Kyle Magennis

[Stuart93]

Seems to have been working with a personal trainer and looks in unreal shape for the new season.

Certainly working hard to make sure he keeps fit! Hopefully can kick on this year

[Aldo]

Seems to have been working with a personal trainer and looks in unreal shape for the new season.

Certainly working hard to make sure he keeps fit! Hopefully can kick on this year

Big player for us! Fingers crossed he gets a great pre season and can stay injury free


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[Col2]

Do we know if he is back 100% to start full training?

[hibee-boys]

We need (deserve) a full season from him, hopefully able to stay fit and continue the great form from the beginning of last season.

[HendoDelivered]

One of the first picks when fit. We are a better side with him in it!

[Nicho87]

Was looking like the player we hoped he was going to be last season. The late runs in to the box at motherwell opening day where he scored, then scoring away in Europe were lovely goals as an attacking midfielder.

Definitely a player in there, but also so is an injury.

If he can stay fit might just be one of Lee Johnson’s most important players.

[cameronw-hfc]

Do we know if he is back 100% to start full training?

I heard he was fit for the last 2 games of the season but the club decided against playing him in case he got injured and just allow him to get a full pre season. Can't speak tk the credibility of the source though

[McD]

I heard he was fit for the last 2 games of the season but the club decided against playing him in case he got injured and just allow him to get a full pre season. Can't speak tk the credibility of the source though


tbh that’s probably not a bad thing to have done. He’d likely have got pelters from some for being injured most of the season, and even more if he’d done anything wrong on the pitch, and no doubt would be feeling some self driven pressure to perform.

this way, he’s got a clean slate with a new manager, where’s he’ll have had (we all hope) a strong preseason of preparation and time to get used to how LJ wants to play

fingers crossed he’s gotten over his injury woes and is ready and raring to go to have a successful time on the pitch for us

[jacomo]

tbh that’s probably not a bad thing to have done. He’d likely have got pelters from some for being injured most of the season, and even more if he’d done anything wrong on the pitch, and no doubt would be feeling some self driven pressure to perform.

this way, he’s got a clean slate with a new manager, where’s he’ll have had (we all hope) a strong preseason of preparation and time to get used to how LJ wants to play

fingers crossed he’s gotten over his injury woes and is ready and raring to go to have a successful time on the pitch for us


:agree:

[MWHIBBIES]

I heard he was fit for the last 2 games of the season but the club decided against playing him in case he got injured and just allow him to get a full pre season. Can't speak tk the credibility of the source though

Sounds very possible and I think the right decision. Desperately needs some luck and to be properly taken care off.

[Onceinawhile]

I heard he was fit for the last 2 games of the season but the club decided against playing him in case he got injured and just allow him to get a full pre season. Can't speak tk the credibility of the source though

I thought he had surgery around that time, which ended any hopes of him playing again? That's my recollection anyway.

[Brightside]

I thought he had surgery around that time, which ended any hopes of him playing again? That's my recollection anyway.

Yep. He wasn’t seen on the training pitch so no idea how he could have been fit to play.

[blackpoolhibs]

I thought he had surgery around that time, which ended any hopes of him playing again? That's my recollection anyway.

FFS i didnt realise his injury was that bad.

[J-C]

Very good player and the box2box energetic midfielder we missed last season, seems the knee injury in Jan 2020 was his only real bad injury and the others since have been as a result from the knee one, he'd appeared in every game that season until that injury.

[B.H.F.C]

Very good player and the box2box energetic midfielder we missed last season, seems the knee injury in Jan 2020 was his only real bad injury and the others since have been as a result from the knee one, he'd appeared in every game that season until that injury.

He’d missed the majority of the season 2018/19 season through injury as well.

Really hope he stays for but also really hope we don’t rely on that happening squad wise.

[J-C]

He’d missed the majority of the season 2018/19 season through injury as well.

Really hope he stays for but also really hope we don’t rely on that happening squad wise.


Yea a torn tendon, just checked on transfermarket and the more you see he does look injury prone, lets hope he can get a run of games this time.

[Since452]

Kyle Magennis is the best on earth.

[cameronw-hfc]

Yep. He wasn’t seen on the training pitch so no idea how he could have been fit to play.


No clue, im not ITK just passing on something I was told. As said, don't know the source well enough to claim he's reliable or not but if he had surgery around that time it would confirm he isn't reliable lol.

[BoomtownHibees]

I heard he was fit for the last 2 games of the season but the club decided against playing him in case he got injured and just allow him to get a full pre season. Can't speak tk the credibility of the source though

Should have played him instead of Rocky 👀

[Springbank]

Apart from the 45 minutes where Martin Boyle demolished the Brexitland Queens XI Rangers at Hampden, I thought our best team performance last season was that first 45 mins at Tannadice in the league Cup quarters.

McGennis was the key to that happening. His runs from midfield committed the utd midfield, created loads of space for Allan & Newell, and, without McGennis to do all that, the rest of the season saw our midfield dead easy to snuff out.

Newell & jdh really needed mcgennis's movement to create space. Without him they were sideways, back & predictable.

Hope Kyle can stay fit & could be instrumental in the August Derby

[loanheadhibby]

Apart from the 45 minutes where Martin Boyle demolished the Brexitland Queens XI Rangers at Hampden, I thought our best team performance last season was that first 45 mins at Tannadice in the league Cup quarters.

McGennis was the key to that happening. His runs from midfield committed the utd midfield, created loads of space for Allan & Newell, and, without McGennis to do all that, the rest of the season saw our midfield dead easy to snuff out.

