyway, mine was not meant in the way it's been interpreted.

We move on & get behind the Club and everyone involved

How was it meant to be interpreted?

[ahibby]

I love Rocky, he is a great guy.

[Gus]

How was it meant to be interpreted?

More of a in jest comment similar to folk saying "I'll drive him down myself"

[Jones28]

2nd comment was me. As Callum shared the posts. There has been MANY toxic tweets from lots and lots of Hibs fans. Not seen these added

Mine was not meant in any malice. There were/are some horrible posts on every single tweet that mentioned him, sadly it's the world we live in and it is unacceptable.

I have seen similar comments as mine on the Matt Macey going to Luton but no threads about that?

I don't know Rocky personally so I can't say whether I would like him or not. I do not think he is good enough but he has been signed even by default so everyone should get behind him & the team & see how LJ gets on.

Twitter can be a horrible place and some posters on here might want to think about their tweets previously on Jack Ross especially

Probably cos he isn't a Hibs player anymore?

[Mikey]

For those who were there last night, did it seem at the time that Kensell raised this merely to deflect the heat away from him as is being suggested by some?

[Greenworld]

For those who were there last night, did it seem at the time that Kensell raised this merely to deflect the heat away from him as is being suggested by some?How about we just let it go and move on. Let Rocky get on with his learning and honing his game in the under 23 team.
He is a very young man and it is scandalous how some people are treating him.
I personally think he has a lot of good attributes and hope he progresses and rams it down the throats of the haters.

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[Hibernian Verse]

For those who were there last night, did it seem at the time that Kensell raised this merely to deflect the heat away from him as is being suggested by some?

The answer you get will depend on whether the person likes or dislikes anyone in power at Hibs.

[SHODAN]

I wouldn't be fussed if we kept Bushiri and tried to develop him. He's young and has potential. Can't help but feel though that we're just trying to offload him.

[The Spaceman]

What sad, sad, sad little "men" these people are hounding a 22 year old like that on social media. It is brutal to see when he really hasn't been that bad at all to warrant anything like it.

He has my full backing and those "fans" can stay away from Easter Road forever. Pondlife with nothing better in their lives to do/take their frustrations out on than hate Hibs.

[WhileTheChief..]

I have muted probably 50 or 60 people on twitter.

It does make for a better experience.

I should say that nothing on this forum comes anywhere near social media levels of bile towards Hibs.

Can’t you do the same here? 😜

[Gus]

Probably cos he isn't a Hibs player anymore?

Aye because he received no abuse while he was a Hibs player.

As I said my tweet was injest on a tweet from Hibs announcing the pre season game with Norwich.

NOT on him signing for Hibs on a perm contract

[Jones28]

Aye because he received no abuse while he was a Hibs player.

As I said my tweet was injest on a tweet from Hibs announcing the pre season game with Norwich.

NOT on him signing for Hibs on a perm contract

So ****? He did, but he isn't a Hibs player any more. Frankly he's probably delighted because some of the abuse he took was laughable.

Yes and the player who it was directed found it hilarious, to the point where it has been discussed by the CEO.

Why don't you delete it?

[Greenio]

I like him and think he'll be a good player for us.

I messaged him on Instagram to say ignore the 'fans' on social and to wish him well for the season.

Id encourage everyone else to do the same

[CallumLaidlaw]

For those who were there last night, did it seem at the time that Kensell raised this merely to deflect the heat away from him as is being suggested by some?

I didn’t feel it was an attempt to deflect. He’d already answered the question.


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[SHODAN]

What sad, sad, sad little "men" these people are hounding a 22 year old like that on social media. It is brutal to see when he really hasn't been that bad at all to warrant anything like it.

He has my full backing and those "fans" can stay away from Easter Road forever. Pondlife with nothing better in their lives to do/take their frustrations out on than hate Hibs.

Sadly a lot of people don't have much joy in their lives besides football and this can turn into something very personal at times.

