Jair Tavares

[dastardly8]

We are supposed to be looking at Jair Tavares of Benfica looks a young talent with speed and trickery out wide, YouTube clips a couple of years old but looks decent.

[ekhibee]

Is he a right winger? Looks quite a skillful player, I'd be quite surprised if we could afford him, but it would be great if we did.

[dastardly8]

Is he a right winger?
Can play both left or right wing

[gbhibby]

Check it out, A penny for your thoughts.If we sign him will heaven be missing an angel.😁

[007]

Check it out, A penny for your thoughts.If we sign him will heaven be missing an angel.😁

Pipped me to it. 😃

[leith lynx]

Check it out, A penny for your thoughts.If we sign him will heaven be missing an angel.😁

Hope he is a great Disco-very.

[MWHIBBIES]

Benfica absolutely churn out good wingers so hopefully this is another

[dastardly8]

Benfica absolutely churn out good wingers so hopefully this is another His cousin is Renato Sanches another very good player

[BlackSheep]

If we sign this lad then it’s a show in that we make up a song to “It Only Takes a Minute” by Tavares!! 😂😂😂

[Mr. Wonderful]

Sorry but going by his highlights reel I'm struggling to see the difference between what he brings and what Jasper or Mueller did. Seems like a good prospect but worried because we need proven talent to improve the first 11

[cameronw-hfc]

Sorry but going by his highlights reel I'm struggling to see the difference between what he brings and what Jasper or Mueller did. Seems like a good prospect but worried because we need proven talent to improve the first 11


Looks obvious to me that he's bringing much, much needed pace, directness and options out wide.

[bingo70]

Sorry but going by his highlights reel I'm struggling to see the difference between what he brings and what Jasper or Mueller did. Seems like a good prospect but worried because we need proven talent to improve the first 11

There’s similarities between Jasper and this guy but they’re two completely different people and will be playing in different teams under different managers. Just because one didn’t work out, there’s no reason another similar player won’t.

I don’t see the comparison with Mueller at all.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Looks obvious to me that he's bringing much, much needed pace, directness and options out wide.

I'm not sure I see significant pace in those videos. Looks about as pacey as Jasper was.

[degenerated]

I don’t see the comparison with Mueller at all.

Maybe you aren't looking hard enough :dunno:25949

[Saint Hibee]

1 assist in 24 appearances for a winger doesn’t fill me with optimism, but hopefully he proves me wrong.

[Sioux]

1 assist in 24 appearances for a winger doesn’t fill me with optimism, but hopefully he proves me wrong.

Maybe the strikers miss most of the chances he makes. One reason why you shouldn't rely on stats.

[Stuart93]

Maybe the strikers miss most of the chances he makes. One reason why you shouldn't rely on stats.

Aye was thinking that earlier. Few of the clips in his compilation were bad misses

[Since452]

Sorry but going by his highlights reel I'm struggling to see the difference between what he brings and what Jasper or Mueller did. Seems like a good prospect but worried because we need proven talent to improve the first 11

Just need to see what he's like if/when he signs and plays.

[Stairway 2 7]

This thread will be as weird as the one about the lad from Africa. If he's good enough he'll play, if no he'll no. No one has a clue what he's like especially no from clips. Can't wait until the season starts so we can stop with the speculation and doom

[Silky]

1 assist in 24 appearances for a winger doesn’t fill me with optimism, but hopefully he proves me wrong.

Is that a reflection on him or his strikers? Chances created perhaps a better measurement?

[Mr. Wonderful]

This thread will be as weird as the one about the lad from Africa. If he's good enough he'll play, if no he'll no. No one has a clue what he's like especially no from clips. Can't wait until the season starts so we can stop with the speculation and doom

Ok then. We'll all stop having opinions until you come back on and allow us to

[Stairway 2 7]

Ok then. We'll all stop having opinions until you come back on and allow us to

Thank **** for that 👏

[Lendo]

Thank **** for that 👏

Just wait until he finds out he’s been signed as a volunteer

[Mr. Wonderful]

Just wait until he finds out he’s been signed as a volunteer

Slave*

[007]

Maybe you aren't looking hard enough :dunno:25949

😂

Some folk have too much time on their hands.

[Mike Berry]

Ah,brings back memories.......

https://youtu.be/-Gi4tOrKphw

[brog]

Sorry but going by his highlights reel I'm struggling to see the difference between what he brings and what Jasper or Mueller did. Seems like a good prospect but worried because we need proven talent to improve the first 11

Have you ever not been worried?

[cameronw-hfc]

Hibs could sign Mbappe and there would be folk moaning he's no old enough and doesn't pass enough

[Mr. Wonderful]

Have you ever not been worried?

Are you worried about it like?

[Stokesy's on fire]

Maybe the strikers miss most of the chances he makes. One reason why you shouldn't rely on stats.

Will fit in well here then haha

[WeeRussell]

I'm not sure I see significant pace in those videos. Looks about as pacey as Jasper was.

Jasper that was the only player in our team that looked like he would beat a man for months, and must have been close to, if not, the fastest player in our squad.

Furthermore, Mueller and Jasper brought totally different things to the team. In my opinion it wasn’t a lot in Mueller’s case, but he’s completely different to Jasper. I wonder if that’s why you never see any good in potential signings if you can’t see any difference between those two?

[Forza Fred]

Maybe the strikers miss most of the chances he makes. One reason why you shouldn't rely on stats.

Yep

56% of stats are just a made up figure

[May21/05/216]

Sorry but going by his highlights reel I'm struggling to see the difference between what he brings and what Jasper or Mueller did. Seems like a good prospect but worried because we need proven talent to improve the first 11Have you commented anything positive about hibs
I'm beginning to wonder if you really are a hibs fan
you remind me of a certain reporter that said mcginn would struggle to get into the celtic team


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[BlackSheep]

60% of the time the stats are 100% accurate.

:wink:

[Tyler Durden]

Maybe the strikers miss most of the chances he makes. One reason why you shouldn't rely on stats.

Unless it was an Expected Assist stat :wink:

[Iain G]

Tavares fits nicely into Volare!

Tavaresssss oh oh oh oh 🤣😁

[Mr. Wonderful]

Jasper that was the only player in our team that looked like he would beat a man for months, and must have been close to, if not, the fastest player in our squad.

Furthermore, Mueller and Jasper brought totally different things to the team. In my opinion it wasn’t a lot in Mueller’s case, but he’s completely different to Jasper. I wonder if that’s why you never see any good in potential signings if you can’t see any difference between those two?

Milk turns quicker than Jasper. Outpaced by Charlie Adam ffs

[BILLYHIBS]

Milk turns quicker than Jasper. Outpaced by Charlie Adam ffs

Agree had to do everything quicker faster

[Mr. Wonderful]

Have you commented anything positive about hibs
I'm beginning to wonder if you really are a hibs fan
you remind me of a certain reporter that said mcginn would struggle to get into the celtic team


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Are things meant to be ultra positive after our worst season in recent memory, where we sacked 2 managers and our top scorers all left the club or were injured well before the end of it?

I'll be positive when there's something to be positive about.

[Victor]

Are things meant to be ultra positive after our worst season in recent memory, where we sacked 2 managers and our top scorers all left the club or were injured well before the end of it?

I'll be positive when there's something to be positive about.

We were not relegated and we are not Hearts. Two positives off the top of my head.


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[GloryGlory]

Tavares passes medical.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-close-in-on-benfica-youngster-jair-tavares-and-ex-celtic-forward-aiden-mcgeady-is-still-an-option-3732776

[bingo70]

Are things meant to be ultra positive after our worst season in recent memory, where we sacked 2 managers and our top scorers all left the club or were injured well before the end of it?

I'll be positive when there's something to be positive about.

Worst season in recent memory?

We were a Melkerson open goal away from top 6, got to a cup final and semi final of the other.

Last season was pish but you’re being a bit dramatic. Bad seasons happen sometimes.

[May21/05/216]

Are things meant to be ultra positive after our worst season in recent memory, where we sacked 2 managers and our top scorers all left the club or were injured well before the end of it?

I'll be positive when there's something to be positive about.My point still stands I think you dont follow hibs
If you do then I would be prepared for bumps in future following hibs
But you can always follow your other team that I think you follow

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[Callum_62]

Are things meant to be ultra positive after our worst season in recent memory, where we sacked 2 managers and our top scorers all left the club or were injured well before the end of it?

I'll be positive when there's something to be positive about.You must have a really bad memory [emoji38]

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[J-C]

Are things meant to be ultra positive after our worst season in recent memory, where we sacked 2 managers and our top scorers all left the club or were injured well before the end of it?

I'll be positive when there's something to be positive about.

Positive...we signed a top experienced keeper...we sign a very decent RB from Oz...also a punt with a young African lad who'll not be costing that much...and a young exciting winger who had a few clubs after him. We still have many weeks of the window to go with comings and goings still to happen. Must admit you are one if the most depressing posters on here, take a break and chill for a bit.

[Northernhibee]

Worst season in recent memory?

We were a Melkerson open goal away from top 6, got to a cup final and semi final of the other.

Last season was pish but you’re being a bit dramatic. Bad seasons happen sometimes.

We didn't score that open goal, capitulated within 60 seconds of scoring in the cup final and lost for the second time in a week to Hearts in the other (which guaranteed them European group stage football).

Let's be honest, it was absolutely ****ing dreadful as a season but as long as we make that our lowest ebb then the future is good.

[Brightside]

Worst season in recent memory?

We were a Melkerson open goal away from top 6, got to a cup final and semi final of the other.

Last season was pish but you’re being a bit dramatic. Bad seasons happen sometimes.

