Lewis Miller

[Edina Street]

Hibs have signed 21 year-old right-back, and Australian under 23 international, Lewis Miller, from Central Coast Mariners.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Miller_(soccer)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laab1kJb42I

[Dashing Bob S]

Strewth! Any good? Last Aussie we signed from Tayside didn’t do badly

[BoomtownHibees]

No way!!!

[Lendo]

No way!!!

Is this an excited “no way”? I hope so as I’ve never heard of him.

[hfcok]

Mates in Australia have said he is Solid defending,tough tackling right back way better than Paul mgginnz

[BoomtownHibees]

Is this an excited “no way”? I hope so as I’ve never heard of him.

Na. A sarcastic “no way” as it was announced ages ago and discussed on the summer transfer thread

[Eyrie]

I think I've got about 22-23 pages to catch up on if I read the main transfer thread (no chance) so a separate one to discuss Miller makes sense.

Odd signing given that we already have Clarke, Cadden and McGinn for RB, so I wonder if Clarke will be back and if Cadden may be moved into midfield.

[Mr. Wonderful]

I think he will be excellent

[ahibby]

Na. A sarcastic “no way” as it was announced ages ago and discussed on the summer transfer thread

But we just beat off loads of opposition to land him.

[CropleyWasGod]

But we just beat off loads of opposition to land him.

Changed days. A decent signing-on fee used to be enough.

[007]

Changed days. A decent signing-on fee used to be enough.

😃
A happy ending though.

[Tambo]

Not seen him before but sounds a good prospect? Maybe the lads who watch the Aussie league will have a better opinion.

[Stuart93]

Not seen him before but sounds a good prospect? Maybe the lads who watch the Aussie league will have a better opinion.

Aye where’s forza fred

[danhibees1875]

Changed days. A decent signing-on fee used to be enough.

:faf:

[Sproule Three]

Not seen him before but sounds a good prospect? Maybe the lads who watch the Aussie league will have a better opinion.

I posted this already on the transfer thread - copy and pasted here

I know a fair bit about this lad
He’d just signed for McCarthur in the A league after a good season with Central Coast - Jason Cummings team.
In the current Aus U23 squad
He’s from my local area - Northern Beaches of Sydney
I know a few lads who played with him in the local junior system.
Boy I work with captains the current team that three of Lewis’ good mates are now playing with. They all came up the development system together but he was only one that made pro

Big strong and athletic .
Been a standout at A league but SPL is different gravy
His best position is RWB the best posituon of two of our best players last season Cadden and Clarke .
Hard to fathom why they’d be be signing another unless Clarke will be more of a CB

[Unseen work]

Considering I’ve never seen him play and only recently learned he is existed I’m absolutely buzzing with this 😅

From reading up on him and watching his clips on YouTube (I know) he just looks like an all action player that will suit this league. His style reminds me alot of Clarke and having players like that driving us forward from deep will make us so much better to watch.

He’s also massive for his age and doesn’t look like he’ll struggle physically.

I wonder if this means Clarke is being recalled or maybe being moved to a centre mid position. Personally can’t see him playing centre half and imo Johnson will want proper wingers as part of the front 3.

I actually can’t see Cadden being a first pick.

[Forza Fred]

Aye where’s forza fred

Here I am!

This is a very good signing.

He is a right back who likes to get forward and it wouldn’t surprise me to see him go straight into action in the first team…although obviously it will take him a while to adjust to the rigours of the SPFL.

I was actually hoping Hibs would sign the Mariners left back…so no surprise to me they signed the right back😂

Both fullbacks are in the Oz under 23 game which is playing in a tournament this week, so you may even be able to catch them on the telly fora sneak preview.

As I said, I am very happy with this signing…..as no doubt our city neighbours are with his team mate Rowles.

All 3 came through the Mariners Academy, so maybe Hibs could learn a bit by paying them a visit.

[BILLYHIBS]

Here I am!

This is a very good signing.