In the early 2010s when I was young and struggling pretty badly with life I would often come out with pretty visceral stuff at ER and on here, which I am in no way proud of. It wasn't excusable then and it still isn't now, but a lot of these people need help in addition to a reality check.

No one should stoop to the level of verbally abusing people they've never met.

[stoneyburn hibs]

What sad, sad, sad little "men" these people are hounding a 22 year old like that on social media. It is brutal to see when he really hasn't been that bad at all to warrant anything like it.

He has my full backing and those "fans" can stay away from Easter Road forever. Pondlife with nothing better in their lives to do/take their frustrations out on than hate Hibs.

Well said
You'll probably find that some of these "fans" have never even set foot in ER.

[Gus]

So ****? He did, but he isn't a Hibs player any more. Frankly he's probably delighted because some of the abuse he took was laughable.

Yes and the player who it was directed found it hilarious, to the point where it has been discussed by the CEO.

Why don't you delete it?

Well until I was told about this thread I didn't know it was an issue nor did I think my tweet was offensive.

When I was told about it this morning I did delete the tweet as offence was not my intention.

The amount of abuse Hibs players got last season was disgusting and personal. Not once was it mentioned by the club.

It has now because been brought up at the Q&A been the manager & CEO, hope they don't read the hundreds of horrible tweets that they were mentioned in.

As I said, offensive, abusive tweets, language is not acceptable.

Hope we see a thread for every time a player is abused next season & people are held accountable as I have been for this.

Infact I hope we don't as it means we are winning games

[Coco Bryce]

I don't know any Hibs fan that 'hates' Rocky Bushiri :confused:

I do however know plenty who don't rate him much as a footballer.

Pathetic behaviour if he has been targeted by our hate mob though.

[Skol]

We always seem to have to have a player we dont like. When I was a lad it was Joe Tortolano or Benny Brazil before that. Last season we hade two in Drey Wright and James Scott.

I like oters find this frustrating and while all the afore mentioned players caused me frustrations, they also had some strengths and good points and at the end of the day are Hibs players. If we get on their back it will affect their confidence and performance.

Bushiri is no different and last season I saw some things to like, but I also knew that there would be a lapse in concentration at some stage. Hopefully this is something he can work on and we find an excellent player on our books

[Sergio sledge]

If this was Ben at the Q and A it does seem to have been effective in diverting attention away from the issue of whether we ended up signing him because we made the error of playing him in those last two games. 🤔

Hope he goes on to progress and be a Hibee legend.

Having read the comments on here and what was actually said, I don't think that the last two games were an issue, he was already past the point of meeting the clause by that point.

From what I can see we had 22 games between him signing and the end of the season. I note that the way it was relayed on here was that if he played in 50% of the games he was available for then the deal would become permanent, so if he'd been available for all those games he just needed to play in 11 of them to meet the criteria.

However he was suspended for 2 games and I seem to recall injured for a couple, depending on the small print he may have been only required to play in 9 or 10 games to trigger the permanent deal.

He played in 15 games. We'd basically have ad to stop playing him before the Dundee game where he was sent off, but IIRC we had a serious defensive injury crisis at the time and his Dundee red card suspension just added to that. We were pushing for top 6 still so I can understand why he was played if they didn't think bringing anyone in from the u-18's would help get into the top 6.

[NC1875]

Not by me, guaranteed he's a fan favourite by the end of the season.

I’m the same. Bassey at Rangers was raw when he signed. But like Rocky, he has all the attributes to be a great player.

He’ll kick on this season and people will be wondering what all the fuss was about.

[Since90+2]

I’m the same. Bassey at Rangers was raw when he signed. But like Rocky, he has all the attributes to be a great player.

He’ll kick on this season and people will be wondering what all the fuss was about.

Personally don't see it, but I hope I'm totally wrong.

