What would you consider a successful season?

[matty_f]

With pre-season three days old and the first friendly a little over a week ago, what would you consider to be a successful season?

I’d go for European qualification through a 3rd or 4th finish and minimum of each cup semi final.

[bingo70]

4th or above in the league.

Good cup runs.

Enjoy going to the games as we’re playing on the front foot, scoring loads of goals and playing with lots of energy.

Some good results against Hearts and the old firm sides.

[007]

Getting to the end of the season with the same manager that started it. 😃

[Keith_M]

Winning the League, the Scottish Cup and the League Cup, while playing outrageously attractive football in front of sell-out crowds and beating Hearts four times in the league and once in each of the Cups.


Anything else is just not acceptable.

[hibee-boys]

Qualifying for Europe in the league, irrespective of position, and at least 1 visit to Hampden should be our minimum aim each season.

[RyeSloan]

Getting to the end of the season with the same manager that started it. [emoji2]

Probably about right that! [emoji106]

[B.H.F.C]

European qualification and actually enjoying the games again. Getting the upper hand in the derby games.

[HH81]

4th or above in the league.

Good cup runs.

Enjoy going to the games as we’re playing on the front foot, scoring loads of goals and playing with lots of energy.

Some good results against Hearts and the old firm sides.

This.

[Northernhibee]

This year, in the context of last season?

Top six with a feeling of enjoying going to watch Hibs again.

[Stuart93]

Think after last season I’d be happy with getting back up towards top 4.

Making hampden is always good but guess it depends on our run getting there.

[Gordy M]

It changes as the season goes, if we are 3rd up until say Feb, then finish 4th folk will be upset, if we get to semi finals/final and get beat of say Killie , Livi etc or Hearts, again folk will be upset/angry as we saw under Ross. Its just the way of football fans the world over. Expectations change as the season goes on.

[Sir David Gray]

3rd place in the league and getting as far as we can in both cups until we face Celtic or Rangers (hopefully beat them too obviously but we should be looking to win every other cup tie that we play).

Also winning more than 50% of the points on offer in the derbies would be nice too i.e. at least five points if there's three derbies or seven points if there's four derbies.

[Mikey_1875]

For something measurable I would say Europe and a visit to Hampden.

Really though I just want to get the feel good factor back at Easter Road and be entertained in the majority of games. The two can go hand in hand of course!

[Greencore]

3rd and one semi final

[Wakeyhibee]

3rd and 2 x semi final appearances min, means we've beat our realistic rivals in the league. Cups draw depending

4th is still a v good season but successful? I'm not sure.

[The Modfather]

A team that is enjoyable to watch, with pace, energy and players actually running ahead of the ball.

[Paulie Walnuts]

A team that is enjoyable to watch, with pace, energy and players actually running ahead of the ball.

This. That would be the biggest success for me this season after how pish I’ve thought the last few years have been to watch.

[bod]

Both semis & if not 3rd then within 10 points away from whoever is

[A Hi-Bee]

A team that is enjoyable to watch, with pace, energy and players actually running ahead of the ball.

:top marks Sounds pretty good, with perhaps a European visit at the end along with one of them cups, would do for me.
GGTTH

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[Jones28]

Europe and cup runs. Winning one is incredible. But we’ve established ourselves as a good cup team. Semis and finals do count for something imo, even if you don’t win. Lots a variables though

[Key West]

Watching a team that was entertaining with a sense of balance and shape, young players getting closer to fulfilling their potential and giving the support something positive to talk about from game to game especially against teams with inferior or equal resources.

[Dr What If?]

I want one of those wee tin pots we play for each season.....just one of the three would be fine, not greedy.

[Dashing Bob S]

Too three and a cup

[Eyrie]

Based on our history, either third or a cup win is successful.

In an ideal world, we'd be unbeaten all season, win the treble and get the Ugly Sisters kicked out of Scottish football.

[lugz]

Top 4 or winning a cup. Give me cup glory every time though.

[Mr. Wonderful]

A successful season for me.

A good home record, wins against our closest rivals and a nice rendition of SOL

Goals scored increased substantially.

Fans and players appreciating each other.

Two or three stand out players who fans love to watch/rave about

European placed finish

Good go at the cups

Feel good factor returned

[The Spaceman]

4th with attractive football should be our goal this season.

Cups are a bonus - we’ve been a brilliant cup team for a number of years, but can’t have that every season.

[Jim44]

At least 4th, plus a semi and hopefully a final. Anything short of fifth place is unacceptable.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Top six.

[Steve20]

Success in the league - top 3 finish. 4th minimum.
Cups - only winning them is success. This whole attitude of ‘getting to a final’ or ‘have a good cup run’ isn’t success. A day out at Hampden is garbage when you lose.
Football that’s good to watch. Not the slow predictable eye bleeding stuff we’ve had in recent years.

