James Scott

[Unseen work]

Firstly, huge congratulations on a hat trick today. Despite the opposition being poor it’s still a good accomplishment.

But has he changed anyones mind?

I was one that was delighted we got him based on his time at Motherwell. He was a very tricky, direct winger who offered a huge goal threat. He had speed and was tall for a winger.

The first couple of games we saw him he done well but I was surprised he was playing as a 9 as to me he was never suited to that role, he also looked alot heavier.

He faded out the team and got publically criticised for being unfit.

For me a lot of the criticism he was getting earlier in the season was OTT as he was only coming on for the last 5/10 minutes every 5th game.


Since coming back into the team against Hearts in the semi final he’s competed well, looks to be getting sharper and now ended the season with 4 goals, the highest out of our fit players I think?

I think his pre match interview the other day was good and I sometimes think we need to hear more from the players the fans don’t rate as it creates more distance between us. Hearing him admit he’s put on weight, isn’t the tricky winger he used to be and still feels his ankle was rather refreshing to me and also the fact he said he doesn’t blame fans for criticising him as it’s not been good enough.

Would anyone take a chance on him again? Get him properly fit and sharp and hope he continues his form?

I think it’s very easy to forget he’s only 21 and only had 6 months of first team football at Motherwell before being sold for 1 million where he got injured.

So what’s the thoughts?

Too little too late?

[Chip shop Joe]

Not for me. He did absolutely nothing when we really needed him to do something throughout the season.

He might be recovering from an injury but he had a whole season to get fit.

When the pressure is off he starts to play. That is exactly the type of player we do not need.

[hibee1875]

Nope. Hope we never see him again

[Sir David Gray]

Not for me.

[Since452]

Hope that's the last time I see him in a Hibs shirt.

[HendoDelivered]

No thanks

[Inconsequential]

Nope. Hope we never see him again Great support.

[tonyrougier123]

Not been anywhere near dynamic enough at hibs.
Seems a good lad,and there might very well be a player in there.
But have to ask questions of his early contributions to the side.
For me that’s the real problems with loan players,50/50 wether they fancy it.

[SChibs]

Im undecided. We've barely got the ball to him in the box before today so it was heard to tell if he was much of a finisher but today showed he is capable of getting goals. Maybe with a better manager he could be 4th choice striker?

[Dashing Bob S]

Swimming against the tide but we should break the bloody bank to sign up hat rick hero Scott. Could be the goal machine to blast us to the flag next season.

[hibee1875]

Great support.

He’s not a Hibs player anymore. Why would I offer him any support?

[LunasBoots]

Undecided, playing against a very poor side whose focus is elsewhere.

[Hibiza]

Well done today James but not for me.

[Callum_62]

Id take him as part of our striker group

His 3rd goal shows he has some talent when it comes to finishing

His 1 goal shows he can be as lucky as Ally Mccoist was [emoji23]

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[G15 Hibs]

I was delighted for him to get the hat-trick today given how desolate a figure he's often cut, and I don't think he's nearly as bad as he's looked at times this season. But it's been a horrible time for Hibs and him and I reckon its best for both parties for that to be a funny wee end if season story and now part ways.

[easty]

Congrats on the hat trick. Take the match ball with you when you go back to Hull.

[Keith_M]

Scott gave an interview this week, and I found it quite interesting. I thought he was very honest about his season with us.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/james-scott-hibs-forward-opens-up-on-public-shaming-and-criticism-as-he-prepares-for-hull-return-3694039

[LaMotta]

Fair play to him for his last 2 games, but 4 goals in dead rubber fixtures has been too little too late.

He'll have played himself out of a few fans worst ever Hibs 11's though. Interested to see how his career progesses from here.

[Northernhibee]

Depends on the terms but he’s earned a consideration.

[Brown Hibs]

Said it before but genuinely think he's a big talent. Was terrific for Motherwell and still very young. His attitude seems to have let him down but I wouldn't be surprised if he succeeds elsewhere. Won't be a popular opinion I'm sure.

[Hiber-nation]

Well done on the hat trick and good luck. Let's not forget what he was up against today. Half the Saints players didn't try a leg after our 2nd goal.

[EGL2000]

Not for me, should be aiming for much better

[Jones28]

I think he’d be worth a deal if on a free, wouldn’t particularly want to pay cash for him.

[Northernhibee]

I think he’d be worth a deal if on a free, wouldn’t particularly want to pay cash for him.

I think this is where I’m at.

[chrisski33]

Too little too late and not delivering the goods when really needed. Anyway was good to finish season on a win.

[OstKurve Hibs]

I think he’d be worth a deal if on a free, wouldn’t particularly want to pay cash for him.

Have to disagree, youre either good enough or your not whether your free or not.

[Jdawg]

Amazing when we go at teams a bit more and get bodies in the box that strikers get goals. The major disappointment this season has been the wide players and central midfield creating next to nothing and playing it safe.

[kaimendhibs]

Hes at least come back from injury and played a part.
Some want us to build a team around Kyle Macgennis. As well as score 3 today he put one on a plate for Josh Doig. Played a grwat ball in against hearts in semi too which should have resulted in a better attempt.
Its clear the other players like him too.


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[Mick O'Rourke]

Firstly, huge congratulations on a hat trick today. Despite the opposition being poor it’s still a good accomplishment.

But has he changed anyones mind?

I was one that was delighted we got him based on his time at Motherwell. He was a very tricky, direct winger who offered a huge goal threat. He had speed and was tall for a winger.

The first couple of games we saw him he done well but I was surprised he was playing as a 9 as to me he was never suited to that role, he also looked alot heavier.

He faded out the team and got publically criticised for being unfit.

For me a lot of the criticism he was getting earlier in the season was OTT as he was only coming on for the last 5/10 minutes every 5th game.


Since coming back into the team against Hearts in the semi final he’s competed well, looks to be getting sharper and now ended the season with 4 goals, the highest out of our fit players I think?

