Another own goal by the club

[Eyrie]

McGinn was a good solid player for us, so he goes with my best wishes.

However I was surprised that he'd left so soon after the club announced he was staying. I checked back on the official website and couldn't find the story, but I did find a link on Twitter (https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1532270879123689472). So I clicked on the link and the original story (https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/paul-mcginn-to-remain-at-hibs) has been removed.

Our PR operation needs shaken up. Why was McGinn staying announced if he wasn't in Johnson's plans? And now that he's leaving less than three weeks later, why the need to delete the original announcement?

It's the second part that's annoyed me enough to post, coming as it does after we announced Bushiri was leaving, then announced he was staying in a way that made him look unwanted.

[CapitalGreen]

McGinn took up his option to extend his contract after he played a certain number of games. Do you think we shouldn’t have made that public? How would you have explained him arriving at preseason training after his contract had supposedly expired?

[Since452]

I think it was announced before LJ made a decision on him. That would be my guess anyway. Don't really see it as a big deal.

[Big_Franck]

Did the club announce McGinn was staying or just that a clause had been triggered that gave him another year? It doesn't sound like the club had any choice in McGinn's one year extension, it sounded like he choose to extend it after he met an appearance clause in his previous contract.

The Bushiri one is clearly a big **** up by the club and I really wouldn't be surprised to see him punted out on loan on the last day of the window after we've signed 2 or 3 defenders.

[Blaster]

This has been done to death. His extension was triggered weeks before it was announced. Hibs had to announce it at some point as he may have stayed if nobody else wanted to sign him.

[CL0762]

I wonder if one day, just one day people will stop having a go at the club.

It’s been well reported that McGinn triggered the option himself giving him the security of a contract.

Just because we announced it when we did, doesn’t mean that’s when it was triggered. Johnson wasn’t the manager when it was triggered.

The. End.

[HoboHarry]

This has been done to death. His extension was triggered weeks before it was announced. Hibs had to announce it at some point as he may have stayed if nobody else wanted to sign him.
There's times this site reminds me of the movie 50 First Dates.

[McD]

There's times this site reminds me of the movie 50 First Dates.


aye I think some folk live under a rock, and when they occasionally come out it’s all guns blazing for the club

[Eyrie]

I'm usually supportive of what the club does.

Minor point - McGinn got a contract with Motherwell less than three weeks after Hibs announced his extension. So it's reasonable to assume he could have signed for them earlier and we wouldn't have had to announce anything.

Major point - Hibs are obviously far more concerned about this than .net posters, otherwise they wouldn't have deleted the story about him staying.

Anyone care to comment on the major point?

[Hibernian Verse]

Yawn. It’s getting tedious now.

[HH81]

McGinn clearly wanted to leave.

He was good for Hibs but things change in football. Thought he triggered a new contract so it's not the same as us offering him a new deal.

[B.H.F.C]

I'm usually supportive of what the club does.

Minor point - McGinn got a contract with Motherwell less than three weeks after Hibs announced his extension. So it's reasonable to assume he could have signed for them earlier and we wouldn't have had to announce anything.

Major point - Hibs are obviously far more concerned about this than .net posters, otherwise they wouldn't have deleted the story about him staying.

Anyone care to comment on the major point?

I don’t think the major point is anything major really. Hibs said what was true at the time, that he’d triggered an option to extend his deal. They’ve replaced an out of date story about the player with an up to date one, that’s about it for me.

Think we’ve actually done well here to move on a player quickly that the manager didn’t want.

[Since452]

Paul is the model professional. He quite rightly triggered the clause in his contract which gave him a bit of security. We would all do the same. A new manager has come in and said he isn't in his plans and Paul has said fair enough. Got himself a good move. Probably with the help of people at the club. No issue for me.

[Colinton Hibby]

God sake - wind your neck in. Support the club or shut up. Sick to death of all this negativity.

[Rob]

Did the club announce McGinn was staying or just that a clause had been triggered that gave him another year? It doesn't sound like the club had any choice in McGinn's one year extension, it sounded like he choose to extend it after he met an appearance clause in his previous contract.

The Bushiri one is clearly a big **** up by the club and I really wouldn't be surprised to see him punted out on loan on the last day of the window after we've signed 2 or 3 defenders.
That's certainly my understanding on the McGinn situation, and I'm sure most others get this as well. A few still trying to make out that we somehow messed up though.

[H18 SFR]

McGinn was a good solid player for us, so he goes with my best wishes.

However I was surprised that he'd left so soon after the club announced he was staying. I checked back on the official website and couldn't find the story, but I did find a link on Twitter (https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1532270879123689472). So I clicked on the link and the original story (https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/paul-mcginn-to-remain-at-hibs) has been removed.

Our PR operation needs shaken up. Why was McGinn staying announced if he wasn't in Johnson's plans? And now that he's leaving less than three weeks later, why the need to delete the original announcement?