So - Top 4, win a trophy and entertain the fans.

[Johnny_Leith]

Winning a cup, finishing top, some wins over hearts, Aberdeen and the OF and European qualification.

[Mcbizz1998]

Top 4, Scottish cup semi (minimum) and get at least a couple of wins against those mutants from the pink side of Edinburgh.

And I guess also a reconnect with the team/manager and the fans like the Lennon/Stubbs days.

Here’s hoping [emoji1696] [emoji172]

[jacomo]

4th with attractive football should be our goal this season.

Cups are a bonus - we’ve been a brilliant cup team for a number of years, but can’t have that every season.


:agree:

[SChibs]

Top four if no cup win. Top 10 if we win a cup.

In teams of the cup competitions it really depends on who we play. If we knock out Celtic, Rangers and Hearts on the way to losing to Aberdeen in the final that's not a bad cup run. If we beat smaller teams we should expect to beat then it's a different story

[WhileTheChief..]

For this season, qualifying for Europe and getting to a semi final would be amazing.

It's going to be tough though. I think Hearts and Aberdeen will be stronger than us, and expect us to finish 5th or 6th at best.

[MWHIBBIES]

For this season, qualifying for Europe and getting to a semi final would be amazing.

It's going to be tough though. I think Hearts and Aberdeen will be stronger than us, and expect us to finish 5th or 6th at best.

Aberdeen have a poor manager despite having good funds. They'll drop plenty points imo. Europe may hurt Hearts league form too. Hopefully we are right in that mix for top 4.

[Gordy M]

For this season, qualifying for Europe and getting to a semi final would be amazing.

It's going to be tough though. I think Hearts and Aberdeen will be stronger than us, and expect us to finish 5th or 6th at best.

Hearts i can kinda see, but i dont think they were that great tbh and dont think it would take much to catch them......but Aberdeen??? Why do you think that?

[Killiehibbie]

Winning the League, the Scottish Cup and the League Cup, while playing outrageously attractive football in front of sell-out crowds and beating Hearts four times in the league and once in each of the Cups.


Anything else is just not acceptable.

I'll go for that but only 3 wins against Hearts as they finish bottom.

[Kato]

Aberdeen have a poor manager despite having good funds. They'll drop plenty points imo. Europe may hurt Hearts league form too. Hopefully we are right in that mix for top 4.Hope it pans out that way. Jambos are going to need a lot of depth if they hope to reach christmas with a good league placing. Aberdeen? Meh.

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[J-C]

Top 4 and 2 decent cup runs to the semis at least.

[Hibbyradge]

Good attacking football with plenty goalmouth chances and excitement during most games is what I want.

If we get that, the results will follow although the league placing will be in the lap of the gods.

A cup run needs the luck of the draw and we could get knocked out in the 4th round by a powerful Celtc or Sevco so I'm not going to factor that in.

Just bring the fun back.

[WhileTheChief..]

Hearts i can kinda see, but i dont think they were that great tbh and dont think it would take much to catch them......but Aberdeen??? Why do you think that?

They've got money coming in which I expect them to spend.

They are similar to us in so many ways this season. They need to get off to a good start, get their fans on side etc. I also think Goodwin is a decent manager despite his crap start there.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Top 4 and winning one of the cups .... that's a successful season in practically any year of our history because the fact is that such a thing happening is as rare as hens teeth for us. Hell, even when we finally broke our SC hoodoo we had to be in the championship to do it.

That very fact is why its so easy to see us as one of the country's most under performing clubs ... 4th / 5th biggest club in the country for over a hundred years and in any one of those years such a season would have been one of our best.

A catalogue of mismanagement and under performance from owners and managers of this club since at least the 1950s means all an owner has to do is fulfill this club's potential to become a legend, not in any way exceed it ..... what a shame that for practically 70 years not one of them has managed it, but what an incentive for Ron Gordon to get it right.

Anyway .... 4th and the league cup will do me :greengrin

[Carheenlea]

A successful season will be one that leaves us with a lot of good memories. Not necessarily Cup Final wins or finishing 3rd, but simply a good number of memorable afternoons and nights which we will reminisce about in years to come.

Jack Ross gave us Rangers at Hampden and Shaun Maloney gave us (10 man for the 90 mins) Motherwell in the Cup, and that was pretty much it. Hardly getting out your seat for the most part of it and sitting bored to tears in Easter Road and away ends around the country. Beating teams you should be beating but falling short in the bigger games.