[Stairway 2 7]

I'd much rather have a rocky who is developmentally 19 and needing coaching hours, than a mediocre player who has already reached potential. He really shouldn't have started as much initially, but he will come good imo

[Greenworld]

https://theathletic.com/3375656/2022/06/22/rocky-bushiri-hibernian-norwich/

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[Since452]

The guy is 22. 22 for goodness sake. Younger than Ryan Porteous. He's a big unit but he's far from the finished article. I think his size makes him seem older than he is. With the right coaching and support he will develop. He came in to a toiling side in January and was coached by a novice out of his depth manager. I'm not writing him off yet. He's here now lets give the lad a bit of support.

[Hibbyradge]

I bet neither of them have been to a hibs game in their puff. Probably support some pishy English Premier league team on a Saturday, drinking pimms with a straw

Best way to drink it.

[hibsbollah]

Best way to drink it.

Nonsense. Best out of an old shoe, 7 inch Jimmy Choos work well.

[lyonhibs]

Best way to drink it.

Indeed. Bit of ice, hot day, lovely. I can only imagine those doubters have never enjoyed an afternoon/evening on the stuff?

"Oooooh tastes like juice" you foolishly think.

Then you're busy talking to God on the big white telephone 6 hours later and wondering what these pink stains are on your kilt socks.

[SRHibs]

Well until I was told about this thread I didn't know it was an issue nor did I think my tweet was offensive.

When I was told about it this morning I did delete the tweet as offence was not my intention.

The amount of abuse Hibs players got last season was disgusting and personal. Not once was it mentioned by the club.

It has now because been brought up at the Q&A been the manager & CEO, hope they don't read the hundreds of horrible tweets that they were mentioned in.

As I said, offensive, abusive tweets, language is not acceptable.

Hope we see a thread for every time a player is abused next season & people are held accountable as I have been for this.

Infact I hope we don't as it means we are winning games

You do realise you are part of the problem though, right? Just because you didn't use a sweary word doesn't mean that your comment wasn't in poor taste.

You keep saying it's been misinterpreted, but everyone here seems to have read it the same way. Maybe you need to work on your use of language.

[cameronw-hfc]

The fact that people come on here to defend the abuse rocky gets as "nobody hates him he's just crap" is a huge part of the problem. Shut up with the digs, look at the lads twitter likes, he's a Hibs player so just support him no? That's what I do anyway, especially young players

[Malthibby]

It's a modern thing, folk think they can say what they want via a keyboard, so everything from thoughtless to dismissive to malicious and downright nasty becomes normalised & on a bad day
Hibs.net is very reflective of that. Given we are supposed to have a common bond it actually makes it worse & it sickens me to think Rocky has looked at Hibs fans 'views' and sees hate.
I have no common bond with folk who hate and think it's okay to spread bile, or dismiss honest professionals with 'get rid.' Quite frankly it's pathetic.

[Pretty Boy]

I think there is a mountain of things to unpick here.

Firstly justified criticism of a player in a reasoned and measured way is fine. Life would be boring if we all just said every film we saw, band we heard and footballer player we watched was great so as to avoid causing any controversy or upset. Further than that there is explanation if not excuse for the odd outburst either in person at a game or online in the face of a bad result or performance. I'd wager a huge majority on here have done that at some point, football is an irrational and emotive game. Most people quickly move on though and that's as it should be.

None of that should be conflated with sustained, vitriolic abuse that veers into bullying though. Not rating a player is fine, making them feel hated is not. I don't buy into the idea it's a modern phenomena either. The likes of Benny Brazil and Joe Tortolano have already been mentioned on this thread and going back further someone like Joe Harper got it as well. The mentality to single out and hound individuals has existed for decades even if the means to do so hasn't. Social media has exacerbated an existing problem; look at the age of some of the guys who are constantly firing abuse on Hibs Twitter, they aren't all daft young boys, not by a long way.