I think his pre match interview the other day was good and I sometimes think we need to hear more from the players the fans don’t rate as it creates more distance between us. Hearing him admit he’s put on weight, isn’t the tricky winger he used to be and still feels his ankle was rather refreshing to me and also the fact he said he doesn’t blame fans for criticising him as it’s not been good enough.

Would anyone take a chance on him again? Get him properly fit and sharp and hope he continues his form?

I think it’s very easy to forget he’s only 21 and only had 6 months of first team football at Motherwell before being sold for 1 million where he got injured.

So what’s the thoughts?

Too little too late?


I like this post and agree James showed a lot of maturity and self deprecation in his comments.
He will know exactly what he needs to do weightwise, and working with good coaches i hope sees him improve and show why Hull signed him.
On evidence of recent weeks work rate i would not be unhappy if Hibs sought to get him back.
Deal or loan.

I suggest James boots his hat-trick ball up the bahookey of the guy who gave him those verbals when he was chatting with the Hibs kids:greengrin


A centre forward the older fans here will remember well at ER
Jim Scott
Now he was not to bad in front of goal.
If young James can do as well as his namesake,his career will blossom.

[Inconsequential]

He’s not a Hibs player anymore. Why would I offer him any support? He was a Hibs player today and scored 3. Be happy.

[jacomo]

I find it hard to overlook his patent lack of fitness for most of the season.

There really isn’t any excuse for a modern day footballer to be carrying excess weight through a season. If he feels his ankle isn’t fully recovered then what on earth is he doing?! He should be dedicating every minute to getting himself back to peak condition.

If the penny has finally dropped then great, but I think his future lies elsewhere.

[Billy Whizz]

David Gray’s comments post match. We must have an option on him

“But whether he is here next season or not that will be between him, the club and the new manager.”

[blackpoolhibs]

My one worry is why did it take him all season to get resonably fit?

I wouldnt want him to be our main striker, but the one who's finished the season might be an option for the 3rd choice.

[Since452]

A meaningless kickabout with the makeshift opposition thinking about the next game. Scott hasn't produced when it mattered, when the pressure was on, when we really needed it. A no for me.

[Smartie]

I don't think we should sign him.

His interview was good though and I'm delighted he got a hat trick today. This can't have been an easy season for him but I thought he finished it well - plenty of effort since he came into the side for the semi and a bit of end product over the past few weeks.

I wasn't impressed with his start at Hibs but he just didn't look anything like what I thought we needed at that time. I'm of the belief that Jack Ross deserved more time at Hibs but I thought he handled the fitness situation badly, effectively throwing a young player under the bus and ruining the chances of the player having a good relationship with the fans of his new club.

Scott looks to me like a tricky and quick winger who has lost some pace following an awful injury and doesn't look like a number 9 to me - but that was good movement for his 2nd, a great header for the 3rd, at least he was in the box (how often has his internationalist team mate striker not been in the 6 yard box) for it to hit off him for his 1st today. Chuck in his goal against Dundee and the assist against Aberdeen and that's a decent end product to finish the season with.

He'll be stronger for this season with us and he's still a very young man. I've felt sorry for him at times, I've torn my hair out at him at times, but it was good to see him enjoy himself this afternoon, and it was clear he got on well with his team mates.

As I said earlier this week (and noticed the comment was getting pelters on the match day thread) I think he can hold his head high regarding his efforts over the past couple of months (if not before). We have other, much more popular and celebrated players who haven't made as positive an impact as him over that same time period.

[Northernhibee]

I’m really chuffed for him. I was guilty of being absolutely exasperated at him starting in the semi but since that point he’s earned his place in the starting XI.

[Mikey_1875]

Pleased he got a hat trick today but he has looked very poor when he has been a bit part player during the season and that is all I could ever imagine him being for us. Probably best for both parties to go back to Hull.

[Jones28]

Have to disagree, youre either good enough or your not whether your free or not.

A player that comes in on a free or on loan and has the impact Scott had this season would be vastly different to a player that came in and had the same impact if we’d paid a decent fee for him.

[Yorkshire HFC]

Hope that's the last time I see him in a Hibs shirt.

And replace him with who? Who else have we got that's capable of scoring a hat trick in the league?

Every time I come on this site, I say the same thing - this place is mental.

[Inconsequential]

And replace him with who? Who else have we got that's capable of scoring a hat trick in the league?

Every time I come on this site, I say the same thing - this place is mental. More loonies on here than there is in an asylum. :agree:

[hibee1875]

He was a Hibs player today and scored 3. Be happy.

I am happy, and supported him today. That doesn’t stop me never wanting to see him in a Hibs top again.

He’s not good enough. Offered absolutely 0 until the pressure was off.

[MWHIBBIES]

And replace him with who? Who else have we got that's capable of scoring a hat trick in the league?

Every time I come on this site, I say the same thing - this place is mental.

Doidge and Nisbet both have league hattricks for Hibs, so there's 2.

Scott turning up against 2 championship sides changes nothing. Poor player imo. Decent keeper probably saves all 4 of his goals this week.

[B.H.F.C]

And replace him with who? Who else have we got that's capable of scoring a hat trick in the league?

Every time I come on this site, I say the same thing - this place is mental.

What about the first 36 league games of the season. Where was he?

Today shouldn’t fool folk.

[Hibs90]

No.

One or two good games out of however many.

[Allant1981]

There is clearly a player there but he just looks so unfit, fair play today though on his 3 goals

[Smartie]

I think it's really harsh to say he offered nothing until "the pressure was off" as if there are issues with his application, desire or attitude.

He didn't get into the team until the semi and he ran his socks off that day. He only really got a proper run in the team after "the pressure was off" and all he could really do was to do his best.

Jack Ross has a lot to answer for imo with his comments about Scott's fitness. Whilst I cannot argue that this was a successful signing or that Scott did nearly enough over the course of the season I've not really seen anything to suggest any problems with his attitude. He was coming back from a bad injury and he's only 21 so not exactly an established, experienced professional yet.