Making going to watch Hibs on a Saturday an entertaining and enjoyable afternoon out will be deemed a success for me. If we win a cup and secure a European spot then I’d say that’s a bonus. I’d like to think we can still be in the mix for those goals by the time of the split.

[danhibees1875]

4th, and not slipping up in the cup.

It would be great to get to Hampden but if we draw rangers/Celtic before that then you have to make allowances.

Ideally, the squad would be passionate about being at Hibs and play an attractive brand of football too.

[bingo70]

Not a criticism of anybody in particular however it’s interesting seeing some people only interested in what the end result looks like where as others are judging what the season will look like based on how we get to the end result. Really does just show that everybody judges things differently and can see how the recent managerial debates went the way they did.

Not saying either side is right or wrong, more just an observation that different people look for different things.

Sorry if that’s stating the obvious, I’m not stoned honest 😃

[PeeJay]

3rd place, European qualification and decent runs in the cup competitions (semis at least), playing "attractive" football - beating Hearts and - having the feeling that we have a team that can build on its success for the following season ...

[Paulie Walnuts]

Not a criticism of anybody in particular however it’s interesting seeing some people only interested in what the end result looks like where as others are judging what the season will look like based on how we get to the end result. Really does just show that everybody judges things differently and can see how the recent managerial debates went the way they did.

Not saying either side is right or wrong, more just an observation that different people look for different things.

Sorry if that’s stating the obvious, I’m not stoned honest 😃

:agree:

Before Jack Ross left last season I honestly wasn’t sure I’d renew this season if he was in charge. I thought it was brutal to watch, didn’t enjoy going to watch Hibs at all and even never bothered with some games for that reason. So a season ticket would have been a bit of a waste of money. That much never really changed under Maloney although if we’d carried on playing like we did in Maloneys first two games then I’d have been really excited going to watch Hibs.

I’ve renewed again for this season, but that’s all I want really is a team that I enjoy going to watch. If we get that then I’ve no doubt that decent results will follow as a consequence of that.

[heretoday]

Beat Hearts in every match we play them, preferably including a cup tie.

[bingo70]

:agree:

Before Jack Ross left last season I honestly wasn’t sure I’d renew this season if he was in charge. I thought it was brutal to watch, didn’t enjoy going to watch Hibs at all and even never bothered with some games for that reason. So a season ticket would have been a bit of a waste of money. That much never really changed under Maloney although if we’d carried on playing like we did in Maloneys first two games then I’d have been really excited going to watch Hibs.

I’ve renewed again for this season, but that’s all I want really is a team that I enjoy going to watch. If we get that then I’ve no doubt that decent results will follow as a consequence of that.

Yeah, im genuinely not wanting to open up old wounds or go over all ground again but I do think the message that the likes of you and I have been saying has been lost in translation when we say we want to enjoy going to Easter Road again. To me, it’s never been about fast free flowing attacking football trying to play like Man City, Barcelona or dare I say it, some Hibs way. An enjoyable season for me will include us playing on the front foot with loads of energy, pumping some teams some times and putting teams under loads of pressure. Easter Road should be a difficult place for teams to come and visit but it’s all been too placid recently. I just want a good team with fire in the belly. If we have that, for the most part results will take care of themselves.

[danhibees1875]

Beat Hearts in every match we play them, preferably including a cup tie.

What if we do that, but get relegated? Or even just flounder around in mid-table? Would that still be successful?

I don't think you're the only who would say that answer, not picking on you specifically. Just curious. 😊

[snedzuk]

Not a criticism of anybody in particular however it’s interesting seeing some people only interested in what the end result looks like where as others are judging what the season will look like based on how we get to the end result. Really does just show that everybody judges things differently and can see how the recent managerial debates went the way they did.

Not saying either side is right or wrong, more just an observation that different people look for different things.

Sorry if that’s stating the obvious, I’m not stoned honest 😃


Interesting take - for me its this:-

Standing up in the west lower at my seat before the game with a sense of anticipation not dread or boredom
Feeling some sort of connection when applauding players / manager coming out onto the pitch
Hugging my Mrs when (not if) we score (other Mrs's may be acceptable)
Feeling butterflies in my stomach if someone unfurls a 'natural order' banner or similar
Being moved to tears because we seem to have beaten the odds
Staying behind at the whistle to applaud effort / flair and not necessarily winning

[Hibs4185]

3rd and a cup win is achievable and should be the target every year.

[Smartie]

European qualification and a team that makes you look forward to going to watch it rather than try to find excuses to avoid it.

[thebausburst]

My expectations are low, just based on the signings to date so could change, but right now top 6 would be an achievement as for cups semi at best prob most realistic we can hope for tbh.