Its mental. Unless his recent memory is like 6 seasons???

[Brightside]

We didn't score that open goal, capitulated within 60 seconds of scoring in the cup final and lost for the second time in a week to Hearts in the other (which guaranteed them European group stage football).

Let's be honest, it was absolutely ****ing dreadful as a season but as long as we make that our lowest ebb then the future is good.

But we got to a final and a semi?? That and top 4 and any manager has delivered above expectations. So not getting top 6 doesn't make it even close to worst in recent memory.

[Hibiza]

Tavares fits nicely into Volare!

Tavaresssss oh oh oh oh 🤣😁

Definitely , Russell Watson version be fine 🎤

[Mr. Wonderful]

Worst season in recent memory?

We were a Melkerson open goal away from top 6, got to a cup final and semi final of the other.

Last season was pish but you’re being a bit dramatic. Bad seasons happen sometimes.

Yes. Most joyless, hopeless season since 2014.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Positive...we signed a top experienced keeper...we sign a very decent RB from Oz...also a punt with a young African lad who'll not be costing that much...and a young exciting winger who had a few clubs after him. We still have many weeks of the window to go with comings and goings still to happen. Must admit you are one if the most depressing posters on here, take a break and chill for a bit.

I'll decide whether those are positives or not once they do the business. Until then I've seen too many false dawns under the Gordon's to believe the hype

[Mr. Wonderful]

But we got to a final and a semi?? That and top 4 and any manager has delivered above expectations. So not getting top 6 doesn't make it even close to worst in recent memory.

What was worse than that since relegation? We've been in cup finals and semis with horrific sides plenty of times. It's not a barometer for success unless you actually win the thing

[Pretty Boy]

Let's be honest last season was 1 of several that have been mediocre at best in recent times. The brightest spot was Jack Ross, a 3rd place finish and a cup final and even then a sizeable number wanted the manager out.

Since we finished 4th under Lennon we have finished 5th and been emptied from both cups in the quarter finals, 7th and 2 semi finals, the aforementioned Ross season then last season. The evaporation of the feel good factor that lasted from about summer 2016 to around October 18 was rapid

Arguing over which season was the worst is a sad reflection of how 3 of the last 4 have gone.

[MWHIBBIES]

Are things meant to be ultra positive after our worst season in recent memory, where we sacked 2 managers and our top scorers all left the club or were injured well before the end of it?

I'll be positive when there's something to be positive about.

Mate, last season wouldn't make the top 5 in my memory. Relax yourself a little.

[Bad Habits]

Tavares' profile Up on instragram now, must be confirming soon

[Aldo]

Tavares' profile Up on instragram now, must be confirming soon

Silhouette of him has appeared on the Official Facebook page with a timer next to him


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[Alex Trager]

Silhouette of him has appeared on the Official Facebook page with a timer next to him


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Wonder if he’s in the new kit

[Aldo]

Wonder if he’s in the new kit

Wonder indeed??


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[bingo70]

Wonder if he’s in the new kit

Nah, I can’t see us blowing two positive pieces of PR into one announcement, more likely to spread it across a couple of days.

[Aldo]

Nah, I can’t see us blowing two positive pieces of PR into one announcement, more likely to spread it across a couple of days.

With a marquee signing [emoji41]


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[Sir David Gray]

YouTube interview released now.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Mate, last season wouldn't make the top 5 in my memory. Relax yourself a little.

He said recent memory.

I’m not sure that’s all that debatable really. Last season was absolutely terrible and probably the worst since we got relegated 8 years previous.

[Unseen work]

I was surprised to learn he only started 6 games for Benfica B last season and came off the bench 18 times. Played just under 700 minutes for the B team last year.

I thought he was a regular.

[Sir David Gray]

Updated squad list after today's news;

Marshall
Macey
Dabrowski
Mitchell

McGinn
Porteous
Doig
Hanlon
Clarke
Cadden
Stevenson
Bushiri
Miller
Delferriere
MacIntyre
Mitchell
McGregor

Newell
Doyle Hayes
Campbell
Tait
Hauge
Magennis
Henderson
Blaney
Aiken
Hamilton
Kenneh
Mackay
Tavares

Nisbet
Doidge
Melkersen
Bojang
O'Connor

Squad of 35 as things stand.

[Hibs90]

Updated squad list after today's news;

Marshall
Macey
Dabrowski
Mitchell

McGinn
Porteous
Doig
Hanlon
Clarke
Cadden
Stevenson
Bushiri
Miller
Delferriere
MacIntyre
Mitchell
McGregor

Newell
Doyle Hayes
Campbell
Tait
Hauge
Magennis
Henderson
Blaney
Aiken
Hamilton
Kenneh
Mackay
Tavares

Nisbet
Doidge
Melkersen
Bojang
O'Connor

Squad of 35 as things stand.

That’s utterly ridiculous. Must be around 9/10 to leave

[Wilson]

I was surprised to learn he only started 6 games for Benfica B last season and came off the bench 18 times. Played just under 700 minutes for the B team last year.

I thought he was a regular.

I suppose if he played too many, and was then included in the first team squad more often, we'd find ourselves priced out very quickly.

I think timing is key here and hope we've found a good one.

[Sir David Gray]

That’s utterly ridiculous. Must be around 9/10 to leave

I'm sure a number of the younger ones will go out on loan again and a few others will be moved on.

I certainly don't see us signing many more players until that happens right enough.

[bingo70]

That’s utterly ridiculous. Must be around 9/10 to leave

It’s not though as he’s included players for the B team.

First team squad will be much lower than that, for a start you can take out Hauge, Delferrier, Mitchell (GK), McIntyre and others that aren’t going to be playing first team football.

[MWHIBBIES]

He said recent memory.

I’m not sure that’s all that debatable really. Last season was absolutely terrible and probably the worst since we got relegated 8 years previous.

What is recent memory? If its actually a persons memory then it wouldn't be close to our worst. If its the last 8 years, then sure, maybe. Although staying down for 3 years is probably worse.

Last season was really poor, I don't disagree. It really has nothing to do with things right now. New manager, new players. Forget it and move on.

[Brightside]

That’s utterly ridiculous. Must be around 9/10 to leave

A lot of them will be Dev players

[MelbourneHibees]

Pleased with this one. He also looks the part in the retro Purple striped kit! They should just bring it back for real.

[Ringothedog]

That’s utterly ridiculous. Must be around 9/10 to leave

At least 10 of that list will be in our development/reserve team

[Big_Franck]

I was surprised to learn he only started 6 games for Benfica B last season and came off the bench 18 times. Played just under 700 minutes for the B team last year.

I thought he was a regular.

So we've signed a boy that couldn't get a game for Benfica's B team? Hud me back on buying a new season ticket.

[SlickShoes]

This close season has probably been the most negative of any I can remember, usually people have a bit of excitement about new signings but everyone so far has been met with a very mixed at best reception. I am glad it's not me signing for hibs, can't wait for the boo's to ring out as soon as the first mistake of the season is made.

[Johnny_Leith]

Has anyone called him Jair Jair Binks yet?

[Paul1642]

This close season has probably been the most negative of any I can remember, usually people have a bit of excitement about new signings but everyone so far has been met with a very mixed at best reception. I am glad it's not me signing for hibs, can't wait for the boo's to ring out as soon as the first mistake of the season is made.

Think some people would be happier if we went back to our failed approached of signing whoever has performed well for St Mirren and St Johnstone anlong with a few English league one players.

I’m pretty exited about what we are trying here.

[JimBHibees]

Hope he does well. Sort of player we need

[Coco Bryce]

Another huge gamble from Hibs.

Hopefully he hits the ground running.

[Bishop Hibee]

Time to dig out the Jimmy Boco wig. These signings seem utterly random. Success and the board and management are geniuses, failure and we’ll be facing relegation and fan mutiny.

[heretoday]

You can't have enough tricky wingers.

[Green Reaper]

With a marquee signing [emoji41]


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Sounds intents

[matty_f]

This close season has probably been the most negative of any I can remember, usually people have a bit of excitement about new signings but everyone so far has been met with a very mixed at best reception. I am glad it's not me signing for hibs, can't wait for the boo's to ring out as soon as the first mistake of the season is made.

It’s actually brutal, like a total enthusiasm hoover - don’t get excited about anything, for god sake. Come on buzzing about a new signing, phoning the Samaritans ten minutes later.

[Hibiza]

Welcome Jair .

[Tambo]

Welcome to Hibs, I seen from the video clips he likes to play on both sides. What's his preferred wing?

[One Day Soon]

Has anyone called him Jair Jair Binks yet?

Jairzhino surely?

[bingo70]

It’s actually brutal, like a total enthusiasm hoover - don’t get excited about anything, for god sake. Come on buzzing about a new signing, phoning the Samaritans ten minutes later.

I’ve started replying to a few but stopped mid way through typing. There really isn’t any point. If anybody wants to be miserable about a singing like this then good luck to them, I’m no going to change their mind.

Hopefully there’s a couple of steady Eddie boring signings ahead to keep them happy too. 😃

[jeffers]

I’ve started replying to a few but stopped mid way through typing. There really isn’t any point. If anybody wants to be miserable about a singing like this then good luck to them, I’m no going to change their mind.

Hopefully there’s a couple of steady Eddie boring signings ahead to keep them happy too. 😃

Wouldn’t say it’s about steady Eddie boring signings, more players with a bit of experience. Not to say it won’t change but we are continuing on the route of signing untested youngsters with potential. We are expecting these guys to adapt to a different style of football in a different country. Hard enough for experienced professionals, but these guys are anything but. Even if they turn out to be brilliant, at that age consistency is often an issue.