The blame for any issues regarding Scott lies with whoever chose to sign him. A winger who has lost pace as a result of a bad injury wasn't going to be the answer to our striking problems.

All the player could do was to do his best, which I am satisfied that he has done, even if that best ultimately wasn't good enough.

[hibbydog]

No amount of humility or wise words will mask the fact that he is fat and sh%te.

He hasn’t tried hard enough. Not what we need.

[delbert]

And replace him with who? Who else have we got that's capable of scoring a hat trick in the league?

Every time I come on this site, I say the same thing - this place is mental.

Yeh let’s sign him up, he turns up once in half a season in a kick about against a team thinking about everything other than todays game, we really need players like this - every time I come on this site, I say the same thing - the people willing to tolerate rampant mediocrity as the norm at our club is mental !

[SaulGoodman]

No amount of humility or wise words will mask the fact that he is fat and sh%te.

He hasn’t tried hard enough. Not what we need.

Lovely

[Hibs90]

No amount of humility or wise words will mask the fact that he is fat and sh%te.

He hasn’t tried hard enough. Not what we need.

What do you really think?

[MKHIBEE]

Yeh let’s sign him up, he turns up once in half a season in a kick about against a team thinking about everything other than todays game, we really need players like this - every time I come on this site, I say the same thing - the people willing to tolerate rampant mediocrity as the norm at our club is mental !

I thought they only tolerated “ mediocrity”. At what stage did it become rampant, whatever the f… that means.

[Inconsequential]

I am happy, and supported him today. That doesn’t stop me never wanting to see him in a Hibs top again.

He’s not good enough. Offered absolutely 0 until the pressure was off. I'm H - A - P - P - Y, I'm H - A - P - P - Y, ....

You can't always get what you want! :agree:

[hibee1875]

I'm H - A - P - P - Y, I'm H - A - P - P - Y, ....

You can't always get what you want! :agree:

Bit weird.

Not sure why I’m being told to be happy for calling Scott *****. Which we all have been doing all season. I’ve not seen him on one single persons keep list.

One swallow doesn’t make a summer.

[Lancs Harp]

And replace him with who? Who else have we got that's capable of scoring a hat trick in the league?

Every time I come on this site, I say the same thing - this place is mental.

To be fair mate it comes down to recruitment taking England alone for instance hundreds of players are being released. Its about having a plan and a strategy (we dont seem to have either as far as football is concerned) plenty of good players out there including our price bracket just got to pick the right ones and have a game plan.

[Silky]

Undecided, playing against a very poor side whose focus is elsewhere.

Other, more "loved" strikers have played against "very poor sides" this season and not even managed one goal!

[LewysGot2]

Darren in his post match interview says it was nice of Jimmy Scott to turn up. Says he told him in the changing room it's a pity he didn't turn up 6 months ago

[Bobby's Cinema]

Nope. Offered nothing like enough for Hibs in the games that mattered, given game time during to a lack of options over his contribution. The cynic would say he offered something to out himself in the shop window.

Good effort today, but not good enough. Hope we learn lessons and do better.

[JohnM1875]

Genuinely pleased for the boy today, that third goal was brilliant. But think we need to spend money wisely for next season and need to be doing better than Scott.

Being a million pound investment from Hull I'd be guessing he's on a higher wage that we'd be paying as well.

[KeithTheHibby]

He’s not even our player so discussing the merits as to whether he is good enough for us is pointless.

[cameronw-hfc]

He said himself he's not the tricky winger he was before the injury, he's put a bit of weight on, I don't think he's 'fat', he's just a big lad trying to fill out to be a striker rather than a winger.

It's not worked for him this year but some of the comments are pathetic, especially after he scored a hattrick. He's 21, the stick is unbelievable. He came out himself and said he's not been good enough, sometimes that happens, doesn't warrant the personal digs I'm seeing.

[Mick O'Rourke]

More loonies on here than there is in an asylum. :agree:

Ma faither had an auntie,my great auntie !! who lived in Carstairs Junction village.
She knew many warders(nurses!) at Carstairs state mental hospital.
She said the ones that had worked there for years were "strange wee men" :nanafunk::banana::nanasplit:
The warders social club through there was meant to be a place to behold.
Stephen King would have got inspiration for his short stories there.

Sorry i digress ,but .... Hibs.net does also have "strange wee posts" sometimes:crazy:

Not just the 5th columnists and interlopers !

[brog]

He said himself he's not the tricky winger he was before the injury, he's put a bit of weight on, I don't think he's 'fat', he's just a big lad trying to fill out to be a striker rather than a winger.

It's not worked for him this year but some of the comments are pathetic, especially after he scored a hattrick. He's 21, the stick is unbelievable. He came out himself and said he's not been good enough, sometimes that happens, doesn't warrant the personal digs I'm seeing.

People seem incapable of thoughtful and constructive criticism. I cringe every time I see imposter or wage thief,
FWIW I posted on PM Board last week that If Scott could maintain or build on his performance against Dundee i would take him. He's 21, has hardly played for 2 seasons but has talent. Anyone remember Christian's misses until he got a hat trick against St J, and that started with a sclaff!!

[JamesHFC]

Wages better spent elsewhere.

[Mick O'Rourke]

*[QUOTE=brog;6961855]People seem incapable of thoughtful and constructive criticism. I cringe every time I see imposter or wage thief,
FWIW I posted on PM Board last week that If Scott could maintain or build on his performance against Dundee i would take him. He's 21, has hardly played for 2 seasons but has talent. Anyone remember Christian's misses until he got a hat trick against St J, and that started with a sclaff!![/QUOTE


You will know this, Brian.
When Jimmy O' became a recognised striker at Hibs, it happened to him.
He told me years later there was periods when his performance maybe dipped or goals dried up
He sometimes could not sleep soundly on the night before the next match.
Tossing and turning.Worrying !
Supporters should recognise that this is their livelihood.
They dont set out to have poor performances.
Giving them pelters that they can hear from the terrace is bound to help !!