[One Day Soon]

A TDD so spectacular it puts all others in the shade. Performances that leave you gagging for the next game. Emergence of a new Captain who imposes himself on the team. A pressing style that leaves no team comfortable playing against us. Fortress Easter Road becoming a real thing. A couple of the new younger signings turning out to be real gems. Top five finish, European qualification and perhaps a semi final.

[Paulie Walnuts]

A TDD so spectacular it puts all others in the shade. Performances that leave you gagging for the next game. Emergence of a new Captain who imposes himself on the team. A pressing style that leaves no team comfortable playing against us. Fortress Easter Road becoming a real thing. A couple of the new younger signings turning out to be real gems. Top five finish, European qualification and perhaps a semi final.

I’d be more than happy with that :agree:

[blackpoolhibs]

Europe and a couple of cup runs if we avoid the obvious two.

[Smartie]

Europe and a couple of cup runs if we avoid the obvious two.

St Johnstone and Hearts?

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Only a trophy is 'success' we've had enjoyable seasons that will be remembered, e.g. the McLeish & Mowbray teams at their peak, but they didn't win any major honours - which is what defines success to me.

[allezsauzee]

Winning the treble and all three derbies by seven goals to nil. I insist on Hearts finishing in the bottom 6 forming part of this successful season :greengrin

[DIXIHIBS]

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A successful season will be one that leaves us with a lot of good memories. Not necessarily Cup Final wins or finishing 3rd, but simply a good number of memorable afternoons and nights which we will reminisce about in years to come.

Jack Ross gave us Rangers at Hampden and Shaun Maloney gave us (10 man for the 90 mins) Motherwell in the Cup, and that was pretty much it. Hardly getting out your seat for the most part of it and sitting bored to tears in Easter Road and away ends around the country. Beating teams you should be beating but falling short in the bigger games.
This sums it up for me as well. Yes winning a cup would be fantastic and 3rd place etc but just getting some games to remember. The last few years its all been very forgettable. Even back in the 80s we won nowt but plenty memorable games. We need excitement back at easter road.
Making going to watch Hibs on a Saturday an entertaining and enjoyable afternoon out will be deemed a success for me. If we win a cup and secure a European spot then I’d say that’s a bonus. I’d like to think we can still be in the mix for those goals by the time of the split.

[JimBHibees]

Europe and at least one semi final.

[flash]

I just want to enjoy watching my football again.

Nothing more than that nothing less.

[ian cruise]

1) Enjoyable football

2) Normally I say 4th minimum but this season I'll be okay with top 6, as long as number 1 happens.

3) Good cup run

[Jdawg]

I just want to enjoy watching my football again.

Nothing more than that nothing less.
Amen to this. Been bored to death over the past 2 seasons watching turgid football (especially last season). With a few exceptions!

[MWHIBBIES]

Amen to this. Been bored to death over the past 2 seasons watching turgid football (especially last season). With a few exceptions!

We really weren't turgid when we finished 3rd. Some brilliant wins and played decent football. It's wasn't Barcelona but it wasn't turgid imo.

[Hibernian Verse]

The caveman in me wants to beat Hearts at all costs, but a successful season looks like;

- European football (preferably the kind that they have this year)
- Min Semis of both cups

That's the reality of Hibs. If we overachieve then great!

[patlowe]

If you look at the teams that finished 4th and 5th, I don't think it's unreasonable to think those positions are potentially up for grabs, regardless of what state we were in last season. That's not to say it will happen, just that the league was so poor outside the top 3 that it really doesn't take much to get among the European positions with some small changes to the squad and good coaching. We also know to our cost that for some reason teams very rarely consolidate 3rd place, so while Hearts look far and away favourites for that position again and I think they'll get it, you just never know. You're at the mercy of the draw with cups and we're due a bad run, so if we don't make it to Hampden for a year I'm not going to be calling for heads. So, for me, a successful season is top 4/5 and beyond that, just a bit of entertainment at Easter Road...please.

[Widhibs]

3rd to 5th and a decent cup run as minimum

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Any season that folk aren't pissing and moaning about the slightest thing. It's only a game

Although, I did once break a controller playing C.o.D. oopsie

[Paulie Walnuts]

We really weren't turgid when we finished 3rd. Some brilliant wins and played decent football. It's wasn't Barcelona but it wasn't turgid imo.

Most of that season was turgid as well imo.

We’ve been gash to watch for years now with the odd individual game bucking the trend. Generally speaking though, we’ve not been good to watch for about 5 years I’d say.

[SHODAN]

Qualify for Europe, cup final minimum, no losses to Hearts.

[cameronw-hfc]

Winning the treble and all three derbies by seven goals to nil. I insist on Hearts finishing in the bottom 6 forming part of this successful season :greengrin


This, bare minimum.