Newell & jdh really needed mcgennis's movement to create space. Without him they were sideways, back & predictable.

Hope Kyle can stay fit & could be instrumental in the August Derby

I know I'm negative but Kyle gets better every week he doesn't play.
He is decent but no better than that.
If you think he will help JDH and Newell, I think you are kidding yourself as they are just ordinary players.
Hopefully the new manager will also see pretty quickly that we need better.
The signing of Bushiri doesn't fill me with hope but you never know.

[cameronw-hfc]

I know I'm negative but Kyle gets better every week he doesn't play.
He is decent but no better than that.
If you think he will help JDH and Newell, I think you are kidding yourself as they are just ordinary players.
Hopefully the new manager will also see pretty quickly that we need better.
The signing of Bushiri doesn't fill me with hope but you never know.


I really don't think that's true. He was integral to our early season form as he's the only dynamic CM at the club. He's not got the footballing ability of Allan, but he's always making forward runs, getting into the box and Newell and JDH we're widely praised at the start of the season before Kyle got injured. He was widely praised also.

Newell has shown himself to be a good player, he's not creative and isn't the player some make him out to be, and JDH had some brilliant early season performances, Kyle gets injured and we rely on those two doing things they can't, and suddenly they're both average.

Our midfield isn't poor, it's desperate for some depth, but a fully fit Newell, JDH and Magennis is a good midfield. Take Magennis out and we have no creativity and nobody making forward runs, resulting in the other two looking poor.

[Smartie]

I know I'm negative but Kyle gets better every week he doesn't play.
He is decent but no better than that.
If you think he will help JDH and Newell, I think you are kidding yourself as they are just ordinary players.
Hopefully the new manager will also see pretty quickly that we need better.
The signing of Bushiri doesn't fill me with hope but you never know.

There was a fairly stark difference between when we had Magennis fit and playing and then what followed after.

That may have been down to much more than just Magennis being out but the whole team changed the minute he got injured.

Our goal threat was greatly diminished and some players looked lost compared to before.

[AgentDaleCooper]

IMO if he hadn't gotten injured last season, we'd be in europe and JR would still be at the helm. obviously that doesn't speak very well of the rest of the team, but he was a massive player for us at the start of the term, and our bad run started when he got injured. we were sitting at 2nd, went to ibrox without him and didn't pick up another point for 2 months.

[Dalianwanda]

Should have played him instead of Rocky 👀

oh ffs

[Is It On....]

One of the first picks when fit. We are a better side with him in it!

And JDH is a much better player with Kyle in the team..

[Is It On....]

I really don't think that's true. He was integral to our early season form as he's the only dynamic CM at the club. He's not got the footballing ability of Allan, but he's always making forward runs, getting into the box and Newell and JDH we're widely praised at the start of the season before Kyle got injured. He was widely praised also.

Newell has shown himself to be a good player, he's not creative and isn't the player some make him out to be, and JDH had some brilliant early season performances, Kyle gets injured and we rely on those two doing things they can't, and suddenly they're both average.

Our midfield isn't poor, it's desperate for some depth, but a fully fit Newell, JDH and Magennis is a good midfield. Take Magennis out and we have no creativity and nobody making forward runs, resulting in the other two looking poor.

100% agree and written far more eloquently than me 🙂

[loanheadhibby]

IMO if he hadn't gotten injured last season, we'd be in europe and JR would still be at the helm. obviously that doesn't speak very well of the rest of the team, but he was a massive player for us at the start of the term, and our bad run started when he got injured. we were sitting at 2nd, went to ibrox without him and didn't pick up another point for 2 months.

A massive player?
We got him from St Mirren and he was injured even then.
I pray I'm wrong and hop he goes in to have a good career but we're in trouble if our season depends on Kyle Magennis.

[Callum_62]

A massive player?
We got him from St Mirren and he was injured even then.
I pray I'm wrong and hop he goes in to have a good career but we're in trouble if our season depends on Kyle Magennis.I personally can't think of any ex St mirren players who have been decent

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[Gordy M]

I personally can't think of any ex St mirren players who have been decent

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Really? Is a whoosh? SJM?

[Bostonhibby]

I personally can't think of any ex St mirren players who have been decent

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[Brightside]

There is nothing wrong with actually talking up our own players.

[offshorehibby]

Ally Macleod did alright for us[emoji16]

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Technically we got him from Southampton :greengrin

[Callum_62]

Really? Is a whoosh? SJM?It does appear to be a whoosh.... Not on my part though [emoji6]

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[Bostonhibby]

Technically we got him from Southampton :greengrinAye, but even then that St. Mirren connection was there, or we'd never have done the deal [emoji16]

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[Gordy M]

It does appear to be a whoosh.... Not on my part though [emoji6]

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Yeh you never know with this place.

[Since452]

Magennis is a top player who wouldn't be at Hibs if it wasn't for injuries. We took a gamble on him when when we signed him but we all saw his qualities at the start of last season. Strong, powerfull runner, can pick a pass and tackle and chp in with goals. Let's hope he gets a good pre season behind him as he will be a key player for us this season.

[Hibbyradge]

FFS i didnt realise his injury was that bad.

:tee hee:

[MKHIBEE]

Really? Is a whoosh? SJM?

SJM wasn’t decent, he was excellent

[Clarence]

Kyle Magennis is the best on earth.

Magennis - good things come to those who wait.

[CentreLine]

I personally can't think of any ex St mirren players who have been decent

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Jim Blair 😉

[Mikey]

Has Magennis been seen in any of the training pics published by the club?