Back to Jimmy
He had the knack of being dropped after playing a blinder the week before .


Oh that 0-7 five aside,you mentioned,Brog
Spoke to him earlier
He disnae remember that.
Maybe he was dropped that week!!

[Hillsidehibby]

Worst ever player I have seen at Hibs

[cameronw-hfc]

Worst ever player I have seen at Hibs

Blatantly not true, either that or you're about 5 year old

[Allant1981]

Worst ever player I have seen at Hibs

Have you only watched hibs in the last year or so

[Hillsidehibby]

Have you only watched hibs in the last year or so
No mate. Been watching Hibs since the sixties

[cameronw-hfc]

No mate. Been watching Hibs since the sixties

Drop your grudge or stop lying then lol. Rowan Vine, Big Dave, that's two strikers considerably worse just off the top of my head. Either that or you're just a terrible attempt of a troll.

[Allant1981]

No mate. Been watching Hibs since the sixties

Then theres no chance james scott is the worst player you have seen

[brog]

*[QUOTE=brog;6961855]People seem incapable of thoughtful and constructive criticism. I cringe every time I see imposter or wage thief,
FWIW I posted on PM Board last week that If Scott could maintain or build on his performance against Dundee i would take him. He's 21, has hardly played for 2 seasons but has talent. Anyone remember Christian's misses until he got a hat trick against St J, and that started with a sclaff!![/QUOTE


You will know this, Brian.
When Jimmy O' became a recognised striker at Hibs, it happened to him.
He told me years later there was periods when his performance maybe dipped or goals dried up
He sometimes could not sleep soundly on the night before the next match.
Tossing and turning.Worrying !
Supporters should recognise that this is their livelihood.
They dont set out to have poor performances.
Giving them pelters that they can hear from the terrace is bound to help !!

Back to Jimmy
He had the knack of being dropped after playing a blinder the week before .


Oh that 0-7 five aside,you mentioned,Brog
Spoke to him earlier
He disnae remember that.
Maybe he was dropped that week!!

I'm pretty sure Jimmy played that day Michael. Got a feeling tourney was a charity organised by Leith Accies.

It was Leith Round Table, seems it ran from about 1969 to 1982. I'll give J a call this week!

[Swedish hibee]

No is my answer!

[Hiber-nation]

No mate. Been watching Hibs since the sixties

You honestly think he's worse than Joe Ward who didn't score a single goal? That's a bit strange.

[Since452]

And replace him with who? Who else have we got that's capable of scoring a hat trick in the league?

Every time I come on this site, I say the same thing - this place is mental.

His goals have come in the last two games of the season against the worst two teams in the league. I'd be amazed if we didn't replace him with better.

[Mick O'Rourke]

Then theres no chance james scott is the worst player you have seen


No, he wasnt even our "worst" player this season. i wont add to that.
With our luck, James will go elswhere next year on loan and bang in 15 plus

[Hillsidehibby]

[QUOTE=Hiber-nation;6961895]You honestly think he's worse than Joe Ward who didn't score a single goal? That's a bit strange.[/QUOTE
To be fair I’ve seen some ***** but please allow me to be angry!

[JohnM1875]

Just goes to show you that he can't win. He's scored four goals in two games but for some he'll always be 'the worst player'

[bigwheel]

No, he wasnt even our "worst" player this season. i wont add to that.
With our luck, James will go elswhere next year on loan and bang in 15 plus

I’d sign him if he was available at the right price …he had hardly any game time other than short sub appearances until recent weeks and has looked better each game since then…

[Smartie]

No, he wasnt even our "worst" player this season. i wont add to that.
With our luck, James will go elswhere next year on loan and bang in 15 plus

I have a horrible feeling that exactly that will happen.

This year was his rehabilitation from injury year, next year he kicks on.

[brog]

You honestly think he's worse than Joe Ward who didn't score a single goal? That's a bit strange.

I'll raise you Harvey McCreadie!! 😁

[Mick O'Rourke]

I have a horrible feeling that exactly that will happen.

This year was his rehabilitation from injury year, next year he kicks on.

If Hull unloaded him to us overweight, raw and had an injury issue ,they took a liberty, or our club knew that and took him on regardless.
If he wants to return, i hope the club get him back.

[BILLYHIBS]

Been watching Hibs since the sixties and I must admit I thought James Scott was pretty bad

Looked like a winger being forced to play centre forward and didn’t have a clue what to do ( Sweet 😀)

The fact he was out of condition when he arrived didn’t help his case

The penny seemed to drop in his last couple of games but as others have said too little too late

I hope he will have found his time spent at Hibs as beneficial to his future career development and he will have gained valuable confidence from his last few games at the club

Wish him all the best but we really should be looking for better

[hibee1875]

I have a horrible feeling that exactly that will happen.

This year was his rehabilitation from injury year, next year he kicks on.

I’d stick money on him having a Tony Watt type career. Except he’ll never score against Barca

[Malthibby]

Hope we keep him.

[Inconsequential]

Why are some posters so nasty towards players with comments like get rid, wage thief, worst player ever etc etc. Is it a sign of the times? The digital age, the keyboard warriors. If nothing nice and positive to say why bother? No comments would be made in person I'm sure. Online abuse is an offence.

[Skol]

I think Scott could be a positive player and he has improved if late as his fitness has improved and he has had more game time.

There is potential there

[Inconsequential]

People seem incapable of thoughtful and constructive criticism. I cringe every time I see imposter or wage thief,
FWIW I posted on PM Board last week that If Scott could maintain or build on his performance against Dundee i would take him. He's 21, has hardly played for 2 seasons but has talent. Anyone remember Christian's misses until he got a hat trick against St J, and that started with a sclaff!! Indeed Brog! You and I must be in the same age bracket. What age bracket it is shall not be revealed.