[B.H.F.C]

Other than Marshall and Rocky, difficult to have any kind of opinion on anyone we’ve signed so far. I don’t think Tavares will be the last of this type of signing this summer so there is going to be some decent ones somewhere in amongst them all.

Still think we are desperate for a first pick, central midfielder and striker.

[Since452]

Welcome Jair ya big Portuguese beauty ye.

[B.H.F.C]

Wouldn’t say it’s about steady Eddie boring signings, more players with a bit of experience. Not to say it won’t change but we are continuing on the route of signing untested youngsters with potential. We are expecting these guys to adapt to a different style of football in a different country. Hard enough for experienced professionals, but these guys are anything but. Even if they turn out to be brilliant, at that age consistency is often an issue.

My concern is that, in isolation, a signing like this would bring a bit of excitement. But loads of them getting thrown together and trying to form a team out of them is a different story. Hopefully it comes off and they all click quickly. I think I’m more worried about a number of the players that were already here, and on long contracts, that these guys need to come in and play with.

[Tricla]

I'll be positive when there's something to be positive about.

Can I sign up for notifications so I know when you're being positive?

[WeeRussell]

Can I sign up for notifications so I know when you're being positive?

Mind and check your absolute junk mail.

[bingo70]

Wouldn’t say it’s about steady Eddie boring signings, more players with a bit of experience. Not to say it won’t change but we are continuing on the route of signing untested youngsters with potential. We are expecting these guys to adapt to a different style of football in a different country. Hard enough for experienced professionals, but these guys are anything but. Even if they turn out to be brilliant, at that age consistency is often an issue.

I think everyone will recognise we need to add some experience to the side, that doesn’t mean we can’t enjoy exciting signings like these as well though. The two things aren’t mutually exclusive.

I know what you mean about the inconsistencies of a young side but **** it, that’s fine with me. If we can be tremendous one week and win 6-0 then follow it up with a 2-0 loss to St Mirren where we don’t get a kick of the ball I’m ok with that compared to a dull 1-0 win followed up by a dull 0-1 defeat.

I’m absolutely buzzing for next season now. I was thinking about how much I’m looking forward to seeing this guy play then I remembered about the young Australian right back, then I started thinking about the young guy we got from Leeds who I’m really excited about seeing too, then there’s the young Gambian guy!

On top of that, I think we’ve still to really see the best of Melkerson and with a good pre-season and in the right team I think he could be excellent too.

Will all these guys meet my high expectations? Probably not in all honesty, if you think that won’t stop me getting carried away though you’re mental.

My only worry about all these players coming in is at some point I’m going to have to learn their names.

[jeffers]

My concern is that, in isolation, a signing like this would bring a bit of excitement. But loads of them getting thrown together and trying to form a team out of them is a different story. Hopefully it comes off and they all click quickly. I think I’m more worried about a number of the players that were already here, and on long contracts, that these guys need to come in and play with.

Agree with all of that.

No club gets all signings right, but our current recruitment team hasn’t exactly done brilliantly so far. Of the January signings I’d argue only Clarke looks the real deal. Mueller was quickly found out to be bang average despite the hype, Jasper flattered to deceive, Rocky we somehow ended up signing despite little in his loan spell to suggest he was worth keeping. Melkersen wasn’t ready for first team action, while Henderson despite having skills looks slow and a bit lightweight.

Yeah I’m probably being overly negative, but if the track record had been better I’d probably be happier with the signings we’ve made this window (Marshall aside.)

[Pretty Boy]

My concern is that, in isolation, a signing like this would bring a bit of excitement. But loads of them getting thrown together and trying to form a team out of them is a different story. Hopefully it comes off and they all click quickly. I think I’m more worried about a number of the players that were already here, and on long contracts, that these guys need to come in and play with.

That's where I am. In isolation I would be quite excited by this signing, in fact I am quite excited by it. When we look like having a big chunk of our squad made up of players with a comparable lack of experience it becomes a concern. It's all very well saying that a lot of them will be left to develop for a year or whaetever but that leaves 2 problems. The first is that football throws curve balls all the time. Melkerson went from development to our main striker in the space of about 10 days last season. Secondly it doesn't directly address our immediate shortcomings for this season. Football is by any measure a short term game; medium to long terms plans only come to fruition if there is relative success and/or progress in the short term.

Trying a new approach is potentially exciting and I'm sure we will find a gem or 2 but there are going to be a lot of disappointments with such an approach as well, it would be a miracle if there wasn't. That's true of any approach to transfers though. Witness people dismissing experienced players, guys from 'St Mirren and League One' and so on as 'cloggers' or 'steady Eddies'. You could probably name a dozen or more who absolutely were flops but you can't just ignore the likes of John McGinn, Martin Boyle, Liam Fontaine, Marvin Bartley, Darren McGregor, David Gray, Scott Allan and Christian Doidge who fall into 1 or more of the former categories and were by almost any measure a success here. We can't just completely turn our back on that approach and brand it a failure because it simply wasn't the case.

[GreenCastle]

Following the post above..

Could see this??

Marshall
Macey- will leave
Dabrowski
Mitchell

McGinn - will leave
Porteous
Doig - will leave
Hanlon - recovering from operation
Clarke
Cadden
Stevenson
Bushiri
Miller
Delferriere / B team
MacIntyre / B team
Mitchell
McGregor - will leave / coaching

Newell
Doyle Hayes
Campbell
Tait - loaned out ?
Hauge - B team
Magennis - will he be fit ?
Henderson
Blaney - B team
Aiken - B team
Hamilton- B team
Kenneh
Mackay - leave / Loan ?
Tavares

Nisbet - injured
Doidge
Melkersen
Bojang
O'Connor - injured / B team

[jeffers]

I think everyone will recognise we need to add some experience to the side, that doesn’t mean we can’t enjoy exciting signings like these as well though. The two things aren’t mutually exclusive.

I know what you mean about the inconsistencies of a young side but **** it, that’s fine with me. If we can be tremendous one week and win 6-0 then follow it up with a 2-0 loss to St Mirren where we don’t get a kick of the ball I’m ok with that compared to a dull 1-0 win followed up by a dull 0-1 defeat.

I’m absolutely buzzing for next season now. I was thinking about how much I’m looking forward to seeing this guy play then I remembered about the young Australian right back, then I started thinking about the young guy we got from Leeds who I’m really excited about seeing too, then there’s the young Gambian guy!

On top of that, I think we’ve still to really see the best of Melkerson and with a good pre-season and in the right team I think he could be excellent too.

Will all these guys meet my high expectations? Probably not in all honesty, if you think that won’t stop me getting carried away though you’re mental.

My only worry about all these players coming in is at some point I’m going to have to learn their names.

I’d never want you to change Bingo, I love your enthusiasm :greengrin

[WestStandMoaner]

:top marks
That's where I am. In isolation I would be quite excited by this signing, in fact I am quite excited by it. When we look like having a big chunk of our squad made up of players with a comparable lack of experience it becomes a concern. It's all very well saying that a lot of them will be left to develop for a year or whaetever but that leaves 2 problems. The first is that football throws curve balls all the time. Melkerson went from development to our main striker in the space of about 10 days last season. Secondly it doesn't directly address our immediate shortcomings for this season. Football is by any measure a short term game; medium to long terms plans only come to fruition if there is relative success and/or progress in the short term.

Trying a new approach is potentially exciting and I'm sure we will find a gem or 2 but there are going to be a lot of disappointments with such an approach as well, it would be a miracle if there wasn't. That's true of any approach to transfers though. Witness people dismissing experienced players, guys from 'St Mirren and League One' and so on as 'cloggers' or 'steady Eddies'. You could probably name a dozen or more who absolutely were flops but you can't just ignore the likes of John McGinn, Martin Boyle, Liam Fontaine, Marvin Bartley, Darren McGregor, David Gray, Scott Allan and Christian Doidge who fall into 1 or more of the former categories and were by almost any measure a success here. We can't just completely turn our back on that approach and brand it a failure because it simply wasn't the case.

:top marks

[bingo70]

I’d never want you to change Bingo, I love your enthusiasm :greengrin

Thanks.

My wife doesn’t seem to care that we’ve signed a young guy that’s basically better than Ronaldinho in his prime so I need to use this place as an outlet for my excitement.

[McGruber]

Following the post above..

Could see this??

Marshall
Macey- will leave
Dabrowski
Mitchell

McGinn - will leave
Porteous
Doig - will leave
Hanlon - recovering from operation
Clarke
Cadden
Stevenson
Bushiri
Miller
Delferriere / B team
MacIntyre / B team
Mitchell
McGregor - will leave / coaching

Newell
Doyle Hayes
Campbell
Tait - loaned out ?
Hauge - B team
Magennis - will he be fit ?
Henderson
Blaney - B team
Aiken - B team
Hamilton- B team
Kenneh
Mackay - leave / Loan ?
Tavares

Nisbet - injured
Doidge
Melkersen
Bojang
O'Connor - injured / B team

There's possibly even more to consider - Bradley on loan at Dundalk doing very well. Laidlaw and Young highly thought of like O'Connor.

Brydon doing well on loan

The B list including the American on loan in the States - looks very athletic, E Johnson. Murray Johnson having been looked at by Man City

There will be other B team players about age enough - J Balde and probably another list of youths not mentioned

It's some size of an operation we're running these days

[jacomo]

Welcome Jair, love the hair.

Cmon peeps let’s be happy!

[Tricla]

Mind and check your absolute junk mail.

😂

[judas]

Tin helmet is ready, but I have to say it.

That squad is too big and, well, a bit gash.

The signings we have made, except Marshall, are at best highly speculative risks. Quite honestly, i don’t think any of them will come close to cutting it in our league.