Finally I think Hibs have to learn from this episode as well. The announcement of Rocky signing was totally lacking in any enthusiasm, even allowing for the fact he was an existing loanee there was no attempt to talk him or the deal up at all. Part of me suspects there was an attempt to mitigate the criticism that was inevitably coming and it backfired. On the other hand by getting Rocky's feelings out there Hibs have done well. A vocal section of the fanbase will now do the right thing and get right behind the guy, he'll get a great reception v Clyde, as he should. I remember a few years back Dirk Lehman was becoming a bit of a target for the boo boys, Hibs announced his father was ill and he had been flying to Germany weekly to see him and the next few games he got a great reception from the fans. We will almost certainly see similar here.

It's a pretty shameful situation that a guy feels like this. Whether I rate him or not as a player is irrelevant. I don't hate him and it's awful he feels like as a collective Hibs fans do.

[Stuart93]

I give out my fair share of negativity on here but I’d never berate/abuse players on Twitter especially players that have just joined.

Thinking of him having to ask BK why the fans hate him is pretty sad.

Very toxic and it would appear some don’t even seem to know when they’re doing. All for the likes, simple as that.

[WeeRussell]

So, is Gus short for Matthew then?

[The dalmeny]

Can’ts like this deserve a slap

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[JohnM1875]

Hibs Twitter just posted a pic of Rocky in training and thankfully it's getting a lot of love.

[Hibbyradge]

Nonsense. Best out of an old shoe, 7 inch Jimmy Choos work well.

Well, yes, but that's because of what comes with it.

[LustForLeith]

Football players should be banned from viewing social media.

As fans we all offer our critique of our players. Sadly, for some, a paucity of vocabulary seems to limit the terms of their critiques to either "brilliant" or "sheight" or variations on the theme.

There is absolutely NO WAY that I Hate Rocky. However, from what I've seen so far he is a limited footballer and on that basis I doubt the wisdom of extending his stay at ER. That said he is certainly a unit! And He's also a young player who will hopefully improve with good coaching. So I'm hopeful he will prove me wrong.

I think my opinion reflects that of most Hibs fans - so Rocky should pay less attention to the social edit haters and know that there are thousands in the stands 100% behind him and aching for him to succeed

Football players shouldn’t be banned from viewing social media

[LustForLeith]

Football players should be banned from viewing social media.

As fans we all offer our critique of our players. Sadly, for some, a paucity of vocabulary seems to limit the terms of their critiques to either "brilliant" or "sheight" or variations on the theme.

There is absolutely NO WAY that I Hate Rocky. However, from what I've seen so far he is a limited footballer and on that basis I doubt the wisdom of extending his stay at ER. That said he is certainly a unit! And He's also a young player who will hopefully improve with good coaching. So I'm hopeful he will prove me wrong.

I think my opinion reflects that of most Hibs fans - so Rocky should pay less attention to the social edit haters and know that there are thousands in the stands 100% behind him and aching for him to succeed

Football players shouldn’t be banned from viewing social media

[Tricla]

I think there is a mountain of things to unpick here.

Firstly justified criticism of a player in a reasoned and measured way is fine. Life would be boring if we all just said every film we saw, band we heard and footballer player we watched was great so as to avoid causing any controversy or upset. Further than that there is explanation if not excuse for the odd outburst either in person at a game or online in the face of a bad result or performance. I'd wager a huge majority on here have done that at some point, football is an irrational and emotive game. Most people quickly move on though and that's as it should be.

None of that should be conflated with sustained, vitriolic abuse that veers into bullying though. Not rating a player is fine, making them feel hated is not. I don't buy into the idea it's a modern phenomena either. The likes of Benny Brazil and Joe Tortolano have already been mentioned on this thread and going back further someone like Joe Harper got it as well. The mentality to single out and hound individuals has existed for decades even if the means to do so hasn't. Social media has exacerbated an existing problem; look at the age of some of the guys who are constantly firing abuse on Hibs Twitter, they aren't all daft young boys, not by a long way.