Seriously though, don't get beat by Hearts, 4th and a final would be a good start. I do feel like any Hibs boss now has more pressure in the cups as we've pretty consistently been there or thereabouts in at least one of them every year for a bit now. Ideally keep that up but Europe is a must.

[MWHIBBIES]

Most of that season was turgid as well imo.

We’ve been gash to watch for years now with the odd individual game bucking the trend. Generally speaking though, we’ve not been good to watch for about 5 years I’d say.

Na, it really wasn't turgid. Plenty good football. 2010 to 2014 was gash to watch. Last 5 years have been average to good. 20/21 season was decent, Boyle nisbet and doidge were brilliant at times. Being in the house listening to Tam McManus would make anything seem worse than it actually was.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Na, it really wasn't turgid. Plenty good football. 2010 to 2014 was gash to watch. Last 5 years have been average to good. 20/21 season was decent, Boyle nisbet and doidge were brilliant at times. Being in the house listening to Tam McManus would make anything seem worse than it actually was.

Imo it really was. You do realise other people are allowed to have a different opinion to you, don’t you? Loads of people found it turgid. People said as much at the time as well.

And blaming how crap it was for some people on Tam McManus is laughable really.

[ian cruise]

This, bare minimum.

Seriously though, don't get beat by Hearts, 4th and a final would be a good start. I do feel like any Hibs boss now has more pressure in the cups as we've pretty consistently been there or thereabouts in at least one of them every year for a bit now. Ideally keep that up but Europe is a must.

That's in no way a start surely? No losses to Hearts sure but winning a trophy is a top achievement for Hibs any season and given 3rd is as good as we're likely to get in the near future I'd say finishing 4th given it's a new manager and a rebuild would be a fantastic result too

[matty_f]

Imo it really was. You do realise other people are allowed to have a different opinion to you, don’t you? Loads of people found it turgid. People said as much at the time as well.

And blaming how crap it was for some people on Tam McManus is laughable really.

How's the poster you're replying to not allowed an opinion without it being laughable but you get annoyed that he disagreed with yours?

If you're wanting folk to respect your opinion you should really show their opinion some as well.

[Northernhibee]

It's weird but the more I think about it, this season is more about how I feel going along to Easter Road or an away game than the actual result at the end of the season. Was absolutely gasping to attend a game during the lockdowns and after a bright start to last season it fell away very quickly and there was absolutely no joy whatsoever to be gained from watching Maloney have our strikers run away from goal, have eleven men back at set pieces and pass the ball about the back line rather than try to attack. I didn't look forward to it whatsoever and quite honestly despised Maloney for ripping the soul out of Hibs.

Even if we are a clear 'work in progress' and finish 7th lets say but otherwise play exciting but inconsistent football, have a few players who look as if they're bright sparks and have some exciting moments in big games then I'll be delighted, there will be something to hang your hat on to say "travelling all the way through to Edinburgh and spending all the money involved in these times is worth the hope".

For the first time in some time, what would constitute a success for Hibs is emotional rather than rational for me.

[wookie70]

Make going to games something I look forward to. I have always been more interested in entertainment than where we finish. I actually enjoyed the league below particularly the first couple of times back in the day. LJ has came across very well and he has an energy that the last three managers didn't, particularly Maloney but as ever talking means very little in football

[jingler1954]

Have at least 10 shots on target in every game. Score at least 2 goals in every game. Score 4 goals at least twice in the season. Win every game in the cups apart from the uglies, but dont give them if we get drawn against them an easy ride. European football next season. Hearts fail miserably. I'll be happy.

[FilipinoHibs]

Finish above Hearts and beat them more than they best us. Already had enough of their crowing.

[MWHIBBIES]

Imo it really was. You do realise other people are allowed to have a different opinion to you, don’t you? Loads of people found it turgid. People said as much at the time as well.

And blaming how crap it was for some people on Tam McManus is laughable really.

Of course you're allowed a different opinion. I'm quite entitled to think you're talking rubbish as well. In 14 years on here I've never once said anyone isn't entitled to their opinion or said my posts are anything other than my own opinion.

We weren't turgid. I'd kill to be that bad again next season. Real shame that such a good season is put down as turgid. Wonder why the club bother at times honestly.

Scored plenty goals, didn't concede many, had some good, big wins, especially away from home, reached a final and a semi. ****ing boring turgid stuff indeed.

[Soldiersteve]

Winning the League, the Scottish Cup and the League Cup, while playing outrageously attractive football in front of sell-out crowds and beating Hearts four times in the league and once in each of the Cups.