:greengrin

[IberianHibernian]

If he`s only 21 could he not be in new Under 23 team with gradual introduction to first team if he continues to do well like in last month ? That`s assuming Hull would let him go for nothing and player is prepared to take wage cut knowing he won`t be guaranteed first team football . There are not a lot of good strikers of the level we want . Ross signed him then didn`t give him a chance . Maloney gave him a chance though even then it was mainly because of injury crisis .

[hibee1875]

Why are some posters so nasty towards players with comments like get rid, wage thief, worst player ever etc etc. Is it a sign of the times? The digital age, the keyboard warriors. If nothing nice and positive to say why bother? No comments would be made in person I'm sure. Online abuse is an offence.

Hi James. Sorry your feelings have been hurt but us fans, who ultimately help pay your wages don’t think you’re good enough for where we want to be as a club.

Hope this helps. All the best.

[Inconsequential]

Bit weird.

Not sure why I’m being told to be happy for calling Scott *****. Which we all have been doing all season. I’ve not seen him on one single persons keep list.

One swallow doesn’t make a summer.

Bit weird? Of course just like some other posters on here. At least I'm not a foul mouthed young man with a lot to learn. Read the thread again there appears to be one or two who would give him a chance.

We must not allow other's people's limited perceptions to define us.

[Coco Bryce]

Blatantly not true, either that or you're about 5 year old

Who's been worse than him in the last 5 years?

[hibee1875]

Who's been worse than him in the last 5 years?

Josh Vela

[Inconsequential]

Hi James. Sorry your feelings have been hurt but us fans, who ultimately help pay your wages don’t think you’re good enough for where we want to be as a club.

Hope this helps. All the best. How did you know my name? Had me worried there for a moment. Now into your bed young man! School tomorrow.

[hibee1875]

How did you know my name? Had me worried there for a moment. Now into your bed young man! School tomorrow.

Genuinely can’t see anything in my posts which would make you think I’m a “young man”.

Why you’re getting personal with a poster you know absolutely 0 about is baffling.

I’m here on a thread about James Scott, giving my opinion that I don’t think he’s good enough to play for Hibs.

Please stop directing your posts at me

[Eyrie]

I was pleased for Scott that he got a hat trick today, but he had too many disappointing games for us over the season so I've not been swayed into wanting to keep him.

[greenlex]

Not shown enough to be a striker at Hibs.

[Allant1981]

Who's been worse than him in the last 5 years?

Tom james, josh vela, deivydas matuleviciis, brian graham(maybe the same)

[Allant1981]

Genuinely can’t see anything in my posts which would make you think I’m a “young man”.

Why you’re getting personal with a poster you know absolutely 0 about is baffling.

I’m here on a thread about James Scott, giving my opinion that I don’t think he’s good enough to play for Hibs.

Please stop directing your posts at me

34 is pretty young!! I wish is was in my 30's again😁

[Inconsequential]

Genuinely can’t see anything in my posts which would make you think I’m a “young man”.

Why you’re getting personal with a poster you know absolutely 0 about is baffling.

I’m here on a thread about James Scott, giving my opinion that I don’t think he’s good enough to play for Hibs.

Please stop directing your posts at me Well done! That's more like it. More constructive than calling someone *****

Eh? Hold on you're the victim? How ironic.

Congrats my first blockee....:greengrin

[brog]

Who's been worse than him in the last 5 years?

Just thinking of Heckys 1st full season, Doidge in his 1st 15 games, Vela, Tom James.

[HibeeMackenzie]

Obviously not the greatest player but he’s the only one that’s looked like he gives a ****** in the last month or so. Chuffed for the boy getting his goals today

[Inconsequential]

34 is pretty young!! I wish is was in my 30's again😁 You me both! Age is just a number - tell that to my knees!
:greengrin

[Inconsequential]

Obviously not the greatest player but he’s the only one that’s looked like he gives a ****** in the last month or so. Chuffed for the boy getting his goals today Well said that man. A young fellow whose career was curtailed by a bad injury and is trying to get back on track by all accounts. Hope he does well whatever path his career will take.

[GreenCastle]

It’s been frustrating see him contribute nothing till last few gamesZ

It’s even more frustrating seeing him score and look actually decent today right at the end of the season.

Saints were awful. Had a feeling like Scott is putting himself in the shop window for future clubs. He is probably sharper and more confident since his injury plus was getting more service. If he was cheap and 5 choice striker maybe but think we can do better.

[Coco Bryce]

Just thinking of Heckys 1st full season, Doidge in his 1st 15 games, Vela, Tom James.

Josh Vela scored 2 goals in 14 games for Hibs. No bad for a midfielder 😂

[MWHIBBIES]

Just thinking of Heckys 1st full season, Doidge in his 1st 15 games, Vela, Tom James.

Doidge in his first 15 matches was miles better than Scott's first 15.

Before this week scott was right up there with the likes of daryl Duffy and rowan vine for our worst ever forwards. He's been dreadful this season and he knows it.

[LaMotta]

Josh Vela scored 2 goals in 14 games for Hibs. No bad for a midfielder 😂

Sure he only got one for us, in the league cup....

[Hibee Daft]

Ive never been a massive fan of him but never realised hes only 21, i always assumed he was mid 20s or something.

Young hibs player scoring a hattrick - keep if possible imo

[easty]

It’s hilarious that a hat trick seems to have won some folk over.

Congratulations to him for today, but he’s been woeful for the vast vast majority of the season.

I think I’ll judge him on his season, rather than his last 90 mins.

If Josh Campbell or JDH had scored a hat trick today it wouldn’t have changed my season long opinions on them either.

[BILLYHIBS]

Doidge in his first 15 matches was miles better than Scott's first 15.

Before this week scott was right up there with the likes of daryl Duffy and rowan vine for our worst ever forwards. He's been dreadful this season and he knows it.

Doidge was always making the correct runs and adopting the correct positions but nothing was coming off

You could tell that if only he got one goal it would click

Scott didn’t know where to run to he just looked lost

[Smartie]

It’s hilarious that a hat trick seems to have won some folk over.