[J-C]

Has Magennis been seen in any of the training pics published by the club?

Yes, he's in the training gear, think you see him sprinting.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Has Magennis been seen in any of the training pics published by the club?

I’ve seen a pic of him in the gym. Haven’t seen any out on the grass as far I can recall but that doesn’t mean he’s not doing it, or even that there’s not any pictures of it!

[Brightside]

I’ve seen a pic of him in the gym. Haven’t seen any out on the grass as far I can recall but that doesn’t mean he’s not doing it, or even that there’s not any pictures of it!

He’s been doing loads of work with a personal trainer.

[Paulie Walnuts]

He’s been doing loads of work with a personal trainer.

Yeah seem that. Doesn’t necessarily mean he’s fit to play football though.

From what people were saying though, he was due back for pre season so unless we hear differently I presume he’s back in full training like everyone else.

[Brightside]

Yeah seem that. Doesn’t necessarily mean he’s fit to play football though.

From what people were saying though, he was due back for pre season so unless we hear differently I presume he’s back in full training like everyone else.

He’s back in full training.

[loanheadhibby]

Magennis will end up at Dundee Utd along with JR.

i just don’t think he can stay fit long enough for us to rely on him. We need players available most weeks.

[BoomtownHibees]

Magennis will end up at Dundee Utd along with JR.

i just don’t think he can stay fit long enough for us to rely on him. We need players available most weeks.

Do Dundee Utd no need fit players?

[eastmainsmsh]

Basher was decent

[adam middlemass]

I have high expectations for Kyle Magennis this coming season, hope I’m not going to be disappointed! 👍🤭

[Stevie Reid]

Basher was decent

He was, eventually - hardly played for his first season and a bit. I might be totally making this up, but was it not said at one point that his wisdom teeth had somehow played a part in him being unbelievable for so long?

[Stuart93]

Magennis will end up at Dundee Utd along with JR.

i just don’t think he can stay fit long enough for us to rely on him. We need players available most weeks.

Not a chance we’d be selling magennis at this point. Potentially another injury filled season this year and he’ll be off but the way he started last season we’d be mad to let him leave for somewhere like dundee utd

[JimBHibees]

Basher was decent

Never ever looked fit certainly talented

[loanheadhibby]

Not a chance we’d be selling magennis at this point. Potentially another injury filled season this year and he’ll be off but the way he started last season we’d be mad to let him leave for somewhere like dundee utd

Probably not but come January, we might think about cutting our losses.

Hopefully not, genuinely hope he can make an impact over the course of a full season. Unfortunately, his stats would suggest this is unlikely.

[loanheadhibby]

Do Dundee Utd no need fit players?

Jack Ross obviously rates the laddie and will maybe take a chance on him despite his last 3 seasons being injury blighted.

[Smartie]

He was, eventually - hardly played for his first season and a bit. I might be totally making this up, but was it not said at one point that his wisdom teeth had somehow played a part in him being unbelievable for so long?

Was Basher not “mystery virus, may or may not have been linked to eating dodgy shellfish”?

Very long absence, didn’t seem to obviously tally up with the reason given iirc.

[Stevie Reid]

Was Basher not “mystery virus, may or may not have been linked to eating dodgy shellfish”?

Very long absence, didn’t seem to obviously tally up with the reason given iirc.

You may well be right man - definitely remember it similarly to you, in that the reason given seemed really innocuous given how long he was out.

Was definitely a strange one.

[jacomo]

Not a chance we’d be selling magennis at this point. Potentially another injury filled season this year and he’ll be off but the way he started last season we’d be mad to let him leave for somewhere like dundee utd


Amen brother.

[HoboHarry]

Magennis will end up at Dundee Utd along with JR.

i just don’t think he can stay fit long enough for us to rely on him. We need players available most weeks.
Why would Dundee United buy him then?

[loanheadhibby]

Why would Dundee United buy him then?

Well as previously stated, Jack Ross obviously rates him having managed him at St Mirren and then signed him for us.

[BoomtownHibees]

Well as previously stated, Jack Ross obviously rates him having managed him at St Mirren and then signed him for us.

Pretty pointless if he’s always injured though

[J-C]

Big season for Kyle, needs to play a big part, if injury hits again, he'll be away in January.

[Stuart93]

Big season for Kyle, needs to play a big part, if injury hits again, he'll be away in January.

Away where? Don’t imagine there’s much you can do with an injured player

[J-C]

Away where? Don’t imagine there’s much you can do with an injured player

There's always someone, Ross signed him when he was still injured, hence the long contract.

[Highwayman]

The common theme running through this thread is all ifs,buts and maybes about Kyle Maggenis’s future.

Surely Hibs can’t afford another season (his third) whereby he is continually injured.

If he can make it from one transfer window to the next injury free,I am sure he would be a good asset to the club.

However if he gets hit with another what looks like a season long injury is there anyway Hibs can offload him in the January transfer window.

The question previously asked in thread is which club in these circumstances would be willing to take a risk on him.

[Tyler Durden]

The common theme running through this thread is all ifs,buts and maybes about Kyle Maggenis’s future.

Surely Hibs can’t afford another season (his third) whereby he is continually injured.

If he can make it from one transfer window to the next injury free,I am sure he would be a good asset to the club.

However if he gets hit with another what looks like a season long injury is there anyway Hibs can offload him in the January transfer window.

The question previously asked in thread is which club in these circumstances would be willing to take a risk on him.

You've just repeated all the ifs, buts and pointless questions.

He's a Hibs player.