Anything else is just not acceptable.
Agreed:greengrin

[The Modfather]

Of course you're allowed a different opinion. I'm quite entitled to think you're talking rubbish as well. In 14 years on here I've never once said anyone isn't entitled to their opinion or said my posts are anything other than my own opinion.

We weren't turgid. I'd kill to be that bad again next season. Real shame that such a good season is put down as turgid. Wonder why the club bother at times honestly.

Scored plenty goals, didn't concede many, had some good, big wins, especially away from home, reached a final and a semi. ****ing boring turgid stuff indeed.

Turgid is just a word, but there were plenty of people that didn’t particularly enjoy the season we finished 3rd, me being one. 3rd was an achievement but I was glad to see the back of that season and don’t look back on it with fondness. Lots of people did enjoy it because the end goal is what they look for, and that’s fine as well.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Only a trophy is 'success' we've had enjoyable seasons that will be remembered, e.g. the McLeish & Mowbray teams at their peak, but they didn't win any major honours - which is what defines success to me.

Me as well. At the end of the day good football is desirable and something every team should aim for, but for far too long this club has been so fixated on 'playing the Hibs way' whatever the hell that is, that we have forgotten what we exist to do as a club.

From my first game at 15 years old I've seen a couple of teams at this club who were worth following just because of the way they played, but in that 47 years I've seen far more poor to rubbish teams. In that 47 years I've seen Hibs win two League cups and one Scottish cup, that's three trophies, one every 15 and a bit years.

In fact, when you consider that's 94 trophies contested and only 3 wins, for a club of this size that's a bloody hellish record.

That's why when the old argument comes around 'would you rather finish 4th and qualify for Europe or finish 6th but win the League cup? its a no brianer for me ... the League cup every time.

[Since452]

I agree with the posts above. Alex Miller played the most boring, negative football I've ever seen for the vast majority of his time at Hibs but he'll be remembered as a cup winning manager. That's success.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Of course you're allowed a different opinion. I'm quite entitled to think you're talking rubbish as well. In 14 years on here I've never once said anyone isn't entitled to their opinion or said my posts are anything other than my own opinion.

We weren't turgid. I'd kill to be that bad again next season. Real shame that such a good season is put down as turgid. Wonder why the club bother at times honestly.

Scored plenty goals, didn't concede many, had some good, big wins, especially away from home, reached a final and a semi. ****ing boring turgid stuff indeed.

Aberdeen finished second numerous times, that was turgid.

Good finishes doesn’t mean it isn’t turgid

[hibbyfraelibby]

Obviously the treble is a must allied to winning that UEFA Elite Youth thingy and the Hibernian 1875 Invitational...

[MWHIBBIES]

Aberdeen finished second numerous times, that was turgid.

Good finishes doesn’t mean it isn’t turgid

Was it turgid? Did you actually go and watch Aberdeen every week? Pretty sure they'd kill to go back to that now. They also had plenty big wins and exciting players.

It's not about where we finished. It's about 3-0 wins at Motherwell and St mirren, 4-0 win at Hamilton, 2-2 draws with the old firm, plenty other decent games.

We were not turgid. Turgid was Terry butcher and Colin calderwood and definitely Shaun Maloney. We played some good stuff under Ross that season and sadly none of us were able to see it.

[ian cruise]

Was it turgid? Did you actually go and watch Aberdeen every week? Pretty sure they'd kill to go back to that now. They also had plenty big wins and exciting players.

It's not about where we finished. It's about 3-0 wins at Motherwell and St mirren, 4-0 win at Hamilton, 2-2 draws with the old firm, plenty other decent games.

We were not turgid. Turgid was Terry butcher and Colin calderwood and definitely Shaun Maloney. We played some good stuff under Ross that season and sadly none of us were able to see it.

I've plenty Aberdeen supporting friends who definitely thought it was turgid after the initial excitement of being best of the rest faded.

[Libby Hibby]

I think a few should dig out the Collins English dictionary for the correct definition of Turgid…it’s a great word but sadly so often used out of context.

[MWHIBBIES]

I've plenty Aberdeen supporting friends who definitely thought it was turgid after the initial excitement of being best of the rest faded.

And now they're 10th. Maybe there's a theme here? Maybe turgid and winning is better than turgid and losing.

[Jim44]

I want us to regain the respect we once had from other teams in the Scottish Premiership. I think most, if not all of them, consider us losers and a real soft touch. I want them to fear us in every game. The way we regain that is by showing the capability of winning every game, preferably with solid, attacking football. I think we are shaping up to do that but time will tell. This would give us a good position in the league, and a good run in the cups would ice the cake.