Finally I think Hibs have to learn from this episode as well. The announcement of Rocky signing was totally lacking in any enthusiasm, even allowing for the fact he was an existing loanee there was no attempt to talk him or the deal up at all. Part of me suspects there was an attempt to mitigate the criticism that was inevitably coming and it backfired. On the other hand by getting Rocky's feelings out there Hibs have done well. A vocal section of the fanbase will now do the right thing and get right behind the guy, he'll get a great reception v Clyde, as he should. I remember a few years back Dirk Lehman was becoming a bit of a target for the boo boys, Hibs announced his father was ill and he had been flying to Germany weekly to see him and the next few games he got a great reception from the fans. We will almost certainly see similar here.

It's a pretty shameful situation that a guy feels like this. Whether I rate him or not as a player is irrelevant. I don't hate him and it's awful he feels like as a collective Hibs fans do.

Can't say it better than that.

[JoeT]

Football players shouldn’t be banned from viewing social media

They should be advised to give it a miss

[Pretty Boy]

They should be advised to give it a miss

I remember taking with George Craig and he said it was suggested to the players that fans forums and Twitter should be avoided.

They are just ordinary guys though so you can understand the temptation to use it for both other things and to see what people are saying about you.

[brianmc]

Can’ts like this deserve a slap

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I just had a read through this clown's Twitter feed.
There's about 3 Hibs tweets (all abusive), multiple racist and sexist stuff, several anti Steve Clarke/Scotland tweets - but far and away the majority of the output is Pro Liverpool FC.......

He's certainly representative of what's wrong with Twitter and society.
Might even be a Hibs fan?

[Gus]

So, is Gus short for Matthew then?

Nickname…..that ok

[Gus]

You do realise you are part of the problem though, right? Just because you didn't use a sweary word doesn't mean that your comment wasn't in poor taste.

You keep saying it's been misinterpreted, but everyone here seems to have read it the same way. Maybe you need to work on your use of language.

Yes in hindsight it was in poor taste but **** me there is literally nothing abusive said.

As I said previously people been tweeting about Macey while he was contracted to Hibs, no thread coz he just been sold, Callum laidlaw shared my tweet and not the ones that actually had wording of an abusive nature…….

Sadly Hibs social media is full of abusive people and a good few in here.

Someone said they’ve been negative about players on here but not on twitter…….I never tagged him in and folk are naive if they think players don’t read stuff on here

It was on .net so it’s ok?? What about the podcasts putting polls up about Hibs worst strikers/players…..opens up discussions

I do apologise for any offence caused

[A Hi-Bee]

IMHO, this is another sad reflection on all this crap that goes by the name of social media that also allows anyone and everyone to have an opinion, all very good but as old Adolf knew many years ago if you say something, no matter how hurtful or wrong, enough times it starts to become a fact. If you aint got nothing good to say then just shut the **** up, dont say anything, as sometimes silence speaks volumes as well.
As for this young Hibs man I hope he has a great season and he will always have my support as a Hibs player.

[heid the baw]

Reading twitter debates is akin watching 2 ugly bald men fight to the death over a comb in a gutter overflowing with human excrement. Toxic nonsense to be avoided at all cost.

[Bostonhibby]

Twats and not what I regard as Hibbies, every one of them.

Rocky gets the same chance and respect as every one else once the jerseys on as far as I am concerned from now


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[CraigHibee]

I just had a read through this clown's Twitter feed.
There's about 3 Hibs tweets (all abusive), multiple racist and sexist stuff, several anti Steve Clarke/Scotland tweets - but far and away the majority of the output is Pro Liverpool FC.......

He's certainly representative of what's wrong with Twitter and society.
Might even be a Hibs fan?

boy sounds like an absolute roaster

[CraigHibee]

Can’ts like this deserve a slap

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not shocked at some of the comments on there, I'm surprised folk like that know how to use a digital device

[Since452]

I just had a read through this clown's Twitter feed.
There's about 3 Hibs tweets (all abusive), multiple racist and sexist stuff, several anti Steve Clarke/Scotland tweets - but far and away the majority of the output is Pro Liverpool FC.......

He's certainly representative of what's wrong with Twitter and society.
Might even be a Hibs fan?