[GreenPJ]

If Magennis gets to January injury free then our challenge is about getting him an extended contract as opposed to looking to get rid.

[Since452]

If Magennis gets to January injury free then our challenge is about getting him an extended contract as opposed to looking to get rid.

I agree with this. If he hadn't been injured when he was last season and had continued to perform as he was doing we'd have really struggled to keep hold of him. He's a top player and a good age. If he kicks on next season and stays injury free he'll have plenty teams looking at him.

[Sir David Gray]

Well as previously stated, Jack Ross obviously rates him having managed him at St Mirren and then signed him for us.

Yes but if he's not going to be available most weeks as you suggested in your last post (which may well be true by the way) then I don't see why Dundee Utd would be interested.

They need their players to be fit most of the time just as much as we do.

[chippy]

Get the feeling , no inside info though, that the signing of Magennis was part of the downfall of Mathie and Ross

[loanheadhibby]

I agree with this. If he hadn't been injured when he was last season and had continued to perform as he was doing we'd have really struggled to keep hold of him. He's a top player and a good age. If he kicks on next season and stays injury free he'll have plenty teams looking at him.
How can you possibly rate him as a top player?

[Brightside]

This is another very weird thread.

[Stuart93]

This is another very weird thread.

Weird in what way?

I only see the majority of posters giving their opinions on Magennis, either positively or negatively.

[GRA]

Marvin Bartley once said talent wise Dylan McGeouch the potential to have the career John McGinn is having but didn't have the body to cope. I hope it's not the same with Magennis. Our best player with Boyle for 1st 2 months of last season.

[Brightside]

Weird in what way?

I only see the majority of posters giving their opinions on Magennis, either positively or negatively.

Its mind numbingly negative from some, who wont even agree he's a top player for us when fit. Anyone who saw the guy play would think that was just negativity for the sake of it. But its now the new normal. Ce la vie

[Stuart93]

Its mind numbingly negative from some, who wont even agree he's a top player for us when fit. Anyone who saw the guy play would think that was just negativity for the sake of it. But its now the new normal. Ce la vie

I guess some people feel we haven’t seen him play enough to consider him as a top player.

Not sure I’d consider him as a top player at this point, if he can prove over a period of time that the purple patch he had at the start of last season is the norm then he’d definitely be a top player.

At the other end of the argument, there’s no doubting he’d be one of, if not our most important player if he could stay fit. I do really like the way he plays, fits our midfield perfectly.

Don’t really find anything weird or overly negative about people not currently considering him a top player though. But again, I guess it’s all about opinion.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Marvin Bartley once said talent wise Dylan McGeouch the potential to have the career John McGinn is having but didn't have the body to cope. I hope it's not the same with Magennis. Our best player with Boyle for 1st 2 months of last season.

Agree with him too. If Mcginn had mcgeouch's touch he'd be world class

[McD]

The common theme running through this thread is all ifs,buts and maybes about Kyle Maggenis’s future.

Surely Hibs can’t afford another season (his third) whereby he is continually injured.

If he can make it from one transfer window to the next injury free,I am sure he would be a good asset to the club.

However if he gets hit with another what looks like a season long injury is there anyway Hibs can offload him in the January transfer window.

The question previously asked in thread is which club in these circumstances would be willing to take a risk on him.

He’s never had any ‘season long’ injury with Hibs, never mind another.

he played in a reasonable amount of games his first season (23 appearances) but was coming back from a bad injury whilst at St Mirren, and had a few wee niggly things.

last season he started very well, got an injury, was back training in January before sustaining a different injury in training.

[easty]

He’s never had any ‘season long’ injury with Hibs, never mind another.

he played in a reasonable amount of games his first season (23 appearances) but was coming back from a bad injury whilst at St Mirren, and had a few wee niggly things.

last season he started very well, got an injury, was back training in January before sustaining a different injury in training.

His 23 appearances in his first season were a solid 4/10 at best. He was piss poor. If he comes back from this injury and plays like that then I’d no expect him to get another 23 games.

Last season was different. He was played more centrally and looked a player. I’d love to have that Kyle Magennis back. Fingers crossed.

[AZhibee]

Kyle Magennis is the best on earth.

The earth is injured and may be away in January

[cameronw-hfc]

I guess some people feel we haven’t seen him play enough to consider him as a top player.

Not sure I’d consider him as a top player at this point, if he can prove over a period of time that the purple patch he had at the start of last season is the norm then he’d definitely be a top player.

At the other end of the argument, there’s no doubting he’d be one of, if not our most important player if he could stay fit. I do really like the way he plays, fits our midfield perfectly.

Don’t really find anything weird or overly negative about people not currently considering him a top player though. But again, I guess it’s all about opinion.


Wasn't he captain or vice-captain at St Mirren at 20? Pretty sure that's a sign of a decent enough player.

[Gmack7]

Wasn't he captain or vice-captain at St Mirren at 20? Pretty sure that's a sign of a decent enough player.

With St Mirren, hopefully he gets a consistent run and shows the quality we know he has

[Forza Fred]

Jim Blair 😉

:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

[Paulie Walnuts]

I guess some people feel we haven’t seen him play enough to consider him as a top player.

Not sure I’d consider him as a top player at this point, if he can prove over a period of time that the purple patch he had at the start of last season is the norm then he’d definitely be a top player.

At the other end of the argument, there’s no doubting he’d be one of, if not our most important player if he could stay fit. I do really like the way he plays, fits our midfield perfectly.

Don’t really find anything weird or overly negative about people not currently considering him a top player though. But again, I guess it’s all about opinion.