Is there actually a signing strategy? Or is this the lucky dip method?

As far as the Jair video is concerned, it beggars belief that any experienced Hibs netter would be fooled by a few clips. Have you seen the Stevie Mallan video? It looks like we let Pele go.

I believe its called bed wetting on here.

[bingo70]

Tin helmet is ready, but I have to say it.

That squad is too big and, well, a bit gash.

The signings we have made, except Marshall, are at best highly speculative risks. Quite honestly, i don’t think any of them will come close to cutting it in our league.

Is there actually a signing strategy? Or is this the lucky dip method?

I believe its called bed wetting on here.

Yes, the signing strategy is to sign young players with sell on potential if we can get them to reach their potential. Some are at bigger clubs and will find it easier to get into the team here and some come from lower level leagues where we can find a diamond in the rough.

I’ve no issue with anyone who doesn’t like this strategy (well I do, but I recognise some people want different things), ti suggest there’s no strategy behind what we’re doing just now though is just nonsense. The strategy is clear and obvious, even if it isn’t everyone’s cup of tea.

[Mr. Wonderful]

https://twitter.com/LW_scouting/status/1537105229082140673?t=w0RVs6y77fpVlXgRZEOEPA&s=19

Am I allowed to be concerned or worried yet? Or will I still be met with the deary me brigade and their pitchforks?

[judas]

Yes, the signing strategy is to sign young players with sell on potential if we can get them to reach their potential. Some are at bigger clubs and will find it easier to get into the team here and some come from lower level leagues where we can find a diamond in the rough.

I’ve no issue with anyone who doesn’t like this strategy (well I do, but I recognise some people want different things), ti suggest there’s no strategy behind what we’re doing just now though is just nonsense. The strategy is clear and obvious, even if it isn’t everyone’s cup of tea.

And if all players are mince (as I think they will be) and we are staring relegation in the face. What then?

It’s not a football strategy. It’s a speculative trading game with my football club as the vehicle.

[worcesterhibby]

I think everyone will recognise we need to add some experience to the side, that doesn’t mean we can’t enjoy exciting signings like these as well though. The two things aren’t mutually exclusive.

I know what you mean about the inconsistencies of a young side but **** it, that’s fine with me. If we can be tremendous one week and win 6-0 then follow it up with a 2-0 loss to St Mirren where we don’t get a kick of the ball I’m ok with that compared to a dull 1-0 win followed up by a dull 0-1 defeat.

I’m absolutely buzzing for next season now. I was thinking about how much I’m looking forward to seeing this guy play then I remembered about the young Australian right back, then I started thinking about the young guy we got from Leeds who I’m really excited about seeing too, then there’s the young Gambian guy!

On top of that, I think we’ve still to really see the best of Melkerson and with a good pre-season and in the right team I think he could be excellent too.

Will all these guys meet my high expectations? Probably not in all honesty, if you think that won’t stop me getting carried away though you’re mental.

My only worry about all these players coming in is at some point I’m going to have to learn their names.

im with you Bingo ! I’m delighted to see us thinking outside the box and trying to find some real gems from abroad rather than the usual suspects from St Mirren. This season is going to turn out great…fast paced football, quick throw ins, loading the box and a bunch of exciting young new players….:flag::flag:

[bingo70]

https://twitter.com/LW_scouting/status/1537105229082140673?t=w0RVs6y77fpVlXgRZEOEPA&s=19

Am I allowed to be concerned or worried yet? Or will I still be met with the deary me brigade and their pitchforks?

No, he just won’t get his game if he’s not that good. It’s not the end of the world.

[blackpoolhibs]

We are still quite short of real quality in a few positions, if we are still short of those in August, i will join in with the panic merchants.

[Heisenberg]

Tin helmet is ready, but I have to say it.

That squad is too big and, well, a bit gash.

The signings we have made, except Marshall, are at best highly speculative risks. Quite honestly, i don’t think any of them will come close to cutting it in our league.

Is there actually a signing strategy? Or is this the lucky dip method?

As far as the Jair video is concerned, it beggars belief that any experienced Hibs netter would be fooled by a few clips. Have you seen the Stevie Mallan video? It looks like we let Pele go.

I believe its called bed wetting on here.

None of the signings we’ve made so far (outside of Marshall) make me initially think they are an improvement. Just going to have to wait and see how it goes once the games start.

As you say the squad is massive and we still need to recruit for several other areas. Good few will be leaving I imagine.

[Mr. Wonderful]

No, he just won’t get his game if he’s not that good. It’s not the end of the world.

Excellent so then we're stuck with the same creativity shaped hole as last season and we don't move forward. And for 4 years..

[Alfred E Newman]

Yes, the signing strategy is to sign young players with sell on potential if we can get them to reach their potential. Some are at bigger clubs and will find it easier to get into the team here and some come from lower level leagues where we can find a diamond in the rough.

I’ve no issue with anyone who doesn’t like this strategy (well I do, but I recognise some people want different things), ti suggest there’s no strategy behind what we’re doing just now though is just nonsense. The strategy is clear and obvious, even if it isn’t everyone’s cup of tea.
That's fair enough comment but surely we have to balance that with a competitive league campaign. It's no good pinning all your hopes on youngsters who might make the club a few bob, if we end up finishing mid table or worse again

[bingo70]

And if all players are mince (as I think they will be) and we are staring relegation in the face. What then?

It’s not a football strategy. It’s a speculative trading game with my football club as the vehicle.

If all players are terrible and we lose every game 10-0 then you’re right but what’s the point in creating a hypothetical scenario based on the worst case outcome?

It is a football strategy by the way, a young enthusiastic, exciting team with bags of energy full of players with sell on potential is an alternative to bog standard SPFL players who will do a job but never put bums on seats or create decent transfer revenue is just another way of trying to find success.

I’m delighted with their strategy for my football club FWIW.

[bingo70]

Excellent so then we're stuck with the same creativity shaped hole as last season and we don't move forward. And for 4 years..

You realise you’re worst case scenario hasn’t happened yet?

[Since452]

https://twitter.com/LW_scouting/status/1537105229082140673?t=w0RVs6y77fpVlXgRZEOEPA&s=19

Am I allowed to be concerned or worried yet? Or will I still be met with the deary me brigade and their pitchforks?

Of course you are allowed to be concerned or worried. The same as some of us are allowed to be excited.

[bingo70]

That's fair enough comment but surely we have to balance that with a competitive league campaign. It's no good pinning all your hopes on youngsters who might make the club a few bob, if we end up finishing mid table or worse again

Season doesn’t start for ages yet.

Plenty time to sign some older heads as well.

[Mr. Wonderful]

You realise you’re worst case scenario hasn’t happened yet?

It was your worst case scenario. I presented some data that might suggest concern with the way we're finding these players

[Mr. Wonderful]

Of course you are allowed to be concerned or worried. The same as some of us are allowed to be excited.

Thank you

[Hibernian Verse]

Excellent so then we're stuck with the same creativity shaped hole as last season and we don't move forward. And for 4 years..

Why don’t you give him some games before writing him off? Paul McMullan leads one of those categories I guess we should just sign him?

[bingo70]

It was your worst case scenario. I presented some data that might suggest concern with the way we're finding these players

Did you read the positive data about him and the other players we’ve signed like the guy from Leeds?

[Mr. Wonderful]

Why don’t you give him some games before writing him off? Paul McMullan leads one of those categories I guess we should just sign him?

Yeah he leads the area where he is strongest. Most players will have particular strengths. Mcmullans, as a winger, are pretty good in that area and poor in others.


Tavares seems to be poor to average in all areas, and playing at an underage level.. Concerning

[Mr. Wonderful]

Did you read the positive data about him and the other players we’ve signed like the guy from Leeds?

Yes. Kenneh's data looks promising. Haven't seen any for Bojang

[bingo70]

Did you read the positive data about him and the other players we’ve signed like the guy from Leeds?

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/what-hibs-are-getting-in-benfica-signing-jair-tavares-3733216

Some positive, some negative in that article but all balanced and worth a read.

We can’t sign the finished article so signing someone with positive attributes while working on their weaknesses makes complete sense to me, especially when the positives are potentially very exciting.

[B.H.F.C]

Tin helmet is ready, but I have to say it.

That squad is too big and, well, a bit gash.

The signings we have made, except Marshall, are at best highly speculative risks. Quite honestly, i don’t think any of them will come close to cutting it in our league.

Is there actually a signing strategy? Or is this the lucky dip method?

As far as the Jair video is concerned, it beggars belief that any experienced Hibs netter would be fooled by a few clips. Have you seen the Stevie Mallan video? It looks like we let Pele go.

I believe its called bed wetting on here.

I agree to an extent.

Marshall is the one who definitely strengthens us. Rocky is the only one I can comment on beyond that and he doesn’t improve us IMO.

Whether the rest of them will cut it in this league or not I have no idea. Miller has decent early experience and must have been doing all right, players coming from that league have done all right in the SPFL. The others, who knows. And that’s on top of the likes of Melkersen, Henderson, McKay and Tait who we already have in the squad.

Agree about the quality of the squad but we were always going to have that problem this season with the way we handed out contracts to under performing players last year IMO. Not really sure who we’ll move on. Macey will go. Maybe get Campbell, Tait and/or McKay out on loan. Obviously a chance of Porteous and Doig going but they’re two who actually have a bit quality.

[Lago]

I’ve started replying to a few but stopped mid way through typing. There really isn’t any point. If anybody wants to be miserable about a singing like this then good luck to them, I’m no going to change their mind.

Hopefully there’s a couple of steady Eddie boring signings ahead to keep them happy too. ��
Funny I've just done exactly that, said to myself no point.