Sounds a great guy who I'd like to have a beer with. Bet he's great fun.

[Stokesy's on fire]

You know what theres been a lot of discussion here regarding Bushiri but just wanted to mention that my daughter absolutely adores Bushiri and she was even lucky enough to get her photo taken with him a moment she holds close to her heart. When Hibs initially announced Bushiri was retruning to Norwich After his loan deal she was gutted about it but when the club announced he was then staying she was over the moon but what stood out about him was how nice he was he actually thanked us for going to Arbroath and chatted away...he's a decent man and one that cares i hope he smashes it next season and proves his doubters wrong.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Yes in hindsight it was in poor taste but **** me there is literally nothing abusive said.

As I said previously people been tweeting about Macey while he was contracted to Hibs, no thread coz he just been sold, Callum laidlaw shared my tweet and not the ones that actually had wording of an abusive nature…….

Sadly Hibs social media is full of abusive people and a good few in here.

Someone said they’ve been negative about players on here but not on twitter…….I never tagged him in and folk are naive if they think players don’t read stuff on here

It was on .net so it’s ok?? What about the podcasts putting polls up about Hibs worst strikers/players…..opens up discussions

I do apologise for any offence caused

Only reason I shared yours mate is because Rocky had liked it.


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[Gus]

Only reason I shared yours mate is because Rocky had liked it.


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Fair enough, which actually makes it look worse on me and I sent the apology straight away. He wasn’t tagged in the post and all the posts that were aimed at him with awful language etc that he was tagged in clearly had an impact on him.

For any part i played in that I am sorry.

Next season will be interesting to see what gets posted on SM and more importantly on this site when players have a bad game etc…..it’ll be toxic

Sadly

[WeeRussell]

Nickname…..that ok

Of course it’s okay. I think you interpreted my post the wrong way.

[Greencore]

Gets abuse
Complains to hibs about fans
Signs a longterm deal with us


?????

[Gus]

Of course it’s okay. I think you interpreted my post the wrong way.

Nae bother, easily done…

[bawheid]

Fair enough, which actually makes it look worse on me and I sent the apology straight away. He wasn’t tagged in the post and all the posts that were aimed at him with awful language etc that he was tagged in clearly had an impact on him.

For any part i played in that I am sorry.

Next season will be interesting to see what gets posted on SM and more importantly on this site when players have a bad game etc…..it’ll be toxic

Sadly

To be fair to you, you are coming across as contrite here so I hope you have learned a wee lesson. Just because you didn’t tag him in your unsupportive and really quite, well.. shan… tweet, it doesn’t mean it wouldn’t appear across his screen.

He’s a young guy living in a foreign country trying to make his way in the game at our club. He has loads of good attributes (including his personality btw) and has every chance to become a good Hibs player. He deserves the support of the Hibs fans.

Sadly most of the utter lowlifes who post this stuff on Twitter don’t have either the brain power, patience or concentration span to read through this thread and realise the error of their ways / begin to understand the damage they do.

[Gus]

To be fair to you, you are coming across as contrite here so I hope you have learned a wee lesson. Just because you didn’t tag him in your unsupportive and really quite, well.. shan… tweet, it doesn’t mean it wouldn’t appear across his screen.

He’s a young guy living in a foreign country trying to make his way in the game at our club. He has loads of good attributes (including his personality btw) and has every chance to become a good Hibs player. He deserves the support of the Hibs fans.

Sadly most of the utter lowlifes who post this stuff on Twitter don’t have either the brain power, patience or concentration span to read through this thread and realise the error of their ways / begin to understand the damage they do.

It definitely was not my intention to cause the lad any harm and I do apologise for that.

Sadly there are hundreds of tweets and I imagine posts on this very site lambasting players professionally, maybe after this people will think differently before they post, I will.

[AdidasHibernian]

Must admit I certainly wasn't ecstatic when we signed him as thought he was pretty poor last year especially towards end of season, however I would never in a million years hurl abuse at him to the point where it borders on hate, never in a million years.