Congratulations to him for today, but he’s been woeful for the vast vast majority of the season.

I think I’ll judge him on his season, rather than his last 90 mins.

If Josh Campbell or JDH had scored a hat trick today it wouldn’t have changed my season long opinions on them either.

I'd say he's been much better over maybe the past half dozen games.

To begin with he had a couple of decentish appearances off the bench. Then he started a few games, grafted hard and played well enough without any end product.

Over the past 3 games he's got 4 goals and an assist, which is a decent end product.

To take the season as a whole he's been nowhere near good enough but it's a bit unfair not to acknowledge that he's picked up lately.

[judas]

A hanger on who started trying when it was too late. 👋

[jacomo]

Doidge in his first 15 matches was miles better than Scott's first 15.

Before this week scott was right up there with the likes of daryl Duffy and rowan vine for our worst ever forwards. He's been dreadful this season and he knows it.


:agree:

[Simkin911]

Happy to wave him goodbye but I do think he’s been much more effective overall than our other young inexperienced striker (in the last few weeks).

[Stokesy's on fire]

Todays display was outstanding James Scott was really on it today and what really hit home was the emotion he showed when he Scored the Hat-Trick. Who knows what his future holds. I'm pretty sure David Gray mentioned that JS has been doing well he seems to believe in him but i doubt he will be back next season.

[brog]

Doidge in his first 15 matches was miles better than Scott's first 15.

Before this week scott was right up there with the likes of daryl Duffy and rowan vine for our worst ever forwards. He's been dreadful this season and he knows it.

He really wasn't. Doidge scored 2 goals, both in LC against lower league opposition before his hat trick against St J in November. He missed countless chances including 3 one on ones at Pittodrie. After St J he showed us what he could do. Today was Scott's 8th start for us. I suspect he'll kick on now and probably come back to haunt us!

[Inconsequential]

He really wasn't. Doidge scored 2 goals, both in LC against lower league opposition before his hat trick against St J in November. He missed countless chances including 3 one on ones at Pittodrie. After St J he showed us what he could do. Today was Scott's 8th start for us. I suspect he'll kick on now and probably come back to haunt us! Indeed Brog. I was certain James Scott had only started a few games and like most players needed to get match fit. Four goals in eight games is actually very good stats. For the stat lovers among us. :agree:

[IberianHibernian]

If Hull unloaded him to us overweight, raw and had an injury issue ,they took a liberty, or our club knew that and took him on regardless.
If he wants to return, i hope the club get him back.Seeing Scott score a hattrick in last game of season made me remember a hattrick scored in last match in about 1971 by your brother in a 6 v 1 thrashing of Clyde at Easter Road . Tiny crowd of about 3000 and like today nothing at stake . I know that hattrick wouldn`t have been his first and certainly wasn`t his last
but he can`t have been much older than Scott is now .

[McSwanky]

James Scott = Gary Tank Commander

[Smartie]

James Scott = Gary Tank Commander

:faf:

Now you mention it...

[Nicho87]

Easy to step up when the season is done and your playing a team relegated pretty much and a second string team in the play offs

Can’t kid a kidder

He will end up at some club in English league 1 and score a barrow load and we’ll have a thread in 9 months time saying we should have signed him no doubt

[Dr What If?]

Mentioned before that the first time I noticed the lad was when he was playing for Scotland U21s where he stood out as the oppositions best player, he was just terrible. Early doors at Hibs when he got on he was just an empty jersey that made me wander what our own kids were doing wrong not the be ahead of him.
In the semi against Hearts he was one of our best players though, has looked alright last few weeks....and today he gets a hat trick. I just don't know....is he a player that has needed time to click or is he someone that just turns up now and again? Is he a liability or did he just need games? I want to see young Scottish talent thrive and I would much prefer to see it at Hibs than anywhere else but Scott is a bit of an enigma right now....I honestly don't know.
If he is here next season then great, there is a quality player in there, if he's not here next season then great, too often he looks like its the first time he's kicked a ball.

[Hibbyradge]

I'd keep him.

[1875Sean]

Easy to step up when the season is done and your playing a team relegated pretty much and a second string team in the play offs

Can’t kid a kidder

He will end up at some club in English league 1 and score a barrow load and we’ll have a thread in 9 months time saying we should have signed him no doubt

No chance I am sure the most he scored in a season is with us … 4

Wouldn’t surprise me if he ends back up at Motherwell

[bigwheel]

No chance I am sure the most he scored in a season is with us … 4

Wouldn’t surprise me if he ends back up at Motherwell

He’s only 21. Not played a full season as a first team player anywhere. His best seasons are in front of him ..

[RIP]

If good pros like Lewis, David and Darren rate the guy and Hull don’t want him back then the incoming manager may try and to keep him around. At 21, there’s time for improvement.

Fraser Murray at 23 has just won Player of the Year at newly promoted Kilmarnock and Oli Shaw at 24 notched 16 goals for the season. Were signings like JDH Josh or Joe a different class to Fraser in 2021 and has Doidge or Melkerson proved more effective than Oli would have?

[1875Sean]

He’s only 21. Not played a full season as a first team player anywhere. His best seasons are in front of him ..

You don’t know that, look at jake haste when we was at Motherwell, had a decent 6 months, got a move to rangers at age 20 and went backwards, now on loan at Linfield, being young doesn’t always mean you will get better and progress

[bigwheel]

You don’t know that, look at jake haste when we was at Motherwell, had a decent 6 months, got a move to rangers at age 20 and went backwards, now on loan at Linfield, being young doesn’t always mean you will get better and progress

You’re right, I don’t know that…like most things on here, it’s a considered opinion…he’s still developing. I’m pretty confident he will have so,e good times ahead. And who’s to say Hastie doesn’t end up finding some form again and creating a decent career for himself…


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[MWHIBBIES]

He really wasn't. Doidge scored 2 goals, both in LC against lower league opposition before his hat trick against St J in November. He missed countless chances including 3 one on ones at Pittodrie. After St J he showed us what he could do. Today was Scott's 8th start for us. I suspect he'll kick on now and probably come back to haunt us!
He really was.