[BSEJVT]

Yes. Most joyless, hopeless season since 2014.

A bit like your incessant whining then?

[1648]

My information is Doidge has been told
He is not in LJ's plans. Will he be a big miss night for me. Where he goes will tell us.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Same few posters on here cutting their wrists and moaning about everything and anything, how do they get through their days. :rolleyes:

Do we sign players from bottom 6/lower English leagues and struggle or do we try something a bit different and go for young talented huge potential players. We've watched other teams in the league bring in foreign players and we sit there grumbling why can't Hibs do that and where's our scouting, so we expand our scouting and still they moan.

Cutting their wrists? Wow. Suicide is not a joke subject JC.., Can't believe I'm reading comments like that in 2022

Shame on you

[Since452]

My information is Doidge has been told
He is not in LJ's plans. Will he be a big miss night for me. Where he goes will tell us.

I have a feeling he'll end up at Dundee United with Ross.

[Since452]

Cutting their wrists? Wow. Suicide is not a joke subject JC.., Can't believe I'm reading comments like that in 2022

Shame on you

Lol. Were you not accusing Hibs of slave labour recently?

[J-C]

Cutting their wrists? Wow. Suicide is not a joke subject JC.., Can't believe I'm reading comments like that in 2022

Shame on you


Figure of speech ffs, get a grip. If it worries you that much I'll delete the comment.

[Brooster]

Cutting their wrists? Wow. Suicide is not a joke subject JC.., Can't believe I'm reading comments like that in 2022

Shame on you

I'm surprised you are still around to be honest. Putting the boot in and boring everyone to tears.

[Stuart93]

Cutting their wrists? Wow. Suicide is not a joke subject JC.., Can't believe I'm reading comments like that in 2022

Shame on you

ffs. Just stop.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Figure of speech ffs, get a grip. If it worries you that much I'll delete the comment.

A figure of speech that belittles people who have mental health issues. You do you, mate.

[J-C]

OK, friendlier version for Mr Oagwibble.

Same few posters wetting their knickers because we're trying to do something a bit different than just sign bog standard players from bottom 6 teams or from lower English leagues, cue the moaning and greeting as per usual.

We've watched other teams sign the odd player from abroad and moan that our scouting network is pish and we never seem to do the same. We attempt to do just that and they still moan, I still wonder how many of these bet wetting moaners are actually Hibs fans, never happy no matter what the club does.

[Mr. Wonderful]

I'm surprised you are still around to be honest. Putting the boot in and boring everyone to tears.

It's one of the joys of this site that time after time sharing an opinion that isn't relentlessly positive is seen as putting the boot in or negative.

People like to claim they come on here to read opinions but what they really want is to come on, hear what they want to hear and then log off.

[MWHIBBIES]

Absolute state of this place nowadays.

[Stairway 2 7]

A figure of speech that belittles people who have mental health issues. You do you, mate.

When someone joked that the young African lad coming might be a volunteer, you said slave. Calling people volunteering for the club slaves is disgusting when slavery exists today in the uk. Or we could give people the benefit of the doubt when they are using expressions

[147lothian]

Yeah he leads the area where he is strongest. Most players will have particular strengths. Mcmullans, as a winger, are pretty good in that area and poor in others.


Tavares seems to be poor to average in all areas, and playing at an underage level.. Concerning

Just when I was looking forward to seeing a promising youngster performing in an area of the pitch that needed quality in, you have to bore us with your negative comments, if you have nothing positive to say why bother posting?

[J-C]

It's one of the joys of this site that time after time sharing an opinion that isn't relentlessly positive is seen as putting the boot in or negative.

People like to claim they come on here to read opinions but what they really want is to come on, hear what they want to hear and then log off.


But you and a good few others are constantly negative, no matter what the club do you . We bring in 2-3 young exciting young players and suddenly we're relegation fodder again, you realise the window has only just opened and we're heading for Portugal for pre season, loads of time to trim the squad and bring in the players needed to balance it out.

[Mr. Wonderful]

When someone joked that the young African lad coming might be a volunteer, you said slave. Calling people volunteering for the club slaves is disgusting when slavery exists today in the uk. Or we could give people the benefit of the doubt when they are using expressions

Well that's a gross misrepresentation of what actually happened. 😂

[Stairway 2 7]

It's easy to make a video of successful crosses or shots if you have enough video footage and even taking a player on, the flip side is there could be loads of unsuccessful. But his touch and control is harder to fake, he's clearly got real ability there.

[Iain G]

OK, friendlier version for Mr Oagwibble.

Same few posters wetting their knickers because we're trying to do something a bit different than just sign bog standard players from bottom 6 teams or from lower English leagues, cue the moaning and greeting as per usual.

We've watched other teams sign the odd player from abroad and moan that our scouting network is pish and we never seem to do the same. We attempt to do just that and they still moan, I still wonder how many of these bet wetting moaners are actually Hibs fans, never happy no matter what the club does.

What about those with incontinence issues! Am surprised to read such comments in 2022! Shame on you! 😁

[Stairway 2 7]

Well that's a gross misrepresentation of what actually happened. 😂

Pain in the arse when people run with innocent thing to try and get the high ground eh

[J-C]

What about those with incontinence issues! Am surprised to read such comments in 2022! Shame on you! 😁


I'm at an age that if I'm not close to a loo, incontinence is a distinct possibility, so I can sympathise with them. :greengrin

[Viva_Palmeiras]

My information is Doidge has been told
He is not in LJ's plans. Will he be a big miss night for me. Where he goes will tell us.

Is this some kind of riddle? Tell us what?

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Just when I was looking forward to seeing a promising youngster performing in an area of the pitch that needed quality in, you have to bore us with your negative comments, if you have nothing positive to say why bother posting?

Has no one figured of what the anagram of his name is yet?

No me neither.

Folks the ignore button feature is there. I very rarely use it but it does work.

[Libby Hibby]

Welcome Jair

[One Day Soon]

Welcome Jair

Given the tone of this thread is are you making a statement or giving an instruction?

[Iain G]

Has no one figured of what the anagram of his name is yet?

No me neither.

Folks the ignore button feature is there. I very rarely use it but it does work.

Morag W Bible? 🤷🏻*♂️🤣

[Callum_62]

Hibs and Lee Johnson are excited with this signing

Lee Johnson said: “Completing the deal to bring Jair to Hibernian FC is a real coup for this football club.

“He’s an incredibly talented winger that’ll not only improve our First Team squad, but is someone that has a lot of potential to develop into a top player in this league.

“Jair is an exciting, attacking talent that adds speed and trickery to our wide areas. We welcome him warmly to Hibs and look forward to working with him.

“I’d also like to thank the staff at Hibernian FC, Benfica, Jair’s father Adriano, and his agent for their work in getting this deal done.”

Head of Recruitment Ian Gordon added: “It’s not often you are able to get a player of Jair’s quality for the terms agreed in this transfer.

“He’s a player we’ve monitored closely for a period of time and were able to take advantage of a specific clause in his contract. He is a real talent that’ll only get better.”



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[Iain G]

Hibs and Lee Johnson are excited with this signing

Lee Johnson said: “Completing the deal to bring Jair to Hibernian FC is a real coup for this football club.

“He’s an incredibly talented winger that’ll not only improve our First Team squad, but is someone that has a lot of potential to develop into a top player in this league.

“Jair is an exciting, attacking talent that adds speed and trickery to our wide areas. We welcome him warmly to Hibs and look forward to working with him.

“I’d also like to thank the staff at Hibernian FC, Benfica, Jair’s father Adriano, and his agent for their work in getting this deal done.”

Head of Recruitment Ian Gordon added: “It’s not often you are able to get a player of Jair’s quality for the terms agreed in this transfer.

“He’s a player we’ve monitored closely for a period of time and were able to take advantage of a specific clause in his contract. He is a real talent that’ll only get better.”



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Can't work out why you wouldn't be excited about this! We want to play attacking and entertaining football (I read that on here so must be true) and this guy fits in with that! Well done Hibs! Keep em coming 😁

[BoomtownHibees]

Hibs and Lee Johnson are excited with this signing

Lee Johnson said: “Completing the deal to bring Jair to Hibernian FC is a real coup for this football club.

“He’s an incredibly talented winger that’ll not only improve our First Team squad, but is someone that has a lot of potential to develop into a top player in this league.

“Jair is an exciting, attacking talent that adds speed and trickery to our wide areas. We welcome him warmly to Hibs and look forward to working with him.

“I’d also like to thank the staff at Hibernian FC, Benfica, Jair’s father Adriano, and his agent for their work in getting this deal done.”

Head of Recruitment Ian Gordon added: “It’s not often you are able to get a player of Jair’s quality for the terms agreed in this transfer.

“He’s a player we’ve monitored closely for a period of time and were able to take advantage of a specific clause in his contract. He is a real talent that’ll only get better.”



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Aye but Paul Mcmullan has got better stats

[cabbageandribs1875]

welcome to Hibernian Jair

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Just when I was looking forward to seeing a promising youngster performing in an area of the pitch that needed quality in, you have to bore us with your negative comments, if you have nothing positive to say why bother posting?

Has no one figured of what the anagram of his name is yet?

No me neither.

Folks the ignore button feature is there. I very rarely use it but it does work.

[Sir David Gray]

Tavares getting number 10.

[Manxhibs]

This lad is going to be brilliant, can’t wait to see him at Easter road as part of a new attacking line up

[Unseen work]

Don’t know how I feel about Tavares getting the number 10, it’s a hell of alot of pressure for a young lad.

Everyone will now 100% view him as Boyles replacement and compare him as such.