[IberianHibernian]

We`re unlikely to do as well in cups as last 2 seasons but will obviously be hoping to finish at least 3 places higher in the league ( with even a normal number of injuries we would have finished 4th or better last season ) . Main thing wil be hopefully more entertaining play especially in the home matches . Even with injuries there were good attacking home performances before split v Ross County and Dundee United for example so with new signings we should hope for more .
Surely a big sign of success would be being able to read posts here after matches whatever results without loads of posts about " imposters , wage thieves etc " because fans appreciated team`s efforts . Not reading negative comments about new manager here yet ( last manager was being criticised by a few here before he`d even started ) and with pre season with players to settle in , hopefully we can enjoy some good performances and score a few goals .

[Wilson]

I want us to regain the respect we once had from other teams in the Scottish Premiership. I think most, if not all of them, consider us losers and a real soft touch. I want them to fear us in every game. The way we regain that is by showing the capability of winning every game, preferably with solid, attacking football. I think we are shaping up to do that but time will tell. This would give us a good position in the league, and a good run in the cups would ice the cake.

We've been a bit too boom and bust in my time supporting to have that respect. We get it while the team is good but the team is only good fleetingly.

We talk about consistency of top six finishes and of a model for recruitment that will sustain success. If we ever get these right we would be punching at the level we should be. No longer the soft touch or one season wonder.

[Hibees1973]

Got to be top 4, minimum. Cups are a lottery as we could draw the OF early.

Not fussed about attractive, attacking football early doors. Need to get off to a good start to get some of the doubters (me included) on board and to try and regain some of the season ticket holders who have not renewed in the last couple of years.

It's all about momentum. Given the fortunate run of fixtures we have (none of other the big 4 away) we could be unbeaten in the league up until October. This would give me optimism that Hibs have recruited well. However, given the shambles of last season and some of the irrational/erratic decisions made, if we lose the few games of the season (first 2 against St J & the Yams) it will be a slog and will turn messy.

[Libby Hibby]

1. In the top six.
2. As good a run as possible in both cups
3. European finish
4. New signings to be a success.
5. Fans to enjoy coming to ER again.
6. Leave the anger and abuse on Albion Road
7. Singing to return to all 3 stands
8. Work with the club to get a safe standing area introduced.
9. No fan scapegoats. Full support to all players.

[blackpoolhibs]

I want us to regain the respect we once had from other teams in the Scottish Premiership. I think most, if not all of them, consider us losers and a real soft touch. I want them to fear us in every game. The way we regain that is by showing the capability of winning every game, preferably with solid, attacking football. I think we are shaping up to do that but time will tell. This would give us a good position in the league, and a good run in the cups would ice the cake.

We've only really had one bad finish since returning to the league, and that was last season. We normally have good cup runs most years, but they are not good enough now, and we have to play like 70s Brazil, and win cups now.

[Keith_M]

We've only really had one bad finish since returning to the league, and that was last season. We normally have good cup runs most years, but they are not good enough now, and we have to play like 70s Brazil, and win cups now.


It's six years since we last won a trophy, so I think we're due another one.

Put some money on us winning the League Cup this season

[Paulie Walnuts]

We've only really had one bad finish since returning to the league, and that was last season. We normally have good cup runs most years, but they are not good enough now, and we have to play like 70s Brazil, and win cups now.

We’ve been bottom six twice in the last 3 years. Bottom six is a complete failure for Hibs.

[hibbyfraelibby]

We’ve been bottom six twice in the last 3 years. Bottom six is a complete failure for Hibs.

No...relegation is a complete failure, bottom 6 is a disappointment

[loanheadhibby]

We really weren't turgid when we finished 3rd. Some brilliant wins and played decent football. It's wasn't Barcelona but it wasn't turgid imo.

Good to finish third which is the best we can do.
No Hearts in the league.
What were the brilliant wins?

[MWHIBBIES]

Good to finish third which is the best we can do.
No Hearts in the league.
What were the brilliant wins?

Couldn't care less if hearts where in the league or not. They have no impact on what I consider success for Hibs.

Plenty of good wins, especially away from home. Was a really good season.

[Since452]

Good to finish third which is the best we can do.
No Hearts in the league.
What were the brilliant wins?

Hearts got themselves relegated through being *****. Them not being in the league made no difference.

[Paulie Walnuts]

No...relegation is a complete failure, bottom 6 is a disappointment

Bottom 6 is failure imo.

[21.05.2016]

Winning the League, the Scottish Cup and the League Cup, while playing outrageously attractive football in front of sell-out crowds and beating Hearts four times in the league and once in each of the Cups.


Anything else is just not acceptable.

We'd probably still have some fans that found something to moan about lol!