It's the second part that's annoyed me enough to post, coming as it does after we announced Bushiri was leaving, then announced he was staying in a way that made him look unwanted.

I suspect this is attention seeking behaviour.

[JimBHibees]

aye I think some folk live under a rock, and when they occasionally come out it’s all guns blazing for the club

Yams all over this place

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Looks like the club gave McGinn a heads you win tails you win option. Honoured the option for a year extension while at the same time, didn't make it difficult for him to move away if that was his choice.

[May21/05/216]

McGinn was a good solid player for us, so he goes with my best wishes.

However I was surprised that he'd left so soon after the club announced he was staying. I checked back on the official website and couldn't find the story, but I did find a link on Twitter (https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1532270879123689472). So I clicked on the link and the original story (https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/paul-mcginn-to-remain-at-hibs) has been removed.

Our PR operation needs shaken up. Why was McGinn staying announced if he wasn't in Johnson's plans? And now that he's leaving less than three weeks later, why the need to delete the original announcement?

It's the second part that's annoyed me enough to post, coming as it does after we announced Bushiri was leaving, then announced he was staying in a way that made him look unwanted.Jambo

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[SlickShoes]

I'm usually supportive of what the club does.

Minor point - McGinn got a contract with Motherwell less than three weeks after Hibs announced his extension. So it's reasonable to assume he could have signed for them earlier and we wouldn't have had to announce anything.

Major point - Hibs are obviously far more concerned about this than .net posters, otherwise they wouldn't have deleted the story about him staying.

Anyone care to comment on the major point?

Why would you leave the story up after the player has departed? it's no longer relevant, and it's recent enough for whoever is doing the website to easily remove it.

There is no big conspiracy at hibs, however much some folk on here want there to be.

[Capt Mainwaring]

Paul is the model professional. He quite rightly triggered the clause in his contract which gave him a bit of security. We would all do the same. A new manager has come in and said he isn't in his plans and Paul has said fair enough. Got himself a good move. Probably with the help of people at the club. No issue for me.

This is it - in a nutshell. No “major” issue at all as some are suggesting

I’d have probably liked McGinn to stay. A 7/10 consistent performer and useful as a versatile back up squad player, but if his departure can free budget to secure an upgraded Right Back then fine by me. We have to aspire to better than McGinn in our starting XI

[Mcbizz1998]

Lot of abuse for the OP but I tend to agree. It looks amateurish. And if you don’t understand why then look at the red tops reporting of PM’s departure online.

All going on about him leaving just after signing a new contract etc. There may be reasons for the way it’s done but the management of how it’s perceived and reported is poor. Exactly the same with Rocky - it’s now been widely accepted that he was signed “by accident”. The club need to get better at how they present information, it will be interpreted by people who don’t have the clubs interests at heart and the truth can very quickly be lost if not managed properly.

[Stuart93]

God sake - wind your neck in. Support the club or shut up. Sick to death of all this negativity.

Aye I agree.

Be positive all the time about everything hibs do or delete your account.

[loanheadhibby]

This is it - in a nutshell. No “major” issue at all as some are suggesting

I’d have probably liked McGinn to stay. A 7/10 consistent performer and useful as a versatile back up squad player, but if his departure can free budget to secure an upgraded Right Back then fine by me. We have to aspire to better than McGinn in our starting XI
7/10 I think you're flattering him.

[HoboHarry]

I'm usually supportive of what the club does.

Minor point - McGinn got a contract with Motherwell less than three weeks after Hibs announced his extension. So it's reasonable to assume he could have signed for them earlier and we wouldn't have had to announce anything.

Major point - Hibs are obviously far more concerned about this than .net posters, otherwise they wouldn't have deleted the story about him staying.

Anyone care to comment on the major point?
Naw.

[judas]

Jambo

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You’re a Jambo chimp. Not fooling anyone.

[Unseen work]

Really don’t see the big deal.

[Swedish hibee]

McGinn thanked the club, so whats the thread all about?
I liked Mcginn senior and wish him all the best but not against us!

[Eyrie]

Interesting replies, particularly those that went straight to personal insults rather than engage with my questions. Given my posting history, that says far more about them than it does me or my original post.

A few posters offer an explanation of how events progressed.

Only a couple of posters commented on the unnecessary removal of the story.

[MelbourneHibees]

McGinn was a good solid player for us, so he goes with my best wishes.

However I was surprised that he'd left so soon after the club announced he was staying. I checked back on the official website and couldn't find the story, but I did find a link on Twitter (https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1532270879123689472). So I clicked on the link and the original story (https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/paul-mcginn-to-remain-at-hibs) has been removed.

Our PR operation needs shaken up. Why was McGinn staying announced if he wasn't in Johnson's plans? And now that he's leaving less than three weeks later, why the need to delete the original announcement?