Hope the big man proves me and more importantly a large section of out toxic fanbase wrong.

[MWHIBBIES]

Gets abuse
Complains to hibs about fans
Signs a longterm deal with us


?????

If its a case of a clause being triggered, the long term deal would've been agreed in January, while these welts were busy abusing someone else.

Also, really, is that your view? Nothing about the abuse being unacceptable, just that he shouldn't have joined?

[Greencore]

if its a case of a clause being triggered, the long term deal would've been agreed in january, while these welts were busy abusing someone else.

Also, really, is that your view? Nothing about the abuse being unacceptable, just that he shouldn't have joined?

lol

[Dalianwanda]

Gets abuse
Complains to hibs about fans
Signs a longterm deal with us


?????

hhmmm…so let the bullies win & give up on a agreement he signed in good faith months ago. The abusers aren’t fans, just the opposite.

[Greencore]

hhmmm…so let the bullies win & give up on a agreement he signed in good faith months ago. The abusers aren’t fans, just the opposite.

Well yeah,

No way would I sign for a club who's fans made me feel
like ****. Why would I?

If the deal was signed months before this took place, then ignore my post.

[mcohibs]

Twitter is unfortunately full of absolute virgins who care more about how much engagement their tweets get than how well their football team is performing.

You could argue to some extent that social media gives fans an opportunity to influence player confidence in a positive way, which in turn can actually help the team overall. Seldom is it used for that however and the opposite is more often the case.

If I was a player I'd be absolutely nowhere near Twitter, it's vile.

[Mick O'Rourke]

Must admit I certainly wasn't ecstatic when we signed him as thought he was pretty poor last year especially towards end of season, however I would never in a million years hurl abuse at him to the point where it borders on hate, never in a million years.
ers
Hope the big man proves me and more importantly a large section of out toxic fanbase wrong.

What does that phrase mean?
If "fanbase" equates to regular attenders/season ticket holders.
That is a "large section" 10.000 plus at present. Strange way to describe a faithful support.

I back Rocky to come out fighting next season !

[Dalianwanda]

Well yeah,

No way would I sign for a club who's fans made me feel
like ****. Why would I?

If the deal was signed months before this took place, then ignore my post.

Do you think Hibs are the only club that has morons in their support? Should he have just suffered in silence and never brought it up?

Running away from things just let’s them win. Hats off to him for confiding with others how he was feeling.

By sharing how he feels hopefully a few will take stock in terms of how their behaviour negatively effects others. From comments Ive seen that seems to be the case.

[Since452]

He's had a lot of support and positive comments on social media over the last day or two so i'm quite glad it came out. Will give him a bit of a boost.

[flash]

The club really need to start blocking folk on twitter.

[The_Exile]

It's always the absolute roasters of humanity that shout the loudest. Maybe the silent intelligent majority need to start speaking up and drowning these cowards out.

[SChibs]

Serious question, what do the folk who comment bad stuff about players on social media think it's going to achieve. If anything it will make the players worse through a lack of confidence.

I'd love to see how the trolls would react if a customer at their work place came in and started telling them how crap they are at their job and how useless they are.

[Kato]

Serious question, what do the folk who comment bad stuff about players on social media think it's going to achieve.

Assuming they think, that's am error right there.

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[CentreLine]

Serious question, what do the folk who comment bad stuff about players on social media think it's going to achieve. If anything it will make the players worse through a lack of confidence.

I'd love to see how the trolls would react if a customer at their work place came in and started telling them how crap they are at their job and how useless they are.

I suspect that is exactly their motivation.

Supporters should be exactly that. We now have supporters, fans and abusers. I know where I’d like to see people get back to

[Shrekko]

The club really need to start blocking folk on twitter.

Totally agree.

Not just because of the unwarranted abuse heaped on players and other staff but the effect it might have on sponsors. Every single time they announce a new corporate partner there is nothing but negativity in the comments- who want's that?