Makes you think he’ll be going straight into the first team to play a big part.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Aye but Paul Mcmullan has got better stats

😂😂😂

[Callum_62]

Don’t know how I feel about Tavares getting the number 10, it’s a hell of alot of pressure for a young lad.

Everyone will now 100% view him as Boyles replacement and compare him as such.

Makes you think he’ll be going straight into the first team to play a big part.Based on the managers comments that seemed a certainly before we knew his squad number

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[Unseen work]

Based on the managers comments that seemed a certainly before we knew his squad number

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Very true.

Must admit I’m always a bit sceptical about managers comments when it’s a player I’m not sure they know that well and it may be a recruitment team find.

Promising they hold him in such high regard though

[Stevie Reid]

I think everyone will recognise we need to add some experience to the side, that doesn’t mean we can’t enjoy exciting signings like these as well though. The two things aren’t mutually exclusive.

I know what you mean about the inconsistencies of a young side but **** it, that’s fine with me. If we can be tremendous one week and win 6-0 then follow it up with a 2-0 loss to St Mirren where we don’t get a kick of the ball I’m ok with that compared to a dull 1-0 win followed up by a dull 0-1 defeat.

I’m absolutely buzzing for next season now. I was thinking about how much I’m looking forward to seeing this guy play then I remembered about the young Australian right back, then I started thinking about the young guy we got from Leeds who I’m really excited about seeing too, then there’s the young Gambian guy!

On top of that, I think we’ve still to really see the best of Melkerson and with a good pre-season and in the right team I think he could be excellent too.

Will all these guys meet my high expectations? Probably not in all honesty, if you think that won’t stop me getting carried away though you’re mental.

My only worry about all these players coming in is at some point I’m going to have to learn their names.

Hear hear. Was totally scunnered at the end of last season, and couldn’t wait for the league to end - now I can’t wait until we get back again so we can see these new guys in action.

I find every close season exciting, as expectations rise for the season to come - I’d be really worried if I didn’t feel that way tbh. Obviously signings like this could see us unearth a superstar, or we may see him leave in a couple of years having made no impression - or somewhere in between. I choose to focus on the former.

[SHODAN]

Tavares getting number 10.

Very much a first team pick right from the start then.

[Iain G]

Very much a first team pick right from the start then.

Is that the A team 10 or the B team 10 though? 😉

[CropleyWasGod]

Tavares getting number 10.

No club car?

[Sir David Gray]

Very much a first team pick right from the start then.

Yep looks like he's going to be the focal point of our attack.

Hibs obviously expecting big things from him.

[The Spaceman]

This is certainly going down as our most interesting window in a while. Do not have a clue regarding any of our signings which has me probably excited and terrified in equal measure. Bring it on!

[bingo70]

Yep looks like he's going to be the focal point of our attack.

Hibs obviously expecting big things from him.

I think you’re taking a bit much from his squad number.

[Callum_62]

I think you’re taking a bit much from his squad number.Think it's more than the squad number

Welcoming Tavares to Easter Road, Manager Lee Johnson said: “Completing the deal to bring Jair to Hibernian FC is a real coup for this football club.

“He’s an incredibly talented winger that’ll not only improve our First Team squad, but is someone that has a lot of potential to develop into a top player in this league.



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[Sir David Gray]

I think you’re taking a bit much from his squad number.

Who was the last player we had who wore the number 10 shirt but wasn't a major part of the team?

I know squad numbers are a bit different to 30 years ago but I genuinely can't recall any number 10 being a fringe player in the past.

Add the above to the fact Hibs have made a huge deal of his signing and I would be surprised if he's not going to be a major part of our attack next season.

[J-C]

Don’t know how I feel about Tavares getting the number 10, it’s a hell of alot of pressure for a young lad.

Everyone will now 100% view him as Boyles replacement and compare him as such.

Makes you think he’ll be going straight into the first team to play a big part.


Of course they will, he is Boyles replacement.

[WeeRussell]

Lol. Were you not accusing Hibs of slave labour recently?

Oh.. you might have him there Mr S!

[Mr. Wonderful]

Oh.. you might have him there Mr S!

Have me for what? Calling Ron's exploitation of people's love for the club out for what it is?

[Ronniekirk]

Marshal apart none of our new signings have first team experience Rocky has but not convinced the Manager wanted him
The reality is no one knows how these players will adjust to our game and if they will turn out to be any good
Time will tell
But what is clear is that we now need a few experienced players in who are proven at a decent level
We now have enough promising players and as we have seen it doesn’t always work out
I feel reserve judgement till we have our full squad and have seen how they do in the first quarter of the new campaign
I can’t get excited about potential as it may not be fulfilled But I hope with a few experienced players added we then have the right balance

[Unseen work]

Some comparison stats of Tavares and players in the SPFL from last season

https://twitter.com/lw_scouting/status/1537105229082140673?s=21&t=uvnKCZK6Mo2jqDV7Jw-L2g

[NAE NOOKIE]

Hear hear. Was totally scunnered at the end of last season, and couldn’t wait for the league to end - now I can’t wait until we get back again so we can see these new guys in action.

I find every close season exciting, as expectations rise for the season to come - I’d be really worried if I didn’t feel that way tbh. Obviously signings like this could see us unearth a superstar, or we may see him leave in a couple of years having made no impression - or somewhere in between. I choose to focus on the former.

There's no doubt about that, but its a mixture of excitement and trepidation for me. So many young players signed on nothing more than a hope that they can transfer a fair amount of potential into something akin to a top 4 Scottish premiership team. There's really no way of knowing whether it will be a spectacular success, a bit hit or miss, or a spectacular crash and burn .... interesting times as they say :greengrin

[FilipinoHibs]

Welcome Jair from my mother's home city and her team to the Hibs.

[WeeRussell]

Have me for what? Calling Ron's exploitation of people's love for the club out for what it is?

Yeah, that 👍

[joe t]

Seems that both Panathanaikos and Stuttgart were looking to sign Tavares in January. Sounds like these deals never went through as the transfer basis was more developmental on their part. Given the 10 jersey and us getting the signing, this lad is very much first team for us. Weird 50/50 ownership deal possibly as think he had mental high £30 mill release clause from young age. If anyone can be bothered contacting journo Pedro Sepulveda he should be able to offer more info.

[Greencore]

Welcome Jair, hope he hits the ground running.

[sadtom]

Aw the best Jair. Hope you do the biz.

I wonder if him getting the No 10 means McGeady ain’t happening?
Would have thought if a deal was close he would have been the obvious candidate for that jersey.

[WeeRussell]

Aw the best Jair. Hope you do the biz.

I wonder if him getting the No 10 means McGeady ain’t happening?
Would have thought if a deal was close he would have been the obvious candidate for that jersey.

I wouldn’t say so, Tom. I don’t think Mcgeady’s ever worn 10 for a first team, club or Ireland.

[sadtom]

I wouldn’t say so, Tom. I don’t think Mcgeady’s ever worn 10 for a first team, club or Ireland.

Fair enough. Though I suspect he would be used more centrally these days in an area more typical of the shirt (but I don’t honestly know). Also he is proven at a high level and has the experience to take the responsibility of the things associated with the number (being the main man or playmaker etc) so unlikely to be phased by it. I felt it would be a more obvious call if he was close to being signed.
I’m aware it’s only a number but it’s a pretty bold move for a young inexperienced laddie to want it I reckon. Maybe a good sign that he has that confidence in himself though I can’t help feel he’s added extra pressure to his performances, that he didn’t need to. In what is a debut season in a new country.
But again…it’s only a number.

[04Sauzee]

Fair enough. Though I suspect he would be used more centrally these days in an area more typical of the shirt (but I don’t honestly know). Also he is proven at a high level and has the experience to take the responsibility of the things associated with the number (being the main man or playmaker etc) so unlikely to be phased by it. I felt it would be a more obvious call if he was close to being signed.
I’m aware it’s only a number but it’s a pretty bold move for a young inexperienced laddie to want it I reckon. Maybe a good sign that he has that confidence in himself though I can’t help feel he’s added extra pressure to his performances, that he didn’t need to. In what is a debut season in a new country.
But again…it’s only a number.
Looks like he's had a few numbers over his career
https://i.ibb.co/6XS9pJM/Screenshot-2022-06-16-07-43-37-90-40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg (https://ibb.co/QDVSqjg)

[Wedge]

A Tricky winger at last. Can I be the first to say "He's here, he's Jair, he's every f@!#£%g where"!

[Paloschi]

Very exciting signing. Liking the look of the squad now and think we need just 3-4 more.

If we are indeed looking at a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 then I think we need a strong centre forward to compliment Nisbet, Melkerson and Tavares with Bojang and Doidge (if he stays) back up. I wonder if the plan for Mitchell is to play left wing or part of a front 3?

Marshall

Clarke
Porto
New cb
Doig

Cadden
Kenneh (or new cm)
Magennis

Tavares
Nisbet
Mitchell

Coming along nice!

[Since452]

Very exciting signing. Liking the look of the squad now and think we need just 3-4 more.

If we are indeed looking at a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 then I think we need a strong centre forward to compliment Nisbet, Melkerson and Tavares with Bojang and Doidge (if he stays) back up. I wonder if the plan for Mitchell is to play left wing or part of a front 3?

Marshall

Clarke
Porto
New cb
Doig

Cadden
Kenneh (or new cm)
Magennis

Tavares
Nisbet
Mitchell

Coming along nice!

Yup i agree. We aren't far away from having a very decent squad. There are some very good players in there. Players back from injury and an experienced manager has really got me looking foward to the season starting.

[Willis1875]

Very exciting signing. Liking the look of the squad now and think we need just 3-4 more.