He is a right back who likes to get forward and it wouldn’t surprise me to see him go straight into action in the first team…although obviously it will take him a while to adjust to the rigours of the SPFL.

I was actually hoping Hibs would sign the Mariners left back…so no surprise to me they signed the right back😂

Both fullbacks are in the Oz under 23 game which is playing in a tournament this week, so you may even be able to catch them on the telly fora sneak preview.

As I said, I am very happy with this signing…..as no doubt our city neighbours are with his team mate Rowles.

All 3 came through the Mariners Academy, so maybe Hibs could learn a bit by paying them a visit.

I just knew you would come good eventually Fred

Any chance of Jamie Mac making a comeback for us or has that ship sailed ? 😀

[Unseen work]

Here I am!

This is a very good signing.

He is a right back who likes to get forward and it wouldn’t surprise me to see him go straight into action in the first team…although obviously it will take him a while to adjust to the rigours of the SPFL.

I was actually hoping Hibs would sign the Mariners left back…so no surprise to me they signed the right back😂

Both fullbacks are in the Oz under 23 game which is playing in a tournament this week, so you may even be able to catch them on the telly fora sneak preview.

As I said, I am very happy with this signing…..as no doubt our city neighbours are with his team mate Rowles.

All 3 came through the Mariners Academy, so maybe Hibs could learn a bit by paying them a visit.

Is he as good on the ball as he looks in the clips?

He really reminds me of Harry Clarke, is that accurate of different players when you see them in a game?

[Forza Fred]

I just knew you would come good eventually Fred

Any chance of Jamie Mac making a comeback for us or has that ship sailed ? ��

I know he is top scorer out here, but he is playing with a club that dominates most games.

Jamie can’t score from outside the box…..Jason can….and does!

MacLaren will be on more money than he would get at Hibs and is playing in his home town.

Having said all that I like Jamie, but Don’t think he’ll be going anywhere


Wusnae me btw.

[Forza Fred]

Is he as good on the ball as he looks in the clips?

He really reminds me of Harry Clarke, is that accurate of different players when you see them in a game?

He is speedy and frequently gets to the opposition’s bye line and whips in crosses.

I am reluctant to say any player is like another as they are all different.

He will need a short period of adjustment to the SPFL game….I watched an interview with Ange Who? And he was asked what were the differences between Scottish football and where he had coached before….he said the number one difference was that while the football wasn’t hugely different in Scotland when you play it’s ‘an absolute battle’ every game.

He will be playing for the Olyroos (Australia Under 23’s) in the Asian Under 23 quarter final against Turkmenistan tomorrow, and pretty sure it will be on some streaming service over where you are if you want a look at him.

[andrew70]

He is speedy and frequently gets to the opposition’s bye line and whips in crosses.

I am reluctant to say any player is like another as they are all different.

He will need a short period of adjustment to the SPFL game….I watched an interview with Ange Who? And he was asked what were the differences between Scottish football and where he had coached before….he said the number one difference was that while the football wasn’t hugely different in Scotland when you play it’s ‘an absolute battle’ every game.

He will be playing for the Olyroos (Australia Under 23’s) in the Asian Under 23 quarter final against Turkmenistan tomorrow, and pretty sure it will be on some streaming service over where you are if you want a look at him.

Yes 2pm kick off here, on YouTube

[Forza Fred]

Yes 2pm kick off here, on YouTube

Also take a look at Jacob Farrell, who should be playing left back

[JimBHibees]

Yes 2pm kick off here, on YouTube

That today or tomorrow?

[hibee1875]

I know he is top scorer out here, but he is playing with a club that dominates most games.

Jamie can’t score from outside the box…..Jason can….and does!

MacLaren will be on more money than he would get at Hibs and is playing in his home town.

Having said all that I like Jamie, but Don’t think he’ll be going anywhere


Wusnae me btw.

I saw Jason made the A league team of the season after playing half a season. Jamie didn’t.

Delighted Jason has found somewhere it seems to be clicking for him again.

[Sir David Gray]

That today or tomorrow?

Tomorrow.