It's the second part that's annoyed me enough to post, coming as it does after we announced Bushiri was leaving, then announced he was staying in a way that made him look unwanted.

I've actually had a similar situation before. I can't remember what article I was looking for but I searched everywhere I could on the site and came to the conclusion that because it hadn't aged well the club or web admin decided to just remove it. This was easily 5 years ago though, at least!

[ekhibee]

McGinn was alright, nothing more nothing less. Good luck to him as he's a good professional but hardly irreplaceable IMO.

[Callum_62]

Lot of abuse for the OP but I tend to agree. It looks amateurish. And if you don’t understand why then look at the red tops reporting of PM’s departure online.

All going on about him leaving just after signing a new contract etc. There may be reasons for the way it’s done but the management of how it’s perceived and reported is poor. Exactly the same with Rocky - it’s now been widely accepted that he was signed “by accident”. The club need to get better at how they present information, it will be interpreted by people who don’t have the clubs interests at heart and the truth can very quickly be lost if not managed properly.Widely accepted by whom?

I think there will be a few that latch onto the 'by accident' line but I'd be amazing if that's anywhere near the majority of fans

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[green day]

Interesting replies, particularly those that went straight to personal insults rather than engage with my questions. Given my posting history, that says far more about them than it does me or my original post.

A few posters offer an explanation of how events progressed.

Only a couple of posters commented on the unnecessary removal of the story.

I'm not quite sure that you (or the papers) understand that PM took up the option of an extension for himself.

We then announced it.....because not to do so would be bizarre.

Motherwell had wanted him since Jan, and made him an offer so we let him go as he would have been backup at best for us.

There is nothing either untoward or embarrassing about it.

I think some people have too much time on their hands tbqhwy.

[May21/05/216]

You’re a Jambo chimp. Not fooling anyone.A tad harsh
Like your forum name

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[hibbydog]

The type font used on the club website for this announcement was also unacceptable. I can’t understand how we can attract good players when we use Arial font.

Embarrassing

[lyonhibs]

Interesting replies, particularly those that went straight to personal insults rather than engage with my questions. Given my posting history, that says far more about them than it does me or my original post.

A few posters offer an explanation of how events progressed.

Only a couple of posters commented on the unnecessary removal of the story.

Not strictly necessary removal of the story that's really no big deal whatsoever you mean? I admire that you've got the time to do the research though 😅

[Brightside]

McGinn was a good solid player for us, so he goes with my best wishes.

However I was surprised that he'd left so soon after the club announced he was staying. I checked back on the official website and couldn't find the story, but I did find a link on Twitter (https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1532270879123689472). So I clicked on the link and the original story (https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/paul-mcginn-to-remain-at-hibs) has been removed.

Our PR operation needs shaken up. Why was McGinn staying announced if he wasn't in Johnson's plans? And now that he's leaving less than three weeks later, why the need to delete the original announcement?

It's the second part that's annoyed me enough to post, coming as it does after we announced Bushiri was leaving, then announced he was staying in a way that made him look unwanted.

Sorry but this post is a bit of an own goal. This was all done properly for McGinn.

[WestStandWillie]

Are there any other McGinns that we’ve not signed? Maybe a cousin Elrod?

[Greenworld]

Yet mginn thanked Hibernian for the way the handled everything and how understanding they have been.
Sounds like anything but a shambles.
We have a new manager building his team players leaving players coming but fans are screaming blue murder without a ball being kicked .
It's ridiculous

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[CapitalGreen]

Yet mginn thanked Hibernian for the way the handled everything and how understanding they have been.
Sounds like anything but a shambles.
We have a new manager building his team players leaving players coming but fans are screaming blue murder without a ball being kicked .
It's ridiculous

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I imagine when McGinn was negotiating his deal with Motherwell he will have had a much stronger hand in those negotiations still being under contract at Hibs than had he been a free agent. It was a no brainer for him to activate the extra year even if he knew he might move on.

[nonshinyfinish]

The type font used on the club website for this announcement was also unacceptable. I can’t understand how we can attract good players when we use Arial font.

Embarrassing

It's not Arial – pretty sure it's Chantilly Medium (https://www.fontspring.com/fonts/fontsite/chantilly/chantilly-medium).

You're right that it's embarrassing though – 'medium' is just a polite way of saying bang average. I'm furious.

[One Day Soon]

God sake - wind your neck in. Support the club or shut up. Sick to death of all this negativity.


I'm not sure you've quite grasped the purpose of a supporters message board.

[lyonhibs]

I'm not sure you've quite grasped the purpose of a supporters message board.

Shut up, wind your neck in etc etc

[WhileTheChief..]

God sake - wind your neck in. Support the club or shut up. Sick to death of all this negativity.

Ooft! after 10 years as a member this is what you come out with?!!

Where's your positivity been the last decade? Nothing stopping you having your say instead of a dig at those who do contribute.