If we are indeed looking at a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 then I think we need a strong centre forward to compliment Nisbet, Melkerson and Tavares with Bojang and Doidge (if he stays) back up. I wonder if the plan for Mitchell is to play left wing or part of a front 3?

Marshall

Clarke
Porto
New cb
Doig

Cadden
Kenneh (or new cm)
Magennis

Tavares
Nisbet
Mitchell

Coming along nice!

Looks decent although I’m not too keen on Mitchell being part of a front 3,to me that formation needs all 3 attacking players to be primarily forward players.
Using Liverpool as an example purely because that’s the first team I thought of that plays a formation like that,I don’t think you would see Andy Robertson or TAA playing where Mane or Salah play

[SHODAN]

I wouldn’t say so, Tom. I don’t think Mcgeady’s ever worn 10 for a first team, club or Ireland.

McGeady's number at Celtic was #46 and he reversed it at Spartak to #64, don't think he's too bothered about low squad numbers.

[ZitellZeTime]

Says his cousin is Renato Sanches in to joining us, an maybe Get that Arsenal boy Nuno Tavares to coime to us too, same surname so could help.

Sounds like a Lee Johnson signing though, or one he picked from a few picked up by scouting anyway, not like the Mueller one. The way he's talking about the boy it sounds like that though, thinks he going to go on an be a top player and eventually one of the top players in the league. Never seeen him play but boss man knows more about a talent than me so hopefully he's even close to being correct, left, right or centre too. Also looks like a gid player lol.

On Mcgeady, has anyone saw him play last year? I haven't was an amazing player, but last I heard they loaned him out second half of 19/20 but then returned to Sunderland and got player of the year for the 20/21 season, only played 14 games for them last year though and is going to be 37 by seasons end, would he just be coming in as a squad player? I never saw him play in any of the games last year, but 14 in league and 16 in all competitions isn't great for a team that plays in a league with so many gams a season alone, plus Im unsure how many were even starts. Maybe coming up as a squad player as he wants to retire up here.

[Dashing Bob S]

Seems a lot of expectations heaped onto this guys shoulders. A bit unfair on him.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Seems a lot of expectations heaped onto this guys shoulders. A bit unfair on him.

Why? If he can't handle pressure he shouldn't be playing

[J-C]

Looks decent although I’m not too keen on Mitchell being part of a front 3,to me that formation needs all 3 attacking players to be primarily forward players.
Using Liverpool as an example purely because that’s the first team I thought of that plays a formation like that,I don’t think you would see Andy Robertson or TAA playing where Mane or Salah play

Mitchell is an attacking winger who can slot in at LWB if needed, he played there for Hearts and Blackpool, there'll be 4 players all vying for the wide positions, good competition.

[MKHIBEE]

Why? If he can't handle pressure he shouldn't be playing

Who said he can’t handle pressure?

[nickwhibs]

A Tricky winger at last. Can I be the first to say "He's here, he's Jair, he's every f@!#£%g where"!

Haha like it 👍

[HoboHarry]

A Tricky winger at last. Can I be the first to say "He's here, he's Jair, he's every f@!#£%g where"!
Certainly, consider yourself nominated for .netter of the week :greengrin

[Renfrew_Hibby]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pSn5XTTOFC0

Dunno if this link already been posted.

[Eyrie]

A Tricky winger at last. Can I be the first to say "He's here, he's Jair, he's every f@!#£%g where"!

:not worth

[Dalianwanda]

Why? If he can't handle pressure he shouldn't be playing

:rolleyes:

No ones said he cant handle it...How he'll deal with it or how he'll develop. So he may be under more expection than he's been through before & hopefully he either learns through experience or support...or...just takes it in his stride..

Hes playing because he's good at playing....

[JimBHibees]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pSn5XTTOFC0

Dunno if this link already been posted.

Looks sensational in some of those clips. He will need some protection in the Scottish league

[JohnM1875]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pSn5XTTOFC0

Dunno if this link already been posted.

Oft, he looks class! I've been stung by a YouTube compilation before though so I'll reserve my excitement until I've seen him do it for us. But he does look the business.

[JimBHibees]

Oft, he looks class! I've been stung by a YouTube compilation before though so I'll reserve my excitement until I've seen him do it for us. But he does look the business.

Agree they don't show the times he trips over the ball :greengrin

[Callum_62]

I wonder what the thing was with his contract and who found out this information

If hes as good as hoped might be a massive + to our head of recruitment....

[Scottie]

https://i.ibb.co/59L6M1m/20220616-103445.jpgWhen was the last time we had a player with such wonderful dreadlock's ? Jimmy Boco maybe :dunno:

[green day]

I do hope that Doidge and Nisbet are getting sharpened up to hit that 6 yard box - if we manage to get McGeady and this guy throwing in the crosses it will be pretty exciting...........but only if we manage to convert a few !

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Welcome to Hibs, I seen from the video clips he likes to play on both sides. What's his preferred wing?

Nando's?

[MKHIBEE]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pSn5XTTOFC0

Dunno if this link already been posted.

Now we need a video of him tracking back and doing defensive duties:wink:

[Keith_M]

OK, friendlier version for Mr Oagwibble.

Same few posters wetting their knickers because we're trying to do something a bit different than just sign bog standard players from bottom 6 teams or from lower English leagues, cue the moaning and greeting as per usual.
....


How dare you make fun of people with incontinence issues.

Have you no shame?


:grr:











Oops, just peed ma pants laughing there, sorry :wink:

[J-C]

How dare you make fun of people with incontinence issues.

Have you no shame?


:grr:











Oops, just peed ma pants laughing there, sorry :wink:

:greengrin

[The Spaceman]

https://i.ibb.co/59L6M1m/20220616-103445.jpgWhen was the last time we had a player with such wonderful dreadlock's ? Jimmy Boco maybe :dunno:

Stephane Omeonga to an extent?

[Since452]

He looks class. Could become a cult hero. We've not had one of those for a while. That's important for for the fans I reckon.

[CapitalGreen]

He looks class. Could become a cult hero. We've not had one of those for a while. That's important for for the fans I reckon.

Or even just a regular hero.

[Mr. Wonderful]

:rolleyes:

No ones said he cant handle it...How he'll deal with it or how he'll develop. So he may be under more expection than he's been through before & hopefully he either learns through experience or support...or...just takes it in his stride..

Hes playing because he's good at playing....

And neither have I.

[theonlywayisup]

Didn't watch the whole of the 1st half, but from what I saw he looks a good player, comfortable on the ball in tight situations. Good first impressions.

[hibsbollah]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pSn5XTTOFC0

Dunno if this link already been posted.

I KNOW he won't be anywhere near his level, but just in terms of style of dribble he's just like Ronaldinho..that hover the foot over the ball thing and then a big exaggerated cut. You can tell some SPFL clogger will stamp on those ankles a few times this season.

[Northernhibee]

I KNOW he won't be anywhere near his level, but just in terms of style of dribble he's just like Ronaldinho..that hover the foot over the ball thing and then a big exaggerated cut. You can tell some SPFL clogger will stamp on those ankles a few times this season.

I know it's a strange thing to notice but I love how body language when he gets the ball in a tight space. Chest puffed out, on his toes and ready to move in any direction but not in a rush to do so. Almost beckoning the defender to make the first move and then he'll go the other way. Shows a lot of confidence and awareness.

[One Day Soon]

A player with tricks who can also pick a good pass - and chooses the pass as often as the trick - is worth their weight in gold if they can do it regularly. Lots of fingers crossed on this one.

[Northernhibee]

A player with tricks who can also pick a good pass - and chooses the pass as often as the trick - is worth their weight in gold if they can do it regularly. Lots of fingers crossed on this one.

My complaint I had with Jasper is that more often than not we didn't reach a conclusion of an attack when he had the ball - either a shot on goal, a goal, or a corner kick. He'd get caught in possession and the opposition would get a chance to counter.

The amount of times that Tavares has tried to get to the byline, been matched by pace for his opposition player but still been able to win a corner has been excellent, it all helps us keep possession and pressure on the opposition.

[worcesterhibby]

I can't believe how much I'm looking forward to this season...what a turnaround !

[ian cruise]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pSn5XTTOFC0

Dunno if this link already been posted.

I know highlights reels are made of carefully selected clips to show their best moments but there's no one in the Hibs team of last few seasons bar Boyle who you could make a show reel like that, similar story with most of the other teams ij the league. Jair has such fast feet.

I suspect his end product might be left wanting a bit initially but that can be worked on and improved, look at Sproule, Boyle and a great example is McGeady early in his career. I just hope the fans are patient with him because we could have a new star man on the wing.

[Since452]

I can't believe how much I'm looking forward to this season...what a turnaround !

Feel exactly the same. Was beginning to feel like I'd rather do something else on a Saturday under Maloney. Now I'm really excited about a league cup group stage game against Clyde. Really keen to see this team grow.

[Unseen work]

Must admit I’ve not been as impressed as others seem to have been.

That’s not a knock on him or criticising him, I just think he’s been pretty quiet in the two 45 minutes he’s played. I understand why some are really excited though.

I sometimes think some players are better in friendlies and I think he’s one that will be better in the competitive games. For example I think McLellend has looked good at centre half but once we’re playing St Johnstone etc who are launching balls in the box we could see a different player. Bigger pitches and with a crowd behind him will hopefully bring the best out of Tavares.

I’d keep playing him so he gets used to the league and standards, he can only improve.

[Mcbizz1998]

Looks and upgrade on Jasper already. He has the trickery but also links well and plays a pass.

Hope he plays v Clyde.

[Scooter]

Must admit I’ve not been as impressed as others seem to have been.