:agree:

It lasted for such a short period of time that it was nowhere near enough to say he is a top player for me.

James Scott had 3 or 4 decent to good games at the end of the season culminating in a hatrick. If you take them in isolation, you’d look at him and say he’s a cracking player. He wasn’t though.

Likewise with Magennis, he had about 25 appearances where he was garbage at Hibs. He then went on a wee run of good form and never played again.

[Brightside]

:agree:

It lasted for such a short period of time that it was nowhere near enough to say he is a top player for me.

James Scott had 3 or 4 decent to good games at the end of the season culminating in a hatrick. If you take them in isolation, you’d look at him and say he’s a cracking player. He wasn’t though.

Likewise with Magennis, he had about 25 appearances where he was garbage at Hibs. He then went on a wee run of good form and never played again.

"Garbage" ffs. Played out of position and did the job asked of him. So garbage that the manager kept playing him. Again the way some of us are desperate to put down our players.

[Paulie Walnuts]

"Garbage" ffs. Played out of position and did the job asked of him. So garbage that the manager kept playing him. Again the way some of us are desperate to put down our players.

You don’t have a clue if he done the job asked of him. He also kept getting dropped from the starting line up, so it’s certainly not the case that the manager ‘kept playing him’ and even more likely he wasn’t actually doing the job asked of him. As we don’t know what his instructions were though then we’ll of course not know that.

He was pish in his first season. There’s really no getting away from that. He was much better in his few appearances last season. But there was nowhere near enough appearances for him to suddenly be in the top player bracket imo. He still has to prove himself as a top player at Hibs.

[superfurryhibby]

"Garbage" ffs. Played out of position and did the job asked of him. So garbage that the manager kept playing him. Again the way some of us are desperate to put down our players.

OTT response.Magennis was dire in his first season, nothing to do with putting players down, just an observation based on watching him play. Although he made 20 + appearances, many were off the bench.

He started well last season, and yes, played in a system and position that suited his game.

He has a lot to prove and I hope for Hibs and his sake that he avoids further injury. Potentially make or break time for him and his career.

[tonyrougier123]

Magennis fully fit start of last season was a revalation in midfield.
Pat mcginlay springs to mind in comparison.
Hopefully the physios can get him sorted for a good run in the team.
But we shouldn’t stand still in that hope either,let’s get a player of similar style signed,then we can at some stage have two pat mcginlays😁.

[loanheadhibby]

Magennis fully fit start of last season was a revalation in midfield.
Pat mcginlay springs to mind in comparison.
Hopefully the physios can get him sorted for a good run in the team.
But we shouldn’t stand still in that hope either,let’s get a player of similar style signed,then we can at some stage have two pat mcginlays😁.
He is certainly not garbage or dire as has been stated.
I actually think he's decent and hopefully we can get him fit enough to do himself justice.
However to say he's a top player and a revelation is way over the top.
Let's not pin our hopes on Kyle Magennis and it'll be interesting how many games he plays this season.

[SlickShoes]

:agree:

It lasted for such a short period of time that it was nowhere near enough to say he is a top player for me.

James Scott had 3 or 4 decent to good games at the end of the season culminating in a hatrick. If you take them in isolation, you’d look at him and say he’s a cracking player. He wasn’t though.

Likewise with Magennis, he had about 25 appearances where he was garbage at Hibs. He then went on a wee run of good form and never played again.

James Scott played well in ONE single game that didn't matter. It is extremely harsh to be comparing Kyle to James Scott's time at hibs.

[eastmainsmsh]

He was impressive in europa home game if he can stay injury free could be like a new signing

[JimBHibees]

James Scott played well in ONE single game that didn't matter. It is extremely harsh to be comparing Kyle to James Scott's time at hibs.

There is no comparison imo.

[SHODAN]

We still have him contracted for another three years right?

[Big_Franck]

We still have him contracted for another three years right?

Yeah, he signed a 5 year contract in 2020.

[Unseen work]

The only games Magennis hasn’t looked very good is when he played wide left or wide right.

He’s a centre mid, when he’s played there he’s looked a very good player.

Let’s get him fit and playing in his natural position and he’ll be a big player for us.

[Mikey]

I still haven't seen him in any of the training pics or videos!

[Paulie Walnuts]

James Scott played well in ONE single game that didn't matter. It is extremely harsh to be comparing Kyle to James Scott's time at hibs.

It’s not so much comparing the players but comparing the situation.
James Scott was decent in his final 3 games. He scored or assisted in all of them with 4 goals and an assist in total. If he’d played as he did in those games throughout the rest of his time here we’d have probably wanted him here permanently. Infact we’d have been desperate for it.

Magennis is in the same situation but probably to a lesser degree. He had so many bad performances 20/21 that I think it’s a stretch to say 8 or 9 good performances in 21/22 suddenly has him down as a top player. Imo he’s still got to prove he can be a top player at Hibs.

[jacomo]

It’s not so much comparing the players but comparing the situation.
James Scott was decent in his final 3 games. He scored or assisted in all of them with 4 goals and an assist in total. If he’d played as he did in those games throughout the rest of his time here we’d have probably wanted him here permanently. Infact we’d have been desperate for it.

Magennis is in the same situation but probably to a lesser degree. He had so many bad performances 20/21 that I think it’s a stretch to say 8 or 9 good performances in 21/22 suddenly has him down as a top player. Imo he’s still got to prove he can be a top player at Hibs.


Nah. KM has yet to really prove his worth as a Hibs player, it’s true, but the comparison to JS is a nonsense.