[Gorebridge Hibb]

I saw Jason made the A league team of the season after playing half a season. Jamie didn’t.

Delighted Jason has found somewhere it seems to be clicking for him again.

Jason has been on fire since January. Lewis Miller is a fantastic signing for us.

[JimBHibees]

Tomorrow.

Thanks :aok:

[jacomo]

I think I've got about 22-23 pages to catch up on if I read the main transfer thread (no chance) so a separate one to discuss Miller makes sense.

Odd signing given that we already have Clarke, Cadden and McGinn for RB, so I wonder if Clarke will be back and if Cadden may be moved into midfield.


:agree:

You’d think right back is not a priority position for us.

[GreenCastle]

Here I am!

This is a very good signing.

He is a right back who likes to get forward and it wouldn’t surprise me to see him go straight into action in the first team…although obviously it will take him a while to adjust to the rigours of the SPFL.

I was actually hoping Hibs would sign the Mariners left back…so no surprise to me they signed the right back😂

Both fullbacks are in the Oz under 23 game which is playing in a tournament this week, so you may even be able to catch them on the telly fora sneak preview.

As I said, I am very happy with this signing…..as no doubt our city neighbours are with his team mate Rowles.

All 3 came through the Mariners Academy, so maybe Hibs could learn a bit by paying them a visit.

Who is the better player - Miller or Rowles ?

Rowles is a couple years older and played more games.

[Forza Fred]

That today or tomorrow?

Saturday

[Forza Fred]

I saw Jason made the A league team of the season after playing half a season. Jamie didn’t.

Delighted Jason has found somewhere it seems to be clicking for him again.

Jamie didn’t because his club were playing in the A League Grand Final 3 days later and players from the two clubs…Melbourne City and Western United were not considered for the Barcelona game.

[Forza Fred]

Who is the better player - Miller or Rowles ?

Rowles is a couple years older and played more games.

Again..it’s a matter of opinion.

Both are good players…..Both are products of the Central Coast Mariners Acadamey.

I know it says Miller is a right back or centre half, but I’d imagine he would only play centre half in an emergency.

Rowles is a very effective defender who does everything without any fuss.

I would have been delighted if we had signed them both.

As Iwill be if we also sign their left back before the Jambos do.

[04Sauzee]

Again..it’s a matter of opinion.

Both are good players…..Both are products of the Central Coast Mariners Acadamey.

I know it says Miller is a right back or centre half, but I’d imagine he would only play centre half in an emergency.

Rowles is a very effective defender who does everything without any fuss.

I would have been delighted if we had signed them both.

As Iwill be if we also sign their left back before the Jambos do.

Jacob Farrel? He's also away with the U23s and highly rated. Is he a left back that can play further up the pitch of is he better in a 4 at the back.

Wonder if he's on our reader if Doig was to go? He's only 19 or so himself I think.

[GreenCastle]

Again..it’s a matter of opinion.

Both are good players…..Both are products of the Central Coast Mariners Acadamey.

I know it says Miller is a right back or centre half, but I’d imagine he would only play centre half in an emergency.

Rowles is a very effective defender who does everything without any fuss.

I would have been delighted if we had signed them both.

As Iwill be if we also sign their left back before the Jambos do.

Thanks.

Rowles is a CB so assume he’s been brought in to replace Souttar.

[Forza Fred]

Jacob Farrel? He's also away with the U23s and highly rated. Is he a left back that can play further up the pitch of is he better in a 4 at the back.

Wonder if he's on our reader if Doig was to go? He's only 19 or so himself I think.

Farrell is 19 and in his first season as a first teamer.

18 months ago he nearly left their academy and got an apprenticeship.

He is a couple of years younger than Miller but already in the Oz Under 23’s

He is much more of a defensive type than Miller, but is still admittedly a bit raw, compared to Miller, but then again, he is only 19.

He will be hunted by Euro scouts within the next 12 months and it was my wish that Hibs could sign him for the development team, at least.