That’s not a knock on him or criticising him, I just think he’s been pretty quiet in the two 45 minutes he’s played. I understand why some are really excited though.

I sometimes think some players are better in friendlies and I think he’s one that will be better in the competitive games. For example I think McLellend has looked good at centre half but once we’re playing St Johnstone etc who are launching balls in the box we could see a different player. Bigger pitches and with a crowd behind him will hopefully bring the best out of Tavares.

I’d keep playing him so he gets used to the league and standards, he can only improve.

I actually agree with you

[JammyDoidger]

Must admit I’ve not been as impressed as others seem to have been.

That’s not a knock on him or criticising him, I just think he’s been pretty quiet in the two 45 minutes he’s played. I understand why some are really excited though.

I sometimes think some players are better in friendlies and I think he’s one that will be better in the competitive games. For example I think McLellend has looked good at centre half but once we’re playing St Johnstone etc who are launching balls in the box we could see a different player. Bigger pitches and with a crowd behind him will hopefully bring the best out of Tavares.

I’d keep playing him so he gets used to the league and standards, he can only improve.

Agree, we've seen nowt yet. Hopefully he will put on a show in the cup next week in a proper game.

[Nicho87]

Couple of decent runs and tricks so far

Think he will have a stronger impact 4/5 months after he settles

Scottish football is very physical might take him a bit to adapt to that.

More upper muscle strengthening I think will be on the list for him.

All positive though, there’s a player in there

[Lendo]

The pitch for the friendlies looked pretty small. Hopefully being on a bigger one will give him the space and time he needs on the ball

[bingo70]

Interesting for our first goal yesterday he made a run beyond the ball, not something we saw much of last season.

Might just have contributed to Youan getting that bit space to get his shot away.

[Johnny_Leith]

Interesting for our first goal yesterday he made a run beyond the ball, not something we saw much of last season.

Might just have contributed to Youan getting that bit space to get his shot away.

Definitely.

You can see in his movement and use of the ball he's great tactical awareness, even though he's only played 90 minutes so far he's creating space and comfortable on the ball.

If we can get him into isolated positions throughout the seasons I'd expect goals and assists but otherwise he looks a clever team player who's willing to work hard.

More to come but a promising start.

[Unseen work]

Definitely.

You can see in his movement and use of the ball he's great tactical awareness, even though he's only played 90 minutes so far he's creating space and comfortable on the ball.

If we can get him into isolated positions throughout the seasons I'd expect goals and assists but otherwise he looks a clever team player who's willing to work hard.

More to come but a promising start.

I think this shows how beneficial it can be for a player to sign in the summer.

There’s a real feel good factor at the moment and everyone is excited again, players like Tavares are getting praised massively and people so far are being patient (rightly so).

But I wonder what peoples thoughts would have been if he signed in January.

I’m meaning more so because of Jasper, I think he was such an exciting young player with so much skill. In the end people got fed up of him because the team and manager were really struggling.

If he signed this summer and showed the skill he’s capable of in the first two friendlies I imagine everyone would be waxing lyrical about him.

I really do think Johnson is bringing back a feel good atmosphere though that hopefully brings the best out of everyone.

[ahibby]

I think this shows how beneficial it can be for a player to sign in the summer.

There’s a real feel good factor at the moment and everyone is excited again, players like Tavares are getting praised massively and people so far are being patient (rightly so).

But I wonder what peoples thoughts would have been if he signed in January.

I’m meaning more so because of Jasper, I think he was such an exciting young player with so much skill. In the end people got fed up of him because the team and manager were really struggling.

If he signed this summer and showed the skill he’s capable of in the first two friendlies I imagine everyone would be waxing lyrical about him.

I really do think Johnson is bringing back a feel good atmosphere though that hopefully brings the best out of everyone.

The late great Eddie Turnbull said you build a team from the back. I think we are still a bit light there. Miller is a good acquisition but his main strength is going forward a bit like Cadden. We need another CB, two if Porto leaves. Tavares is another good signing and hopefully gets into positions to assist in goals and not just entertain us on the ball. Dont see him scoring many so hopefully he gets a good number of assists.

[ian cruise]

I think this shows how beneficial it can be for a player to sign in the summer.

There’s a real feel good factor at the moment and everyone is excited again, players like Tavares are getting praised massively and people so far are being patient (rightly so).

But I wonder what peoples thoughts would have been if he signed in January.

I’m meaning more so because of Jasper, I think he was such an exciting young player with so much skill. In the end people got fed up of him because the team and manager were really struggling.

If he signed this summer and showed the skill he’s capable of in the first two friendlies I imagine everyone would be waxing lyrical about him.

I really do think Johnson is bringing back a feel good atmosphere though that hopefully brings the best out of everyone.

Not sure it was the window that was the issue and more the management. We've seen players come in during the winter window and have great success (Flo and McLaren for example). Jasper started well but it looked like the creativity was being coached out him, I felt the same about Melkerson.

I think Jasper would fared better in this team however where Jair benefits over him is Jair has pace to burn as well as fast feet, Jasper definitely wasn't as quick.

[jacomo]

I think this shows how beneficial it can be for a player to sign in the summer.

There’s a real feel good factor at the moment and everyone is excited again, players like Tavares are getting praised massively and people so far are being patient (rightly so).

But I wonder what peoples thoughts would have been if he signed in January.

I’m meaning more so because of Jasper, I think he was such an exciting young player with so much skill. In the end people got fed up of him because the team and manager were really struggling.

If he signed this summer and showed the skill he’s capable of in the first two friendlies I imagine everyone would be waxing lyrical about him.

I really do think Johnson is bringing back a feel good atmosphere though that hopefully brings the best out of everyone.


Tavares might well be an upgrade on Jasper, but I do think Jasper will become a good player.

Being signed mid-season and trying to play Maloneyball didn’t help him.

[Stanton Spence]

Tavares might well be an upgrade on Jasper, but I do think Jasper will become a good player.

Being signed mid-season and trying to play Maloneyball didn’t help him.He was absolutely murder in that game against Dundee and Maloney had been sacked few weeks before that so I don't think we can blame Maloneyball for his performances and it now seems that Maloneyball is getting the blame for every player who didn't perform last season
I do agree that Maloney was clueless but some players just weren't good enough under Ross Maloney and Gray

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[jacomo]

He was absolutely murder in that game against Dundee and Maloney had been sacked few weeks before that so I don't think we can blame Maloneyball for his performances and it now seems that Maloneyball is getting the blame for every player who didn't perform last season
I do agree that Maloney was clueless but some players just weren't good enough under Ross Maloney and Gray

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Jasper didn’t play under Ross, SDG for whatever reason kept things much the same after Maloney was sacked so little chance to see an improvement. I maintain he is a promising player.

I’m comfortable blaming Maloney for most of our problems in the second half of the season, he was hopeless.

[Northernhibee]

He was absolutely murder in that game against Dundee and Maloney had been sacked few weeks before that so I don't think we can blame Maloneyball for his performances and it now seems that Maloneyball is getting the blame for every player who didn't perform last season
I do agree that Maloney was clueless but some players just weren't good enough under Ross Maloney and Gray

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I'd have loved to have seen in Jasper what some people thought of him but I honestly think he'll be one of those players you find in the seventh or eighth tier of English football doing a lot of tricks and stepovers but not actually producing a great deal. His decision making was abysmal, passing poor, got himself into trouble a lot and was generally quite lightweight.

Occasionally could put a good ball into the box but more often than not was the living definition of "flatters to deceive".

A lot more hopeful about Tavares. First thought appears to be to hit the byline and get the ball forward and in the box, then to pass sideways or back to retain possession and then if that's not possible to win a set piece or throw in.

A lot of confidence, quick feet and I think he'll be very good.

[Unseen work]

Tavares might well be an upgrade on Jasper, but I do think Jasper will become a good player.

Being signed mid-season and trying to play Maloneyball didn’t help him.

I hope so, I’ve not seen anything of him so far to say he 100% will. I rated Jasper though and think he could have done well in a better team.

But like I said that’s based on two pre season friendlies on a small pitch so unfair to judge him.

Will take him a while to adjust I’m sure but the more games he gets the better he gets!

[FilipinoHibs]

Portuguese football is very physical. Like the SPL with a little more skill. He knows when to pass when there is nothing on unlike Kasperm

[patlowe]

I'd have loved to have seen in Jasper what some people thought of him but I honestly think he'll be one of those players you find in the seventh or eighth tier of English football doing a lot of tricks and stepovers but not actually producing a great deal. His decision making was abysmal, passing poor, got himself into trouble a lot and was generally quite lightweight.

Occasionally could put a good ball into the box but more often than not was the living definition of "flatters to deceive".

A lot more hopeful about Tavares. First thought appears to be to hit the byline and get the ball forward and in the box, then to pass sideways or back to retain possession and then if that's not possible to win a set piece or throw in.

A lot of confidence, quick feet and I think he'll be very good.

I'm not sure there's much we can take from those friendlies, other than the team looked hungry, energetic and are probably better than League 2/lower League 1. I'm pretty sure Jasper would've also shone out there in that environment - sun, nice pitch, no pressure etc. Not making a negative judgement on Tavares, just think we need to wait and see when the tests are more robust and intense.

I do think you are being harsh on Jasper - I agree he was very frustrating when with us (in very difficult circumstances) but his potential is still very high. Still young (U21 international) and I would be amazed if the English seventh/eighth tiers are littered with players of his ability.

[basehibby]

A lot to prove for Tavares- he looks impressive on a sun kissed pitch in Portugal. Can he translate that to a slogfest on a wintry pitch at Tynie with the tackles flying in? Here's hoping!