[Since452]

Easy to step up when the season is done and your playing a team relegated pretty much and a second string team in the play offs

Can’t kid a kidder

He will end up at some club in English league 1 and score a barrow load and we’ll have a thread in 9 months time saying we should have signed him no doubt

The new bring back Oli Shaw.

[HH81]

His header for the 3rd was excellent.

Good luck back at Hull.

[jacomo]

His header for the 3rd was excellent.

Good luck back at Hull.


:agree:

[WestStandWillie]

Good hat-trick (albeit some what fortuitous) but probably needs a fresh start away from here.

If we signed him permanently the boo boys would expect him to hit ground running otherwise we're in the same boat as this season.

It's a shame it's not worked out for him. There's a player there that just needs a consistent run of games.

[GreenCastle]

My worry would be if we signed him then he got comfortable and we are back to stage 1.

What was noticeable yesterday was he linked up play better and Melkersen looked better also.

[Smartie]

My worry would be if we signed him then he got comfortable and we are back to stage 1.

What was noticeable yesterday was he linked up play better and Melkersen looked better also.

I thought the link up play was better just by virtue of having a couple of them up there, with Henderson in behind.

There was actually an awful lot of room for improvement in Scott's link up play, sometimes his touch was as bad as it's been. His link up play has actually been quite a lot better over the past couple of months imo, even if it was occasionally a thankless task as he was isolated when he was trying to play up front on his own.

The goals were the difference between what went before and yesterday for Scott - and he deserves credit for being in there for the first, good movement and clean hit for the 2nd and finding the space and getting a good header away for the 3rd.

[Moulin Yarns]

To score 3 goals means Scott was getting into position to be able to score them. That's a positive regardless of how badly he has performed in the past.

[jacomo]

Good hat-trick (albeit some what fortuitous) but probably needs a fresh start away from here.

If we signed him permanently the boo boys would expect him to hit ground running otherwise we're in the same boat as this season.

It's a shame it's not worked out for him. There's a player there that just needs a consistent run of games.


I think it’s up to him, frankly.

He either dedicates himself to getting in the best shape possible and works to improve weak areas of his game or it’s downhill from here.

Here’s hoping the penny has dropped.

[SHODAN]

Worst ever player I have seen at Hibs

Lol

[Smartie]

I think it’s up to him, frankly.

He either dedicates himself to getting in the best shape possible and works to improve weak areas of his game or it’s downhill from here.

Here’s hoping the penny has dropped.

Other than Jack Ross' comments, has there been much suggestion that he hasn't been doing this?

He mentioned himself that he'd put on weight but I don't know if that was necessarily an admission that he'd been on the kebabs and got fat.

When he broke through at Motherwell he was only 18, and any lad will normally fill out a bit between 18 and 21. If you add to that that he's had long term niggly injury issues and the fact that he might be trying to bulk up a bit in order to be a number 9 rather than a winger, I think he's maybe being done a bit of a disservice with the constant comments about his fitness.

[Gloucester Hibs]

Worst ever player I have seen at Hibs

Alan O'Brien wants a word with you...

[Moulin Yarns]

Other than Jack Ross' comments, has there been much suggestion that he hasn't been doing this?

He mentioned himself that he'd put on weight but I don't know if that was necessarily an admission that he'd been on the kebabs and got fat.

When he broke through at Motherwell he was only 18, and any lad will normally fill out a bit between 18 and 21. If you add to that that he's had long term niggly injury issues and the fact that he might be trying to bulk up a bit in order to be a number 9 rather than a winger, I think he's maybe being done a bit of a disservice with the constant comments about his fitness.

Aye, remember that Joe harper guy, not exactly a thoroughbred. 😁

[GreenCastle]

Other than Jack Ross' comments, has there been much suggestion that he hasn't been doing this?

He mentioned himself that he'd put on weight but I don't know if that was necessarily an admission that he'd been on the kebabs and got fat.

When he broke through at Motherwell he was only 18, and any lad will normally fill out a bit between 18 and 21. If you add to that that he's had long term niggly injury issues and the fact that he might be trying to bulk up a bit in order to be a number 9 rather than a winger, I think he's maybe being done a bit of a disservice with the constant comments about his fitness.

He said it was due to injury but at the same time you would think he would have got the help to try avoid this.

Something Nisbet and others need to be wary of coming back from long term injuries.

[Clarence]

I’m mindful that he’s only 21 and has been injured but it is telling that he has scored his goals against the worst teams in the league and hasn’t really been anywhere near the races when we’ve played higher quality opposition. I’m sure he’ll continue to improve but we need someone that can perform at a higher level more consistently. He may have that in him but it’s too much of a risk based on current evidence.

[jacomo]

Other than Jack Ross' comments, has there been much suggestion that he hasn't been doing this?

He mentioned himself that he'd put on weight but I don't know if that was necessarily an admission that he'd been on the kebabs and got fat.

When he broke through at Motherwell he was only 18, and any lad will normally fill out a bit between 18 and 21. If you add to that that he's had long term niggly injury issues and the fact that he might be trying to bulk up a bit in order to be a number 9 rather than a winger, I think he's maybe being done a bit of a disservice with the constant comments about his fitness.


Big Daz quite tactfully but very definitely suggested the same in his post match interview yesterday.

Neither are characters that would run their mouth off about a player. Jack in particular kept everything behind closed doors (rightly imo)… for him to talk about Scott’s fitness levels in public was surely very deliberate and very telling?

He wasn’t being played as CF in the autumn, yet he couldn’t even make the bench for a while. Poor.

[Brooster]

He always said he would deliver if he had a run in the side.

[jacomo]

He always said he would deliver if he had a run in the side.


Don’t they all?