[mcohibs]

The club really need to start blocking folk on twitter.

Wouldn't be surprised if they disable replies soon to be honest. Might just be for the best.

I'd also like to see someone from the club, doesn't have to be a player, coming out and calling out this kind of thing online, it's getting beyond a joke.

[CapitalGreen]

Wouldn't be surprised if they disable replies soon to be honest. Might just be for the best.

I'd also like to see someone from the club, doesn't have to be a player, coming out and calling out this kind of thing online, it's getting beyond a joke.

They already have on some Instagram posts.

[jacomo]

Serious question, what do the folk who comment bad stuff about players on social media think it's going to achieve. If anything it will make the players worse through a lack of confidence.

I'd love to see how the trolls would react if a customer at their work place came in and started telling them how crap they are at their job and how useless they are.


As Katie Hopkins and other vile individuals have learned, social media is not designed to promote moderate, nuanced views. It’s designed to provoke extreme reactions and outrage, because that = ‘engagement’ and that’s all the companies care about.

Folk are desperate to get noticed and will sink very, very low if needs be to achieve that.

[007]

The club really need to start blocking folk on twitter.

Agreed.

[Lago]

Agreed.
I totally agree

[147lothian]

The club really need to start blocking folk on twitter.

Agreed.

I must admit I thought Rocky was outstanding when he first arrived, especially at bringing the ball out of defense and strolling forward, he looked a bit out of sorts at times at the end of last season, but folk need to remember he's a young lad learning his trade.

I have a lot of hope that he is going to develop into a top defender, he has all the attributes in the modern game, but the last thing he needs after a mistake is folk going onto twitter to get on his back, that would do nothing for his confidence, twitter should be banned from the club, no-one should be able to send messages to players especially younger ones.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Fair enough, which actually makes it look worse on me and I sent the apology straight away. He wasn’t tagged in the post and all the posts that were aimed at him with awful language etc that he was tagged in clearly had an impact on him.

For any part i played in that I am sorry.

Next season will be interesting to see what gets posted on SM and more importantly on this site when players have a bad game etc…..it’ll be toxic

Sadly

To be fair to you, there’s plenty posters on this thread (myself included) who said much worse last season about our players, managers and board.

It’s really lacking in self awareness from them when you’re being held up as an example of a total knob by some posters when a quick look through their posting history would show much worse comments from themselves.

[loanheadhibby]

Agreed.

I must admit I thought Rocky was outstanding when he first arrived, especially at bringing the ball out of defense and strolling forward, he looked a bit out of sorts at times at the end of last season, but folk need to remember he's a young lad learning his trade.

I have a lot of hope that he is going to develop into a top defender, he has all the attributes in the modern game, but the last thing he needs after a mistake is folk going onto twitter to get on his back, that would do nothing for his confidence, twitter should be banned from the club, no-one should be able to send messages to players especially younger ones.
You reckon Rocky was outstanding when he first arrived.
Surely you are joking.
He was very shaky most games and stupidly got sent off in one. Personally I was amazed when we signed him.
Hopefully I'm proved wrong.

[Mutu]

You reckon Rocky was outstanding when he first arrived.
Surely you are joking.
He was very shaky most games and stupidly got sent off in one. Personally I was amazed when we signed him.
Hopefully I'm proved wrong.

First game I saw him was Motherwell away where he had Van Veen in his pocket.

Clearly has potential.

[brydekirk]

Had a decent game against Hartlepool

[eastmainsmsh]

Think he will do well as it was uninspiring under Maloney a lot of players didn’t look comfortable with his style of play

[LustForLeith]

Hibs fans could be the most toxic in the country

[Scottie]

I think the big fella is gonna be a revelation this season for us. Nae nonsense. Now we have a manager thats tried and tested Rocky will only flourish. :aok:

[Hibiza]

All the best Rocky sur .

[Dalianwanda]

Hibs fans could be the most toxic in the country

Take it you never looked on The Rangers Media Forum……next level