FWIW, although I say his qualities are more in defence than going forward, A League stats I read the other week indicated that he was the most fouled player in the A League, so for a left back he must be doing something right.

[judas]

Very sceptical

Oz league standard way below ours.

Better than the Gambian league though/

As for you tube videos. Don’t waste my time.

[Forza Fred]

Very sceptical

Oz league standard way below ours.

Better than the Gambian league though/

As for you tube videos. Don’t waste my time.

You may be right, but I would respectfully suggest your opinion is not based on detailed research.

No doubt you thought Ange Postecoglou wouldn’t last until Christmas?

[007]

Very sceptical

Oz league standard way below ours.

Better than the Gambian league though/

As for you tube videos. Don’t waste my time.

judas

How well do you know the A-League, better than Forza Fred does?

[King Cosell]

Very sceptical

Oz league standard way below ours.

Better than the Gambian league though/

As for you tube videos. Don’t waste my time.

Aston Villa Fan 1: "We've signed that young defender from Marseille!"

Aston Villa Fan 2: "I'm sceptical, the French league standard is way below ours."

[hhibs]

Yes 2pm kick off here, on YouTube

Thanks for that Andrew 70.

Watched the game Miller looked pretty good and has been said before is strong
looking unit ,could do us really well

Happy first impressions

[ZitellZeTime]

Yeah is quite a strange one but if whats been said about him from the Aussie living Hibees, he's strong in the tackle good defensive awareness that John Mcginn, who I suspect may be moved on if we sign this guy. and Loves to get forward and get balls in the box they said too, so i had a search for some games hes played in and clips.

They will have seen him more than me and what they said seems true, especially for someone his age, I like Cadden but he runs too much with his head down and just drives it has hard as he can across the box without even looking to see if anyone is there apart from opposition defenders alot, he ends up being caught out of position like Whittaker, not full form Whittaker but when he first came through he loved going forward, forget to come back and we'd get ****ed down that side on the counter, this guys young strong and already seems to have all that stuff covered.

I think Mcginn would probably move on and we keep Cadden as he is a good player just needs to work on a couple of things in his game and he will be an even better player. I wonder if he could be a good central midfielder, he's quite strong, goot tackle to put some fight in the middle and can drive forward with the ball with options either side or infront of him. I'm no manager its just something that popped into my head cos I saw Harry Clarke mentioned by someone maybe being moved to the Centre.

I honestly didn't even know he was a full back, when he signed I was told he was a centre back but can play right back and is good cover for there, from Arsenal fans and it said that officially when he signed I think on the site and the papers so I was expecting him to line up beside Porto but then he got crocked when Hanlon was already crocked and we ended up with Bushiri there who I thought looked like a rough diamond first few games, although he seems to have regressed instead of getting better with time, new 3 year deal though so hopefully a preseason and some good coaching will help him, was shocked to see he got a new 3 year deal. Wonder what kind of wage he will be on.

But yeah not sure if Clarke is going back or something and it will be Miller and Cadden fighting for the right back spot, or maybe like it said Clarke is actually a central defender, no idea lol. Time will tell

[1875Sean]

Must have a chance getting in the oz squad for the World Cup if that midget Atkinson is first choice

[ahibby]

I reckon PM would make fewer defensive errors but Lewis will be better at taking on defenders. He is 6ft 2 ins so expect him at back post for our corners. A plus up front but not as good in defense as PM, open to improve in defence and might have better support and coaching with us.

[Gorebridge Hibb]

I reckon PM would make fewer defensive errors but Lewis will be better at taking on defenders. He is 6ft 2 ins so expect him at back post for our corners. A plus up front but not as good in defense as PM, open to improve in defence and might have better support and coaching with us.
Miller is a definite upgrade on Paul McGinn. We will sell him on for mega bucks.

[Jim44]

Miller is a definite upgrade on Paul McGinn. We will sell him on for mega bucks.

First of all and more importantly, what will he bring to the team to allow us to regain some semblance of respect and standing in the Scottish Premiership.

[allezsauzee]

Miller is a definite upgrade on Paul McGinn. We will sell him on for mega bucks.