[basehibby]

Signing Kyle when we did - just after a cruciate injury -was always a gamble. Part of the payoff was just securing his signature, which may have become much harder to do if we'd waited for him to reach full fitness w St Midden before our move. For the gamble to pay off properly though we will need to see a fully fit KM for the majority of the remainder of his deal.. If and when that happens I believe he will be a first pick and major asset to the team.

[J-C]

I don't think Magennis cost us too much, it was a gamble after a bad injury, he was given game time by Ross to get his fitness up but was played out of position, not a real problem but we never seen the best from him. He started last season well but was again blighted by injury. This season is a big one for him because if he struggles injury wise again, he may struggle to further his career.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Nah. KM has yet to really prove his worth as a Hibs player, it’s true, but the comparison to JS is a nonsense.

As I said, it’s not a comparison as players but a comparison of the situations.

James Scott put in a few decent performances in his 19 games as a Hibs player. Arguably, the final 3 performances would have seen us desperate to sign him permanently had it been his first 3 performances. Despite his final 3 performances though, there’s rightfully never been any suggestion that he’s a top player because the majority of his performances have come nowhere near that of a top player

Magennis has had alot more poor games for Hibs than good ones. His good ones probably amount to single figures. As we both agree, he has a way to go to prove himself at Hibs.

[Springbank]

As I said, it’s not a comparison as players but a comparison of the situations.

James Scott put in a few decent performances in his 19 games as a Hibs player. Arguably, the final 3 performances would have seen us desperate to sign him permanently had it been his first 3 performances. Despite his final 3 performances though, there’s rightfully never been any suggestion that he’s a top player because the majority of his performances have come nowhere near that of a top player

Magennis has had alot more poor games for Hibs than good ones. His good ones probably amount to single figures. As we both agree, he has a way to go to prove himself at Hibs.

I'm glad you are not my manager!

There is simply no comparison that is credible between James Scott (a huddy) and Kyle McGennis (a guy with a bit of class who was showing a consistency of high level performance after the benefit of a good pre-season training last year).

McGennis ran the games in Europe (including Rijeka away, up until going down to 10men) and gave us midfield dominance in games like Hearts at Tynecastle (League) and Dundee Utd at Tannadice (League Cup) in the early games of last season where we were up at the top end of the table.

His injury robbed our midfield of any pace, movement, strength, dynamism, and (imo) exposed the limitations in JDH and Newell's games.

[loanheadhibby]

I'm glad you are not my manager!

There is simply no comparison that is credible between James Scott (a huddy) and Kyle McGennis (a guy with a bit of class who was showing a consistency of high level performance after the benefit of a good pre-season training last year).

McGennis ran the games in Europe (including Rijeka away, up until going down to 10men) and gave us midfield dominance in games like Hearts at Tynecastle (League) and Dundee Utd at Tannadice (League Cup) in the early games of last season where we were up at the top end of the table.

His injury robbed our midfield of any pace, movement, strength, dynamism, and (imo) exposed the limitations in JDH and Newell's games.
If you reckon we dominated the midfield at Tynecastle you were at a different game to me.
We were happy to leave with a 0-0 draw thanks to some good goalkeeping ( by both keepers).

[McD]

His 23 appearances in his first season were a solid 4/10 at best. He was piss poor. If he comes back from this injury and plays like that then I’d no expect him to get another 23 games.

Last season was different. He was played more centrally and looked a player. I’d love to have that Kyle Magennis back. Fingers crossed.


i wouldn’t necessarily disagree (although he was played out of position in his first season), but what you’ve replied is irrelevant to the post I made, which was in response to post about him having had season long injuries with us, not about the quality of his play

i definitely agree about wanting last season’s early form Magennis back in the side, and hopefully for a long run of games

[hibee1875]

If Magennis was as posted on here actually fit to play the last couple of games of the season, why is he listed as still continuing his injury rehab on the Portugal trip?

He’ll forever be one month away from being match fit.

[J-C]

If Magennis was as posted on here actually fit to play the last couple of games of the season, why is he listed as still continuing his injury rehab on the Portugal trip?

He’ll forever be one month away from being match fit.

If he's still trying to get fit, I do worry about his longevity in the game.

[Paulie Walnuts]

If Magennis was as posted on here actually fit to play the last couple of games of the season, why is he listed as still continuing his injury rehab on the Portugal trip?

He’ll forever be one month away from being match fit.

Read that and thought the same. Certainly makes you think he’s probably not yet fit.

If that’s the case then we need to be signing someone else to play his position. If he manages to come back to fitness then great, but we’d be mental to be counting on him being available when we’re looking at what we need squad wise.

[B.H.F.C]

Read that and thought the same. Certainly makes you think he’s probably not yet fit.

If that’s the case then we need to be signing someone else to play his position. If he manages to come back to fitness then great, but we’d be mental to be counting on him being available when we’re looking at what we need squad wise.

I reckon McGeady will play centrally for us in that number 10 role this season. Henderson is there as well although he obviously has a lot to prove. Don’t think we’ll sign anyone else in that position just now.

[Jim44]

First of all …. Very good player and one we all want to see in the team ……. however, perpetual injury makes him an unnecessary passenger. Sorry if that upsets more patient supporters

[HoboHarry]

First of all …. Very good player and one we all want to see in the team ……. however, perpetual injury makes him an unnecessary passenger. Sorry if that upsets more patient supporters
Ok then, what is your suggestion/solution?

[Brightside]

If Magennis was as posted on here actually fit to play the last couple of games of the season, why is he listed as still continuing his injury rehab on the Portugal trip?