[21.05.2016]

We need to get a better return in the domestic cup competitions. In the last 10 years we've been to 7 finals and 8 semi finals (my calculations may be slightly off with that but its not too far off the mark lol!) and only won 1 trophy. That needs to improve. Getting to the later stages of the cup is rarely unachieved but we just can't seem to get over that final hurdle.

[bingo70]

Couldn't care less if hearts where in the league or not. They have no impact on what I consider success for Hibs.

Plenty of good wins, especially away from home. Was a really good season.

Maybe some people look for different things from a Hibs team than you?

That’s not saying you’re wrong, just that if someone found it boring or turgid, you can’t persuade them otherwise no matter what stats or league positions you can put forward to back up your views, as that’s just what they thought.

Some people (me) find Man City a boring team to watch where as I’m sure many people would think I’m mental for thinking that.

[ian cruise]

And now they're 10th. Maybe there's a theme here? Maybe turgid and winning is better than turgid and losing.

You're now arguing a different point. You said their fans didn't find their football boring, they did. However they enjoyed the success they were having and definitely appreciated it more than we did when Jack Ross had us third and the same criticism of how we played was being levelled at him5as McInnes faced.

Obviously 3rd is better than 10th. I should also add I didn't want Ross sacked, my previous posts should show that, I was a big fan. Problem McInnes and Ross face is that if the fans deem their football unexciting then they need to continually win to keep their critics at bay.

[MWHIBBIES]

You're now arguing a different point. You said their fans didn't find their football boring, they did. However they enjoyed the success they were having and definitely appreciated it more than we did when Jack Ross had us third and the same criticism of how we played was being levelled at him5as McInnes faced.

Obviously 3rd is better than 10th. I should also add I didn't want Ross sacked, my previous posts should show that, I was a big fan. Problem McInnes and Ross face is that if the fans deem their football unexciting then they need to continually win to keep their critics at bay.

I'd say though that people see what they wanted to see. Many big wins with great football got ignored and bad results Vs Hearts constantly mentioned against Ross. Of course there were some poor performances and results but we didn't play some dreadful brand of hoofball.

[GRA]

Best case scenario would be 3rd and a cup win. Plus winning all the derby games & couple of wins against the Old Firm.
Good season is 3rd/4th and cup final.
5th/6th I'd say no but that depends if we win a cup.
Bottom 6 and nowhere near cup finals is a failure and not acceptable.

[147lothian]

Top 6 is the minimum, real progress would see us in the top 4, cup runs would be good but the cup is a lottery so it's the league position we finish in that will tell if there has been a successful season for me.

[andyhibs1875]

Top 4 and winning one of the cups

[Stuart93]

After yesterday game. Winning the treble should be a given

[Iain G]

Something like:

Hibs winning the league and the Scottish Cup.
Celtic struggle as all of their first team is called up for Japan.
Parks of Hamilton are bought by cinch and Rylan is installed as new board member at the Rangers.
Robbie Nielsen decides to finally visit a barber.
Ron finally opens a llama sanctuary at East Mains.
Ian Gordon signs Neymar and Mbappe as back up to Doidge and Nisbet.
Jack Ross admits he is Ross Jack but from a parallel universe.
Alex Gogic scores a hat trick against Hearts in the league cup semi final.
Hibs launch a NICE purple and green away kit.
Pilot open a brew bar and taproom in the stadium.
England don't get out the group stages in Qatar after Harry Maguire scores 4 own goals against Wales ..

[Since452]

A cup win is a successful season. Failing that it's European qualification. Both would be eutopia.

[Turkish Green]

Top 6 finish, 3rd (or 4th) place. Beating the yams 4x in league. A cup final.

[jingler1954]

Have at least 10 shots on target in every game. Score at least 2 goals in every game. Score 4 goals at least twice in the season. Win every game in the cups apart from the uglies, but dont give them if we get drawn against them an easy ride. European football next season. Hearts fail miserably. I'll be happy.

Well that's a good start shots on target [tick] 2 goals[tick] 4 Goals [tick] GGTTH

[Dobosz83]

Top 4, Scottish Cup semi-final minimum and at least 2 derby wins…

[H18 SFR]

66 points and minimum 2 x semi-final.

[bigwheel]

66 points and minimum 2 x semi-final.

Interesting way of setting targets that. Defining our results/ outcomes rather than league position …quite like that tbh..as we can’t control what others do

[Paulie Walnuts]

Interesting way of setting targets that. Defining our results/ outcomes rather than league position …quite like that tbh..as we can’t control what others do

In reality it’s the only sensible way to do it.

If someone ends up in a 3 horse race for the title then everyone else really just needs to hold their hands up and say well done rather than looking at league positions and saying “we aimed for third, how’d we not manage it”.

A points total is based purely on your own performance.