Hope you are right, but we seem to be gambling on a lot of young players untested beyond under 23 or A league to be able to make the step up in grade.

[Forza Fred]

Hope you are right, but we seem to be gambling on a lot of young players untested beyond under 23 or A league to be able to make the step up in grade.

When you say ‘untested’ what exactly do you mean?

Not necessarily in disagreement with you, but be interested what would define ‘untested’ in your view.

[Sproule Three]

Miller will be in playing tonight semi final v Saudi
2pm - Edinburgh time
He’s probably got a reasonable chance of going to WC with full squad so plenty motivation now

[Gorebridge Hibb]

Miller will be in playing tonight semi final v Saudi
2pm - Edinburgh time
He’s probably got a reasonable chance of going to WC with full squad so plenty motivation now
On tv anywhere?

[Gorebridge Hibb]

When you say ‘untested’ what exactly do you mean?

Not necessarily in disagreement with you, but be interested what would define ‘untested’ in your view.Exactly, he’s been a standout this season in a very competitive A League. Definitely not untested.

[Sproule Three]

On tv anywhere?
Last one was shown via You Tube.
AFCU23 Asian Cup will find it I think

[Gorebridge Hibb]

Last one was shown via You Tube.
AFCU23 Asian Cup will find it I think

Saudis won 2-0. Australia down to 10 men early and Lewis Miller hooked after an hour

[Liam978]

Saudis won 2-0. Australia down to 10 men early and Lewis Miller hooked after an hour

Yeah, thought he was fortunate to get that long. He just didn't look up for it.

[SlickShoes]

Good that we can watch him before his first club game and write him off, this must be a new first for dot net.

[Liam978]

Good that we can watch him before his first club game and write him off, this must be a new first for dot net.

Don't think anyone is writing him off, just calling it on what was a terrible game crying out for a bit of sparkle.

[Phil MaGlass]

I take it the Saudis lineup were all over 30 yrs old?

[JimBHibees]

Hope you are right, but we seem to be gambling on a lot of young players untested beyond under 23 or A league to be able to make the step up in grade.

He certainly isnt untested

[Eyrie]

I take it the Saudis lineup were all over 30 yrs old?

:greengrin

[Forza Fred]

Saudis won 2-0. Australia down to 10 men early and Lewis Miller hooked after an hour

Sending off in first half in 36 degree heat meant there was only ever going to be one winner, but TBF Saudis were a much stronger team.

Miller didn’t do anything that made him stand out, but then, none of the Olyroos did.

Thought he was subbed along with 2 others for tactical reasons more than anything else, as Oz went forlornly in search of a comeback.

[Forza Fred]

In the absence of an answer to my question as to what defines ‘untested’, I can only assume that what is meant is that ‘tested’ =..”players we already ken’.

Ange Who?

[JimBHibees]

Sending off in first half in 36 degree heat meant there was only ever going to be one winner, but TBF Saudis were a much stronger team.

Miller didn’t do anything that made him stand out, but then, none of the Olyroos did.

Thought he was subbed along with 2 others for tactical reasons more than anything else, as Oz went forlornly in search of a comeback.

Yep certainly helps with the context you provide

[Big_Franck]

In the absence of an answer to my question as to what defines ‘untested’, I can only assume that what is meant is that ‘tested’ =..”players we already ken’.

Ange Who?

I think it means players, especially young players, that have never played at a decent level.

You'll obviously be a fan of the Australian league but to your average Scottish football fan the fact Jason Cummings made the All Star squad, and I think I read he made the team of the year, says a lot. Jason was terrible for Dundee and about to have to drop down to the championship here.

Also, the fact that Jamie McLaren averaged more than a goal a game last season doesn't suggest the level is particularly high.

[Forza Fred]

I think it means players, especially young players, that have never played at a decent level.

You'll obviously be a fan of the Australian league but to your average Scottish football fan the fact Jason Cummings made the All Star squad, and I think I read he made the team of the year, says a lot. Jason was terrible for Dundee and about to have to drop down to the championship here.