He’ll forever be one month away from being match fit.

He wasn’t fit to play at end of season. He’s only just started training

[Brightside]

First of all …. Very good player and one we all want to see in the team ……. however, perpetual injury makes him an unnecessary passenger. Sorry if that upsets more patient supporters

How about we let him get fit after his injury. It’s a weird concept

[shamo9]

Just looked it up out of curiousity. Magennis last played for us on the 26th September 2021. He was subbed off at half time for Jake Doyle Hayes.

It means that he's now been been unavailable for selection for 9 months. Wowza :shocked:

Fingers crossed he can be ready for the start of the league campaign.

[B.H.F.C]

How about we let him get fit after his injury. It’s a weird concept

Surely you can see why folk might be sceptical about whether that is going to happen? And if it does, how long it might last?

[HoboHarry]

Surely you can see why folk might be sceptical about whether that is going to happen? And if it does, how long it might last?
Ok so like I asked the other poster, what's your suggestion?

[Heisenberg]

As it stands he’s been a very poor signing, especially considering the money paid for him. Hopefully he plays the majority of this season but I doubt it’ll happen.

[Jim44]

Ok then, what is your suggestion/solution?

No solution……. but do we just keep drooling over him on the assumption/chance that he might become a fit, regular, and available choice? If the management and supporters are comfortable with him as a potential regular, then, fine.

[Mikey_1875]

He wasn’t fit to play at end of season. He’s only just started training

You stated earlier in this thread that he is back full training :confused:

[The Modfather]

Ok so like I asked the other poster, what's your suggestion?

Sign a replacement for him. Then look to move him on at some point before his contract ends, or more likely, accept he’ll be here until then and anytime we see him available and match fit it’s a bonus.

[B.H.F.C]

Ok so like I asked the other poster, what's your suggestion?

I just don’t want us to be in a position where we’re waiting on someone being available for months at a time. I don’t want to be in a position where our midfield issues continue because of the absence of a player who we know is likely to be absent.

Magennis was given a five year deal so he’s here to stay (and I hope at some point he’s available to play week in, week out) but we need to plan on the basis that isn’t going to happen.

[Brightside]

You stated earlier in this thread that he is back full training :confused:

And? After being out for months. Hibs are clearly being careful. No issue.

[Mikey_1875]

And? After being out for months. Hibs are clearly being careful. No issue.

Well, he clearly isn’t back in full training. No issue with hibs being careful but your statement is raising people’s hopes unnecessarily when the truth is he is still in rehabilitation.

[Brightside]

Well, he clearly isn’t back in full training. No issue with hibs being careful but your statement is raising people’s hopes unnecessarily when the truth is he is still in rehabilitation.

He reported for training. He trained. He’s not ready to play a game yet. And I really don’t thing my posts would raise anyones hopes. Just let Hibs do their job. We played an injured Hanlon for a half a season. Lets make sure Kylo is given the time to come back properly and not get injured by playing too early. He’s still potentially a good investment for Hibs.

[Mikey_1875]

He reported for training. He trained. He’s not ready to play a game yet. And I really don’t thing my posts would raise anyones hopes. Just let Hibs do their job. We played an injured Hanlon for a half a season. Lets make sure Kylo is given the time to come back properly and not get injured by playing too early. He’s still potentially a good investment for Hibs.

We’ll call it a difference of opinion on what full training means then. I agree with your other points as it’s clear Mitchell fell victim to coming back too soon and KM still has plenty time left on his contract.

[Paulie Walnuts]

You stated earlier in this thread that he is back full training :confused:

It was quite clearly a guess trying to be passed off as a fact. Why some people are so desperate to appear like they know things other supporters don’t is beyond me.

[Brightside]

It was quite clearly a guess trying to be passed off as a fact. Why some people are so desperate to appear like they know things other supporters don’t is beyond me.

Maybe stop being so desperate to slag off the club / players you claim to support.

[Unseen work]

Seems odd he’s been injured for so long, sure it’s happened in training/was a niggle he had been feeling for a while.

The set back in January is fairly taking its time, hopefully we’re just being extra cautious and making sure he’s as strong as possible after some time off before getting involved in the triple sessions.

[Callum_62]

Seems odd he’s been injured for so long, sure it’s happened in training/was a niggle he had been feeling for a while.

The set back in January is fairly taking its time, hopefully we’re just being extra cautious and making sure he’s as strong as possible after some time off before getting involved in the triple sessions.Didn't he get a contact injury in a bounce game - sure he was nearly back in first team contention too

Not sure what the contact injury was or if it lead to uncovering a further issue

Seems like he keeps himself in shape though

Samir Nasri he ain't [emoji23]

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[Since452]

If he was badly injured he wouldn't be going to Portugal. Kyle, Mitchell and Hanlon all look in good shape. Their training will probably be tailored slightly differently than the rest of the squad. I'm not overly concerned by it. I expect them all to be available for the St Johnstone game.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Maybe stop being so desperate to slag off the club / players you claim to support.

What on earth are you talking about, I never mentioned the club/players? :confused: I mentioned the fact you’d made things up to appear to know things that others didn’t.

Things like that just add to peoples frustrations with Magennis. You’ve been telling us all summer he’s fit and ready to go and suddenly we’re told by the club he’s still injured.