[Phil MaGlass]

Id try and sign the boy, hes just back from injury, these 4 goals are what I think might be the beginning of a good thing. Hes still young, nowt to lose. Oh and 3 goals against pi5h opposition that have humped us more than I care to remember in the early past is nowt to turn your noses up at.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Worst ever player I have seen at Hibs

Rowan Vine begs to differ.

[SHODAN]

Rowan Vine begs to differ.

Now THERE'S a worst player I have ever seen at Hibs.

[basehibby]

He's gone from being a hopeless write off to an enigma which is progress of a kind I suppose.

In isolation, his season long loan has been a disaster from Hibs' POV - he has now regained his match fitness it seems and finally shown some of the qualities which will have won him his million pound move - but from Hibs' POV it's all been too little far too late. I don't know whether that has been down to poor attitude and lack of work ethic on the player's behalf or down to poor judgement on the part of the "transfer committee" or whatever. Hull and the player will, presumably, be quite happy with the arrangement as Scott now appears back to a condition where he can readilly contribute at this level, but Hibs have gained very little thus far.

Would I want him back for next season? If his condition over the season has been down to poor attitude and lack of application then NO. If it was unavoidable and part of a predictable recovery path then YES - if that were the case then it would only seem fair that, having suffered the pain of his long recouperation, Hibs should be entitled to some degree of GAIN in the shape of a fully fit player contributing to the team. The Hibs coaching team should have enough insight to know the real truth of the situation and I assume their opinions would feed heavilly into any future deal - so I'll support whatever decision is arrived at.

[ancient hibee]

I thought in the first half he was dreadful-no pace,playing in divers boots,no control. Second half he's in the right spot to get a lucky goal and suddenly it all fits into place and he looked like a player. That's football. Worth a punt if we get him cheap and change his diet/training otherwise no.

[Coco Bryce]

I thought in the first half he was dreadful-no pace,playing in divers boots,no control. Second half he's in the right spot to get a lucky goal and suddenly it all fits into place and he looked like a player. That's football. Worth a punt if we get him cheap and change his diet/training otherwise no.

No he isn't.

[Inconsequential]

Still don't get all the criticism towards James Scott. The judging of his character by many who know better. A very young man whose promising career was abruptly interrupted by injury. Maybe the lad has had a confidence crisis, maybe he has personal issues, it takes guts to get over a bad injury and then go back on the field where another injury can happen. I wish the player well as a fellow human being whether he's a Hibs player or elsewhere.

[Bushwoof]

If all we'd seen of him were his performances from the semi onwards, there's no doubt we'd want him to stay. Having said that, at least one of his earlier displays was as bad as it gets, almost as bad as Josh Vela at his worst (which is to say about every game he 'played').

I'd keep him if he was on a free and sensible wages. His header for the 3rd was as good a finish as we've seen all season (OK, maybe not as good a Boyle's dink over the keeper from a narrow angle, but not far off). If he was 28 I'd have said no, but at 21 and coming back from an injury there's hope for him.

[brog]

At the age of 21, Christian Doidge was a policeman, playing part time for Carmarthen Town. Darren Mc had been released by Cowdenbeath, was at Arniston Rangers and working in his father in law's clothes shop. I shudder to think what Hibs Net would have thought of these 2 guys' future prospects!

[Hibs1969]

Rowan Vine begs to differ.
So does Shefki Kuqi. And Islam Feruz.

[jacomo]

At the age of 21, Christian Doidge was a policeman, playing part time for Carmarthen Town. Darren Mc had been released by Cowdenbeath, was at Arniston Rangers and working in his father in law's clothes shop. I shudder to think what Hibs Net would have thought of these 2 guys' future prospects!


All true but I’m struggling to see the relevance.

You’ve been watching this season, you know what the issue is.

[SHODAN]

At the age of 21, Christian Doidge was a policeman, playing part time for Carmarthen Town. Darren Mc had been released by Cowdenbeath, was at Arniston Rangers and working in his father in law's clothes shop. I shudder to think what Hibs Net would have thought of these 2 guys' future prospects!

People just want someone to hate mate.

I grew out of it in my mid twenties but evidently not everyone does.

[Inconsequential]

People just want someone to hate mate.

I grew out of it in my mid twenties but evidently not everyone does. Seems to be the way these days unfortunately. Whether it's the internet that brings out the worst in folk for some reason I don't know. Offline most people would be friendly, have compassion and wish people well.

Be nice to everybody you never know who might be on your jury. :agree:

[brog]

All true but I’m struggling to see the relevance.

You’ve been watching this season, you know what the issue is.

The relevance is that at the age Scott is now, Christian and Daz would rightly have been described as hopeless. They improved. However im sure you had already worked that out.

[easty]

At the age of 21, Christian Doidge was a policeman, playing part time for Carmarthen Town. Darren Mc had been released by Cowdenbeath, was at Arniston Rangers and working in his father in law's clothes shop. I shudder to think what Hibs Net would have thought of these 2 guys' future prospects!

This has nothing to do with James Scott though.

I’m assuming the reason that those 2 ended up moving up the levels was because they were performing well, and ended up where they should. James Scott is performing poorly and moving down levels.

[easty]

The relevance is that at the age Scott is now, Christian and Daz would rightly have been described as hopeless. They improved. However im sure you had already worked that out.

Who described them as hopeless when they were at that level? They were likely the best players in those teams, and moved on to better clubs.

[KWJ]

Who described them as hopeless when they were at that level? They were likely the best players in those teams, and moved on to better clubs.

You didn't read what he said.

I think injuries had something to do with it for Daz, while Doidge was focusing on Basketball at the time.

Scott seemed an utter huddy to me. His age and size along with that header suggests there's some hope for him but I'd rather it wasn't at hibs.

[Eyrie]

Worst ever player I have seen at Hibs

Graeme and Greg Miller both beg to differ.

[KWJ]

Graeme and Greg Miller both beg to differ.

And Paul Tosh

[Mick O'Rourke]

Graeme and Greg Miller both beg to differ.

Absolute disgrace,that was.

Nepo and Tism on the wage bill.
Sound familiar :greengrin