Also, the fact that Jamie McLaren averaged more than a goal a game last season doesn't suggest the level is particularly high.

As I have said before, both Australian and Scottish football fans tend to be over critical of one another’s league.

Most in Oz would suggest that the SPFL falls short of a ‘decent standard’…wrongly in my opinion.

Just a bit of context..

The ‘All Star’ squad was a cobbled together collection of players jointly selected by
A the fans
B The league Commisioners
C Dwight Yorke.

No players were selected from the two top teams who were playing in the A League Grand Final 3 days later.

I’m well aware of Jason struggling at Dundee, but like many Scottish immigrants to Oz, he has grabbed his second chance and is playing really well….he seems to have matured a bit, and added an extra dimension to his game.
Whisper it…but he could do a job for…..

I don’t know Jamie’s scoring average from last season but he does play for the most resourced club in Oz…a bit like playing for Celtic or Rangers in Scotland, so he is expected to score lots, and is paid handsomely for it

You are right though, defences in the A League do not mark as closely as the SPL..dunno why, but that extra space has been well used by Jamie.

I have no problems if your opinion is that the A League is not a decent level, and I can only assume that your opinion is formed from having watched a decent amount of A League games.

Still doesn’t really answer my question though….you have told me one examples what you consider NOT to be a ‘decent standard’ but my question was as to what IS considered to be.

Japan?
Saudi Arabia?
Ireland?
USA?
Austria?
Japan?

I dunno…and not that it matters but last season(21/22) the stats I am looking at show in the A League Jamie won the Golden Boot scoring 16 goals from 27 games…..dunno if it’s right or wrong.

[Big_Franck]

As I have said before, both Australian and Scottish football fans tend to be over critical of one another’s league.

Most in Oz would suggest that the SPFL falls short of a ‘decent standard’…wrongly in my opinion.

Just a bit of context..

The ‘All Star’ squad was a cobbled together collection of players jointly selected by
A the fans
B The league Commisioners
C Dwight Yorke.

No players were selected from the two top teams who were playing in the A League Grand Final 3 days later.

I’m well aware of Jason struggling at Dundee, but like many Scottish immigrants to Oz, he has grabbed his second chance and is playing really well….he seems to have matured a bit, and added an extra dimension to his game.
Whisper it…but he could do a job for…..

I don’t know Jamie’s scoring average from last season but he does play for the most resourced club in Oz…a bit like playing for Celtic or Rangers in Scotland, so he is expected to score lots, and is paid handsomely for it

You are right though, defences in the A League do not mark as closely as the SPL..dunno why, but that extra space has been well used by Jamie.

I have no problems if your opinion is that the A League is not a decent level, and I can only assume that your opinion is formed from having watched a decent amount of A League games.

Still doesn’t really answer my question though….you have told me one examples what you consider NOT to be a ‘decent standard’ but my question was as to what IS considered to be.

Japan?
Saudi Arabia?
Ireland?
USA?
Austria?
Japan?

I dunno…and not that it matters but last season(21/22) the stats I am looking at show in the A League Jamie won the Golden Boot scoring 16 goals from 27 games…..dunno if it’s right or wrong.

You didn't ask what would be considered a decent standard, you asked what untested means. I offered an opinion on what I think fans on here mean when they say untested. I'd say that Bojang, Tavares, Kenneh and Miller all fall in to that category because of where they have played their football so far. I'm sure everyone will have a different opinion on what constitutes a decent standard of football but I'd be surprised if any football fan worldwide considers the Australian league to be a decent standard.

Australian football fans criticising the Scottish league is like Scottish football fans that criticise the English league, they're in no position to do so IMO.

As well as being selected for the all stars game Jason Cummings also seems to have made it in to the team of the year on Opta stats according to this (https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/jason-cummings-earns-surprise-league-24138113).