If you don’t want people to be critical then you should maybe stop making up nonsense and having people believe Kyle Magennis is fit when he’s not just to get yourself a bit of clout on the internet. His fitness is a frustration for fans. You’ve sat here and told us he’s fit when he’s not. If anything you’re adding to peoples frustrations by making up crap and then sitting here telling people they shouldn’t be frustrated when the stories you’ve made up get exposed as being a pile of crap.

[Paulie Walnuts]

If he was badly injured he wouldn't be going to Portugal. Kyle, Mitchell and Hanlon all look in good shape. Their training will probably be tailored slightly differently than the rest of the squad. I'm not overly concerned by it. I expect them all to be available for the St Johnstone game.

Nisbet is there and he’s still out for another 3 or 4 months so I’m not sure it’s the case Magennis would have been left behind.

[Brightside]

What on earth are you talking about, I never mentioned the club/players? :confused: I mentioned the fact you’d made things up to appear to know things that others didn’t.

Things like that just add to peoples frustrations with Magennis. You’ve been telling us all summer he’s fit and ready to go and suddenly we’re told by the club he’s still injured.

If you don’t want people to be critical then you should maybe stop making up nonsense and having people believe Kyle Magennis is fit when he’s not just to get yourself a bit of clout on the internet. His fitness is a frustration for fans. You’ve sat here and told us he’s fit when he’s not. If anything you’re adding to peoples frustrations by making up crap and then sitting here telling people they shouldn’t be frustrated when the stories you’ve made up get exposed as being a pile of crap.

Ive made up nothing. Stop over reacting. Is he back in training. Yes. Since pre season started he has been attending training sessions at HTC. Over the "summer" he's done loads of work with a PT. I never at any point said he was ready to play, i actually questioned someone claiming that in the thread. He hasnt been close to training at the end of the last season.
I'm 50 ffs why the **** would i want to earn clout on the internet. Grow up man.

[SHODAN]

Really frustrating that he's still not fit considering the obvious quality that's there.

Hope he can get this behind him and kick on. Still worth persisting with IMO and no one will be more pissed off about this than Magennis.

[hibbyfraelibby]

The common theme running through this thread is all ifs,buts and maybes about Kyle Maggenis’s future.

Surely Hibs can’t afford another season (his third) whereby he is continually injured.

If he can make it from one transfer window to the next injury free,I am sure he would be a good asset to the club.

However if he gets hit with another what looks like a season long injury is there anyway Hibs can offload him in the January transfer window.

The question previously asked in thread is which club in these circumstances would be willing to take a risk on him.

In any other industry he'd be on Disability Living Allowance by now and have a Blue Badge...

[hibbyfraelibby]

He’s never had any ‘season long’ injury with Hibs, never mind another.

he played in a reasonable amount of games his first season (23 appearances) but was coming back from a bad injury whilst at St Mirren, and had a few wee niggly things.

last season he started very well, got an injury, was back training in January before sustaining a different injury in training.

That last bit about getting injured in training is rather an interesting quote.

A lot of our injury problems this and to a lesser extent last season were self inflicted training injuries which begs the question about our techniques and why Ross in particular and the medical team were unable to recognise that.

[Mcbizz1998]

Ok then, what is your suggestion/solution?

Exactly. We have him for 3 years, nobody wants to buy him. So let’s just try to get the lad fit and if he is able to stay that way, he will become a huge player for us. I’m quite hopeful by the end of the season we will all be delighted he is here and trying to keep hold of him.

[SlickShoes]

That last bit about getting injured in training is rather an interesting quote.

A lot of our injury problems this and to a lesser extent last season were self inflicted training injuries which begs the question about our techniques and why Ross in particular and the medical team were unable to recognise that.

How many of the injuries from last season were in training?

[Hibee Mac]

I just hope the management team are running on the assumption that he will not play a game this season. If they are relying on him being fit in any way then I think we're in trouble.

Any games he plays should be seen as a bonus at this stage

[Lago]

:greengrin
In any other industry he'd be on Disability Living Allowance by now and have a Blue Badge...

[MKHIBEE]

In any other industry he'd be on Disability Living Allowance by now and have a Blue Badge...
He would still be classed as fit to work

[Paulie Walnuts]

Ive made up nothing. Stop over reacting. Is he back in training. Yes. Since pre season started he has been attending training sessions at HTC. Over the "summer" he's done loads of work with a PT. I never at any point said he was ready to play, i actually questioned someone claiming that in the thread. He hasnt been close to training at the end of the last season.
I'm 50 ffs why the **** would i want to earn clout on the internet. Grow up man.

People rightfully pointed out he hasn’t been seen in the training photos with the rest of the squad. You said he was back in full training. You then doubled down on that statement by having a go at others for being negative for pointing this out.

He’s not back in full training and people now quite rightly pointed it out.

I’ve no idea why you would want to earn clout on the internet, only you can answer that. Making things up to appear to be better informed than other supporters is doing exactly that though.

[Brightside]

People rightfully pointed out he hasn’t been seen in the training photos with the rest of the squad. You said he was back in full training. You then doubled down on that statement by having a go at others for being negative for pointing this out.

He’s not back in full training and people now quite rightly pointed it out.

I’ve no idea why you would want to earn clout on the internet, only you can answer that. Making things up to appear to be better informed than other supporters is doing exactly that though.


No only you can answer the clout comment. Because it pish. Nobody has "clout" on here and I dont see anyone trying to claim they do.

You have a good day now and I only hope that any other comments on here don't "build your hopes up"

[Paulie Walnuts]

No only you can answer the clout comment. Because it pish. Nobody has "clout" on here and I dont see anyone trying to claim they do.

You have a good day now and I only hope that any other comments on here don't "build your hopes up"

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