Apologies, I must have been looking at Jamie McLaren's stats for season 2020/21. The season just gone he scored 16 in 27 games, season 2020/21 he got 25 in 23 games and the 2019/20 season he got 23 goals in 25 games. I'd be surprised if Jamie McLaren would get those kind of numbers in the Scottish Championship to be honest, so the standard can't be great.

I have watched a few A league games over the last 2/3 years on BT but I have to say I've never managed a full 90 minutes. The play tends to be quite slow (no doubt because of the heat) and I find the games lacking quality and quite boring. But then I don't have a horse in the race, so maybe that's natural. Anyway, I like the look of Miller from the clips we've seen so I am hoping he can come in and do well. He does remind me of Clarke and that makes me think we are preparing for Arsenal to possibly recall him, which IMO would be a disaster as he looks a real player to me.

[Forza Fred]

You didn't ask what would be considered a decent standard, you asked what untested means. I offered an opinion on what I think fans on here mean when they say untested. I'd say that Bojang, Tavares, Kenneh and Miller all fall in to that category because of where they have played their football so far. I'm sure everyone will have a different opinion on what constitutes a decent standard of football but I'd be surprised if any football fan worldwide considers the Australian league to be a decent standard.

Australian football fans criticising the Scottish league is like Scottish football fans that criticise the English league, they're in no position to do so IMO.

As well as being selected for the all stars game Jason Cummings also seems to have made it in to the team of the year on Opta stats according to this (https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/jason-cummings-earns-surprise-league-24138113).

Apologies, I must have been looking at Jamie McLaren's stats for season 2020/21. The season just gone he scored 16 in 27 games, season 2020/21 he got 25 in 23 games and the 2019/20 season he got 23 goals in 25 games. I'd be surprised if Jamie McLaren would get those kind of numbers in the Scottish Championship to be honest, so the standard can't be great.

I have watched a few A league games over the last 2/3 years on BT but I have to say I've never managed a full 90 minutes. The play tends to be quite slow (no doubt because of the heat) and I find the games lacking quality and quite boring. But then I don't have a horse in the race, so maybe that's natural. Anyway, I like the look of Miller from the clips we've seen so I am hoping he can come in and do well. He does remind me of Clarke and that makes me think we are preparing for Arsenal to possibly recall him, which IMO would be a disaster as he looks a real player to me.

You are right, the question was posed on another thread, but no matter.

As for Jamie, well I can remember getting absolute pelters on here when he first joined us and being labelled ‘anti MacLaren’ when I offered the opinion that he would be ‘ok’ at Hibs but no superstar, as he would find it a lot more difficult scoring against tight marking SPFL defenders than Aussie defences.

Think I got that one right.

Jason. Cummings signed on for 2 more years at Central Coast yesterday and said basically that his life has completely changed since coming here.
I think the daft laddie you remember is no more. And Jason’s mood of happiness is reflected in the way he now plays.

I know not what the OPTA team of the season is, but if he is seen as one of the best strikers in Oz…it is because he IS, I would say.

As a long time Jason watcher I can’t say he was my favourite Hibs player, but I think his stints in England may have added another dimension to his play.
I get he struggled at Dundee..but a la Scott Allan sometimes you can bloom at some clubs but feel stifled at others.

Again you are right when you say the pace of the game is slower in Oz than it is in Scotland, but I think there is a bigger emphasis on the technical side in Oz, as indeed there appears to be in Saudi Arabia where Martin Boyle said in a recent interview that the game there is different to Scotland as the emphasis is more on the technical side than speed.

My question was not about whether Oz was a better standard than the SPLor vice versa…I much prefer watching the footballing delights of say, Ross Cty v St Mirren than I do many A League games, and over many years have probably seen more equally duff games in both leagues.


The A League most certainly is not without its problems.

As for Miller my view is that he WILL struggle with the pace of the game initially and need a period of ‘settling in’ but once settled will prove to be a very smart acquisition.

That could mean at one point that there could be 4 ex A League players playing in an Edinburgh Derby……..

There is one thing however where I CAN state where the skill level of A League players towers over those in SPFL…….your goalies Cannae dance like ours����